Dr. S Ammar Nakshawani - Ziyarat Ashura: Source of Disunity? - Night 6

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[2:24]is a source of disunity and division or is it a form

[2:29]of dissociation does it get us closer to or does it take

[2:36]us further away from the true message of the religion of islam

[2:40]is the wording in ziyarat ashura too harsh or is that the

[2:44]wording that is expected from a system of justice against injustice indeed

[2:50]you find that without a doubt the controversy surrounding zi'arat ashura continues

[2:57]to reign until today in different parts of the world when non

[3:01]shia listened to the recital of zi'arat ashura then in some cases

[3:07]they become quite sensitive because some of the personalities that they revere

[3:12]seemingly are insulted or seemingly are cursed within the ziyara we know

[3:18]very well that in virtually every shi'a household in the world there

[3:23]is a copy of ziyara to ashura of course those copies may

[3:27]be electronic now on our telephones rather than for example in a

[3:32]work of the like of sheikh abbas al qummi or the likes

[3:35]of ibn pawus or the likes of sheikh toussi but a person

[3:40]makes use of the technology that they have reality is that a

[3:43]person in a shia household will grow up either listening to ziarat

[3:48]ashura or reciting ziarat ashura either once a week or in some

[3:54]cases every day the likes of for example sheikh mortad al ansari

[3:58]of the scholars of the past and the likes of ayatollah saddiqar

[4:03]rouhani of the scholars of the present recite ziyarah to ashura every

[4:07]single day without fail they don't wait for example for a particular

[4:12]vow or a manna or another to be made on the contrary

[4:15]they find it of the utmost importance that they send their salutations

[4:20]to the prophet peace be upon him and his family every single

[4:23]day and they believe that the greatest ziyara to be recited is

[4:30]ziyara to ashura there are many scholars who will always talk about

[4:33]the fact that when you look at the rewards for reciting ziyara

[4:37]to ashura the rewards in some cases are the highest rewards imaginable

[4:43]and perceivable within shi'a thought when you talk of for example reciting

[4:48]ziyar at ashura is the equivalent of reciting going on one thousand

[4:53]hajj one thousand umrah and attending 1,000 battles with the prophets and

[4:59]the imams of ahlul bayt salawatallahu wa sallamu alaihim it highlights to

[5:03]you the greatness and the significance of the ziyarah because for shiai

[5:07]households we know very well that you'll always have one story or

[5:11]another about how ziyarat ashura helped you in a particular difficult situation

[5:16]you made the pledge to allah that i will recite a salutation

[5:21]part of the mazar literature in honor of imam al hussain and

[5:26]in honor of those who fell on the plains of karbala but

[5:29]you allah i ask you that when i recite this to fulfill

[5:33]my hajjat for example that i have certain hajjat which i really

[5:38]would like fulfilled so you'll find that some people may recite ziarat

[5:41]ashura for forty nights in a row without fail and this is

[5:45]not something random this is something where you'll find that ulama of

[5:50]the past would swear by ulama of the past would discuss ziarat

[5:54]ashura the merits of ziarat ashura one only has to look at

[5:58]the works of tusdarim and the works of the likes of bahrul

[6:01]aloom and others who talk about the greatness of ziarat ashura and

[6:07]that's why the emphasis of the likes of ayatollah shobari zanjania and

[6:11]others on focusing on ziarat ashura and its merits and its reliability

[6:16]can be seen but in some cases you find that there are

[6:21]those who doubt ziarat ashura or there are those who place question

[6:25]marks on ziarat ashura some are from outside of the shiite school

[6:31]and some are within the shiite school from outside of the shi'a

[6:35]school it's understandable if they place a question mark on it at

[6:39]the end of the day when you have a ziyara that is

[6:42]full of the word full of for example dissociating or dua supplicating

[6:49]to god to withdraw his mercy from an individual those schools who

[6:54]revere the likes of abu sufyan or they revere the likes of

[6:57]mawiya or they revere the likes of yazid and there are schools

[7:01]that do there are schools that will say next to their names

[7:04]yazid for example openly for them when they see somebody reciting for

[7:12]them this is virtually blasphemy but this is an insult how dare

[7:16]you for example say that allah yazid this is not something that

[7:23]should be done and so this causes a lot of sensitivity for

[7:26]them it's something completely unacceptable because there are countries in the muslim

[7:30]world if you dare to question a companion or one of the

[7:35]taberain then there is a chance you could be imprisoned if not

[7:39]executed if you would recite words like this you don't normally carry

[7:43]a mafatih when you're going to hajj and umrah because there's a

[7:46]good chance that you won't see your neck again so on the

[7:50]one hand what you have is that you have outside of the

[7:53]school of ahlul bayt those who have a major difference on it

[7:59]of course they are entitled to their framework at the end of

[8:01]the day they have their understanding of certain parts of history and

[8:06]they may completely oppose what's written in ziarat aashura but then you

[8:10]have within the shia those who look at ziarat aashura with question

[8:16]marks seemingly yearning for ziara to be banned if not banned for

[8:23]us to stop reciting ziara to ashura you find that these people

[8:28]may come from different angles from some angles where they may come

[8:32]from they may say that it is not part of the fabric

[8:36]of the religion of islam or part of the way of the

[8:39]religion or the vision of the religion that we use words like

[8:45]like i used in the beginning of this discussion a particular part

[8:49]of which says allah it's a dua of course i ask you

[9:00]to withdraw your mercy from who from the first person to have

[9:06]oppressed the rights of muhammad and al muhammad sallallahu alaihihim when they

