“The Islamic Method: For Dealing with Controversial Issues”

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“The Islamic Method: For Dealing with Controversial Issues”

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Guest: Shaykh Safder Razi

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[0:31]sir salaam alaikum dear brothers and sisters i'm your host qasim ismail

[0:53]and welcome to another episode of they ask you brought to you

[0:55]by blessed media military media before we begin with it being the

[0:58]shahada devon alaihissalam i send you all and in particular the imam

[1:03]of the time condolences for the loss of the second holy imam

[1:06]in today's episode we will be discussing islam's approach to dealing with

[1:08]controversial issues to help us delve further into this intriguing discussion we

[1:13]are honored with the shakes after razzie he's a well-educated scholar and

[1:16]has lectured in many countries before we start i'd like to remind

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[1:53]media without further ado let's begin our first question sheikh maybe we

[1:59]can set the parameters of the discussion by what do we mean

[2:03]by controversial topics when we talk about dealing with the controversial issues

[2:04]what do we actually mean by controversial topics [Music] if you look

[2:20]into the dictionary of controversial topic you will find several uh definitions

[2:25]but they all pour into one thing that there are variances whether

[2:29]you see political parties they have variances uh you see social parties

[2:35]you see doctors sometimes their differences they become sensitive in a way

[2:41]that people they get emotionally intolerance about it so so that makes

[2:49]it controversial like people they become intolerant about embracing the differences and

[2:54]embracing the variances so this is a short controversial topic linguistically when

[3:00]it comes to our islamic realm so and there are topics so

[3:08]so people they have topics like religions they have differences christian muslim

[3:13][Music] jews and muslim so we have variances but many times you

[3:21]see that their variances are embraced and respected and accepted we i

[3:25]do not believe in jesus the son of god okay but i

[3:30]respect you because you believe in jesus son of god so that

[3:32]does not become controversial because we have respected we have tolerated each

[3:36]other you see this says these sensitivities they rise when we are

[3:41]very close to each other when we are far away knowledge to

[3:45]you is your religion and to me is my religion so when

[3:50]we come to our own community members like for example muslims muslims

[3:57]sorry let me just put this off so excuse me so muslims

[4:07]basically there are topics between uh the school of companion and the

[4:11]school of ah those who follow the companions those who follow there

[4:16]are certain topics they don't they are not controversial why because they

[4:19]are not that sensitive they are they they do not have this

[4:23]intolerance but there are times there are certain factors they create this

[4:30]intolerance one of the factors is that people are going to follow

[4:33]school of alibaba so people of school of companion they start feeling

[4:40]insecurity about their group or vice versa you see it could happen

[4:48]opposite side so people school of alibaba they feel intolerance oh this

[4:52]guy is taking our people you see so that kind of thing

[4:57]creates insensitivity uh some some intolerance can rise from uh position of

[5:04]the ranks for example somebody's leader like in arab days those um

[5:10]those monks or those who priests of idol worshipping they would be

[5:15]threatened because they lose their business economical factor creates intolerance social factor

[5:20]creates intolerance so there are lots of factors they come in the

[5:27]religious communities that intolerant comes from oh i will be losing them

[5:31]oh if they are convinced with that person then and sometimes it

[5:36]comes out of demeaning and bringing other people's down people down why

[5:40]because my arguments are weak so in order to strengthen my argument

[5:48]i start bringing other people down and as they say uh character

[5:54]assassination idea of this character assassination word so the character assassination starts

[5:59]happening in order for me to bring myself up i start bringing

[6:05]other people down by bringing their defects bringing their problems accusing them

[6:11]of lies fabrication fabricating upon them so this is what really creates

[6:17]if everybody respects the differences of each other then things will not

[6:23]become controversial when you see democrats and republican they are they have

[6:27]differences now there's no controversial because the elections are done the more

[6:32]you see elections are coming then people will start doing character assassination

[6:37]just to bring this party up and then we will have serious

[6:40]crisis and problems and it will become controversial issue so the second

[6:47]question actually i think you just touched upon it does having differences

[6:50]cause controversy so maybe um to elaborate the question what can be

[6:55]done to stop these differences from causing controversy good let's go back

[6:59]to the quran and the lifestyle of invite it was the path

[7:19]of your lord if you feel that your path is the path

[7:22]of your lord then invite them how not by bringing other people

[7:28]down okay by wisdom and a good advice okay then let's say

[7:37]if this discussion becomes an argument allah has also given a solution

[7:49]don't let the level of your emotions become heightened and the grudges

[7:56]start happening and anger comes in and shaytan comes inside your argument

[7:59]and then you see dispute and problems and and bringing everybody down

[8:09]allah knows who is deviated from the straight path so there's a

[8:13]straight path and there's a deviation don't worry about it and god

[8:18]your god knows who is from the those who are guided number

[8:24]this ayah tells us what wisdom a good advice then being calm

[8:28]you see shaytan comes in when things become like heightened good allah

[8:36]says okay 198.

[8:42]if you if you invite them towards guidance these people they don't

[8:50]want to listen so what should i do should i start hammering

[8:52]on their head samurai listen guys you have to listen to me

[8:57]calm down they look look with your eyes but their hearts are

[9:04]blocked they don't want to open their hearts these are intellect so

[9:08]what should prophet do for the lawful pardon them see beautiful advice

[9:14]pardon them deal with them with pardon what more bill earth and

[9:19]whatever is good invite people tell people um okay then what about

[9:25]those people who are ignorant they want to remain ignorant and nothing

[9:30]will help them and they're insisting on that the way direct them

[9:36]step away okay don't don't get don't mingle with them too much

[9:42]don't open arguments with them because they are they don't have the

[9:48]background of knowledge which you have and they insist and they are

[9:52]stubborn no use just leave them see how peaceful um our directions

[9:57]are so that means this is for the prophets of allah are

[10:01]simple but it is for all of us to follow the steps

[10:05]of the prophet then what happens no no no no i am

[10:07]right i am on the truth that the right is with me

[10:12]and uh so allah also continues i have 200.

