Science and the existence of God - Hajj Hassanain Rajabali

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[0:00]and I do know that as Muslims we especially as Muslims we're

[0:07]living in a society where the modern society where science and the

[0:12]exposure of newer methodologies is a very prevalent part of our lives

[0:18]and it's a wonderful thing the fact that the tools of science

[0:23]have reached the level that they have today at the level that

[0:27]we are able to even correlate validate and falsify any false notions

[0:32]in science I think that's fantastic it's really very encouraging but I'd

[0:37]like us to understand that we have to understand what the definition

[0:40]of science is and how different is that with relations to how

[0:48]we see religion are these two irreconcilable entities are they two separate

[0:55]universes that cannot be reconciled is one under the other what is

[1:02]it so because once you understand these definitions once you understand the

[1:05]functions of these definitions and once you understand the limitations of science

[1:10]and once you understand where religion comes into play the necessity of

[1:15]religion what is the definition of religion what does what is religion

[1:20]when someone says are you religious or do you have religion or

[1:23]do you follow a religion or when people said I'm against religion

[1:27]what do they mean by that okay so it's extremely important my

[1:33]suggestion to us all if we want to strengthen our iman there

[1:39]is a methodology by which you and I must follow in order

[1:44]to correlate conversations so we don't go into cyclic all argumentative sessions

[1:49]so first and foremost define your terms even when you're talking to

[1:55]someone ask them what do you mean by this what is your

[1:58]definition of this word can you please define it can you explain

[2:04]it to me further if a person is articulate enough to be

[2:08]able to give you good definitions though you and I may reject

[2:14]those the it's a good starting point because now you can adapt

[2:18]according to that definition answers it's almost like a logical pathway where

[2:24]a logical pathway requires a precondition which is called an assumption without

[2:30]assumptions you cannot have logical pathways as a methodology and once you

[2:36]have a fixed system the logical mechanical system simply demands the variables

[2:41]to you know to come in and it will process and give

[2:43]you the number just like in a function mathematical function there's a

[2:50]logical pathway but what you feed into it can vary the same

[2:54]with logical discussions about religion in God it's got a pathway and

[2:57]what you feed in it is going to give you a result

[3:01]many a times people who discuss religion who discuss God who discuss

[3:06]methodologies don't have an understanding of this logical methodology they have not

[3:13]validated the equation they have not validated the logical system they have

[3:20]assumed it is legit they have assumed it is right and therefore

[3:24]they start pumping the variables into it which then starts giving them

[3:29]odd answers which then leads them to make odd conclusions which then

[3:33]leads them to make conclusions that in principle if there was the

[3:39]truth of that issue there would be astray and it makes you

[3:42]wonder how come I came across this wrong answer well it's because

[3:47]you didn't process it properly so please understand brothers and sisters in

[3:52]these conversations as Muslims even as non-muslims we must be very methodical

[3:55]in our method in our method of approaching the truth I don't

[4:00]care if it's about God and no God it's about within Islam

[4:03]between the schools of thought the which of the five major schools

[4:07]of thought is correct between Christians and Muslims between Jews and Muslims

