Debunking Misconceptions Session 4 - Sayed Saleh Qazwini

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[0:09]we are in the fourth session of debunking misconceptions on Shia Islam

[0:17]and we've been slowly building and building the foundations of shm and

[0:27]negating some of the misconceptions that people have so in the first

[0:33]session we talked about the origins of shm and this will especially

[0:38]for those people who come and say where did shm come from

[0:41]it's a sect and it's something they come and they try to

[0:46]make it look like it's something far and very different from Islam

[0:49]and the message of and we see that it is deeply rooted

[0:55]in the Quran and deeply rooted in the Sunnah of then we

[0:59]went on in the next session we talked about who the are

[1:04]and there's misconceptions regarding this today some people they come and they

[1:08]add the wives of the Prophet they add other people in the

[1:10]definition of b and who are and what is the the definition

[1:17]ofb when we say the the purified household of and we come

[1:23]to understand that this is talking about a specific group of people

[1:27]they are the the family of the prophet imin and the IMs

[1:36]of the this they fall under this category because of which we

[1:40]explained that they will continue until the day of judgment they don't

[1:44]separate from the Quran and then in the third session we talked

[1:47]about the misconception that sh are against the sahabah of the prophet

[1:53]and they have problems with the sahaba of the Prophet or they

[1:56]don't like the sahaba and this is wrong the sahaba they are

[1:59]good but there are some people that we have some uh basically

[2:06]you have to come and look at people's history and look at

[2:10]their past and we can't come and just give a blanket statement

[2:13]they're all good or they're all bad no there there were some

[2:16]who were and there were some who were as the Quran describes

[2:21]and I wanted to add on um add on to to that

[2:28]point of the sahaba and then we we will move on to

[2:33]to a different topic inshallah and that is that some people come

[2:36]and say what about the narrations for example the narration of Abu

[2:41]Bakr in the cave of with the prophet or Allah praising or

[2:49]specific narrations regarding some of the of In Praise of them because

[2:59]today when a Sunni person Sunni person that has not really read

[3:02]or they've just heard what they've heard from their J prayer from

[3:06]their when you come and you tell them that you have to

[3:11]follow the and not the sahab they'll come and they'll tell you

[3:13]why what's wrong with the sahabah these are good thing these are

[3:18]a lot of good things that are said about the sahab these

[3:20]are a lot of Hadith narrations that you could hear praising Abu

[3:25]Bak praising Omar praising praising mua praising praising others so why do

[3:29]you Shia not follow them and the reply is twofolds one is

[3:37]that when when it comes to any Hadith we have to see

[3:40]the validity of that Hadith am I supposed to just accept any

[3:47]Hadith that I hear no I have to come and see the

[3:48]authenticity and the validity of the Hadith if I just come and

[3:56]tell you such and such without having a chain that is actually

[3:58]leading me to then this word is nothing this Hadith does not

[4:01]mean anything it has to have an authentic chain going back to

[4:09]and he says there are going to be many people that are

[4:17]going to fabricate narrations and attribute them toam so and we know

[4:26]that this is something that definitely happened this was something that definitely

[4:33]did happen where narrations were added and they were fabricated especially when

[4:39]we know that there was an agenda against the there was an

[4:44]agenda of establishing the power of a group of people and removing

[4:46]a group of people and this is very clear when you read

[4:50]the history of Islam you see that there were attempts at pushing

[4:52]the bit uh the bit were marginalized and then for example once

[4:59]muawiya comes to power the battle of sa and for 80 years

[5:02]Bena ruled and they would mua used to pay people to curse

[5:08]IM Ali and he used to pay people to go out and

[5:13]I have one thank you he would go out to go out

[5:18]and um say something against the so we know that this is

[5:20]a fact so now every Hadith that I see I have to

[5:26]go and see the validity of this Hadith so this is one

[5:28]this is we're not even getting in the the the details regarding

[5:35]this Hadith for example the Hadith of the 10 who are guaranteed

[5:38]Paradise now this is with you know put aside the fact that

[5:44]there are several problems in this Hadith by itself just for example

[5:48]this Hadith it is narrated by one of the 10 now we

[5:55]have a rule in in the in the lessons of Hadith in

[6:02]the study ofi and that rule is that and this is a

[6:04]common sense rule if someone comes and Praises themselves in front of

[6:10]you and they say for example I come to you and I

[6:12]say one day he told me you're the best Muslim out of

[6:16]all the sah you're the best person do I accept that Hadith

[6:21]no if someone else came and said that for example told me

[6:24]that fan is the best Muslim then I could narrate that but

[6:29]if he's telling me I am the best Muslim or I'm included

[6:31]in that group of people who are guaranteed Paradise then this Hadith

[6:35]cannot be accepted because you're praising yourself and one of those in

[6:40]the Hadith that says the 10 who are guaranteed Paradise one of

[6:45]them his name is SB Z he's one of the 10 he's

[6:47]narrating the Hadith so how could you accept that Hadith this is

[6:52]number one and second one if this Hadith was a very known

[7:00]very authentic Hadith then you would have heard everyone narrating this Hadith

