‘Prophet Muhammad (saw) and Human Change: Principles and Application’

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‘Prophet Muhammad (saw) and Human Change: Principles and Application’

On the occasion of the birth of P. Muhammad (saw) Shaykh Salim Bhimji will analyse the principles of human change according to Islam, and how the Holy Prophet (saw) applied it in his religious propagation.

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[0:20][Music] thank you you may have seen me before um and I

[0:46]am very very delighted to welcome you all to another episode of

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[1:09]facilitation felicitations to all of you and I hope inshallah you all

[1:15]enjoying the Willard celebrations so in light of that today's episode is

[1:19]titled Prophet Muhammad and human change and we hope inshallah to explore

[1:26]the principles of change and how these can be applied so to

[1:29]tell us more about this topic I am super excited to be

[1:34]joined by Sheikh Salim bimji from the other side of the pond

[1:36]in Canada there he is having grown up and completed his formal

[1:43]education there Sheikh Salim studied in Islamic seminaries in New York and

[1:47]then in Sheikh has been involved with various Charities including the World

[1:52]Federation has launched two organizations and started a business dedicated to publishing

[1:56]and disseminating Islamic literature alongside all of that because you know that's

[2:02]not all enough Sheikh has translated over 40 books and I'm here

[2:07]trying to get through one book that I'm trying to read um

[2:11]but all this achievement is absolutely stunning incredibly inspiring which I'm sure

[2:17]uh would not have been uh able to happen without the support

[2:22]of uh his beloved wife and family and of course it doesn't

[2:25]stop there Sheikh Salim is currently engaged in researching and writing an

[2:30]eight volume commentary of the Quran entitled the clear guidance so here

[2:34]we have a Sheikh who is a busy bee but that would

[2:39]be a complete understatement and unfortunately Sheikh you couldn't get a nice

[2:42]Sunday lion I know it's 11 A.M at your time but thank

[2:46]you so much for joining us and salaam alaikum thank you for

[2:50]having me this uh well this morning for me and uh for

[2:54]your audience around the world it's great to be with you and

[2:56]uh to try and unpack this topic this today yeah absolutely inshallah

[3:01]looking forward to it and um just going by the number of

[3:03]books you have behind you I imagine there'll be lots and lots

[3:07]of knowledge to spill looking forward to that so to start off

[3:13]Shake um in the Holy Quran Allah describes the main task of

[3:15]the holy prophet as being to bring out those who believe from

[3:18]Darkness to light so how would you describe the scene in Arabia

[3:24]at the Advent of prophethood of the messenger because you know the

[3:29]period of jahiliyah how how was that transition yeah yeah so definitely

[3:32]I mean Allah gives the the messenger of Allah Prophet Muhammad may

[3:35]Allah bless them and his family many roles and responsibilities um you

[3:40]know the Quran as you as you aptly mentioned in in multiple

[3:44]ayats of the Quran Allah describes the prophet's task as being to

[3:48]bring people out of darknesses the plural into the one light you

[3:51]know and when we study uh the pre-islamic Society of Arabia uh

[3:57]you know first of all we recognize that there was at least

[4:00]6 600 years between the time of prophet Isa alaihissalam the last

[4:03]major prophet and the coming of the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam

[4:07]obviously there were other prophets in between um but the main uh

[4:13]that main gap of 600 years and obviously Prophet Isa peace be

[4:16]upon him being sent to another community in another region his message

[4:22]and the message of prophet Ibrahim peace be upon him had made

[4:26]it to Mecca obviously because the Kaaba as their you know there

[4:30]was some semblance of Hajj of some aspect of consciousness of Allah

[4:35]but for the most part um the Arab the Arabian Peninsula and

[4:39]the Arabs of that time were steeped in what we refer to

[4:44]as jahiliyah translated as this era of ignorance an era of decadence

[4:47]and it basically you know it consists of just a complete loss

[4:53]of human morality I would say to an extent um you know

[4:57]human morals had kind of Gone by the wayside there was uh

[5:01]it was the society was ripe with social conflict you know slavery

[5:05]was an open practice uh discrimination against not only people of different

[5:10]colors and nationalities but women were treated as second-class Citizens if not

[5:17]worse um and so you know this pre-islamic era that the prophet

[5:20]was sent to transform and then obviously to revolutionize all of humanity

[5:23]it had a lot of a lot of of building to do

[5:27]a lot of reformation to do at a level of humanity at

[5:31]the level of the individuals and then obviously the collective the society

[5:35]and we do see some examples in the Quran Allah gives us

[5:38]some examples you know for example some of the tribes that would

[5:44]bury their daughters alive is one example of the pre-islamic era of

[5:48]jahiliyah the historical books speak about you know when Wars would take

[5:53]place and ravage between let's say multiple tribes uh they would go

[5:57]on for generations and generations to the point where it's kind of

[6:00]funny and it's sad at the same time kind of this tragic

[6:03]irony that you know if they were stopped and asked why are

[6:06]you fighting for the last let's say 100 years they would literally

[6:10]say we don't know why we're fighting but because our forefathers were

[6:14]in a war we're just continuing their tradition right um so in

[6:19]in that kind of that in you know in the shadow of

[6:22]all of this spiritual darkness is Allah refers to them in the

[6:25]Quran um we see that Allah sends a light uh which is

[6:31]our beloved Prophet Muhammad wasallam with the book of light the Quran

[6:35]to revolutionize Humanity at that time and for all time to come

[6:42]really until the end of time absolutely and I feel like what

[6:46]you just said about the period of jahiliyah and there were certain

[6:48]things that were happening you know where women were being classed as

[6:51]you know second-class citizens some things have changed and yet I feel

[6:55]like this topic is very relevant to us today because there are

[6:58]still there's still a long way to go in some ways we

[7:02]are still living in ignorance of what true Islam is um and

[7:05]hence why this is fantastic because we get to learn more about

[7:10]how to change and how that transitions um and so in this

[7:14]episode we will be focusing on human change from an Islamic perspective

[7:16]and how the holy prophet addressed this issue because that changed over

[7:21]time when he came into profit Hill so some people say that

[7:26]a person's nature is an accumulation of many experiences their childhood nature