[4:11]between Buddhists and Muslims which one is right how do I know

[4:16]which religion is right I went through that phase as I mentioned

[4:19]in my lectures few nights ago when I deconstructed my religion because

[4:23]I was doubtful I was not sure if Islam is the right

[4:28]religion I needed validations and I felt it's my responsibility and duty

[4:34]to understand it in my heart because I don't want anybody preaching

[4:38]religion to me I'm not interested I do not want to be

[4:43]fooled and I don't want anybody giving me fairy tales to scare

[4:47]me because I'm afraid of going to hell I don't care I

[4:53]want certainty whatever it is if you're gonna tell me that's the

[4:56]way it is and that's the name and that's the brand and

[5:00]I'm convinced that's the truth and that's what I have to be

[5:03]it's as simple as that that's what I loved about science when

[5:07]I went into science I loved science because of his methodical approach

[5:10]to things it was non what we call emotive there was no

[5:16]emotion involved in it it was very methodical at the fundamental level

[5:20]what makes religion so powerful it has that component of emotions it's

[5:27]got the component of faith it's got the component of tawakkal which

[5:33]science doesn't have and as human beings we can never be purist

[5:37]in methodical systems unless you lower yourself down to a robotic level

[5:40]you're not a human being anymore emotions are an extremely powerful method

[5:46]of bonding and making things clearer it's amazing when you love someone

[5:51]and one tear comes out of your eye when you're traveling that's

[5:54]louder than all the words you can say to a person about

[5:58]how much you love them that one tear because it saves too

[6:04]much right that's an emotional state science cannot grapple that but let

[6:09]me explain very briefly that there is a methodology and I demanded

[6:13]that for myself because I did not want to be fooled and

[6:17]I wanted to make sure that I was as unbiased as possible

[6:19]in my approach so when people say to you look we need

[6:24]to do a scientific analysis and methodical analysis you need to be

[6:28]as non biased as possible I used to believe that yes there

[6:31]is a way in which one can be totally non bias I

[6:35]came to the conclusion later on in my life that it's impossible

[6:38]to avoid a bias it's impossible nobody can be free from a

[6:44]bias it's impossible so let's not fool ourselves in that but we

[6:50]do try to limit the biases and control it so that at

[6:52]least our judgment is not skewed because of our biases I hope

[6:59]I'm making sense now okay so in that process I started to

[7:01]question the integrity of my belief from God onwards because I knew

[7:10]fundamentally that all ideologies come from a central route just like when

[7:13]I study a cell I'm always working at this at the the

[7:17]nuclear level as a as a person studying molecular science what fascinated

[7:23]me about recombinant DNA was DNA is the root of life it's

[7:29]the only molecule known to man that can replicate itself and it's

[7:33]the template that decides how I'm going to be as a living

[7:35]being and I love that I said I want to know this

[7:38]I may not practice molecular science but I want to know because

[7:44]my curiosity is there because the the incredible hand of God is

[7:50]working at that level where you have DNA polymerase replicating a copy

[7:54]you see making a copy of the original strand this double helix

[7:58]system was fascinating to me that how Allah in His infinite mercy

[8:05]has could you know collapsed I mean contracted this very very intricate

[8:12]complicated formula and then completely contracted it into a very very tight

[8:19]coil and it's so functional it's so elegant and it's so secure

[8:23]and it's so rapid said wow what is this so as I'm

[8:29]studying science every day I would come out it says is it

[8:34]possible this can happen by chance what is the probability I'd asked

[8:37]the mathematicians I'd go to math you know I'm a math professors

[8:40]what's the probability tell me crunch some numbers to me please how

[8:43]is that possible there's too much order I'm seeing way too much

[8:48]structure that me after spending you know years studying this and I'm

[8:51]watching it in a microscope and you're seeing this thing happen in

[8:54]a millisecond so that's it that's all right all these years I

[8:58]studied is right there says yeah that's it and I'm supposed to

[9:00]be a smart guy what I did was I looked at it

[9:04]and I broke it down and I can tell you and I

[9:07]can predict Wow what is this methodology to me it's intriguing but

[9:10]still the point is going to the nucleus level any conversation always

[9:15]find the nucleus if you ever study atomic science nuclear science you

[9:20]see it's all out there and the atomic and the atomic level

[9:24]you find subatomic level quarks whatever you go even if you go

[9:27]into quantum physics you'll see there's always a center which spreads out

[9:30]and expresses itself there's always a center to everything even the universe

[9:32]if you study you'll see that the galaxies are moving around circles

[9:36]in disk shapes and there's always a center allah says in havana

[9:42]kala ayat allah call me at effect quran these are signs for

[9:46]community that things so the more I got into it the more

[9:53]I realize there is that score so in my belief system what

[9:55]is my core I said my core is a deity because my

[10:00]origination has to have a precursor and that precursor that made me

[10:04]in the universe must be at the center for causing Who I

[10:08]am who is this one do you exist are you there how

[10:14]come I can't see you how come you don't show yourself and

[10:17]why are you so great that I can't see you couldn't you

[10:22]be great and I could see you so these were questions I

[10:25]always asked myself all the time and the more I delved into

[10:30]it in a methodical way I began to realize wow what a

[10:34]foolish question to see God that I have seen God enough by

[10:40]looking at his creation oh that's a leap of faith no it's

[10:43]not because in my scientific world I remember we used to come

[10:48]up with all kinds of conjectural arguments let's for example to give

[10:51]you a quick analysis you see for example people like Stephen Hawking's

[10:54]was written a book called brief history of time and he's written

[10:56]many books by the way he's even done a whole series called

[11:00]the elegant universe where when you study he talks in fact he

[11:03]was one of the proponents who suggested the idea of black holes

[11:07]when they study the density of the universe they notice that the

[11:11]universe is far denser than what was visible and they could not

[11:15]reconcile mathematically that huge discrepancy in the numbers with regards to the