[7:04]it would have been something that was very acceptable wide widely spread

[7:09]and widely acceptable amongst the Muslim amongst the Muslims and the sah

[7:13]and you don't see it you only see it's meaning one person

[7:15]heard it whenever you hear one chain of a Hadith then you

[7:21]put a question mark on it because you have to verify the

[7:23]validity and the honesty of the all of the people in the

[7:28]chain to accept the Hadith now if you see Hadith that has

[7:30]multiple people I heard this Hadith from this person and that person

[7:33]and the third fourth fifth they're all saying the same Hadith then

[7:40]you would accept it and so this is this is another point

[7:43]a third point is that would not guarantee someone Paradise unless this

[7:51]person is M because maybe this person after after Praises this person

[7:56]but then tomorrow this person might do something wrong so it goes

[8:01]against the and here another another if it was widely widely mentioned

[8:08]for example the Hadith of the 10 who are guaranteed Paradise one

[8:12]of them isman what happened toan in the end of his life

[8:18]he was killed by who the Muslims some of them were sahab

[8:24]of the Prophet they put a Siege on his house and they

[8:26]they they basically they put a Siege on his house and they

[8:31]killed him so if if it was known amongst the Muslims thatman

[8:35]is guaranteed Paradise do you think they would have done that they

[8:41]wouldn't have done that so here and especially knowing that there are

[8:45]sahaba there were sahaba who who who came and now say someone

[8:48]could come and say okay they did this the same thing with

[8:52]IM Hussein he's guaranteed paradise and there were Muslims that came and

[8:55]killed him but none none of those people who killed IM Hussein

[8:57]were from the sah of Al so these are um the refute

[9:05]this is the refute with um when when someone comes and tells

[9:08]you but there are narrations praising fan and fan from the sahabah

[9:12]you put a question mark on them this is one and the

[9:17]second point is that let's say these Hadith are accepted these Hadith

[9:21]are talking about this person at this particular time just like what

[9:29]we mentioned in in the previous session Allah is satisfied with the

[9:37]who gives as long as you have this title of M the

[9:41]day you're not a m anymore is Allah going to be pleased

[9:43]with you Allah is not pleased with you anymore so maybe if

[9:47]he praised someone let's say we accept this Hadith even though we

[9:50]have a question on all of those hadiths let's say we accept

[9:55]them but then yeah this would this would mean that this person

[9:57]has to remain with the H with the truth for the rest

[10:02]of their life if someone changes later on there's no guarantee this

[10:05]the same way when Allah subhana wa tala Praises B the Israelites

[10:09]they became the chosen nation of God and and they were the

[10:15]ones who who Allah chose them over all of other creation why

[10:18]because they have a covenant with God and Allah tells them if

[10:23]you keep that Covenant you're chosen the moment you let go of

[10:27]that Covenant what happens to you then you are cursed they are

[10:31]cursed by Allah subhana tala and the same is said about those

[10:37]who were companions with prophets and then they end ended up leaving

[10:41]and when we look at the those who were around we know

[10:45]for a fact that there were some who did leave the ways

[10:49]of there was a the Quran says that you will turn back

[10:58]over your heels or um the Hadith that we mentioned in the

[11:06]previous session where the Angels they tell about the you don't know

[11:13]what they did after you when the prophet he comes and he

[11:15]tries to give them water they're pulled away like the camel is

[11:22]pulled away says my companions the reply is you don't know what

[11:25]they did after you so now inshallah maybe um in another session

[11:30]we could go over one one by one these but we want

[11:34]to move on to another misconception and this is the misconception that

[11:39]some people they come and they say why do you sh exaggerate

[11:43]your love for the why do you sh Show so much attachment

[11:48]to the you go and you visit the graves you do Z

[11:54]you walk to the grave of IM Hussein and it they make

[12:00]it look like there's an upset session with the and they'll come

[12:05]and they'll tell you you love IM Ali you love IM Hussein

[12:08]you love the more than you love Allah you don't even give

[12:12]attention tool Allah you don't even give attention to your Salah to

[12:17]your worship and you focus on the and some of the ways

[12:22]some of the um arguments that some people have is for example

[12:26]the in in the mean the in individual or the the belief

[12:33]in the sh and the visiting of the graves and this is

[12:37]what leads people there are groups that come and they do like

[12:43]for example he was the fir the wahabis they come and they

[12:48]give they come and they say sh are not even Muslim they're

[12:50]cir and that's what basically allows them to legalize and make it

[12:57]okay to take away the lives of Shia and this is why

[13:00]we've seen throughout history many sh are always persecuted as a result

[13:05]of their beliefs as a result of their love for the so