[7:28]nurture um and as a result this person cannot change because of

[7:34]who they have become so how true would you say this is

[7:39]from an Islamic point of view I think from the Islamic perspective

[7:43]we don't accept that notion that you know human beings cannot change

[7:46]I mean if if that were the if if that is how

[7:50]Allah had created Humanity then it would be redundant for Allah to

[7:53]send prophets right it would have been redundant to to embark on

[7:56]this on you know on on sending 124 000 profits to guide

[8:02]Humanity because God could have simply said well you know what I've

[8:06]created the human being and they are going to be molded by

[8:08]by uh by their nature the surroundings that they live in and

[8:13]their upbringing from their family and their community and the you know

[8:16]the tribe let's say um and because they will never change then

[8:18]I I have no need to send guidance but the fact that

[8:23]I think that Allah tells us in the Quran you know he

[8:26]has a phrase where he says that you know indeed Allah will

[8:28]never change the community of our people until they change what is

[8:32]in with them what is within what within themselves and other such

[8:35]verses of the Quran that Allah shows us that we are not

[8:40]fixed in our ways you know he tells us for example that

[8:43]we have guided the human being to the pathuran now either they

[8:50]are Shakir they're grateful and they follow the path of servitude of

[8:55]God or they become ungrateful and decide to leave God out of

[8:58]the picture out of their lives so these kinds of verses you

[9:03]know those two are in Surah al-insan chapter 76 and other ayat

[9:07]of the Quran show us that as human beings although we are

[9:13]molded by the environment that we live in but there is definitely

[9:17]room for us to change our lives and that we can never

[9:20]use the excuse while I was brought up in a secular society

[9:24]or born in this kind of a family let's say and I

[9:29]can never change my ways to become a human being ah if

[9:31]we could use that excuse we'd get like a free ticket um

[9:40]now go go for it go first yeah yeah as I said

[9:44]you know if if that was the uh if that was the

[9:47]the nature of the system then you know like as you say

[9:51]that we could sin we could live a life of so-called freedom

[9:53]of freedom from God you know Freedom away from God's teachings and

[9:56]we could just tell God in the day of judgment that you

[10:00]know you created us and we had no room to change so

[10:02]but obviously that's not an excuse that anybody could use neither in

[10:06]uh in a court of law in this world nor in the

[10:07]court of Allah on the day of judgment right absolutely and and

[10:12]I guess that makes sense with the whole justice system um which

[10:15]then I guess brings us to the next point where we if

[10:19]human change is possible then we'd have to understand how the nature

[10:23]of a human being works so I think the Holy Quran talks

[10:27]about the human nature from various different angles and I wondered perhaps