[9:14]hear this you find within our school people say i'm not going

[9:17]to do that i will say i will say they'll say all

[9:28]of these lines they will even say for example lines in other

[9:32]ziyarat alongside this one they will accept okay you could say things

[9:35]like they'll say we recite these but they'll say for example when

[9:49]it comes to the la'en no way will we ever recite la'en

[9:53]no they say not only will we not recite it we will

[10:14]not bring up our children reciting it because we have nothing to

[10:18]do with this and then they'll say even if you look at

[10:21]the manuscripts some manuscripts have some of the manuscripts do not have

[10:26]the addition of la'an so they come in some cases from an

[10:29]academic angle others of them may come no from a personal angle

[10:33]you may find for example he has donors for his mosque let's

[10:38]say you have a donor for your mosque who is married to

[10:41]someone who is non shia and you don't want to offend them

[10:44]or you have a multimillionaire who gives you monthly donations and that

[10:48]multimillionaire may be someone who doesn't want anything to be said that

[10:52]may cause disunity between muslims and anything that there is certain doubt

[10:57]in then he doesn't want it to be said you want me

[11:00]to donate to you i'll donate no problem but you don't allow

[11:04]for such things to be said or recited and try work your

[11:08]hardest to block them from our mosques or to block them from

[11:13]our imam bargas then there's another angle another group what do they

[11:17]say they say some of the lines in ziarat ashura forget the

[11:21]line put the line aside they say some of the lines in

[11:24]ziarat ashura don't make any sense whatsoever for example oh allah withdraw

[11:34]your mercy from the whole of bani ummayah they say but bani

[11:37]umayyah had certain good people they say that for example bani umayyah

[11:42]had habiba who was the wife of rasulullah bani umayyah they say

[11:48]had people like omar ibn abdulaziz people like imam the lady who

[11:53]imam ali alaihi salam married after fatima tissaihi salaam died and others

[11:59]who fought with imam ali on the day of saffeen who were

[12:02]from umayyads yes but they fought for imam ali alaihi salam so

[12:07]they say this no way would come from an imam because an

[12:09]imam would not have that misjudgment or error if an imam is

[12:12]masoom he wouldn't say on the whole of bani umayyah and there

[12:17]are exceptions to the rule that there are some people from bani

[12:21]umayyah who don't deserve to be part of that la'ana then there

[12:24]are others within the shiite school who will say my imam would

[12:29]never be the type of person who do la'ana my imam he

[12:32]loves to be peaceful with everyone merciful with everyone loving with everyone

[12:36]my imam would never do laana ahlul bayt would never do laana

[12:41]so all these groups when they come together they all now posit

[12:45]their arguments from the one hand the non shia who have their

[12:49]own framework and look at it insultingly and then on the other

[12:53]hand those within the shia who say that ziarat ashura irrespective of

[12:58]the fact that for over a thousand years scholar after scholar after

[13:02]scholar after scholar has recited ziarat ashura going back to ibn khulaway

[13:06]and going back to the likes of sheikh tawasi all the way

[13:09]until ayatollah sistani and others they say no it does not matter

[13:12]we still have our doubts therefore tonight let's examine this is ziyarat

[13:18]ashura a cause of disunity today or is it a continuation of

[13:24]dissociation does it get us closer to the ahlul bayt or would

[13:28]the ahlul bayt look at us with dismay if we said such

[13:32]words like we say in the ziyarah i'd like to do this

[13:35]in the following stages number one in the quran is allah subhanahu

[13:39]wa ta'ala always about mercy or are there times when god dissociates

[13:44]and asks his prophet to dissociate from those who are oppressors number

[13:51]two ziarat ashura comes from which imam and how was he a

[13:55]witness to what took place on the day of ashura and in

[13:59]sham as well number three for those who have a question mark

[14:02]for example that why are there different manuscripts and editions of ziyarat

[14:07]ashura some with additions some with additions how do we reply to

[14:12]them number four those who say that bani ummayyah not all of

[14:16]them were bad how do we look at the members who supposedly

[14:19]were good and let's see if there is a contradiction or no

[14:22]and what was the person's name who came to imam al baqir

[14:26]said to imam i'm one of bani umayyah but the ziyara does

[14:30]lahana on me as well how did the imam explained to him

[14:33]then after that what is written those who come and say we

[14:37]shouldn't do lahana how does the quran contradict them completely from not

[14:42]only god doing from not only prophets doing but even were ordered

[14:47]to do but is there a time and is there a place

[14:51]and finally how did imam al baqir see the way karbala affected

[14:56]each and every member of the holy family let's examine this and

[15:00]dissect the topic in complete depth you'll always hear people who don't

[15:04]want to recite ziara to ashura especially because of the la'anat will

[15:08]say that my allah is merciful my allah is loving my prophet

[15:14]is merciful my prophet is loving in arabic we can look at

[15:19]this in two ways one we could say it's a truthful word

[15:24]but the intention is devious in which way it is truthful that

[15:29]the lord is merciful the prophet is merciful at the end of

[15:33]the day allah begins every sort of the quran except one he

[15:37]begins do we agree every chapter virtually of the holy quran barring

[15:43]one begins in the name of god the most kind most merciful

[15:46]the most beneficent the most merciful my prophet we did not send

[15:53]you except that you were mercy to the worlds so you are

[15:56]right allah and his prophets are merciful but is it just for

[16:01]them to remain merciful with people causing oppression is it just for

[16:07]them to maintain this supposed mercy with those who have been treating

[16:13]people barbarically if i now see that there are people on the

[16:17]streets of london who have molested young girls emotionally abused women on