[11:19]density of the universe compared to what was visibly and measurable and

[11:22]they knew there was some kind of dark matter out there that

[11:25]could not be visibly seen and that light could not penetrate it

[11:29]and they called it the dark hole the black hole they call

[11:31]it which light cannot kind of trade through and it's infinitely dense

[11:37]they call it infinitely hot and they called it a singularity a

[11:41]singularity is that point of origination where mass is soaked dense it's

[11:45]got not that it's the ultimate basically so the more I studied

[11:50]this the more I realized I said Hawking's his richness conclusion without

[11:54]seeing this dark matter is that acceptable in science because if science

[11:58]is so tangible and everything is measurable can I measure something by

[12:04]negating something can I conclude the existence of something by rejecting something

[12:10]you know as can I derive scientific understanding without having to tangibly

[12:14]see something but I see the effect of that thing that's hidden

[12:20]through that which is seen can I do that and I said

[12:21]uh-huh we do in fact if you study string theories in string

[12:27]theories you this 11th dimension 12th dimension you know Michio Kaku for

[12:33]example is a Japanese physicist there are many out there who talk

[12:37]about string theories in superstring theories they're talking about dimensions that no

[12:40]science in the world today can experiment it cannot be experimented it

[12:44]can be derived indirectly and we can try to see the effects

[12:47]just like we cannot see electrons around a proton we can't see

[12:50]it but we know it's there so we're deriving so many things

[12:55]that I started to understand I said Wow even in the world

[12:58]of science if I really want to get up into the purest

[13:03]of the forms of Sciences it's all derivation x' it's all with

[13:06]a clear understanding that once I see the foundations I can now

[13:09]talk about entities that you can never tangibly touch but that are

[13:13]so real in my life they're just as real as a tangible

[13:18]and the more I went into that the more I came to

[13:21]the conclusion that science says yes I said then why am i

[13:25]rejected into believing about a deity that I cannot measure for I

[13:32]can derive it even even you know Richard carrier called me he

[13:37]says Roger Bailey believes in evidential presuppositional ISM it's a heavy word

[13:44]Roger Valley believes in evidential presuppositional ISM I chuckled I said Richard

[13:50]that's what science is all about it is evidential presuppositional ism we're

[13:55]scientists that's what it's all about I see and therefore I presuppose

[14:00]hello you're just putting some fancy words around this thing to confuse

[14:04]mankind to create some kind of a smokescreen but let's face it

[14:07]which scientist is not an evidential presuppositionalist for at the end of

[14:11]the day it's the evidence that I presuppose how do I get

[14:15]into a laboratory with our presuppositions so look how they try to

[14:18]weave these words to try to confuse me and I said what

[14:22]I exist I'm questioning my system I'm looking around it is it

[14:27]possible this grand spectacular system can come out of pure chance can

[14:32]pure chance control order can totality of disorder bring about order these

[14:39]are absurd statements in science absurd that when you look at chance

[14:43]and probabilities it is completely controlled within a control system there is

[14:48]no such thing as totality of chance outside of a control system

[14:51]it's it's inconceivable it's like saying there was so much randomness it

[14:56]suddenly formed a computer which formed an operating system which became Microsoft

[15:02]Windows that's absurd absurd now imagine trying to project these kinds of

[15:08]postulates forward in science people think you're crazy so I say wait

[15:12]a minute there's a root here that as much as there are

[15:16]chances and probabilities of things can happen and probabilities are there and

[15:20]Allah has allowed me in this spectacular universe to counter every coin

[15:24]with a counter coin which is what life is so beautiful about

[15:27]but no one ever said that there is never an argument for

[15:30]something for there's no consistency to something because if there was no

[15:33]consent to anything then science should not exist because science needs to