[10:31]if you'd be able to shed some light on the human nafs

[10:32]and how that is explained in the Quran sure yeah so you

[10:38]know we recognize us as human beings as being kind of made

[10:41]up of two components right we have our physical body which is

[10:44]we could say the vehicle um and then we have the nafs

[10:49]right the soul which is kind of the the driver like we

[10:50]have our car uh you know we have the car we have

[10:53]the steering wheel but the car doesn't move until we are sitting

[10:56]in the in the seats unless you drive an autonomous vehicle that's

[11:01]a different situation but if we go back to the good old

[11:05]days where you had to sit behind the wheel of your car

[11:07]um our body is obviously the physical uh you know that this

[11:12]physical being that God has created it lives for a certain amount

[11:15]of time on Earth and then obviously it it goes back it

[11:19]goes into the ground and it is obviously it goes through a

[11:23]process but what is more important I would say and as you've

[11:26]alluded to is the soul right the nafs of the human being

[11:29]um the snuff switch is what the scholars refer to as being

[11:33]mojarat it is immaterial it's not something you can weigh on a

[11:36]scale that you can look at that you can use any of

[11:40]the senses to determine what it is Allah talks about the soul

[11:42]and the Quran or the nafs and he uh the verse actually

[11:46]says the the asking the prophet and incidentally it's a verse that

[11:50]starts off yes as is this series so the verse is that

[11:54]they ask you or Prophet about the soul and the response that

[12:00]Allah tells the prophet to give is brilliant he says to the

[12:03]prophet will say to the people that the nafs or the rule

[12:08]rather is an Umar is a command from my Lord is is

[12:12]a creation of my Lord and as human beings we only have

[12:14]a little bit of knowledge of what this soul is so Scholars

[12:18]have looked at other ayat of the Quran to try and understand

[12:23]what is the soul of the human being um you know what

[12:26]is this nuts how does it get us to function in life

[12:30]and you know we have this example where we look at the

[12:32]soul and Allah speaks about three aspects of the Soul some people

[12:37]think that we have three Souls but it's one Soul which has

[12:41]various abilities or faculties right this um you know where we're looking

[12:51]at the soul of let's say one in which is um the

[12:53]aspect of the Soul where it is always commanding us to do

[12:58]wrong we have an aspect of our enough swear when we do

[13:00]wrong it kind of reprimands us we feel inside when we've done

[13:06]something which is not in line with our our moral compass or

[13:09]religious teachings and then we have what you know it's called enough

[13:11]this aspect of the human being which uh is kind of seeking

[13:17]to become at one at peace with Allah have that contentment and

[13:20]pleasure in Allah um so that's one aspect or that's one way

[13:25]how the scholars look at the solo and obviously there are further

[13:30]kind of uh you know divisions and categories of different aspects of

[13:33]the soul from kind of from one from that level yeah so

[13:38]that is really interesting to me because given that I have a

[13:44]background in Psychology you know there are various um theories that talk

[13:47]about the different Natures of human beings and one of the theories

[13:51]actually are very closely linked to this which is just fascinating to

[13:58]me um but just kind of as a slight tangent to that

[14:00]so human beings have the fitra that you mentioned and you know

[14:05]in modern States like we're taught it's this inner moral compass having

[14:08]this fitra does that mean that a person is already good or

[14:14]you know they have this internal motivation to be good how does

[14:18]that work yeah so the fetra um is also talked about in

[14:23]the Quran obviously uh in Chapter 30 if you're not mistaken Surah

[14:26]the room the chapter of the Romans verse 30 uh where Allah

[14:30]says and the verse goes on so Allah speaks about the human

[14:40]being addressing us and saying that uh you know set yourself upright

[14:43]in the position or going towards the direction of Allah and then

[14:51]he calls he refers to this fitra of Allah this propertyal nature

[14:54]right for how some commentators or individuals translated this kind of um

[14:59]ingrained Compass I guess we can say or this built-in Compass so

[15:04]that every human being is given when they come into this world

[15:07]um you know we're given a compass we can say which points

[15:11]us to Allah so some Scholars interpret the fitra of Allah in

[15:14]this verse or the general understanding as being belief in monotheism in

[15:19]tahit of Allah so we believe that we're born with that born

[15:23]you know we can say we were born Believers right and we

[15:27]have Hadith also that back up this claim um so we're born

[15:31]on a path of goodness we're born knowing what is good Allah

[15:35]has inspired the soul you know as we came into this world

[15:40]with goodness but obviously the challenge comes is that you know how

[15:44]to maintain or retain that purity you know that's where this entire

[15:49]challenge of life becomes right is and that's obviously you know I

[15:54]think also the part of our topic today is the change that

[15:56]the prophet was bringing because although we're all programmed we can say

[16:00]or created on a path of goodness but we recognize the fact

[16:06]that um that we begin to diverge away from that path and

[16:09]it's you know it's obviously the environment that we live in it's

[16:12]first and foremost our upbringing by our our parents our family our

[16:16]community the extended family and then society and in today's time obviously

[16:21]social media is is kind of form making or allowing us to

[16:26]form our opinions um so definitely we were born on a path

[16:30]of goodness but we need to obviously work to maintain that Purity

[16:35]through life uh it's not given that we're kind of you know

[16:38]we're not programmed like robots that we're born with it and we

[16:39]continue in life on that path of of the fitra it can

[16:44]be polluted and tainted and become corrupted so then I guess it's

[16:50]a bit like you know like a mirror and then it gets

[16:54]a little Dusty and then we can wipe it off and it

[16:55]is possible to then revert back to the victra um and at

[17:01]this point I'd like to delve into a little bit into the

[17:05]prophet's life and I guess the first question here is that is

[17:07]there a serious need for a role model for that change to

[17:12]happen because do we do we need someone to tell us this

[17:14]needs to happen or is that something we can just do okay

[17:18]we're not merely depend on like theoretical teachings of the religion to

[17:21]learn how to change ourselves what is what value is Prophet Muhammad

[17:25]adding to the the concept of change um I think we'll find

[17:32]as human beings that in any aspect of life in any area

[17:34]of life we we always need to have somebody there to kind

[17:39]of take us by the hand and guide us right um if

[17:41]you think about when we went through school our our schooling whether

[17:44]it's Primary School secondary we go to post-secondary um would it be

[17:50]would it have been enough for the institution of Higher Learning to

[17:53]give us a a you know a stack of books and to

[17:57]just say go home and read them and come back and take

[18:00]the exam right no school from kindergarten or preschool way to you

[18:05]know University would ever do that you know it's uh it's overwhelming

[18:08]it's a very daunting task books are traditionally written uh in in

[18:15]a way that they require a teacher to explain right there's a

[18:18]lot of uh you know a lot of nuances and what's said

[18:21]and what is not said in a book and so just as

[18:24]a teacher in a school or a principal or a professor would

[18:29]be there to teach teach a course and give you the textbook

[18:31]but then he or she would teach the lessons in Islam we

[18:35]we have the similar concept that if Allah wanted to and if

[18:39]it was you know he could have created human beings like this

[18:42]that I'll just give you a book and you'll read it and

[18:45]you'll be on a path but we see especially in the Quran

[18:50]when it comes to the life of rasulullah and his integral role

[18:53]in the life of a believer that without him it is I

[18:59]would say close to Impossible if not humanly impossible to reach to

[19:02]any level right we need we have the book definitely which forms

[19:05]the core of the teachings but also we recognize that without the

[19:08]teacher being the messenger of Allah our beloved Prophet Muhammad may Allah

[19:13]bless them and his family it becomes impossible to actually live the

[19:18]book right so he becomes the teacher of the book and we

[19:20]again we see this even in the Quran if we remember in

[19:25]Social jummah which we recite every Friday uh where Allah describes the

[19:28]prophet he gives he gives him three other responsibilities right he tells

[19:32]us that it is uh that he's been given the book and

[19:38]it's uh his job is we use him to purify the people

[19:41]right to teach the people the book and the wisdom to teach

[19:47]the people how to engage in servitude to Allah how to involve

[19:51]and to go through that change that process of change to become

[19:57]human beings to come out of those the levels of darkness and

[20:00]to move into the light so I would say that definitely without

[20:05]a role model uh in in our case obviously the first and

[20:07]foremost being the prophet of Islam and then at the next level

[20:10]his daughter lady Zahara peace be partner and the 12 imams peace

[20:13]be upon all of them um a Believer can never expect to

[20:18]get to Allah without having these Role Models they put the teachings

[20:22]into into a practical application really for us and I guess that's

[20:27]where the Practical applications of change begins to come in uh into

[20:30]the theoretical side of things um so then I guess the follow-up

[20:35]question for that would be we know that um Allah revealed the

[20:42]Quran to Prophet Muhammad's heart in in one go and then he

[20:44]gradually revealed the Quran over 23 years delivering The Message of Islam