[13:09]here with regards to this misconception you see that it causes a

[13:14]lot of suffering a lot of pain right now Muslim cemeteries the

[13:20]old the two oldest cemeteries in Islam one Cemetery in meca or

[13:27]that has the grandparents of that has khad and then there's another

[13:32]Cemetery in Medina they're destroyed raised to the ground as a result

[13:39]of this belief system so just look how dangerous it is to

[13:42]have misconceptions when you don't know you end up having misconceptions about

[13:46]a belief system you start doing Tak you start allowing the killing

[13:50]the murder the Bloodshed and this is what we see has been

[13:58]happening 1926 the was destroyed and was destroyed 100 years before that

[14:02]carala was attacked in the beginning of the 1800s carala was attacked

[14:07]and Naf was attacked as well and the shrine of IM Hussein

[14:11]was looted and many sh were killed so this shows you how

[14:18]dangerous it is to have these misconceptions first of all a lot

[14:22]of these misconceptions they come out of ignorance the sh first of

[14:25]all none of the sh for example they love the more than

[14:30]Al or worship the No in fact we believe that the the

[14:39]IMs of the they are the servants ofi he saysed I am

[14:46]from the Servants of the Prophet but we follow him because he

[14:50]was the greatest of the Servants of while the other sahab they

[14:54]did not follow the way they were supposed to follow he followed

[15:00]the best that is why he is revered and he is loved

[15:06]so inshallah today we will address in with what's remaining we will

[15:10]address the misconception of the Shia's visiting of the graves and the

[15:15]in the in the imams and then probably next session we'll talk

[15:19]abouta more so as for visiting the graves there are several points

[15:26]that we have to address because they'll come and they'll tell you

[15:29]it's Haram to visit Graves if you're visiting a grave of IM

[15:31]Hussein of IM Ali of the then this is that means you're

[15:39]worshiping that grave no one is worshiping a grave and in fact

[15:43]there are several points the first point is that our religion our

[15:48]beliefs Islam and the Quran and the Hadith of the Prophet teaches

[15:51]us to associate and love that which brings me closer to Allah

[15:56]subhana wa tala and disassociate myself with that which brings me away

[16:02]from Allah and this is a general rule that we have to

[16:04]have in life anywhere you go in life anything you want to

[16:08]watch TV you want to go a place you want anything you

[16:09]want to do in in life ask yourself does this bring me

[16:14]closer to God or does this bring me further away from God

[16:17]if it brings me closer to God then this is good if

[16:20]it brings me further away from God then this is Haram this

[16:26]is something that I should stay away from and this is in

[16:28]the what what we call as I have to as a Muslim

[16:38]I have to love the Believers I have to love those who

[16:40]remind me of God those who bring me closer to God and

[16:45]I have to disassociate myself from those who bring me away from

[16:48]Allah subhana tala and Allah subhana T says a in a verse

[16:54]in the Quran not only do I have to bring myself closer

[16:56]to that which reminds me and brings me closer to Allah but

[17:02]I have to glorify it Allah says in the Quran if you

[17:12]glorify the means the slogan or the something that that brings you

[17:21]closer that brings it's like from the word the slogan of of

[17:25]a community of a group of people meaning something that stands out

[17:29]of um um a belief if you glorify that then that will

[17:35]bring you closer to Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala so what are certain

[17:42]things that Allah subhana wa tala commands Muslims and people to glorify

[17:46]for example a Masjid a Masjid that brings me closer to God

[17:50]I have to glorify I have to respect the Masjid this is

[17:52]why we have an Islam rules of respecting the Masjid we can't

[17:55]desecrate a Masjid if there's NASA if there's anything it's waj to

[18:00]clean it you can't bring in something filthy in you have to

[18:04]respect it and in addition to mjid there are other places that

[18:11]if they remind you of God then you have to respect and

[18:13]honor these places Allah gives us the example of the people of

[18:16]the cave they went and they slept in a cave and then

[18:24]after over 300 years what happened they the the community they found

[18:33]out that they were in there and they started they were sleeping

[18:36]or they had died in there and Allah subh says in the

[18:51]Quan so here Allah subhana T says we we kind of sent

[18:58]Clues to the people where the people of the cave are why

[19:03]so that they know that the promise of God is the truth

[19:08]and that there is no question in the day of judgment because

[19:13]if a group of people are able to sleep and then and

[19:18]then wake up after 300 years 309 years they're able to wake

[19:21]up so what happens that means someone is going to be able

[19:27]did I say it wrong okay someone is going to be able

[19:29]to to get up from their grave so so the people they

[19:44]were divided amongst themselves one group of people they said build something