[15:38]stand on a consistent foundation do for it to project any solutions

[15:42]and any answers and the more I got into it the more

[15:45]I realize wait I mean I'm being duped into this these what

[15:48]we call rhetorical talk its rhetoric it's all rhetoric you get it

[15:53]it's not real its rhetoric it's just made up stories to confuse

[15:58]us and and I and I challenged in my university I used

[16:00]to sit with my professors and challenge what do you mean by

[16:04]this word well this I said this you're violating science you say

[16:07]nature nature decides I said how does it decide is it intelligent

[16:12]what do you mean by it taking this position and not that

[16:14]position why is evolution so progressive oh because if it wasn't it

[16:19]would cease to exist why is the necessity to exist so important

[16:24]well that's just the way it works I said well if you

[16:26]wonder why is the way it works oh I was supposed to

[16:29]just throw our hands in the air and say well that's it

[16:33]so in other words if you tell me that don't lie and

[16:35]I say why not you say well that's the way it works

[16:38]and that's it that's my answer in other words I should be

[16:40]so myopic in all my movements my ethical movements should just be

[16:45]a nose you know strike away that's it nothing long-term that I

[16:48]should worry about I said well you know you may have an

[16:50]argument but to me that's a very foolish childish argument I'm not

[16:55]willing to accept that as a human being I think we're far

[16:58]too intelligent for such conversations and the more I went into it

[17:01]the more I started looking so now let me just conclude on

[17:05]this real fast before we go to the Q&A session so what

[17:06]what about evolution was adam evolved because this is a classic question

[17:12]we have because we've got what we call the neo-darwinian theories of

[17:15]evolution as you know darwin was a believer in God and the

[17:18]Origin of Species that he wrote about there were so many conjectures

[17:23]ago if you studied them there were over 270 hypothetical ifs in

[17:26]his in his theory if if this was this would be if

[17:32]this is this would be this was how Darwin was originally presenting

[17:35]the Darwinian theories now what Darwin brought when he observed the finches

[17:40]and you know in the Galapagos Islands and so on it's a

[17:45]very valid question did we evolve and I think scientifically it's very

[17:48]valid question it should be asked that way because science by definition

[17:51]is a methodology to understand the reality based on the system and

[18:01]I wanna repeat it based on the system of cause and effect

[18:05]science is an observation based on a system of cause and effect

[18:10]that's it it's that simple everything we study in science is either

[18:15]in effect and we study the cause or we understand the cause

[18:19]and we create the effect that's what science is about it's a

[18:22]methodology that's it and we try to purify the methodology such that

[18:28]we know when to create the effect when we want it because

[18:30]we know how it works just like when a guy builds an

[18:33]aircraft there are thousand ways to put in an aircraft but you

[18:35]know when that 747 is going to carry 300 people you know

[18:38]it's cool most probably gonna reach its destination because the ones who

[18:42]built it tested all the possibilities and made sure any potential danger

[18:46]to that flight was removed from its parameters which then increased the

[18:50]safety record of the aircraft you agree it's a methodology it's a

[18:55]scientific approach that's all it's about so it's a system of cause

[19:00]and effect and in science in a pure form of science I

[19:02]am in effect what caused me did I come from a predecessor

[19:06]I dunno I have parents did my parents have parents who had

[19:08]parents with parents but who were those parents that came that's the

[19:11]question so in science to go backward in this methodology and therefore

[19:17]to use this term evolution is not wrong there's nothing wrong with

[19:20]it micro or macro when we look at all the levels of

[19:23]evolution all of them have some credibility to it and they are

[19:28]a necessary part of science so let's not collectively holistically take this

[19:31]whole thing and throw it out the window says no no this

[19:34]has nothing to do with me God I'm a Muslim this is

[19:38]not proper approach to science proper approach to science is to say

[19:42]I see the term I recognize it I see its function I

[19:45]see its limitations I accept it with its understanding of limitations otherwise

[19:50]I'm not generically and unanimously accepting nor rejecting that is the proper

[19:55]way of observing what science is all about I hope you understand

[19:58]that so when we talk about generic terms does except evolution hirama

[20:03]halal well there's no Haram aha lot to say that evolution is

[20:07]the mother of all and to philosophically take a leap of faith

[20:12]to say therefore there is no God and therefore there is no

[20:14]need for God because evolution is managing all of that that to

[20:19]me is blind statement that's not science that to me is a

[20:22]religion that's the definition what is religion religion is an ideology that