[10:18]because when you are in this situation shaytan starts coming in you

[10:23]know if they say hello hello party he knows this party going

[10:28]on let's come on let's party in the in the heart of

[10:32]this person so when shaytan starts filtering in billah seek protection from

[10:38]allah don't let your relations get messed up keep your relations good

[10:42]by passing surpass them and if shaytan wants you to no no

[10:52]no he want to drag them no don't do that okay since

[10:56]they have they have rejected guide them from time to time but

[11:01]don't insist on them when you start insisting then you have this

[11:07]ego i don't want to be defeated i want to be i

[11:08]want to be the victorious i want to have tribe so what

[11:12]happens allah says if those people who are in this situation they

[11:18]have nothing already shaytan is trying to mess up with them [Music]

[11:31]so these people if they remember allah and be mindful of allah

[11:37]and do is bring allah shaytan will be flushed out okay soon

[11:42]they will they will get this inside okay no no i don't

[11:47]want to go that direction so who is like these people the

[11:53]brothers okay they the brothers of devil so these brethrens of devil

[11:58]they want to increase in the deviation so so so so they

[12:03]they are they in another ayat is overcome them so your discussion

[12:10]will not mean it'd be beneficial for them your arguments are not

[12:14]going to be beneficial for them so here allah says don't let

[12:18]your arguments go beyond that in emotional levels okay if they don't

[12:22]want to listen just pardon them if they curse you they insult

[12:29]you they humiliate your pardon them and do your duty as amar

[12:32]bilmaru and to whoever wants to listen and these ignorant stubborns just

[12:36]leave them okay and then in the other ayat one last ayat

[12:42]the the one of the characteristics of the in surat al-qasas 55

[12:49]if they see that time talk which is useless okay non-beneficial talk

[12:56]waste of time nothing is happening you with your deeds we with

[13:04]our deeds we are not going to come over you means coming

[13:13]over so we are we are not going to come impose on

[13:16]you we are not going to put pressure on you you have

[13:18]your needs we have our days see we are not going to

[13:22]put pressure on you allah then says don't put too much pressure

[13:29]pressure pressure pressure on the people okay you are not going to

[13:34]guide the ones which you whom you love your duties pass your

[13:40]message with politeness your wisdom with love so this is the islamic

[13:43]method and finally we recite surah ayah if we did the non-believers

[13:49]we are told i'm not going to worship what you what what

[13:53]you worship i'm not you're not going to worship what i worship

[13:57]and what here to use your religion to me is my reason

[14:03]so this is islam inviting us to live with everybody that is

[14:09]social pluralism you see so in that in that case so islam

[14:11]tells us don't go into these tensions it creates this unity of

[14:20]the society between muslims and non-muslims between the muslims the shias and

[14:24]the sunnis between the shias among the among themselves shias and shias

[14:28]just present them you see you don't have to put pressure all

[14:31]those kind of things so this is the way we have to

[14:34]deal with the differences of opinion which are associated with controversy otherwise

[14:41]differences are there like for example i give you uh say they'll

[14:45]go inside many of these people who are work making things controversial

[14:51]they say that because we are different they don't want to listen

[14:57]to us now this is wrong this is this is part and

[15:03]parcel of creating an issue controversial they have differences of opinion in

[15:09]moon sighting for example alhamdulillah it's not controversial controversial topic why because

[15:17]hui followers they do their eid whenever it is proven to them

[15:21]sistani followers there are a few people they will make it a

[15:27]controversy issue but majority of the people they have learned how to

[15:30]live with these differences and they're going to happen because now it's

[15:33]not cdc study only that a group of maharaja who have opinion

[15:37]of say this is like say this is that and that group

[15:41]of maharaja who have opinion of like say the who this is

[15:43]so people they got adapted so this does not have controv controversial

[15:48]in it but what happens and some differences they are controversial because

[15:54]they are related to the sentiments of azadari for example the tatweer

[16:01]issue okay the blood mantra so there are people their scholars they

[16:04]say it's haram now what happens some of our followers of they

[16:11]take it emotionally there's a difference this is the difference baba this

[16:17]same like moon signing issue okay we as followers allah sistani we

[16:24]need to back off why because say the sister he backed off

[16:27]say this doesn't because it has become a controversial issue it has

[16:32]become a fitna people are fighting on it he says don't come

[16:36]to me on this issue follow any marjah you want you follow

[16:41]but don't come to me okay and this is the wisdom of

[16:43]aghasthana you remember he says what will happen somebody does that he's

[16:49]not going to go to jannah somebody does not do that he's

[16:53]not going to go to jannah why are you making it like

[16:55]a hell and heaven issue you see that is where we go

[17:00]away from the wisdom and and and tolerance so it becomes it

[17:03]becomes an issue of intolerance you see so we have to respect

[17:09]every peaceful human being so if if we say lakum dino kumaliadeen

[17:11]to cover to somebody says jesus the son of god we respect

[17:17]him why can't it is why can't [Music] follow everybody follow their

[17:25]mercy calm down so they so it is upon us how much

[17:29]tolerance and intolerance we have our lack of tolerance creates an issue

[17:35]controversial so so this is the thing that we have to try

[17:40]to understand that there are people they have they are backed by

[17:46]maratha i can't impose on them just leave them alone leave them

[17:50]yeah they don't understand benefit of islam they don't leave people alone

[17:57]don't think that everybody is like you and things like you people

[18:01]they have different ways the brain has different angles so that's why

[18:06]we have to learn how to respect each other's opinion thank you

[18:12]so much so again you checked up on this next question what

[18:15]are the main causes of controversy um but maybe you can highlight

[18:20]um the the causes so for example is the tolerance is is

[18:24]one cause one way we can battle controversy when we have to

[18:29]step away from the argument and we have to stop relenting uh

[18:32]our point of view um what if someone says for example there

[18:36]are other people who if we kept on going if we kept

[18:40]on saying our point of view for example that's weird argument if

[18:42]we kept on saying you know tata should be done three should

[18:45]be done there are some people who would be swayed but because

[18:47]we've now stopped to stop the controversy we cannot guide these people

[18:50]what would you say to that my beloved that the best guidance

[18:54]arastani says okay follow your margin i disagree with tatbeer but that

[19:02]person has a different angle and take me you see i can't

[19:06]i can if i am a follower for example of uh amarjah

[19:11]who says that is haram i will present my discussion okay i

[19:18]will present my discussion because it causes damage to the image of

[19:22]islam and it has a lot of negative impact on the shia

[19:24]communities and this and that i'll present and that's it let them

[19:30]then think about it you see um because i have seen the

[19:33]trend is that the changing the generations are are are are leaving

[19:40]generations after general if you are still on it you will see

[19:44]in a matter of time this will this will change maybe there

[19:48]will few there will be few they will always do for example

[19:53]so so so so if i am following somebody who is saying

[20:00]forbidden i will present my argument peacefully if they start being siddhi

[20:07]oh your wahhabi your entire zadari i just have to calm down

[20:12]i don't have to get no i'm entirely okay i do azadari

[20:14]but i don't do one of the forms which you consider azadi

[20:18]you see that does not make me don't worry just tell them

[20:24]inshallah may allah forgive you remember pardon them they are accusing lie