[16:23]the streets is it right for me to say well you know

[16:26]what i'll let you off this time but next time don't do

[16:29]that to that young girl someone will say to me say that's

[16:31]not justice justice there has to be a scale that if you're

[16:34]telling me to love truth i have to hate falsehood and if

[16:37]you tell me to love justice i have to hate injustice here

[16:41]you find therefore in the quran allah provides us with a very

[16:46]important concept a 113 chapters i begun with mercy except one and

[16:53]that one i'm gonna name after a principle of religion how many

[16:58]of us have heard of the principle known as tabara all of

[17:03]these what do they mean in english dissociation a whole chapter of

[17:08]the quran is called dissociation when a person does they are performing

[17:17]a whole chapter of the quran begins without bismillah imagine how great

[17:24]is the bismillah for allah to highlight that my mercy encompasses everything

[17:32]except when people have been oppressive and unjust chapter nine of the

[17:38]holy quran begins there is a dissociation by allah and his prophet

[17:51]from those who you have made a covenant with of the polytheist

[17:55]wait you allah you are merciful why would you begin a chapter

[17:58]without your loving mercy you allah i thought this world is about

[18:03]love and peace and mercy and islam is about love and peace

[18:06]and mercy when those people have attacked an innocent group of muslims

[18:12]and butchered them the way the banu bakr of the quraysh attacked

[18:16]the khuza'a allah swt straight away said tabara has to be done

[18:22]now complete dissociation from these people because you know the hudaybiyah treaty

[18:28]it said there will be ten years of peace between the people

[18:31]of medina the muslims and the people of the quraysh and that

[18:35]the muslims will not cause bloodshed with the polytheists and the polytheists

[18:39]will not cause bloodshed with the muslims when you sign that treaty

[18:43]my prophet has signed it with you even though he could have

[18:45]easily finished you he done it out of his mercy therefore when

[18:49]he's done it out of his mercy he doesn't expect you to

[18:51]ambush his muslims one night and mercilessly kill their men and their

[18:57]women and their children without anyone to protect them when god revealed

[19:02]that chapter you know that chapter is probably the harshest chapter in

[19:05]the quran as in when fox news wants to go after islam

[19:08]being the religion of the sword that's the chapter they look at

[19:11]they don't look at many other chapters except chapter number nine why

[19:14]because chapter number nine had a particular point to be made religion

[19:19]part of it is love part of it is hate someone says

[19:23]what love and hate to love justice and to hate injustice to

[19:30]love truth and to have a hate for falsehood when god begins

[19:35]a chapter of the quran with bara'ah it was to reply back

[19:40]to those who would say that we shouldn't publicly dissociate even from

[19:45]a baalim like yazid or like abu sufyan or like shimr or

[19:51]like omar bin saad wait allah in the quran begin a chapter

[19:55]without rahman or raheem every other chapter of the quran i begin

[20:00]with my mercy except number nine number nine is the chapter which

[20:05]refers to tabara tabara is what tabara from baraat is when i

[20:10]dissociate myself from the actions of so and so i never ever

[20:17]want to be associated with such people when i talk about people

[20:20]for example like myra hindli or you talk about people if you

[20:24]name other famous criminals who have butchered people butchered children hurt people

[20:30]you find these dictators that have existed why do we dissociate from

[20:34]them why do we want nothing to do with them someone might

[20:36]say but you are a muslim you have to be peaceful you

[20:38]have to be merciful you have to be loving i cannot be

[20:41]merciful with someone who's been oppressive to everybody around me who's been

[20:46]unjust to everybody likewise this chapter when it was revealed it began

[20:50]dissociation by allah and his prophet from who from those who made

[20:56]a covenant with of the polytheists a few verses later says of

[21:00]course those who have from the polytheists who have not done anything

[21:03]wrong you don't need to touch them they've not done anything wrong

[21:05]they don't even accept and please follow me on this point they

[21:08]don't accept the crimes of people from their own family or from

[21:13]their own tribe i could be from the same tribe as somebody

[21:17]but i don't accept what they've done that's different from someone who

[21:21]smiles when they see what's been taking place the quran says those

[21:25]who haven't broken the covenant leave them alone but those who have

[21:30]when you see them you know what you should do to them

[21:33]because if a person comes and tells me you know my quran

[21:35]it's full of peace islam is peace so you explain to me

[21:38]chapter nine verse number five when the holy months have passed killed

[21:41]the polytheists wherever you see them killed the polytheists wherever you see

[21:45]them is peace islam when it was merciful it was merciful to

[21:49]those who deserved mercy and forgiveness but those who went round and

[21:53]killed innocent children chained up children whipped woman in the streets threw

[21:59]stones at people beheaded people who were innocent human beings islam said