[20:49]and I guess I've always wondered why why was that why had

[20:54]it why was it something that was a gradual process so again

[20:58]I think we you know if we reflect even on on our

[21:02]own lives and and people around us we recognize that change never

[21:06]comes easy you know something as simple as even like a a

[21:09]change in in our eating habits or food right we sometimes don't

[21:14]like a particular food and we get accustomed to it over time

[21:17]um human human being you know our spiritual mental evolution is similar

[21:22]that um had Allah revealed the Quran and given it to humanity

[21:29]at one time rather than over the 23-year period uh and that

[21:32]too in two unique environments you know 13 years and under a

[21:38]polytheistic Society a very you know a very unique set of circumstances

[21:42]and then the next 10 or 11 years in Medina in a

[21:48]Muslim kind of environment I uh ideal Society let's say um have

[21:51]the Quran come down and get been given to us at one

[21:54]time it would have been very hard for those people who were

[21:56]who had lived maybe you know uh decades 30 40 50 years

[22:02]in a particular mindset to change overnight it's like when we go

[22:04]you know let's say somebody has a bad habit of smoking um

[22:09]you know the doctor will you know you know the other health

[22:12]practitioner will tell them you know what you need to quit but

[22:14]to quit cold turkey to quit overnight is very difficult if not

[22:17]impossible and people will go back to their old ways right we

[22:21]uh we have that kind of propensity as human beings that it's

[22:24]hard to change unless we kind of do it gradually over time

[22:28]right people that want to lose weight let's say right there they'll

[22:31]they'll start on a regiment of exercise of eating healthy but it'll

[22:35]take time to get to that ideal stage ideal station so I

[22:40]think because of that because Allah knows the nature of the human

[22:44]being and obviously he created us so he knows what we are

[22:47]capable of um you know for that reason we see that Allah

[22:50]revealed the Quran in in portions and not only revealed the Quran

[22:57]to change the human psyche in terms of you know the culture

[22:59]that they were that they had to evolve from but even nearly

[23:02]the Practical rulings of Islam right we see this we believe that

[23:08]alcohol has always been Haram it's been always prohibited because of the

[23:11]multiple you know reasons but one of them being impact on the

[23:16]human mental mental stability right and you know be able to focus

[23:20]on on the realities of the world but if you look in

[23:24]the Quran for example when the prohibition of alcohol came about or

[23:27]the we could say the uh for the Muslim Community the the

[23:32]kind of the way that Allah brought it forth yeah it was

[23:34]over the course of like 15 years right the first 13 years

[23:39]in Mecca although alcohol was not permitted but it was tolerated but

[23:42]Allah told the Muslims for example that you know don't approach this

[23:50]don't approach prayers while you are inebriated until you're uh you've you

[23:56]know you're you're sober and can understand what you're saying and so

[24:00]it continued like that until they get to Medina and then gradually

[24:04]eventually at that point Allah says and you know what now you've

[24:07]had 15 years to recognize this religion as about the human mind

[24:11]it's about the intellect it's a religion where these sorts of things

[24:16]like like drugs like alcohol are are things that need to be

[24:19]kept away from so now comes the the process of ensuring that

[24:24]the Believers keep away from it completely right or even fasting right

[24:28]the month of Ramadan fasting didn't occur the obligation to fast didn't

[24:33]occur well until Medina because obviously you know you can't expect a

[24:37]community who have been living a life of openness and a life

[24:40]of freedoms let's say to accept Islam on a Monday and then

[24:46]Tuesday begin fasting Ramadan right it doesn't work like that so Allah

[24:50]had to gradually progressively giving give the teachings to the prophet to

[24:54]get him to gradually convey them to the community to allow them

[24:58]that gradual progression uh to that transformation of life right so yeah

[25:05]that's probably the best reason why we have you know a gradual

[25:10]Revelation and uh explanation of the Quran from the messenger of Allah

[25:13]and that it didn't just uh come and he didn't just give

[25:17]it out as one book to the community uh you know on

[25:19]the first day of his message that does make a lot of

[25:24]sense actually but then there's a question that popped into my head

[25:27]as you were speaking there and with Salah for example and please

[25:32]do correct me if you know my my knowledge is incorrect here

[25:34]um but I understand that there were many many more workouts of

[25:40]Salah to be recited um and now we've come to the few

[25:45]rakas that we do today so if change was supposed to be

[25:48]gradual wouldn't we start with of your account and then build up

[25:50]to 100 like today rather than being oh here are so many

[25:54]requests that you need to recite many many years ago and now

[25:55]we're setting the you know a few workouts that we do today

[25:58]and I wondered how that worked um so I think I mean

[26:06]I think I mean the prayers as an example the prayers that

[26:09]we have today um I I don't know if we have at

[26:14]least I haven't seen it where there were hundreds of rakat to

[26:18]pray let's say um I know there are there there is some

[26:19]discussions in in the Mirage of rasulullah where we were told that

[26:25]the prayers were a certain number and that they were kind of

[26:27]reduced to what we have today um I think we'd have to

[26:32]kind of re-reinvestigate that topic maybe um but I think Allah in

[26:36]in all of the aspects of worship he you know it was

[26:38]never meant to be an arduous or a difficult process to engage

[26:44]in worship of Allah right and Allah mentions even in the Quran

[26:47]uh you know there's a beautiful verse um in the 29th Jews

[26:50]where basically Allah says that he knows that you know there are

[26:54]people amongst you who are sick who are busy traveling who are

[26:57]engaged in other actions so he says that read of the Quran

[27:05]that which is easy for you right so even worship was never

[27:08]meant to be a taxing burden um you and if we look

[27:13]at it that yes the some acts of worship were more intense

[27:15]in the beginning and then they were reduced um it may have

[27:20]been a in an attempt again like we look at our own

[27:23]personal lives that you know sometimes we have to push ourselves in

[27:26]the beginning to get to a level where we kind of plateau

[27:28]and then we can kind of ride a wave right so it

[27:32]may have also been that Allah was kind of trying to push

[27:36]the young community of Believers because you know we have to keep

[27:39]in mind that when we read the Quran especially or we look

[27:41]at Islamic history we need to try and put ourselves in the

[27:46]feet of people who lived 1400 years ago right and you know

[27:48]many times even I've seen this personally when when we have people

[27:53]who revert to Islam they were Christians or they were from another

[27:57]tradition they kind of come into the religion uh you know with

[27:59]like 110 with all the energy and steam behind them because they

[28:05]want to kind of enter fully and and try and and you

[28:07]know perform every act of worship let's say and you know to

[28:12]the maximum potential um and then they kind of begin to kind

[28:14]of plateau and it kind of tapers down to you know they

[28:18]recognize where their place is in the religion and their obligation to

[28:21]Allah but it's like that initial burst of energy you need to

[28:25]get going get the engine kind of running and then once it's

[28:28]running then you're kind of able to uh keep it going at

[28:32]a steady pace through the the the regular acts of worship so

[28:34]we could even perhaps look at it in that light I would

[28:39]say if you know I've actually never thought about it that way

[28:41]and that does make sense like that boost of energy to get

[28:43]started that does make so much sense because I did wonder if

[28:48]change is gradual well where did this come from but yeah thank

[28:50]you so much for um shedding some light on that um and

[28:54]then on on the topic of change uh I believe there is

[28:59]um and again uh I may not quote this you know uh

[29:03]word forward but the heart is a changing thing and sometimes I

[29:07]feel like you go through Peaks and troughs of Faith or the

[29:10]motivation that one may has may have towards wanting to change so

[29:14]if someone has made a change and I don't know for example

[29:19]they're reciting Quran more often or they're reciting Salah on time and

[29:23]then they kind of hit rock bottom again and then up again

[29:28]and down again does is that telling something about the state of

[29:32]their fitra or their nafs at all um I mean in a

[29:37]way it is we do have Hadith about this as well right

[29:40]there's um actually a very interesting book that's been published by Islamic