[20:29]translates into a way of life it's a way of life that's

[20:33]ideologically tracked and when I reject God that's my religion when I

[20:37]really accept half a God that's my religion when I consider science

[20:42]to be my pathway that's my religion so religion by definition is

[20:45]a way of life with a certain set of scruples that even

[20:47]an atheist has scruples they have methods by which they derive their

[20:51]laws so religion in in principle means anybody who's intelligent and capable

[20:56]of articulating an idea has to have a religion in other words

[21:02]there's no human being other than a vegetable mentally who does not

[21:08]have a religion that's my definition science is a method is the

[21:13]evolution the mother of all absurd evolution is a system that even

[21:18]when you have collisions a collision is a system when gases collide

[21:27]which brings about life it's a system there are mechanical systems where

[21:31]do these gases come from and gases cannot function without an environment

[21:36]and what about the mathematical systems we know by the laws of

[21:40]probability when when something has a probability chance it's a product always

[21:44]a product so if it's one in a million and there's another

[21:49]product that can happen one in a million and these two must

[21:52]be multiplied one in a million times one in a million always

[21:57]the case it's a mathematical rule it's no one can violate that

[22:00]now when you multiply these probabilities by logical analysis the numbers get

[22:06]smaller so regression is part of pure chance in probabilities meaning one

[22:11]in a million divided one by one million it's now one intense

[22:16]to the to that twelve because now that six zeros and the

[22:19]six zeros just got doubled so what do you do then the

[22:25]numbers get smaller oh that means that pure chance is regressive not

[22:29]progressive so we've got progressive systems we've got ideologies we've got faith

[22:35]we got morality these are not products of pure mechanical sciences so

[22:40]no one in its proper mind can dare say that evolution as

[22:45]a methodology of replication and bringing about this complex multicellular human being

[22:51]like you and I is the only reason for our existence it's

[22:55]so childish so myopic with due respect to those who believe in

[23:00]it it is so childish I can't believe they're getting away with

[23:05]it in academia honestly I cannot believe it I only think the

[23:07]reason they're doing this is because they don't want to get in

[23:09]there because they're afraid of it and partly I don't blame them

[23:15]because people offer religion who have fabricated religions who have taken this

[23:20]argument of science when they were in power they punished scientists is

[23:23]to burn them by the stakes and they used to castigate them

[23:26]and destroy them and saying you're playing with God so yes if

[23:31]science has come back with a vengeance in saying keep science keep

[23:34]religion out of science partly I don't blame them but historically when

[23:38]the Muslims like eben Sinha if you take a horizontal beam hyeyeon

[23:43]these are famous fathers of science of modern modernity that if forgive

[23:49]me what is me al-khwarizmi he's the one who came up with

[23:53]the idea of algorithms all of computer worlds are algorithms zeros and

[23:57]ones constant algorithms this is all what was established by what is

[24:02]me these people when they were writing this they were every other

[24:04]sentence had God in it subhanAllah look at this they they're talking

[24:08]about God take even Senna who was he discovered many things in

[24:13]science including circulation if you study these people you'll find that they

[24:17]were always talking about Allah how could they because that's the way

[24:20]it should be but in the modern world today where those who

[24:23]want to go into pure pure pure science and I want to

[24:25]negate God where the atheistic movement is now in full force around

[24:30]the universities to me I find it is a violation of free

[24:33]thinking for if you're gonna limit me to question even the existence

[24:36]of God as a scientist then you are a slave owner because

[24:41]you have limited my capacity to question and why should I get

[24:43]fired if I'm a teacher who is ever going to talk about

[24:46]creation and God and an intelligent designer why should I get fired

[24:49]to me that's a conspiracy that to me is politics that's not

[24:52]real science real scientists give me the opportunity Quran even says cool

[24:58]AHA to burhanakum in kuntum sada came say to them bring your

[25:00]proof if you are truthful don't don't condemn me and damned me

[25:03]because I want to bring God into the picture this is absurd

[25:07]so I'm just letting you understand that there is a conspiracy out

[25:11]there no doubt conspiracy and part of the conspiracy spills into even

[25:15]very honest people and part of the conspiracy is that those who

[25:20]have pretended to hold array the Rope of God's religion are abusing

[25:24]people and misusing it which leads to greater atheism and agnosticism take