[20:30]on you that you are not a zadari guy but you're doing

[20:32]afro pardon them that's fine one more will of if you are

[20:37]able to convince them politely tell them that i am like you

[20:40]i just one thing i am not convinced you see that's fine

[20:45]i'll give you an example let before i give you an example

[20:50]let me come to another factor of azadari which we are facing

[20:55]nowadays some of our sunni fellows in islam if you discuss with

[20:59]them the imam of a little bit and bring them discussions from

[21:02]their books bring them intellectual arguments bring them many of them they

[21:08]they are tolerant they say these are shias this is this direction

[21:11]and we are respecting shias and she has a respect and she

[21:17]has but the extreme elements of shias and extreme elements of swamis

[21:20]they are the one they are causing problem so what happened these

[21:25]these extreme elements of our sunni fellows they cannot respond so what

[21:32]happens they start bringing lies on the shia shias are spitting i

[21:36]don't know if you have heard about that spitting on the rise

[21:39]in the day of ashura shias are doing some nasty stuff on

[21:44]the day of ashura shias of quran different than the quran why

[21:47]are you lying come inside our masjid find the quran which is

[21:52]different than your quran okay so they in in order to bring

[21:55]us down they start making lives i have list of lies because

[22:00]they used to distribute it and template when i was um engulfed

[22:06]and i used to respond to these these with with all respect

[22:08]so lies after lies why to bring them down because people are

[22:12]going to follow the shias okay you you bring your argument why

[22:18]you make lies okay tell them this this is what the sunni

[22:20]school of top does not believe this is what is not narrated

[22:24]in the sunni school of thought or this is weak in the

[22:26]sunni school of thought why are you making lies to bring us

[22:30]down that's in between shias when we come to the shia circle

[22:33]as i mentioned they have differences okay now the uh amongst our

[22:42]shias some people they do phd they think that they are much

[22:47]to him we respect them that's their thought okay because we respect

[22:53]everybody if we respect cover if you respect our sunni fellows why

[22:55]shouldn't i respect our shia brothers so they have this power so

[22:59]we don't have any problem if they start giving different opinion when

[23:04]where are where do we have problem when they start demeaning the

[23:11]maraju because what happens three years phd they compare themselves much to

[23:16]much that who has been doing like 56 years of study and

[23:18]he gives what this three years of phd doesn't qualify a person

[23:22]to give fatwa in school of school of companion yes if you

[23:27]go to university of assa they have so the parameters are different

[23:31]parameters of hausa is different than parameters or parameters of sunni school

[23:37]of thought university of assa or some some universities in saudi arabia

[23:41]or in western academic but in islamic academic let's say if hausa

[23:46]you do phd you have to do a lot of external research

[23:51]advanced research with that you get slowly slowly you get qualified so

[23:55]if you get phd from the house because houses education is based

[24:01]on what logic the first book we teach in houses logic mantra

[24:07]the uh academic western academic is based on philosophy and philosophy is

[24:15]very shaky in philosophy you can have jesus the son of god

[24:18]with all our respect to our christian fellows and you can have

[24:24]god yahweh is coming down yahweh is fighting with jacob yahweh this

[24:27]this in philosophy so don't think like don't use logic when you

[24:34]are studying religion in islam no so the parameters are different so

[24:36]that's why if we study hausa we are using a lot of

[24:42]logic when our sunni fellows they study mufti the school of companion

[24:47]they don't use logic as much as we do because i have

[24:52]compared the elven usual the logical methodology in the school of companion

[24:56]school of agenda so so they don't have as extensive we available

[25:00]goes all the way to battle garage you may be studying the

[25:05]logical methodology for 10 years 15 years and then you will be

[25:09]giving back on it but school of companion no you have studied

[25:12]done phd you are mufti so the parameters are different we respect

[25:17]them but when somebody who comes in the school of ahmed and

[25:22]he wants to put himself beside a much the head okay obviously

[25:25]they will not be accepted their words are not going to be

[25:32]accepted so what happens they become irritated okay why aren't they accepting

[25:36]this irritation causes them to make their issue a controversial issue so

[25:43]what happens i have heard with my own years one group okay

[25:47]in in africa i've not mentioned names because other citizens don't mention

[25:51]it mention the concepts so there are groups they say our mirage

[25:58]are hypocrites on their youtube channel our marathon hypocrites baba if you

[26:05]have a different opinion say it why you are bringing why you're

[26:08]accusing and and and and and and and backlashing the mirage did

[26:12]they backlash you they know they said this opinion is rejected this

[26:17]opinion is absurd this opinion is not founded on proper evidences but

[26:22]they will not say that you guys are hypocrite so this uh

[26:27]same menta same methodology which is used by extreme sunnis to bring

[26:31]shias down by making lies so i was watching they're about he

[26:49]was concealing his faith so this tatia is mentioned in the quran

[26:56]is practiced by many of the sahabas so why our maraja if

[27:00]they are mentioning that they are hypocrites why too much going that

[27:06]extreme just because your arguments are weak you are now doing character

[27:10]assassination to them remember one of the things i mentioned that to

[27:14]bring them up they have to bring others down on the other

[27:20]side in the western in your areas okay without mentioning them there

[27:23]are groups i've seen their interviews assassinating the maharaja character assassination these

[27:29]are they're very old their methodology is old and this and that

[27:36]and they are not progressive not developing and oh my goodness please

[27:40]fear allah subhanahu ta'ala there is no progressing in maharaja i do

[27:45]love because of their ignorance they don't know that ayatollah did the

[27:52]whole reshuffling of the whole system okay the hd heart there's so

[28:01]many concepts the weak concepts rejected isn't this progressive that old time

[28:08]the fatwas are based on this this weak concept and ayatollah rejected

[28:11]a lot with lot of methodological methodology imam khomeini he brought a

[28:20]a system you see the southern progressive in philosophy in fitna in

[28:26]usual in in economics the the book which was written by said

[28:31]mohammed bakker southern islamic economy and that non uh non-usually bank in

[28:39]islam and banking what is this so these lies they are progressive

[28:46]they want to show the people they are progressing and they want

[28:50]to lie this on the west from western communities some group i

[28:56]was hearing them i was surprised they are progressive because they are

[29:01]bringing liberalism that is progressive to them actually the progressive should be