[22:05]that you have to have a barometer of justice therefore for us

[22:08]what is the tabara that's the base of ziyarat ashura ziyarat ashura

[22:12]is what it's a symbol that religion is no more than tawala

[22:16]and tabaraah love for allah and those who allah chose dissociation and

[22:22]hate from those who are the symbols of injustice if a person

[22:26]comes and tells me i don't read such a ziyara because my

[22:30]lord would never want me to do such a thing then why

[22:32]would your lord want you to start a surah without bismillahar rahmanir

[22:34]raheem why doesn't allah want us to talk of rahma he himself

[22:39]ensured that a chapter of the holy quran does not have bismillah

[22:44]at the beginning because there has to be a moment where you

[22:48]stand up and you're not a bystander have you heard the concept

[22:50]of the bystander what's a bystander i see a lady in the

[22:54]street someone's robbed her and i just walk away as if nothing's

[22:57]happened i see someone getting bullied and i just turn a blind

[23:00]eye i have to have within me a certain energy of standing

[23:04]against oppression of always feeling that injustice is wrong in the right

[23:10]way in the right context in the right place therefore for us

[23:13]the basis of ziyarat ashura is what it's seen in the quran

[23:18]the same way allah subhanahu wa ta'ala the majority of our discussions

[23:21]you look at dua kumail mercy dua yastashir mercy dua abu hamza

[23:26]tamalee mercy dua arafa mercy even ziyarat mazar literature such as ziyarat

[23:32]al jami al kabir a lot of it is rahma but there

[23:36]also has to be a somewhere you cannot have 100 of these

[23:42]ziyarat let's say we have 113 ziyarat what's wrong with having one

[23:45]which is like surah al tawbah what's wrong what's wrong with having

[23:49]one which is like surah al what like surah al baraah that's

[23:52]what ziyarat aashura is a reflection of the order of the quran

[23:56]within our ziyarat literature a 113 chapters of the quran with rahma

[24:00]one is dissociation many ziyarat rahma one is clear dissociation who gave

[24:06]us ziyarat a ashura we can look at it from two angles

[24:09]the main person who gave us yahrat ashura is who imam al

[24:12]baqar alaihi salaam imam al baqar as we know was where he

[24:15]was at karbala at kufa at sham and nobody therefore can tell

[24:21]us how to talk to imam al hussain alaihi salaam or show

[24:26]our love and our empathy like the grandson of imam al hussain

[24:30]alaihi salaam do you know how many muslims in the world haven't

[24:33]got a clue who imam al baqir is there are millions who

[24:36]don't know who's imam al baqir they haven't got the foggiest who

[24:39]imam al baqar is imam al baqar was three and a half

[24:43]years of age at karbala we always cry about the three and

[24:47]a half year old daughter of imam al hussain how many people

[24:50]forget imam al baqar imam al baqar had to live to see

[24:54]and to come out of it the trauma how did imam al

[24:58]baqar come out of seeing what he saw imam al baqar we

[25:01]have narrations from him about what took place at karbala some of

[25:05]those narrations are within ziarat ashura where he gives us an understanding

[25:09]what took place some of it is outside of ziarat ashura and

[25:11]makkati literature for example imam al baqar says when my father came

[25:15]back from burying the six month old baby when my grandfather came

[25:19]back from burying the six month old baby he held his beard

[25:22]he looked towards the skies and he said allah was angry with

[25:25]the jewish community when they made uzair his son and he was

[25:29]angry with the christians when they done the trinity and he will

[25:32]be angry with those who kill the son of the daughter of

[25:36]his prophet but i will meet my lord with this spear drenched

[25:40]in blood and die the death of the prophets of allah swt

[25:43]who gave us that imam al baqar alaihi salam likewise in sham

[25:48]on a night like this imam al baqar alaihi salaam when yazid

[25:52]was about to take one of the daughters of imam al hussain

[25:56]they were about to take her as a slave it was imam

[25:58]al baqar alaihi salaam all of a sudden said yazid when pharaoh

[26:02]asked his people what should we do with the children of israel

[26:05]they said leave them whereas you do that to the grandchildren of

[26:08]muhammad imam al bakar therefore was at karbala imam al bakar saw

[26:13]kufa imam al bakar on a day like this was in sham

[26:17]witnessing everything therefore many people knowing that imam al baqar alaihis salam

[26:22]was at karbala would come to him mawlah how do we talk

[26:25]to abba abdullah how many of us wish we were in karbala

[26:28]on nights like this there are many of you who come with

[26:31]us when we go on spiritual journeys on a night like this

[26:35]we would be having our majalis next door to abba abdullah and

[26:38]next door to abel fad alas we couldn't go there are many

[26:42]of you who are watching this i know your heart bleeds you

[26:45]wish that you could see the dome of abbas and hussain alaihi

[26:48]wasallam but alas you can't and do you know how many shia

[26:53]in the past wished that they could get to karbala but they

[26:56]couldn't so they would come to the imam of them for example

[27:00]al qama safwan others they would come and they would come to

[27:03]the imam they say maulah how do we send our salaams to

[27:07]abba abdullah if we're far away from abba abdullah and the imam

[27:11]would reply by the narration that we have zia'ra ta ashura and

[27:16]the way that we recite it the imam would give it to

[27:19]his companions and his companions would pass it from one generation to

[27:23]another because one may look at five different chains for zi'arah to

[27:27]ashura and when they look at those five different chains of course

[27:30]there is no denying that amongst those chains there may be narrators

[27:34]who are not known or some might be known for their weaknesses

[27:37]but all in all when you bring all of these chains together

[27:40]you find that the likes of shaykh tawsey when he gives us

[27:43]for example masbah al mutahajjid masbah al kabir masbah al sadeer when

[27:48]he provides us with these he has scrupulously looked at where he

[27:52]has received the ziyara from likewise ibn qulaway within the kamil ziyaraj

[27:58]when they therefore teach their companions this they would teach them that