[25:29]a person like for example I give you a simple example the

[25:33]ex-governor is you know Jesse Ventura the ex governor of Minnesota Jesse

[25:39]Ventura is really a pragmatist okay an ex-marine who's really seeing a

[25:45]lot of the wrong things that are being done in the government

[25:48]and in the justice system of people he publicly states I'm an

[25:52]atheist said on believing God I'm against religion to me it kills

[25:56]it because as as as altruistic as years as much as he

[26:03]strives to uncover the truth he kills it when he says I

[26:06]don't want religion now why because he's also a victim of having

[26:08]seen abuse and misuse of religion which has led him to shut

[26:13]off on religion I don't blame such people sometimes but it's our

[26:17]obligation to articulate it well and to expose it to them I've

[26:20]had many an atheist I sit down with it and they ask

[26:22]me questions in the minute I give them answers I said oh

[26:24]I thought it was different well I I thought it was like

[26:27]this I said you're comparing your religion on the basis of Christian

[26:30]beliefs in God I said please don't apply Christian ideologies to all

[26:34]of theistic arguments that's just one argument apply a universal argument I

[26:39]remember my first debate was a woman who came she said I

[26:44]was a Christian I became an atheist but I always argued from

[26:47]the Christian God argument and hence I was an atheist but after

[26:50]this debate I am going to reconsider God because I see a

[26:55]whole new perspective on God see that's the difference okay and let

[26:59]me conclude finally that a lost one of the Allah shows us

[27:01]how could Adam come into this picture let me show you a

[27:06]basic premise argument that as much as science is limited to cause

[27:09]and effect we do agree that that initial cause no science has

[27:13]been able to answer today there is no science in the world

[27:16]that can answer the origin of life no scientists in the world

[27:18]knows the origin of life there are suggestions that he came from

[27:23]another planet I said I don't if it came from the other

[27:25]side of the this universe who cares where it came from the

[27:29]question is was it always there or did it come out of

[27:31]nothing that's the question the human mind notice my range in my

[27:37]mind is what all of us 0 infinity 0 infinity you cannot

[27:40]stop this we have our two extreme boundaries 0 infinity that's it

[27:44]and you know in science I remember whenever Isis that even calculus

[27:49]I used to always study about this infinity you know Isaac Newton

[27:53]actually came up with the system of calculus which is natural mathematics

[27:56]which actually talks the language of the universe and Einstein had a

[28:01]problem because you cannot divide a number by 0 that's an illegal

[28:04]function so he is to cheat and come up with an answer

[28:08]so people said all your science is is flawed because you're cheating

[28:11]so there was a French mathematician who came up with the answer

[28:15]and says it's limits don't divide it by zero but get to

[28:20]zero infinitely as X approaches whatever which makes it infinitely zero in

[28:24]fake approaches zero but it's never zero and that's legal it's called

[28:27]limits I said well why do I need limits this is where

[28:30]actually the true language of science is infinity says Han Allah I

[28:35]see that now you'd like click like a you know a puzzle

[28:40]that fell into its head Wow there it is so Han Allah

[28:42]actually the entire world of science is driven by infinity without infinity

[28:46]nothing makes sense and then I started scratching my head is's but

[28:53]you know as important as this entity is it's not tangible I

[28:58]can't touch it I can't measure it I can talk about it

[29:02]I can apply things towards it but I can never feel it

[29:05]something's always approaching infinity but never becomes infinite because the minute it

[29:08]becomes infinite you can't talk about it Wow and you know I

[29:12]don't want to take a blind leap of faith because it's not

[29:16]but the first thing that came to my mind I said this

[29:19]infinity in the reality is Allah everything is approaching infinity and the

[29:25]more I studied I noticed there's nothing in the universe as soon

[29:30]as it comes out of zero is never stopping but approaching infinity

[29:33]and you know philosophically I said in a Leela well in alayhi

[29:38]Rajan I see it I see physical entities approaching Allah forever Wow

[29:42]and it's the language of Allah that gives credence to everything but

[29:48]I can never explain it so when people ask me give me

[29:50]this tangible God if you don't have a tangible God you're talking

[29:53]nonsense in your religion I said give me the tangible infinity because

[29:57]if you're not you're talking nonsense in science and they back off

[30:01]so give it to me I want to see it then don't

[30:05]talk about it don't give me 13 dimensions you can't you an

[30:07]experiment with it what is this conjectural science you're talking about there's