[29:07]the development of the intellectual argument which is in the hausa that

[29:11]to them is not progressive to them is progressive so what they

[29:16]do they one of them they said our scholars are naive so

[29:20]attack on our naive okay they study like 50 60 70 years

[29:23]and they're naive you got your phd on purification or whatever phds

[29:30]you guys get and you are mashallah not naive so this is

[29:33]where because they are not accepted in the community i have so

[29:37]many comments i heard from them they they mock with these laughters

[29:40]you know like sidekick laughing like that kind of things they do

[29:44]sometimes to bring the opinion of maharaja down so the this is

[29:51]what happens that that inferiority psychological inferiority and stubbornness we they are

[29:57]invited come why are you showing your muscles to the public come

[30:00]to the maratha sit with them discuss with them if you disagree

[30:04]merger will respect you they are all respected why you bring these

[30:15]kind of comments and make your position controversial make your thoughts controversial

[30:21]associate this kind of as in urdu masala you know like add

[30:28]spices on it and add fuel over fire just present trust me

[30:33]nobody will bring you down nobody will say anything about you islam

[30:37]is about thought process in hausa you will see they have drastic

[30:42]differences but they respect each other when people they come out of

[30:49]these phds of arabic language from the east or phd in tahara

[30:53]people they do not have respect for those who are more knowledgeable

[30:57]than them that makes it controversial so we pray we pray for

[31:01]allah allah guide them okay and give them so when i present

[31:06]their arguments from the member i don't mention names okay because i

[31:10]told the system he says mention the concepts let the people be

[31:14]aware about it because some of our our beloved ones are not

[31:16]happy why don't you mention the name show us who are these

[31:21]baba it's not one and two maybe it's one now after five

[31:24]years there will be five so i'll be mentioning names after name

[31:29]no bring awareness knowledge our direction is knowledge direction of knowledge it

[31:34]is not from the wisdom to mention the names because then grudges

[31:38]happen then their supporters my supporters his supporters there and we have

[31:42]a mess in the community you see so this is another example

[31:46]inferiority due to lack of knowledge and then based on that uh

[31:53]they start bringing the knowledgeable people down by ascribing lies on them

[31:59]uh manipulating their words because i i watch the this to be

[32:03]aware that what's going on in the field of knowledge and what

[32:08]kind of why are things being controversial i because people then they

[32:11]come and ask me so i have to be sure that i

[32:14]have gone through these before they uh before they asked me thank

[32:19]you so much jake um we will now stop for a short

[32:23]break but please don't go anywhere yet we'll be right back for

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[34:38]question um during your last response uh is it true that the

[34:40]marriage is sometimes afraid of calling out some rituals because of backlash

[34:44]and inshallah you can elaborate on this yes so as i mentioned

[34:50]about ayahuala so so there's a fear without any doubt fear of

[34:56]what not of backlash okay i'll give an example because our mirage

[35:01]and they learn from our the lifestyle of our immigrants i just

[35:06]mentioned a context but all our viewers they can go and find

[35:11]out the whole incident so in imam ali alayhi took the khilafat

[35:15]okay after the third khalifa so what happened that people he started

[35:24]reforming because there had been a lot of changes according to the

[35:27]school of companion as well that the first khalifa had done some

[35:30]modifications changes the second khalifa had done the third kharifa until the

[35:36]muslims they were like uh rev they revolted on him okay so

[35:41]um this is in the history of all the muslims it's not

[35:44]something which he has no it's it's in the history of the

[35:46]muslims so after third khalifa from first khalifa to death there had

[35:51]been a lot of changes from the the path of [Music] and

[35:58]the rasulallah of quran and these are mentioned in the history books

[36:01]what imam ali when imam ali came he started changing bringing things

[36:07]back to what was in the time of rasulallah so what happened

[36:12]it came the time for salad you know [Music] not that in

[36:19]the time of the prophet sallallahu alaihi now sunni fellows they acknowledge

[36:22]and this is that he made this recommended salah in congregation was

[36:30]going to stop this so start people started revolt [Music] is going

[36:37]to be abolished also omar says okay sorry keep doing it you

[36:43]see so why that kind of like this is my way of

[36:45]expressing okay do whatever you want to do imam ali is surrounded

[36:53]by fitna lot of problems he doesn't want internal civil war based

[36:58]that's the last thing imam i want is just because i'll change

[37:04]something they have been doing it you see and i will have

[37:06]problems and muawiyah is on the wife of the prophet one from

[37:12]one side so all these people are one after another making plans

[37:18]to just destroy the muslim community which imam ali al-assad started to

[37:24]bring with the justice you see to the edge of this edge

[37:28]of the hand and not say edge of the soft because the

[37:30]so edge of the hair justice to the edge of the head

[37:36]like every single nitty gritty justice but then uh then from inside

[37:39]these people that so imam ali taught us that whenever things might

[37:44]cause problems in the community okay fighting disputing this and that so

[37:49]just back off just let people do focus on greater issues if

[37:58]we will keep putting his head and in these small small issues

[38:02]he would not have been able to gather all the iraqis or

[38:08]majority of the iraqis and flush the terrorists out of iraq you

[38:12]see where the merja who has wisdom looks at important things it

[38:17]does not get into these cultural issues which some say if some

[38:22]say must have some say haram these are all this this let

[38:28]me come back so that people will not misunderstand me azadari means

[38:34]having gree expressions of grief on imam azam okay means grief somebody

[38:42]is in grief you are you are going to uh give him

[38:47]uh what they say um you're going to feel sorry you're going

[38:49]to feel his pain or her pain so you are going to

[38:53]do hazard for him so we feel the pain of imam hussein

[38:57]being followers part of our essence they were created from the part

[39:09]of our essence they are sad without sadness and glad with our

[39:14]gladness so we express now this is very important is two times

[39:21]grieving on imam hussain is expressed in two types religious culturally so

[39:27]what do we mean we mean by religious religious means that we

[39:32]have texts islamic texts crying on imam hussein the prophet saw allah

[39:40]isn't crying okay uh poetry is on imam hussain they used to

[39:43]tell the poets do you have something on my grandfather who said

[39:48]i'm not going to go detail because we hear this a lot

[39:52]the police that said that martha and noha these poetries these are

[39:57]all sunnah you see getting together much less this word majlis imam

[40:04]sadhu alaysam says soon do you have this jansa get together on

[40:08]grieving on imam hussain alaihis normally we have to agree because we

[40:17]are mentioning imam's musee but in the most of all ziyarah so

[40:20]these are ziarat of imam hussain um martha crying on these are

[40:27]narrated hitting on the head the imam saw that was seen putting

[40:30]dust on his head on the day of ashura these are narrated

[40:34]is this clear narrated then we have cultural azad so his culture

[40:40]okay or not okay okay so cultural azadi in islam we have

[40:44]something we call accidental let me see if i find a piece

[40:48]of paper to show you okay okay so this is a piece

[40:52]of paper it's blank i can just tear it and throw it

[40:56]but when i write name of allah it becomes religious i should

[41:02]not throw it so it becomes accidental okay azadari if i write

[41:08]name of imam hussain or something so this paper becomes accidental religious