[29:42]education of the World Federation uh for the Hadith on the Quran

[29:48]sorry a nice plug in there definitely you know and um it's

[29:54]so it's a really good pocket little book to get it's online

[29:56]as well available but I remember there's a Hadith in this book

[30:00]uh where it mentions the same thing you know the one of

[30:04]the imamsam is quoted as saying that the heart goes through Iqbal

[30:08]and edubar so this receptivity and kind of you know the heart

[30:12]becomes receptive at times has spiritual actions and spiritual uh you know

[30:16]acts of worship and sometimes we go through the bar this kind

[30:23]of retracting push we become kind of pulled away from acts of

[30:26]worship so the Hadith goes on to mention that when you read

[30:30]the Quran and you feel that your heart is being transformed by

[30:32]the words you're feeling like you're being moved by the words of

[30:35]Allah then the Hadith continued to recite the Quran because you your

[30:41]heart your enough your spiritual heart that is your soul is receptive

[30:45]it's accepting it it's it's it wants more uh and then the

[30:48]Hadith says when when you find that you get to a point

[30:52]where your heart is no longer acknowledging these you know these words

[30:55]of Allah in the Quran uh it says then kind of step

[30:59]back and stop your recitation of the Quran at that point in

[31:02]time right and I think there's again that recognition that um we're

[31:06]going through these ups and downs in life um there's always going

[31:10]to be that ebb and flow of the life that lead not

[31:15]only physical world but at a spiritual level um and when our

[31:19]heart our spiritual heart is uh you know receptive is is is

[31:21]wanting more spirituality then we have to give it that right whatever

[31:27]the heart whatever the nafs wants at that time in terms of

[31:30]spiritual nourishment um and when we feel you know that you know

[31:33]we're reading the Quran and we're reading let's say Dua Kumail on

[31:37]a Thursday night or do a nut bar Friday afternoon or Friday

[31:39]morning and it's not moving us it's not getting us to that

[31:42]level of recognition of Allah um as hard as it may seem

[31:48]but you know we have to recognize that we're maybe not in

[31:50]a position right then to continue with that act of of of

[31:54]of worship and sometimes I would say that you know based on

[31:56]what I've read from some of our Scholars it could be much

[32:01]more detrimental to the human soul to push it when it's not

[32:03]whether it's not in a mood right again you look at our

[32:08]physical body of somebody who goes to the gym to work out

[32:10]you know they know when they're at their limit and if they

[32:13]push themselves I mean it's good to push yourself you don't want

[32:16]to just give up but you know you'll recognize that a point

[32:18]may come where in your physical workout if you push yourself too

[32:22]much you're going to hurt something physically right you'll heard a physical

[32:24]part of your body um so I think as Believers we have

[32:29]to recognize that even in terms of spirituality there are times where

[32:33]it's where to to read let's say you know as much Quran

[32:37]as we do in the month of Ramadan right another time we

[32:40]just might want to read a page and be and kind of

[32:41]you know close the Quran and move on um so we have

[32:46]to recognize that we will go through those stages and again maybe

[32:48]that's also a part of the message of rasulullah was that you

[32:52]know that change in Reformation that we also recognize that that change

[32:57]will come gradually right it won't be just you know a a

[33:00]concert and constant energy burst right that we're running on on on

[33:05]you know caffeine let's say for 24 hours right we will have

[33:07]times where we will have to take it easy and allow the

[33:11]soul to kind of recover and then kind of Take It Forward

[33:14]from there then I never actually knew about that having to take

[33:18]a step back where it would be detrimental which is really interesting

[33:21]to me because personally for myself and many people I'm sure who

[33:26]are tuning in can probably relate to the peak and trough of

[33:29]the when you're trying to change the motivation to change um that

[33:33]is really really interesting and really interesting food for thought for sure

[33:36]um I do think we're gonna take a short break right now

[33:40]so all the viewers whoever's watching thank you so much for staying

[33:43]with us but we're going to be right back Insha'Allah with Sheikh

[33:50]Salim bimji see you in a short while [Music] thank you [Music]

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[36:21]assalamualaikum and welcome back our dear viewers um today inshallah you've already

[36:28]been tuning in but for those who have just joined us uh

[36:30]my name is khadeja and today we are talking about Prophet Muhammad

[36:34]and human change the applications of change inshallah and of course we're

[36:40]joined by the awesome Sheikh Salim binji who has been discussing the

[36:46]Practical applications of change and inshallah we continue our discussion at this

[36:51]point so Sheikh before we went off on a short break we

[36:54]talked about how the heart Ebbs and flows in terms of motivation

[37:00]to change now from a psychological point of view um there is

[37:03]this whole concept of internal and external locus of control where change

[37:07]comes from the within and not from external influences um I think

[37:12]this is very much a sort of echoed in Islam where for

[37:16]change to be accepted properly in a person it needs to be

[37:20]organic and it needs to come from within as opposed to coming

[37:25]from or being imposed from the outside so I wondered if you

[37:29]could please share some uh information or some light on how the

[37:31]prophet applied this particular principles yeah so you know you definitely correct

[37:38]that uh you know any any time we try to force something

[37:43]on somebody you know the the Hue I think human reaction is

[37:48]that we people will rebel against forced change um and so I

[37:53]think the the message of the prophet in the Quran was was

[37:57]never to force you know compel people um even you know the

[38:00]very famous verse which is or the portion of the verse which

[38:02]is you know unfortunately many times misused and abused where Allah says

[38:08]verse 256 uh the very beginning of that verse that there's no

[38:15]compulsion compulsion in religion uh you know although that specifically has a