[30:10]no that's derivative I said thank you I'm deriving to I am

[30:14]a evidence you know presuppositionalist I am existing I see this fantastic

[30:16]universe I'm studying science I'm seeing it's incredible order should I not

[30:21]ask the question of a maker should I not even think about

[30:23]intelligence what are you talking about if I as an intelligent being

[30:26]dares to go on the alter of intelligence to question the integrity

[30:28]of my own existence how can I not question the integrity of

[30:32]my maker and they back off and finally I'll tell you final

[30:38]point you see when you study the DNA the proof of intelligence

[30:40]is in the DNA because one of the proofs of intelligence is

[30:43]language see we're intelligent beings in fact when they did Studies on

[30:50]monkeys and apes they found out how intelligent are the Apes how

[30:52]did we come from them what's that missing link between us and

[30:57]you find that language was a critical thing that was trying to

[31:00]teach these Apes you know to to understand language because language was

[31:05]a critical point of the sign of intelligence now they do have

[31:07]line which by the way even burns their language we don't have

[31:11]arguments with them but we do know that's a sign of intelligence

[31:13]because one of the conditions of intelligence is language in language is

[31:18]composed of encode decode like I'm right now encoding as I'm speaking

[31:22]to you I'm encoding I'm encoding words I'm encoding gestures I'm encoding

[31:27]ideas to you and you're listening to it and you're decoding instantaneously

[31:31]so we are intelligently conversing because there's encode decode encode decode that's

[31:37]what life is about I hope you understand that DNA is precisely

[31:44]that it's an encode which then gets decoded intelligence Wow can we

[31:48]deny it no so I hope you understand that okay final point

[31:51]and I promise you this is the end of the final point

[31:54]is that when we say where did Adam come into this picture

[31:56]the origin can never come on its own the salaah spawn at

[32:03]Alice showing us that when he interject and brings in other beings

[32:07]in between this flow it's just as good as the first one

[32:14]and that's the answer by the way when we study backwards there's

[32:20]this theory called the mitochondrial Eve I don't if you've studied this

[32:25]all human beings mitochondria which is the power cell of the human

[32:29]body which gives us the energy to do what we're doing the

[32:34]mitochondria is completely matrilineal in its genetic components we all inherit it

[32:40]from our mothers oh all of us inherited from our mothers so

[32:43]it's very easy to now remove the male specie and just keep

[32:49]the female and you find that they've done studies in mitochondrial Eve

[32:52]that human race all aims towards one woman in Africa now of

[32:55]course they try to debunk it try to crash it they try

[32:59]to make it silly doesn't matter let's ask that question could we

[33:03]have evolved from a set of monkeys due to some mutation then

[33:09]where are these half creature monkeys have humans oh no no you

[33:13]can't ask questions like this see evolution is very protracted long term

[33:17]I said okay I'm ready to listen I got all my life

[33:21]show it to me oh but you it is amazingly we can

[33:25]it's actually just the weight of all I said look I am

[33:29]genetically very different in my set of chromosomes from a name and

[33:31]even with PCR you know you're able to replicate and accelerate movements

[33:36]forward and backwards where is this answer so there's there are too

[33:40]many chunks of voids and you know unanswerable questions science hopefully in

[33:45]the future we'll try to answer more and more but there is

[33:50]clear evidence that even people like Brian Greene Brian Greene is one

[33:54]of the world-renowned cosmologists at Columbia University he said there is clear

[33:59]evidence that as time progresses science will be less viable not more

[34:04]viable because the dark matter the expansion of the universe is going

[34:08]to cause such dark matter that we will be less visible to

[34:12]be able to see science than the way we have today so

[34:14]here's a scientist who's agreeing that as time progresses we will have

[34:19]less knowledge that's interesting previously no science can answer everything no it

[34:24]cannot it's a mechanical system the answering of the question is the

[34:27]ethical question not the mechanical question which is what we're gonna discuss

[34:31]illallah muhammadu one common

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