[41:14]and it has equal respect as narrated villages okay so there are

[41:20]a lot of cultural practices which some cultures practice some they don't

[41:25]practice since they are in application for the general rule of grieving

[41:30]on imam hussain they become accepted and they become rewardable act okay

[41:35]for example i'll give you this example in our koja communities mostly

[41:39]this the have you heard about this the laddus which are distributed

[41:47]the sweet balls yellow balls or orange which are distributed in the

[41:50]night of abu fadil now hazrat abbas did not give a recipe

[41:53]for that so how do we describe it because this is a

[42:01]hindu culture our ancestors most of them were hindus we khojas and

[42:05]we converted so some of our cultural practices converted with us so

[42:10]this they've distributed mander in religious places and this tal as well

[42:14]you've seen some ladies majalis they have always thali also this plate

[42:19]where they have certain things on a coconut and also these are

[42:22]all indian culture so what happened so those ladies they came and

[42:27]and they made this another made an a covenant with allah that

[42:33]oh god if he will fulfill my hajja i will distribute those

[42:35]uh those sweet orange balls which are distributed in the month for

[42:41]our moment because they are delicious people love it you see and

[42:45]she got her hijab she distributed others they asked oh what happened

[42:49]because i made for abu father so it's not the laddu which

[42:53]is here it is the name of abu fateh presenting the grief

[42:57]of abu fadu abbas in the night of abu fatehl abbas encouraging

[43:01]this great personality the defender and the loyal who teaches the loyalty

[43:06]to imam who teaches the sacrifice and teaches the social service that

[43:11]serve water even if your hands arms are cut so we are

[43:17]presenting a personality and not this laddu this led to this accidental

[43:21]thing it became part of azadari part of grieving on abu fa

[43:26]bash so this is acceptable so this cultural azadi if they are

[43:31]not contradicting with the religious directions which we have if they are

[43:38]not causing serious harm then they are acceptable not just acceptable rewardable

[43:43]based on the sincerity okay any practices cultural practices they are accidental

[43:51]as are the application of the general rule of so what happens

[43:57]here in cultural azadari we have some things sometimes become emotional people

[44:01]they mock on this laddu of azeroth and that is not right

[44:05]so they become offensive and it becomes controversial those people who do

[44:13]those people we obviously in this time this is my personal opinion

[44:18]okay in this time i'm not a marjah i'm not a muslim

[44:22]in this i'm applying the rule of seriously harmful or not so

[44:25]most of our scholars they cons they think that this is something

[44:31]which is harmful to the image of islam image of the shaykh

[44:34]okay so so that's a personal opinion i'll not say but generally

[44:40]the scholars who say that so there is a general rule that

[44:44]anything harmful to the image of school of ah and islam should

[44:48]be avoided so the marathon says haram they have this direction the

[44:53]maratha who do not see this aspect and they see the aspect

[44:56]of azadari continuation of azadari they say so now though because he

[45:07]doesn't want to create civil war inside iraq you know so he

[45:12]leaves it so you follow the other maratha so here the mercy

[45:16]is bailing out not for to me being backlash to avoid having

[45:21]fitna problem because as it is we do without all the system

[45:25]involving when i sit with this prototype and empty that way i

[45:31]see so much heated arguments there and baseless argument baseless so so

[45:36]we respect those who do that we respect the majority of the

[45:41]scholars they do not support the regional scholars they do not support

[45:45]this especially living in the west because it causes a a wrong

[45:50]message it takes a wrong message out to the community but those

[45:55]who do that we can't also backlash them you see because they

[45:58]are backed by their maraja some of them are raja there are

[46:02]very few mirage they support that majority of them do not encourage

[46:06]this you see yeah so this is the key okay thank you

[46:12]so much going back to the accidental dario you mentioned um you

[46:16]know like the the sweet bulls given on hazrat tabasa's night someone

[46:21]has given a question and i'll take it in a academic uh

[46:23]way so are you saying if i give chicken nuggets in the

[46:28]name of abu fateh abbas those chicken nuggets become holy maybe this

[46:32]is a bit of a mocking tone but inshallah you can highlight

[46:36]the extent to which this is um uh this this goes this

[46:40]accidental like where do we draw the line basically so so so

[46:45]let me mention this acceptable things you see because our culture accepts

[46:49]laddu but if you go in a western community or arab communities

[46:55]they will find this little strange thing you see so you don't

[46:58]could distribute them chai for example did did our imam hussain tell

[47:02]that oh my shias please distribute chais now our gojo communities and

[47:07]indo pakistanis they are so obsessed with chai even iraqi communities they

[47:11]have black child this child obsession is there and that has become

[47:14]part of azadari so something you do to encourage people to come

[47:21]to azadari to keep them awake in the azadari chai okay to

[47:25]let them to to to show your appreciation to uh so this

[47:28]chicken nuggets if you are going to distribute chicken nuggets to encourage

[47:33]people to come to azadi because people they love it yes but

[47:38]if you go into the vegetarian community and distribute chicken nugget that's

[47:42]not going to be azadari you see so where your this is

[47:45]because it's a culture you have to observe the culture which appreciates

[47:49]your chicken nugget i'll give you an example in norway in sweden

[47:52]when when ashura used to come in cold weather our youth they

[47:58]did an amazing new form of azadari okay what is that they

[48:03]used to make tents in the university campus in downtown here and

[48:09]there and they would distribute hot chocolate not tea hot chocolate some

[48:15]communities coffee that become azadari why the main purpose is not the

[48:18]coffee not the chocolate the main purpose is to bring people give

[48:22]them incentive to listen to you by giving them something they would

[48:28]enjoy as well you see so so this is the thing that

[48:29]yeah chicken nugget if you go to the youth community put that

[48:34]chicken nugget and it can become uh because the idea is not

[48:39]what you've served the idea is why do you serve the purpose

[48:42]is to let them hear azah of imam hussain majalis of imam

[48:47]hussain of imam that is all around these cultural things so these

[48:51]are accidental thing the aim is not laddu the aim is not

[48:56]chicken nuggets the aim is not chai the aim is not coffee

[48:58]hot chocolate the aim is come guys listen to azam of imam

[49:04]hussain and we will treat you with good treats sunshine thank you

[49:08]so much um now moving away from the topic of hazari uh

[49:11]what is the solution for a lay person who cannot decide by

[49:15]their own intellect due to the lack of background of islamic analytical

[49:18]sciences such as chronic interpretation or rajalo hadith and the science of