[38:18]particular meaning in terms of you cannot compel people to come into

[38:21]religion to submit to Allah religion is free to either accept or

[38:27]reject but one of the things that we do see you know

[38:31]is that we can never force people to engage in any act

[38:35]I mean physically you can't force them but until we recognize um

[38:39]the merits and the worth of it you know it'll be very

[38:43]hard to convince somebody to do it wholeheartedly and for the right

[38:47]reasons um so I think we have many examples of the time

[38:49]of the prophets right that he gave the message and then allowed

[38:55]people uh you know time to kind of reflect and Ponder upon

[38:56]it even if you go right back to the early days it

[39:00]was about you know preaching you know I mean for the first

[39:05]time initially it was his first 40 years before the official prophethood

[39:08]has announced where he's building up his character and then once he

[39:13]announces once he's given the permission by a lot to officially announce

[39:17]the nabua the prophethood it then began Begins the second kind of

[39:21]stage or journey in his life of um showing the people the

[39:25]beauty of the religion right it was never about compelling them it

[39:29]was about showing them the the merits of change the Merit of

[39:33]you know coming into Islam uh allowing them to recognize what they

[39:40]had been kind of missing out on I would say right the

[39:42]uh the the spiritual uh obviously the spiritual benefits the social cohesion

[39:47]that the religion was bringing amongst the the early companions um so

[39:52]he never had to force religion down the throat of anybody or

[39:55]even Force the performance of the acts of worship right it was

[39:58]something which just organically as people saw the beauty of Allah right

[40:02]because that's how it started you you can't force people into it

[40:05]once you teach them about Allah which is what the you know

[40:10]initial verses of the Quran were talking about Allah his centrality his

[40:13]you know the god-centric vision that Islam was presenting once people can

[40:18]accept Allah as the one Creator rejects all the idols that they

[40:21]had been worshiping up until that time uh recognize Allah for who

[40:26]he is and the role that he plays then it became easy

[40:29]for the Believers to act and to perform the acts of worship

[40:34]right it wouldn't it didn't happen that there would be let's say

[40:37]questioning the prophet they saw him praying and they recognize that this

[40:42]is the way to worship God so they followed the prophet right

[40:44]they didn't have to ask rasulullah will give us the philosophy why

[40:47]do we pray why are you standing why are you going into

[40:51]cool why are you doing such that why are you going through

[40:53]all of these motions right but no I think that early community

[40:57]of Believers and I think this is something that we we lack

[41:00]today in our modern era is we try to quantify and we

[41:04]try to get to the bottom of why Allah wants certain acts

[41:07]of worship done in a certain way but I think the prophet

[41:12]began when because he was teaching taheed to people and and you

[41:14]know the centrality of Allah in their lives once they're able to

[41:17]accept that you know there is one Creator only and there is

[41:21]only one law giver and all the other aspects of tea that

[41:24]he would speak about then it became easy for people to uh

[41:28]worship Allah you know later on he became easy for the women

[41:32]to wear the you know to to not wear the hijaba to

[41:34]complete the wearing of the hijab women had a former recovering at

[41:39]the time of the Prophet the Hadith the verses came to complement

[41:42]the hijab already being worn and it didn't become an issue of

[41:45]the Prophet having to you know quarrel or bicker with the women

[41:50]and argue about you know the limits because they had already believed

[41:53]in this concept they already believed in the Oneness of God and

[41:56]that he was the one to give laws so it didn't have

[42:00]to be something that they were forced or compelled to do knowing

[42:03]that is the messenger of God and he had never told a

[42:07]lie in his life and so whatever he was bringing from Allah

[42:09]as Revelation was obviously what Allah expected from them um so I

[42:14]think we have to again keep that in mind as well when

[42:17]we look at our own lives about you know that that level

[42:20]of worship and how it how we get to it and that

[42:21]that process of change is we kind of have to look at

[42:25]it from again that perspective I would say of recognizing who Allah

[42:29]is and the the role of centrality of of a submission to

[42:35]Allah so that is really interesting where you mentioned that the people

[42:39]at the prophet's time believed in what he said um and took

[42:42]on board and made the relevant changes that the prophet brought um

[42:46]there is a question from a viewer actually that I've just received

[42:51]in sort of in relation to this um and they say what

[42:56]did Prophet Muhammad do differently um why were previous prophets less effective

[42:59]in their quest to change their people so for example uh Prophet

[43:05]news people he warned them for so so long um prophet and

[43:09]homosexuality homosexual Society um and even Prophet musa's children um where they

[43:15]started worshiping the cow so is it reluctance to change in those

[43:18]societies that happened or was there an ineffective method what is it

[43:24]that Prophet Muhammad did differently mm-hmm so I I think we definitely

[43:30]never uh I mean it's definitely a a very relevant pertinent question

[43:33]a very good question that came uh you know one of the

[43:37]things we recognize as a part of our our theology our belief

[43:40]system is that whatever the prophets did in their mission whether it

[43:45]be Prophet knew Prophet Musa Ibrahim Ismail all the way down to

[43:49]them the final messenger they all did the best that they could

[43:54]do given the circumstances that they lived in at the time that

[43:57]they were living in and the environment obviously that that they were

[44:01]in um we don't believe that they were kind of you know

[44:04]that they ever shortchanged a line in the message or the mission

[44:06]they did whatever they could do um but I think as Humanity

[44:13]progresses we're progressing from the time of you know the dawn of

[44:15]prophet Adam all the way to the time of the messenger of

[44:17]Allah obviously Humanity was also developing further maturing um and so I

[44:24]think we also you know first at one level we have to

[44:26]keep that in mind that prophets did the best that they could

[44:29]do given their circumstances um I think at another level we see

[44:36]that the human intellect and the mind has been progressing um and

[44:40]so maybe we can understand from that that the previous prophets were

[44:44]successful to the extent of the willingness and the uh the level

[44:52]of acceptance of the people um and with the coming of the

[44:56]messenger of Allah you know it it could be multiple factors which

[44:58]even if we kind of extrapolate from that to look at the

[45:00]time of our 12th Imam his return um where we're told that

[45:08]at his time it'll be the the situation in on on planet

[45:10]Earth will be such because of the social Strife economic you know

[45:17]uh problems the political insecurities that people will be looking and wanting

[45:22]and eager for that change um so I definitely would say that

[45:26]it was it it has obviously to do with the humanity on

[45:28]a whole at that time at a particular time in human the

[45:33]the timeline of Humanity on Earth that they're looking for that change

[45:36]um but also obviously the uh The Messengers himself um you know

[45:43]he's kind of building upon previous uh Generations right so he's building

[45:48]on previous communities and previous mindsets so I think it becomes perhaps