[28:03]this is what is to be said send your salaams to abba

[28:07]abdullah remember for example what happened to the holy household remember those

[28:13]who had oppressed the holy household make a pledge that you are

[28:17]at peace with those who they are at peace with at war

[28:19]with those who they are at war with make a pledge to

[28:23]the imam of your time that you're going to be with him

[28:26]and that you're going to stand with him and that you're going

[28:28]to be alongside him so he would provide all those contents would

[28:32]come from where from imam al baqar alaihi salaam imam al saddiq

[28:35]alaihis salam when talking about ziyarat aashwara said i received this from

[28:42]my father who got it from his father who got it from

[28:46]his father who got it from imam al hassan who got it

[28:50]from imam ali who got it from rasulullah who received it from

[28:56]jibrael who received it from allah according to some ziara to ashura

[29:02]is a hadith qudsi it is a ziara that has come from

[29:06]allah someone says wait how can you have a ziara about what's

[29:10]happening at ashura with rasulallah and rasulallah was not at ashura but

[29:15]rasulallah knew what would happen at ashura rasulallah would give the sand

[29:19]to the clay the earth of karbala and say when it turns

[29:23]into blood then know that my grandson has been killed jibrail could

[29:27]not communicate to rasulullah about what's gonna happen in the future rasulullah

[29:30]for goodness sake tells us about what are the signs of the

[29:33]day of judgment he then doesn't know what's gonna happen fifty years

[29:36]after he dies but he can tell you the signs of what's

[29:38]gonna happen just before qiyama at the end of the day rasulullah

[29:41]allah if he decides he gives him some knowledge of the unseen

[29:47]and he gives him of what will take place on the plains

[29:49]of karbala so for us imam al baqar alaihis salam is the

[29:53]one who gave us ziyarat ashura when i go to for example

[30:13]of sheikh tawzi because you know we have mazar literature what is

[30:17]mazar literature you know how you have maffati maffati al jainan so

[30:21]it's got all the duas and the ziarats and what you do

[30:23]we've had these since the khaybah of the imam we've had for

[30:28]example the likes of kef ami the likes of tusi the likes

[30:32]of ibn tawus the likes of sheikh abbas al qummi they might

[30:36]collect for example all of our ziyarat literature someone says when i

[30:41]see for example ziyarat ashura sometimes i see ziyarat ashura and i

[30:47]see that one manuscript of ziyarat ashura has the lahanat and the

[30:52]other may not have the lahanat why is this the case reality

[30:56]is you'll find that even ibn tawus in masbah hazar says that

[31:01]i took this version of zi'ar at ashura from masbah al kabir

[31:06]of sheikh tusi however the 100 i found it in of sheikh

[31:13]tusi so sometimes what you have is that in certain collections of

[31:17]the books the is there where it says for example o allah

[31:23]withdraw your mercy from this person that person this person that person

[31:26]yazid and so on in others it may not be there someone

[31:30]says the fact that there's a contradiction that in one it's there

[31:34]in the other it's not that means we shouldn't take ziyarat ashura

[31:37]at all why shouldn't we take it the fact that it may

[31:41]not be in one version and may be there in another could

[31:43]easily be put down to taqiyyah tostari and bahrul alom both say

[31:48]sheikh tusi may allah bless his soul when he is writing for

[31:52]example let's say when he is writing it it may be at

[31:57]a time that if you put in certain ziyara literature the government

[32:02]of the time are going to come and ask who's this about

[32:05]what you're going to do as a shi'a at that time they're

[32:08]going to come and behead you isn't it as in when we

[32:10]read for example certain lahaina insi'ar at ashura someone might come and

[32:15]say to me where are these names if i give these names

[32:18]i'll be beheaded straight away in any generation let alone in sheikh

[32:22]hattusa's generation where they weren't worried to burn his whole library of