[49:24]semantics what should he or she do when they hear two scholars

[49:27]differing in an islamic concept so how would they make up their

[49:29]mind not being educated and just hearing that these two scholars have

[49:33]had a difference how would how would you advise them to make

[49:36]up their own mind good nice question before that let me come

[49:40]to a a small uh introduction to that why these people who

[49:45]are uh coming and giving fatwa from our communities and they are

[49:52]not qualified enough in rijal in this so either they are ignorant

[49:57]of what the specialized great scholars have given i'll give you an

[50:03]example our duty is to refer to specialized scholar an important example

[50:07]nowadays it's a hot topic issue of fatherhood and the door now

[50:13]these phd western type academic phd they started giving all kitab suleimans

[50:20]this and kitab suleimizer i challenge them they say kitab suleim is

[50:26]weak but give me a fatwa of ayatollah al-masidhi or a historian

[50:31]that the content of kitab suleim entirely is rejected and fabricated and

[50:38]challenging they will not bring that forth just because the book is

[50:44]not never linked properly doesn't mean that everything in the content is

[50:49]you see most of the duas are not linked properly but we

[50:54]can't say these are fabricated just because there's no link 50 percent

[50:57]there's a chance it could be correct it could mean what not

[51:01]be correct who verifies it a professional scholar see in our science

[51:08]what is your professional comment cousin i'm a student right now but

[51:13]uh tuition you can say what tuition no what should you do

[51:18]in future um in accounting good you are going to be specialized

[51:25]in accounting okay if i have an issue in accounting will i

[51:31]go to the mechanics no or a doctor intellectual society has specialization

[51:41]our our some of our community members they want kichly you know

[51:47]it's kitch3 mix everything they want somebody who's done a phd to

[51:52]be historian phd an academic historian for giving fatwa giving tafsir give

[51:58]it baba what are you doing this is not this is absurd

[52:01]intellectually so these people they give fatwa history so what happens in

[52:08]islam we have historians if we have an issue of history we're

[52:13]going to say jaffar murth of jaffar subhani these they have done

[52:17]extensive work in history you see he has 10 volumes the authentic

[52:25]lifestyle of the prophet sallallahu alaihi normally you will find two volumes

[52:32]three volumes four volumes about the seerah of the prophet lifestyle he

[52:35]has made ten volumes analytical history this great scholar has gone deep

[52:42]into history he's not giving fatwa he's a much time not giving

[52:45]fatwa no he's chose the specialization of history he has written two

[52:52]books two thick books he has proven with deep arguments holistic arguments

[52:58]that the incident of zahra now should i go and listen to

[53:05]this phd people or should i go to the professional in history

[53:07]and take from him so you see what messes we are living

[53:14]in mixed up somebody come from the member somebody come some the

[53:16]phd guy he just rejects the issue of zara and he's not

[53:20]even a historian and the absurdity is not from the person who

[53:23]speaks the absurdity of many of the community members who believe in

[53:27]somebody who's not a professional person in history if i want i'll

[53:31]give you an example another example i went to ayatollah once i

[53:36]asked him a historian is a question which is related to history

[53:39]he told me go to those who have done extensive research the

[53:47]researchers you see that means he has vast depth in that field

[53:52]philosophy you go to allah methodology of islamic jurisprudence logical methodology you

[54:10]see so there is a specialization in islamic very few people they

[54:15]become like in several areas let's say in hadith in these are

[54:27]very few people and they have done their life is all in

[54:31]this these fields so not every much the head has over and

[54:35]all everything our problem is that lay people your answer to your

[54:47]question they need to learn to refer to the professionals not to

[54:53]the of member me i'm not a professional in history i have

[54:57]a massage a book of a historian he compiled so whatever is

[55:02]in it there are few things i don't choose to say from

[55:08]my majalis but i i refer to historian i have to respect

[55:11]that historian who has done extensive work collected the messiah with references

[55:16]academic work done i referred now right wrong he's responsible in front

[55:20]of allah so this brings me to the issue that the the

[55:26]people what is the responsibility so tacleed is two types okay then

[55:32]you have to choose a marjah and that's it and most knowledgeable

[55:37]most accurate most so that is in fikka when it comes to

[55:41]aka okay you also do takli but to whom two professionals okay

[55:47]there's a misconception you cannot do that to akai i'm going to

[55:52]clear that misconception so they say you do that anywhere and i

[55:56]say so why why there are people saying you should why there

[56:02]are scholars saying you don't do that in akkad there's a big

[56:04]misconception in our communities big misconceptions divided into two areas very important

[56:12]concept my beloved ones whoever is listening to me please think about

[56:18]it it's a very intellectual concept akai there are two types one

[56:22]is the framework okay which you need to use your intellect logical

[56:27]arguments there you don't do that god exists oneness of god just

[56:33]of god the day of judgment and the concept of imam this

[56:39]can be proven by intellectual arguments you don't do that in other

[56:46]areas like prophet muhammad sallallahu alaihi our imams names and those details

[56:50]you will have to refer to islamic sources and what are islamic

[56:57]sources quran and the hadith and there you need to have professional

[57:00]people who understand these things so you do not you are not

[57:09]qualified in hadith in rajah in quran in nasser mansoor apparent meaning

[57:15]inner meaning metaphors there is semantics a lot of things are used

[57:20]to deduce the concepts so scholarly work professionalism intellectual direction so framework

[57:33]of you try to see the the arguments you have to be

[57:37]satisfied by yourself then in when it comes to the details of

[57:39]aka ed there you need to choose you don't have to choose

[57:45]one scholar you see one scholar gives like i'll give you an

[57:47]example for example raja there are some non-essential concepts of belief return

[57:54]of the infallibles some scholars they say it's the return of the

[58:00]imams some scholars they say no it's imams will return now see

[58:03]the who says it's not from our essential parts of our religion

[58:07]so you find two scholars they have arguments quran hadith you want

[58:13]to choose the scholar who supports rajah you're most welcome you want

[58:16]to choose the scholar who does not support rajah you are most

[58:22]welcome you see this is not essential but essentials okay you have

[58:25]to have your own direction with the mainstream imam selection of god

[58:32]not by the people our imams twelve imams imams infallible because there's

[58:37]all in quran and hadith the argument to prove these so these

[58:45]are essentials which mainstream direction of shiism iman's selected imam imam the