[45:52]easier as they moved forward to be able to uh teach further

[45:59]right and and to kind of allow that that change to take

[46:02]place um yeah that does make sense actually um because like you

[46:11]mentioned change then comes from the person within and if Society or

[46:15]Humanity was still maturing then the inner Compass is also maturing um

[46:21]which at this point I would like to Pivot again to how

[46:25]changes motivated by the inside of an individual um so what's the

[46:30]message of Change by the prophet Muhammad conformant um to the inner

[46:35]and natural needs of the people at the time and if so

[46:40]how does that impact the change process foreign yeah I think it

[46:45]was I mean you know the um the I mean the very

[46:48]I mean one of the clear things we see at least in

[46:51]the early converts to Islam um other than obviously and and Lady

[46:54]Khadijah peace be upon her peace be upon both of them and

[46:58]there are obviously exceptions to the rule um but the companions right

[47:03]they um you know when they hear this message of the Prophet

[47:06]the equality amongst amongst the colors right that the black is no

[47:11]the Arab is no greater than the black or vice versa and

[47:14]these kind of teachings um this began obviously you know they were

[47:18]looking obviously for uh they were looking for kind of you know

[47:21]some validation I can say within Society um they're looking for obviously

[47:28]uh you know uh God as well I guess we could say

[47:29]because again these were people at that time who had connection to

[47:34]Revelation at that time um so I think it became easier for

[47:39]these people to accept because they were looking for God in their

[47:42]lives they didn't have any you know they didn't have this um

[47:44]you know they were let's see surrounded by material life or capitalism

[47:49]commercialism right so they were looking for something deeper um as as

[47:54]with many people even today right when you when you talk to

[47:58]many people who convert to Islam from other religions you know that

[48:00]they were looking for something deeper in life something with that gave

[48:04]life more meaning and purpose so I think that that is what

[48:07]kind of was that impetus for them to you know begin that

[48:10]change process um that they were looking for change um some people

[48:15]were kind of expecting you know those who followed the previous uh

[48:18]religions let's say a prophet Musa and Issa peace be upon them

[48:23]uh they were they realized that another Prophet was to come from

[48:26]Allah and so you know many of them at that one level

[48:30]were waiting for that final profit to come as well so it's

[48:32]kind of a combination of some who were awaiting a final messenger

[48:37]and Revelation and others who were kind of seeking out uh to

[48:40]seeking out that Creator and that kind of better life uh that

[48:43]were able to transition to the into Islam when the when the

[48:48]prophet began with his message again keep in mind his his character

[48:50]and personality and the way that he conveyed the teachings of Allah

[48:55]to those societies you know so you mentioned how uh the the

[49:00]coming of the Prophet or how perhaps some people looking for a

[49:05]deeper meaning in their life kind of acted as an impetus to

[49:07]get the change process started um so then after this process started

[49:14]in your opinion what factors helped maintain that change that they had

[49:19]begun the the good change of the people of Arabia at the

[49:21]time um well I mean I definitely I think the gradual revelation

[49:26]of Quran and as the verses were coming um you know you

[49:30]see this kind of in the early companions because they were eagerly

[49:33]waiting for ayat right it's unfortunately for us we have the Quran

[49:36]today 600 pages right and it becomes daunting because we just we

[49:41]try to read it to get to the end of the book

[49:43]right and we get to the end of the Quran let's say

[49:46]in Ramadan or another time and mashallah we close the Quran and

[49:49]we throw it on on the shelf behind us but if again

[49:52]if we put ourselves in the feet of those companions right like

[49:54]it wasn't like an entire Surah was coming down to the prophet

[49:57]it's not like Surah came in a half an hour right it

[50:01]was like few verses from this chapter from verses from that chapter

[50:04]you know Surah is coming down you know Surah al-khafirun is being

[50:08]revealed Surah is coming so it's almost like that gradual verse that

[50:12]you know that verse every day or a couple of verses every

[50:16]day or every week is kind of keeping people in suspense and

[50:18]on their toes they're like okay now what now what is Allah

[50:21]you know going to teach us what does the prophet Allah going

[50:23]to teach us something that that kind of gradual process of learning

[50:29]the religion also it kept them kind of intrigued and uh attached

[50:32]to the religion um and maybe that's even why you know we

[50:35]have these Hadith that tell us that minimum a Believer should try

[50:40]and recite 50 verses of the Quran a day um and obviously

[50:43]it's you know we all leave we all need different kinds of

[50:45]lives and it's difficult but I think that connection that daily connection

[50:48]with Quran could almost mimic in a way the life of the

[50:54]early companions where they were getting a daily dose of the Quran

[50:56]right we have these apps you know a daily dose of the

[50:59]Quran a daily verse of the Quran um you know or lectures

[51:03]or videos that come out you know a quranic thought every day

[51:05]or every week a video so I think those kinds of things

[51:10]in our lives if we want to try and maybe mimic how

[51:12]the companions were kind of feeling as uh they were going through

[51:17]that gradual progressionism you know that process of reading a verse a

[51:20]day or five verses a day and thinking like these are being

[51:22]revealed like now let's say to me right you know through the

[51:28]media now we've kind of developed that kind of closer Affinity rather

[51:31]than looking at the Quran as a book of 600 pages and

[51:36]how daunting it is to read it at one go if we

[51:37]took it like that it may it may have more of a

[51:40]change in us because we'd read five or ten verses and reflect

[51:44]on it just as those early companions were doing and we would

[51:47]actually try and internalize right what was what is coming down right

[51:52]and then moving forward every day like that um I think that

[51:56]would be probably much more beneficial in our own personal change in

[51:59]our lives today rather than just saying okay Ramadan comes I'll read

[52:02]the Quran in 30 days and then close the book you know

[52:06]yeah yeah yeah I feel like in Ramadan it's like it's like

[52:11]a competition who can finish the Quran first by the end of

[52:15]the month yeah yeah but yeah unfortunately we don't have chronic ayas

[52:19]being revealed I think the next best thing as you said is

[52:24]an app so we we use what we can inshaallah which then

[52:27]takes me to like a bringing this application to today's world and

[52:31]bringing the message of the holy prophet uh to how it affects

[52:37]us today what issues do we as shias need to change in

[52:39]ourselves in order to better embody the the message of the prophet

[52:47]um where do we start you know it there's that you know

[52:58]not to sound cliche but there's so much you know um I

[53:01]think alhamdulillah as a global community of shias especially um I think

[53:07]we're on the right track definitely you know uh one of the

[53:11]verses that just comes to mind and um is how Allah speaks

[53:17]about the migration from Mecca to Medina right and how the companions

[53:21]they had left their homes their possessions uh their you know they

[53:25]had to literally like flee overnight as many of our community members

[53:27]let's say she has from many parts of the world whether it

[53:32]be East Africa India Pakistan Iraq Afghanistan they've left sometimes overnight as