[32:26]literature of the shia so therefore if someone comes and tells me

[32:29]i see different versions of the manuscripts i turn around and say

[32:32]hold on a person can easily put this down to the simulation

[32:36]that you may have some version that doesn't have the section on

[32:41]the latin that many of us may recite and the complete version

[32:44]that we have today then someone turns around and says wait i

[32:49]have an issue with certain parts of the ziyarah say what do

[32:52]you mean because there's only been a couple of people who put

[32:55]these doubts by the way if you want to go and read

[32:57]the likes of for example subhani and shubairiz and jani and you

[33:01]want to read the works of for example others you'll find that

[33:04]they make it clear about how authentic ziyat ashra is but you

[33:07]always have people who pop up and they might say that you

[33:10]know what i don't believe that we should recite this what's their

[33:13]first reason they say look imam if he really wrote this you

[33:18]say that imam wrote this then if imam really wrote this and

[33:21]he says allah oh allah withdraw your rahma from the whole of

[33:27]bani ummayah this is not my imam i said why is it

[33:29]not your imam for what reason he says because my imam knows

[33:33]that in bani umayyah there are good people so when you say

[33:39]you've read it on your powerpoints or on your translations i'm sure

[33:41]on your phones when you say o allah and you say sometimes

[33:44]it says curse even it says o allah curse although a dua

[33:48]in reality is a dua o allah withdraw your mercy from the

[33:53]whole of bani umayyah said my imam would never do that why

[33:56]because there were some good people in bani umayyah who who's the

[33:59]good people in baniomaya let's see says habiba the wife of rasoolallah

[34:05]sister of muawiyah daughter of abu sufyan she's one of the good

[34:11]people and they say that we like her who said we like

[34:14]her said ahna the wives of rasulallah our condition for the way

[34:20]that we respect them is did they respect the prophet peace be

[34:24]upon him and his family if they go to war against rasulallah

[34:29]sallallahu alaihi wa'alehi or go to war against his family the way

[34:32]the wife of noor and the wife of lut fought their prophets

[34:38]nabi noor prophet of god his wife what is she disbeliever nabiloth

[34:44]prophet of god what is she what's his wife disbeliever a person

[34:49]says a wife of rasulallah sallallahu alaihi wa'ala no i respect her

[34:53]as long as she doesn't fight the prophet or his family if

[34:57]she fights imam alaihi alaihi wa sallam straight away for me that's

[35:00]an x loving ali is faith hatred of ali is hypocrisy this

[35:06]habiba she sided with who with uthman ibn affan that was her

[35:13]ideology she is the one who made sure his shirt reached muawiyah

[35:17]her brother but you know brother you have to look after your

[35:20]brother you have to remain loyal to your brother habiba was loyal

[35:23]to muawiyah and if i'm not mistaken was even happy when muhammad

[35:27]the son of abu bakr was killed by muawiyah's henchmen to me

[35:31]therefore when you tell me habiba we like when did we in

[35:34]our shia literature like habiba i'm not forced to like every wife

[35:39]of rasulullah someone says but the quran says and that the wives

[35:47]of the prophet are what are your mothers yeah of course they're

[35:52]like my mother fiqh wise you cannot marry them after rasulullah has

[35:58]married them because they are like your mother can you marry your

[36:01]mom no you can't likewise if they're the mothers of the believers

[36:04]you can't marry them that is a fiqh ruling you trying to

[36:08]tell me that the wives of rasulallah i have to admire them

[36:11]because the quran surah 33 verse number six tells me the prophet

[36:15]has a greater right of what authority than you have over yourselves

[36:17]and his wives are like your mothers yes that means that after

[36:21]he dies no one in the muslims can marry them because they

[36:24]are like their moms fiqh wise you can't marry your mom biologically

[36:29]likewise you cannot do that otherwise you forcing me to love the

[36:34]wife of a prophet why would allah tell me in the quran

[36:36]that the wife of nuh is in hell and the wife of

[36:39]lut is in hell they are wives of prophets why would god

[36:43]tell me so therefore to tell me that habiba the sister of

[36:47]muhawiyah the daughter of musafian she is a good she may be

[36:51]good for other schools in islam for shia no ex then he

[36:54]says to me omar ibn abdul aziz says omar ibn abdul aziz

[36:59]has a couple of merits that no doubt are his merits he

[37:02]stopped the cursing and i'll come to him inshaallah in the coming

[37:05]nights the cursing of imam ali alaihi salam he gave fadak back

[37:08]to who back to imam al baqir alaihi salam but we have

[37:12]our tradition the people of the earth praise him and the people

[37:16]of the heavens curse him if umar bin abdulaziz truly is just

[37:20]he'd give the leadership to imam al baqar and walk away someone

[37:24]says to me for example someone like saad the son of abdul

[37:28]malik yes saad the son of abdul malik he went to who

[37:33]he went to imam al baqir imam akhir saw him crying he

[37:35]said saad why do you cry he said imam because you do

[37:39]lahat on me i said what do you mean he said allahumma

[37:42]allah the whole of bani ummayah i'm bani ummayah but i love

[37:47]you imam refers him back to nabi ibrahim alaihis salam and he

[37:56]says to him o saad ibrahim says whoever follows me then he

[38:03]is one of us you are the one who is what who

[38:08]is the pure one of bani ummayah for you follow us that

[38:14]refers to what how many times have you heard this line they

[38:21]heard what happened at kirbanan they were so happy pleased accepting of

[38:25]it those people if they're from bani ummayah then that applies to

[38:30]them however you are saad al khair you're not saad bin abdul

[38:34]malik you may come from that family but you at the end

[38:38]of the day are someone who follows me you don't follow them

[38:41]therefore if you follow me how could this line apply to you

[38:44]this line only applies to those who follow what they had ordered

[38:49]or follows their principles so if you have someone like muawiyah the

[38:53]son of yazid yazid had a son called muawiyah who was against

[38:55]his father then that person even if he's from bani ummayah if

[38:58]he cries for masa and is sad that what happened in karabella

[39:03]then there is no harm whatsoever that doesn't apply to them then

[39:06]someone says sayyidna my imam would not do laanat oh well your

[39:11]lord did it until when you say to me my imam would

[39:17]not do lahaana allah subhanahu wa ta'ala in the quran is doing

[39:21]lahaana every second third page when allah does lahaana in the quran

[39:27]and all of a sudden you don't talk about islam peace peace

[39:30]peace you stay quiet when allah does laana where does allah do

[39:34]laana in quran many times i'm sure you've come across the verses

[39:38]surah 33 for example verse 56 to 57 allah gives us a

[39:43]very clear criteria those who hurt allah and his prophet allah withdraws

[39:53]his mercy on them in this world and the hereafter where is

[39:58]your allah peaceful mercy aslan on the contrary this is mercy because

[40:03]you get rid of the rubbish that used to oppress al muhammad

[40:09]you look at it and you see allah in the quran saying

[40:12]so you have one group then you have another time in the

[40:21]quran in the verse about whoever disputes with you when knowledge has

[40:44]come to them saying we bring our sons you bring your sons

[40:48]we bring our woman you bring your woman we bring ourselves you

[40:50]bring yourselves and we will ask allah to withdraw his mercy from

[40:55]the liars again the other one what did we have is a

[41:08]part of me whoever angers her angers me the quran says whoever

[41:11]hurts allah and his prophet the prophet saying you hurt me is

[41:14]through hurting fatima you hurt me is through hurting ali hassan hussain

[41:21]hurting them is hurting me whoever therefore hurts them receives allah subhanahu