[58:52]living those who deny imam mahdi they are no more from the

[58:55]school of animal bait even if they claim that we are shias

[59:00]there are no more imams have knowledge allah has given to them

[59:04]imams they don't have knowledge equal to god but imam has knowledge

[59:07]more than us and imams have knowledge given to them as a

[59:11]gift by allah they don't know hundred percent of but whatever they

[59:16]want to know they can know by the will of allah allah

[59:21]is in the equation so it's not ghanu when you say like

[59:23]that gulu is when you say god's knowledge and imam's knowledge is

[59:27]equal majority of the shias were the mainstream they don't say like

[59:31]that okay so knowledge of the imam ability to perform miracles these

[59:35]are proven by quran and hadith of mass narrations so that's why

[59:42]our ulamas from till now they form this strong ideology which defines

[59:46]the shiasm so if you are not believing in these you are

[59:52]out of the circle i give you a few examples so essentials

[59:53]you have to believe in it to be shia non-essentials if you

[60:00]don't believe in one you then you are still shia so this

[60:03]like non-essentials are like raja as i mentioned so this is something

[60:10]which i should let me make a conclusion because let me make

[60:14]a conclusion about this so in fikka also we have essentials like

[60:17]salat you don't do that in it details of salah you do

[60:24]takrid in it because they are derived from the sources and sources

[60:28]needs professionals but here you do that lead to one person who's

[60:30]most knowledgeable when we come to [Music] belief creeds okay theology so

[60:36]you have also two things the essentials uh framework you have to

[60:44]by yourself do the arguments and set it be satisfied and the

[60:49]framework because it's derived from the sources you have to refer to

[60:55]professional and these these this these this fill in the framework are

[61:01]two types essentials we all have to believe in it for our

[61:04]identity non-essentials no you you see two scholars they are scholars on

[61:08]the top level experts they differ you can choose this one you

[61:14]can choose that one there's no problem in it so the main

[61:15]thing is refer to the professionals and if let's say i am

[61:21]a lame person i'm confused what will i do i will follow

[61:25]the the mainstream direction of the scholars not the people majority of

[61:30]the people could be deviated but when i have scholars intellectual scholars

[61:34]okay using intellect using methodology 10 of them i become more satisfied

[61:41]intellectually because 10 professionals are indicating something so it's the majority of

[61:47]the professionals and not majority of the people so i'll give you

[61:49]an example one of my see when i am discussing this i'm

[61:56]blunt when it comes to principles but using wisdom and all those

[61:58]kind of things following that but when it comes to social interaction

[62:01]you see you will find me with all these controvers controversial personalities

[62:05]i'll sit with them we'll crack some jokes and this and that

[62:08]socially we'll be together but intellectually i'd be very blunt following the

[62:14]direction of the mainstream merchandia so one of my one of these

[62:18]phd peoples who are claiming who's claiming is what's that he says

[62:23]put this in your mind compare keep allah okay keep allah as

[62:31]you're watching you tell me truthfully uh all these maharaja they are

[62:35]saying this he mentioned a few messiah they say i consider myself

[62:39]not a qualified person if you are qualified you are one and

[62:44]i have ten qualified who have studied more than you you're studying

[62:48]only phd they have studied like 30 40 years so my intellect

[62:53]is use your intellect my intellect tells me to follow where most

[62:57]of the intellectuals are agreeing on one thing and you are on

[63:02]so i will leave you and i respect you but i will

[63:06]leave you and i will follow the majority of the intellectual professionals

[63:10]not majority of the people majority of the intellectual professionals so that

[63:15]is so he started smiling at me and then i'm done we

[63:18]we i left him in a good turn so i respect you

[63:22]see but what when it comes to academia i have to discuss

[63:27]bluntly and try to uh try to um rebuttal the arguments the

[63:34]flaw in the arguments which are presented presented by these people so

[63:38]my advice is that's why our marriage they say follow the mainstream

[63:42]merchandise not mainstream people mainstream yet why because it's not one it

[63:48]is 10 15 20 30 on one side and we have odd

[63:51]in east africa in western united states or where uk these are

[63:58]old people coming out and it is not an intellectual direction that

[64:01]we start following odds and we leave the the giants of the

[64:06]hausa el mia who have dwelt and swimmed inside the depth of

[64:10]logical methodologies and are progressive as well thank you so much um

[64:17]just two more questions left and inshallah we can conclude the discussion

[64:20]um what are the areas that scholars could defer in islamic sciences

[64:26]like where is it acceptable for scholars to have differences are there

[64:29]some areas which it is impossible for them to even be considered

[64:31]you know in the same motherhood if they have a difference in

[64:34]and you know yeah if you can elaborate please so so i

[64:39]answered in my previous question as some examples i gave you so

[64:42]differences can be i'll give you three examples it can be like

[64:47]in a creed differences can be in islamic jurisprudence and differences can

[64:55]be history differences can be in philosophical concept so all these areas

[64:59]because islam is part and parcel of intellectual society and there is

[65:05]so much deep professionalism in islamic economics there can be differences so

[65:09]differences can be there but there are as i mentioned in my

[65:14]previous uh answer to my previous question there are essentials salaat is

[65:20]wajal we cannot have differences there hijab is wajib like the new

[65:25]feminist movement they come and they say no hijab is internal hijab

[65:28]that is out of the circle of islamic the shiasm especially school

[65:32]of babe okay some of those odd marriages are okay some of

[65:40]the our sunni uh school of thought they they started accepting those

[65:44]or marriage they have massages also no for us we respect every

[65:47]peaceful human being but for us we cannot accept those directions those

[65:53]are where differences are not accepted so the essentials of islam and

[65:59]then essential of the school of imam chosen by god difference is

[66:03]not allowed you want to have different opinion and just get out

[66:08]of the shiism okay because shiism is all about these twelve imams

[66:11]you want to believe imam he does not exist and our sunni

[66:16]fellows they say there will be a person who will come who

[66:20]is going to be verbi so so we have this essentials imam

[66:23]mahdi it is an essential thing distinguishing between shia and not yet

[66:27]our immaz they have this ability to cure and heal this is

[66:34]something we get we derive from quran from the prophet isa al-isram

[66:38]from us okay so this is something essential knowledge of the they

[66:45]say the quran is the whole thing allah gave and will give

[66:49]to the prophets of allah why can't the prophet give israel what

[66:52]he has got from allah to imams so we have a lot

[66:59]discussions in this but the bottom line is our immense they have

[67:02]knowledge beyond the creation and below the knowledge of allah so that

[67:08]does not make me hulu and that that keeps me on the

[67:13]shiism so so these are where you can and there are others

[67:17]also giving you just example so these are areas the ulamas who

[67:20]claim that their shia scholars they cannot have differences differences are in