[53:36]refugees and they've come to a new country in North America Europe

[53:40]so on and so forth um you know in chapter 59 Surah

[53:45]al-shar Allah speaks about this beautiful picture of the people of Medina

[53:50]the what we call the ansar how they were getting the city

[53:53]of Medina and their homes ready to welcome in the mahajiras those

[53:58]who are coming from Mecca the people who left everything behind and

[54:02]it's beautiful how Allah he says in one part of the verse

[54:05]he says that um that these people of Medina they give preferential

[54:14]treatment to the people of Mecca the muhajirun even though the people

[54:20]of Madina were in need so meaning put other people ahead of

[54:24]yourself right you you know we all have our own you know

[54:28]needs and wants to living in society we have bills to pay

[54:30]mortgages you know uh heating these expenses um but recognizing that one

[54:38]of the beauties of the companions of the Prophet that were in

[54:40]Medina was that they overlooked all their own personal challenges and needs

[54:45]to recognize that there were people who were in a much more

[54:50]difficult position financially and emotionally spiritually than they were and I think

[54:57]as a community alhamdulillah we've been able to recognize a rise to

[55:01]the occasion when there are Refugee crisis around the world we open

[55:04]up our homes our hearts our wallets our purses are open to

[55:07]helping our fellow brothers and sisters who are fleeing you know war-torned

[55:14]or you know regions of natural disasters um so I think we

[55:17]have to look at you know and this calls for an entire

[55:20]series of discussions um on looking at how Islam was able to

[55:23]transform um the early Community right because obviously the prophet gave these

[55:30]verses to them and he was living the quranic ethos as well

[55:32]but we have to really sit down and study how those respected

[55:36]Companions of the messenger of Allah how they how they were transformed

[55:40]also into being who they became later on right there was a

[55:43]respectable and Noble companions people like Salman abuzar and hundreds of other

[55:52]Noble companions um so I I for me to pinpoint what is

[55:55]one thing is that she has we can do is a challenge

[55:56]but I think definitely we have to look at ourselves and and

[56:03]try to put ourselves in the mirror of uh the early Companions

[56:06]and see what they were doing right and see are we am

[56:11]I not we but am I personally following even one example of

[56:14]the respected companions if so you know I checked that box off

[56:19]and I go and try to see what else were the companions

[56:20]involved in that I can try and emulate right is it the

[56:24]level of respect for the messenger of Allah is it their desire

[56:27]for knowledge right um not just super not just superficial knowledge of

[56:33]a WhatsApp that comes right you know I can't imagine what the

[56:37]prophet would be doing right you know if he was here today

[56:41]would he be sending out tweets and and you know tick tocks

[56:43]uh you know I would presume can you imagine oh God yeah

[56:49]but you know I mean those were companions who were you know

[56:52]deep in in search of Islamic knowledge right like you know the

[56:55]prophet would tell them seek knowledge even if you need to go

[56:59]to China right I mean uh you know today we have the

[57:02]world at our fingertips as is evident from this conversation we're having

[57:05]across the ocean um but still you know we have we have

[57:08]young women and men who travel to the furthest parts of the

[57:12]world to seek Islamic knowledge right so I think we all each

[57:15]each individual Shia we have to look at ourselves personally and as

[57:19]the Quran says we know ourselves better than anybody else and we

[57:22]have to look at ourselves and say that am I living up

[57:26]to the ideals of the messenger of Allah am I living up

[57:28]to the ideals of the quranic uh Vision or picture of what

[57:33]a Believer should be am I am I making that Progressive change

[57:35]to better become a better believer based on on how the companions

[57:40]were able to it completely changed their lives because we're talking about

[57:45]people who live again lived a life of of you know of

[57:47]polytheism of idol worship and you know um I'm sure they're we're

[57:53]speaking to people or people are listening to us today who came

[57:56]into Islam maybe a week ago maybe a month ago maybe a

[58:00]year ago um but there may be also people watching us today

[58:02]who have been Muslims for 50 60 years right so we all

[58:07]need to recognize where we are at and where the ideal is

[58:09]and obviously one of the best ways other than knowing ourselves is

[58:14]to do our own self-introspection our own reading of the Quran and

[58:19]recognizing where we stand in in in the sight of Allah absolutely

[58:24]thank you so so much for that inshallah I hope that everyone

[58:29]has been able to everyone shooting has been able to take something

[58:32]away from the show Insha'Allah um and I pray that we all

[58:37]have Allah gives us the strength to make those little changes as

[58:40]you mentioned Sheikh to look at the companions of the Prophet like

[58:42]the prophet and tick just one box off another box of Insha'Allah

[58:47]um and can't believe the hour has gone by very quickly so

[58:52]it's already the end of the show and the episode at this

[58:54]point I'd like to thank our esteemed scholarships at least mg for

[58:57]enlightening us with your knowledge your experience thank you so so much

[59:02]for taking the time to Grace us with your presence today um

[59:07]and inshallah I hope you have a lovely remainder of Sunday and

[59:13]a nice warm weekend Insha'Allah um last but not least we thank

[59:18]you the viewers for watching and for contributing to the conversation as

[59:22]always this has been very stimulating I I've learned Lots myself and

[59:27]I hope you have to Insha'Allah and of course there's always more

[59:30]to come because the team is working super super hard behind the

[59:33]scenes to make sure there's new content coming right out for you

[59:37]so please join us live on the WF YouTube channel next week

[59:41]on Sunday 23rd 4 P.M for the first annual Global kojo Heritage

[59:46]day leadership Forum which is a mouthful but it sounds absolutely exciting

[59:50]so I hope you can tune in um and then the show

[59:55]they ask you we will be back on the following week on

[59:57]Sunday 30th October again same time 4 PM with Shake nadir Jafar

[60:03]on the topic of external to believe of the Islamic education department

[60:06]and that will be hosted by The Familiar Face said Muhammad Abbas

[60:11]kirmani insha Allah in the meantime you can follow like And subscribe

[60:15]to blessedree media on Facebook Instagram and YouTube you know the drill

[60:20]I am Khadija after Jaffer and this is blessed tree media and

[60:25]till next time [Music]

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