[41:25]wa ta'ala's laana someone says what's the meaning of that laana one

[41:28]group say withdrawal of mercy another says banishment i can go into

[41:32]that discussion in different ways someone says okay wait wait wait allah's

[41:36]is informing us it's not telling us to do so when someone

[41:43]hurts the message of rasulullah allah is informing us is on them

[41:48]he's never said you shia are going to laanat so we say

[41:54]wait the prophets of allah did laanat or no because if it's

[41:59]only allah informing us of lahana let's see if the prophet surah

[42:02]five verse 78 has been done on the disbelievers from the children

[42:14]of israel on the tongue of prophet david and prophet jesus that

[42:20]means prophet dawud and prophet isa used to do then we have

[42:31]rasulullah every school in islam agrees that rasulullah used to do lahanat

[42:37]a dua asking allah to withdraw his mercy from individuals every school

[42:42]did not rasulullah say will be on those who are drinking selling

[42:46]drink purchasing drink buying drinks on did not rasoolallah do on those

[42:51]who engaged in riba interest did not rasoolallah say on those who

[42:55]don't join the army of usama the 18 year old so did

[42:59]rasool allah say the word laana did he do laana i ask

[43:03]you yes then someone says okay rasool allah did it but maybe

[43:07]he doesn't maybe the imams never did laana someone says maybe the

[43:12]imams didn't do laana i remember ibn tawus muhaj al daawat ibn

[43:19]tawus has a book called muhaj al daawat in there he has

[43:24]a hadith from imam raba alaihi wasalam doing laana in sujood and

[43:30]for those of you who want chains these are strong chains this

[43:33]one imam raba in sujood doing laana oh allah he says laana

[43:40]on those who changed your religion and who changed your blessings against

[43:46]your prophet peace be upon him and his family imam ravah alaihi

[43:50]salam in sujood doing laana on those who change the religion of

[43:57]allah after rasulallah sallallahu alaihi wa'alehi died because i won't be around

[44:02]the bush i know many shia when people ask them you shia

[44:05]do laana yes we do laana yes we do we have our

[44:09]narrative you have your narrative at the end of the day if

[44:12]your narrative you don't want to do lana don't do it but

[44:15]we shia have our narrative we're a 400 years old you're a

[44:18]400 years old you're a stream to rasoolallah we're a stream to

[44:22]rasoolallah do we do lana yes we do do lana and it's

[44:26]enough now shia stop befriending or beating around the bush just be

[44:31]open just say that yes we do do lana but we can

[44:35]appreciate that you have your narrative we're not gonna come in your

[44:38]face and do but if you're gonna ask me do i do

[44:41]on those who fought ahlul bayt or angered ahlul bayt i do

[44:45]it day and night proudly and i take it as a sunnah

[44:49]of my imams my imams would do then someone says okay allah

[44:54]will understand the prophet i understand imams i understand does allah really

[44:57]want me to do then allah tells me follow them and in

[45:02]the quran allah says who are the those who conceal what we

[45:15]have revealed after we had revealed it to the people in the

[45:19]book allah withdraws his mercy from them and there's a group who

[45:23]have to do laana as well so we therefore when we hear

[45:27]of those who hurt allah and his prophet how would you hurt

[45:31]allah and his prophet it's by massacring the family of that prophet

[45:35]isn't it when he says to you hussain is from me and

[45:38]i am from hussain allah loves the one who loves hussain allah

[45:43]loves the one who loves hussain so the one who hates hussain

[45:46]what does allah do the one who beheaded hussain what does allah

[45:51]do so what am i doing in ziyarat ashura i am reaffirming

[45:55]my stance the way quran reaffirmed the stance of baraah from the

[46:00]mushriqs of quraish who butchered innocent muslims i am reaffirming that dissociation

[46:07]from the same quraish mushriqs who came back fifty years later and

[46:16]those quraish mushriqs was against who the same rubbish their grandsons came

[46:20]back they came back fifty years later the same way allah said

[46:25]likewise i do tabara from the grandchildren of those same people who

[46:31]surat at tawbah was revealed about that's it simple as you going

[46:38]around in circles my imam would not do it give me a

[46:41]break otherwise there's no stand against injustice against terror against tyranny there

[46:47]has to be that stand when i say allah because yazid is

[46:52]not yazid is a person who comes fifty years after rasul died

[46:57]the first to have done what taken the rights of al muhammad

[47:01]i ask every day that allah withdraws his rahmah from that person

[47:06]who was the first to take from the rights of muhammad and

[47:09]al muhammad and i'm sure all muslims agree with me i hear

[47:11]muslims say doesn't it don't they say that that on the enemies

[47:17]of ahlul bayt let's have that as the criteria on every enemy

[47:21]of ahlul bayt the ones who fought them the ones whose families

[47:25]fought them on them and the ones who are loyal to ahlul

[47:29]bayt we remain loyal therefore for us do we need to apologize

[47:34]about ziyarat ashura not at all we should be very proud of

[47:37]it it's the reflection of surat bara and the quran do we

[47:41]need to backtrack on ziyarat ashura not at all i respect sheikh

[47:45]hattusa ibn khulaway sheikh mortad al ansari al riyadh tushtari and bahrul