[67:27]the details okay like for example one of the differences some of

[67:32]the community indo pakistanis they say based blood is nudges okay uh

[67:38]no pure sorry pure the arab communities they say blood is normal

[67:45]what is their argument here they conclude from ayatul say this so

[67:49]now if you say that blood is nudges you are still going

[67:54]to be shia if you say it's not najes you're still going

[67:59]to be here because you have your argument so this is not

[68:03]from details these these are called intellectual curiosities the details we can

[68:09]have a lot of differences in details and then where should we

[68:12]refer to the professional scholars you see if the professional scholars they

[68:17]are true some say no a little bit blood is nudges some

[68:21]say no it's pure you like to follow this scholar you follow

[68:25]this caller you like to follow that scholar that scholar these are

[68:29]for example and this also can become controversial in certain communities where

[68:34]the ignorant oh you're wahhabi because you're saying blood is because you're

[68:42]saying alibaba is pure controversial happens in there as well but that's

[68:47]that's how we say that the areas where there are differences they

[68:52]have to be embraced with tolerance and not with the intolerance so

[68:58]so i gave you example for example the usual i meant raja

[69:03]and usually the principles of religion so in akkad for example raja

[69:07]some accept all the iman some except no the imam so there

[69:11]can be differences but imam may be coming that is that's the

[69:17]shiism you see we can't we there is no compromise in that

[69:21]and then when we come to fikka we have essentials namaz is

[69:27]wajib hajjis vajim no muslims not only shia no muslims should deny

[69:32]this otherwise they'll be getting out of the circle of islam denying

[69:37]salat is essential for all the muslims but the details of salah

[69:41]they can have differences and that's what the comes in history there

[69:46]can be differences in historic history historical events but professionals should define

[69:51]the philosophy islamic economy it's a big world of intellectual system in

[69:58]islam it's a part and parcel of intellectual society so okay i'll

[70:06]not go to the doctor if i have a medical issue i'll

[70:09]not come to you okay yeah i'll go to the water so

[70:12]the same thing if we have an issue in philosophy we look

[70:14]into our philosophers who have done extensive work in philosophy and like

[70:19]that that's an intellectual direction thank you so much sheikh and uh

[70:25]to conclude the discussion maybe we narrow it down just to the

[70:29]shii sect if scholars belong to the motherboard of athlete how can

[70:31]they or why do they differ what causes the differences within our

[70:36]own sect thank you so much that's an important uh question uh

[70:39]because many people they ask that moon sighting issue i'll give you

[70:45]this moon sightings since we spoke and from that you can get

[70:48]an a an idea moonsiding issue why say the who and say

[70:52]this is they differ quran is one hadith is in our school

[70:59]so there are four narrations okay these four narrations what do they

[71:02]say the conclusion the jews of these four nations and their authentic

[71:09]narration if the moon is cited in one place it is sufficient

[71:12]for other period there is no detail there now each the heart

[71:20]comes in the thought process the broadening the depth so they use

[71:25]astronomy they use other hadith they use some ayaat which might not

[71:29]be very directly related but it gives them an insight so therefore

[71:34]here comes the difference so to listen to one reason how far

[71:39]distance no distance so since we went because the moon and i'm

[71:45]just giving a very simplified it's more than that for the audience

[71:49]to understand he said when is the moon sighted at night okay

[71:53]after the sunset so whenever there is night they all follow the

[72:00]same region east west doesn't matter however he says no the moon

[72:07]sighting of the first night is only limited to certain uh minutes

[72:13]of the first night doesn't reach mostly one hour so this is

[72:19]that the regions which are going to observe the moon in the

[72:24]in that close proximities they can only follow each other you see

[72:27]the this is not in the hadith the hadith left it open

[72:32]so they had to find out the astronomical things and other to

[72:38]indicate uh unity of the night or unity of the sunset you

[72:42]see i've made it very simplified there's more to it to to

[72:46]understand the difference some difference come as i told you say that

[72:50]he was a giant he is he's considered imam of hausa you

[72:54]see he reshuffled everything so things which would watch it based on

[72:58]narrations say we found out they were weak so those wajibs were

[73:01]averted now no more wajib they became measures and then uh slowly

[73:07]slowly like people of book the the purity of people of book

[73:13]and those kind of things and then we have the the uh

[73:15]the aha so this was based on ahadi some concepts like for

[73:19]example one of the concepts of said if we had a weak

[73:26]hadith the popularity the scholars were using this popularity popular scholar would

[73:31]use it that show that the popularity would patch up the weakness

[73:35]that's it who said for me it's not accepted and he proved

[73:40]the weakness of that concept so many of the things which was

[73:46]it became became normal many of the things which are haram based

[73:48]on that so you see even development that's where i say progressive

[73:51]people they call blame our marathon being non-progressive what is this if

[73:56]it is not progressive trying to filter out those days like sheikha

[74:00]sadok's time uh weak hadees were accepted okay then after some time

[74:07]they started finding out no so there are fatwas they're based on

[74:12]some hadith which a narrator is strong for one merjah a narrative

[74:16]is not strong for one merger based on their historical research and

[74:20]arguments for example you know someone okay i don't know that person

[74:27]to me he is a just person because everyone is innocent until

[74:31]proven to be guilty so i will take his hadith but for

[74:36]uh for me for you you know he's a liar he's your

[74:40]close friend so you'll not depend on his words correct but for

[74:46]me so let's say he testifies for the moon with two witness

[74:50]the other witness you will not do eight tomorrow why because you

[74:53]know one of the witnesses is not just but for me both

[74:57]are just so see how we both following the same marjah because

[75:01]of the the witness same thing narrator is like a witness he

[75:08]testifies the hadith some scholars they they found out that the narrators

[75:14]whom some scholar they rely on as trusted or not trusted so

[75:19]their fatwa changes from this pathway you see so same school of

[75:25]ahmed bay they can have diversity in fatwa due to these few

[75:29]examples i gave naruto uh hadith leaving a gap you see like

[75:35]moon sighting issue or concepts being changed and developed these are three

[75:39]examples i gave you thank you so much sheikh unfortunately at this

[75:45]point we have come to an end to our show i would

[75:48]like to thank you shakespeare so much for gracing us and enlightening

[75:51]us with all of your precious time knowledge and experience i'm sure

[75:54]the audience as well as i have all taken away a lot

[75:58]from this interesting episode and in charlotte and the knowledge we have

[76:00]picked up will have a profound impact when we have when we

[76:02]come to hear of different opinions and islamic issues we can use

[76:08]tolerance and inshallah avoid controversy we are also grateful for the rest

[76:10]of the hard working team behind the scenes for facilitating this live

[76:13]show and last but certainly not least i would like to thank

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