[47:53]aloom and ibn tawus and all of them one by one i

[47:56]respect whether it's shuberis and jahani sadda krahani enough for me when

[48:00]they all discuss and authenticate i don't need to have a headache

[48:04]on these areas because the even if a person goes to even

[48:09]if a person goes towards looking at the the lines in ziyat

[48:13]ashura can be found either in quran or in hadith not something

[48:16]unusual i can find you them in a hadith can find you

[48:18]them in other ziyarat which people will say these are authentic but

[48:22]when it comes to these areas they start backtracking on them and

[48:27]that's why for us when we do la'ana on shimr bin al

[48:30]jawshan why would i do la'ana on shimr because i knew that

[48:33]he had slapped the granddaughters of rasoolallah when i do la'ana on

[48:39]for example ibn ziyad why do i do it he would pull

[48:42]the chain from the neck of the grandson of rasulullah why do

[48:48]i do on yazid because yazid would poke the teeth of imam

[48:53]al hussain poke the teeth the teeth the white teeth of imam

[48:58]al hussain that rasoolallah used to smile when he would see therefore

[49:03]when i ask allah to withdraw his mercy from them i ask

[49:07]with a particular perspective that these were the ones who oppressed al

[49:12]muhammad the same quraysh who had butchered muslims when bara'a came down

[49:17]were the same quraysh who now were at the helm and who

[49:21]took zayn al ibad through the streets of sham in one narration

[49:26]do you know what it says they would pour boiling hot water

[49:29]on the head of imam zayn al abideen can you imagine the

[49:33]young imam al baqar how he felt one minute seeing his father

[49:37]with chains around his neck another seeing people kicking his father another

[49:42]moment seeing people pouring boiling hot water on his father always this

[49:47]would come back to imam il bakr years after karbala there would

[49:52]be moments he would see his father alone and the tears would

[49:55]trickle down from his eyes remembering the atrocities and the oppression that

[50:00]took place against al muhammad and that's why he narrates on the

[50:07]night that the poison had spread all over the body of imam

[50:11]zain al abideen alaihi salam he narrates that i came towards the

[50:18]body of my father when i came near him i hugged my

[50:24]father on his chest the moment i hugged him i saw him

[50:29]crying away like i've never seen him cry before remember imam zain

[50:34]abdin died thirty four years after karbala but imam al bakr says

[50:39]when he was dying and the moment i hugged him on his

[50:42]chest i saw him cry in a way like i've never seen

[50:44]him cry before so i looked at my father and i said

[50:48]to him father why do you cry when in a moment you'll

[50:52]see rasulullah in a moment you'll fatima tazara in a moment you'll

[50:58]see imam amir al mumineen in a moment you'll see imam al

[51:01]hassan in a moment you'll see sayyid ashuhada you'll see imam al

[51:08]hussain alaihi salam father why do you cry when i hug you

[51:13]on your chest said to me my son muhammad muhammad muhammad i

[51:21]cry because when i'm dying you're on my chest whereas you know

[51:28]who sat on the chest of my father when he lay on

[51:33]the ground on the plains of karabbalah i ask you imagine how

[51:37]difficult it was for imam zain al abideen seeing on one side

[51:43]and on the other and putting their head on the spear imam

[51:51]al makan says we came to wash the body of my father

[51:56]anyone who washes the body of their father is the most difficult

[51:59]moment for them but for something broke him he said we came

[52:05]to wash the body of my father i saw two marks on

[52:12]the body of my father one of them i knew about the

[52:16]other one hurt me as for the one that i knew about

[52:20]it was the marks of bruising on the back of my father

[52:24]that was the food that imam zain al abideen used to carry

[52:27]in the middle of the night he would go in the streets

[52:29]and he would give food to the poor of medina it used

[52:33]to bruise his back the how heavy the bag was of food

[52:37]he said however the other mark the other mark the other mark

[52:43]when i saw it it broke me what was the other mark

[52:47]all of the lovers of know the other mark i'll leave this

[52:51]with you now he said on his neck i saw the marks

[52:56]of the chains the marks of the chains of sham i saw

[53:01]them on his neck the bruising was clear for all of us

[53:07]to see it broke me when i had to bury my father

[53:11]looking at those marks take your heart to genital bakir on a

[53:17]night like this my dear brothers and sisters remember the and remember

[53:30]the torture that they went through and the love they had for

[53:33]imam al hussain my dear brothers and sisters we've asked allah subhanahu

[54:11]wa ta'ala to raise us with the imam of our time imam

[54:15]sahib al asru azaman allow us to receive the intercession of imam

[54:18]al baqir and imam asada allow us to hold on to ziyarat

[54:23]ashura to protect ziyarat ashura to have the blessings and the miracles

[54:28]associated with ziyarat ashura let's remember all those who are feeling unwell

[54:32]on a night like this all of us together we pray to

[55:08]allah subhanahu wa ta'ala for the of the originators of this majlis

[55:12]inshaallah this majlis will continue until the day of arab a'in where

[55:17]we will have the of the arab a'in and have the of

[55:22]the arab a'in of imam al hussain inshaallah will continue until thursday

[55:27]we pray to allah subhanahu wa ta'ala the surah and welcome our

[55:30]respected

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