[20:02]here to cover it and then another group of people they came

[20:06]and they said let's take this a Masjid now if there was

[20:13]any smell of sh of worshiping individuals if glorifying individuals means worshiping

[20:21]them would the Quran come and see approve of this the Quran

[20:24]would not approve of this but the Quran says the group that

[20:28]were overpowering those who are victorious in the matter let's make this

[20:36]place the place where they're buried the place where they're died in

[20:40]this in this cave let's make it a Masjid a place of

[20:44]a place of worship why because these people remind me of God

[20:48]because these people remind me of the day of judgment so here

[20:51]we see in the Quran it tells us that the people of

[20:56]anything that glorifies God anything that brings you closer to God you

[21:03]could glorify it one example is the people of the cave another

[21:06]example is not necessarily people Allah subhana tala talks about two mountains

[21:11]in mekah what are the names of these mountains saf and and

[21:21]are from the of God meaning they bring you closer to Allah

[21:27]subhana tala whoever does or they have to go and do between

[21:36]sa why because this is what reminds you of God this is

[21:43]what reminds you of Allah subhah similarly ibim where ibraim stood and

[21:53]he there was a rock that would lift ibraim Allah subhana wa

[21:56]tala tells every Muslim when you go and you do off around

[22:02]the after that what do you do go and pray now in

[22:09]the Kaa anywhere you pray you're facing the Kaa but after the

[22:15]TA where do you have to go and pray behind M ibraim

[22:17]why if ibraim is a human being what does ibraim have to

[22:22]do with that Allah says because of ibraim you come closer to

[22:25]me you get closer to Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala in fact the

[22:30]Quran goes a level further that it talks about the sheep and

[22:35]the cattle you know when people they used to go to Haj

[22:38]they used to take the sheep and the cattle with them this

[22:45]is called there's several types of and they would take from Medina

[22:54]they would take their goats and their cattle all that they want

[22:57]to sacrifice they would take it with them from the beginning now

[23:01]people in in or in they go and they take a sheep

[23:05]and they slaughter they buy a sheep and they slaughter it these

[23:07]people they would take the goats and the sheep and the camels

[23:12]they would take it with them so that they slaughter it but

[23:14]they would have to put a sign on it they would have

[23:18]to put a mark on it either you put your your shoes

[23:23]or or something you you you put it on you put it

[23:26]on it you put a mark on it that this is going

[23:27]to be sacrificed in the way of Allah subhana tala and throughout

[23:32]this whole journey they would not eat it they would not do

[23:34]even though they would get hungry they would not do anything Allah

[23:40]subhana tala says about that this bu this animal it is from

[23:49]the of Allah so if Mountain saf and are from of Allah

[23:56]if a camel or a goat or sheep is from the of

[24:01]Allah if the um the people of the cave where they're buried

[24:08]is of Allah is the grave of not from the sh of

[24:09]Allah is the grave of IM Ali not from the sh of

[24:13]Allah is the grave of IM Hussein not from the of Allah

[24:16]so this is number one second there are numerous Traditions from and

[24:24]from the Quran obviously in the Quran the verse of ma and

[24:32]from from Al that talk about the importance of visiting Al and

[24:38]visiting the the graves of the so in a from he says

[24:45]the one who performs the and does not visit me then this

[24:54]person has neglected me in another Hadith he says the one who

[25:00]visits me after my death it's as if you have visited me

[25:04]during my life and we believe that hears us when we visit

[25:11]him so and the Quran orders the Muslims inaha verse 64 Allah

[25:16]subhah wa tala orders the Muslims if they have oppressed eles where

[25:30]should they go they come to they asked next to you they

[25:40]ask Allah to forgive them and the prophet does for them you

[25:50]will see that Allah subhah wa tala is forgiving so is it

[25:56]is there a problem with me going to or me going to

[26:00]IM Ali or me going to IM Hussein or me going to

[26:01]any of the aah of Allah and asking Allah to forgive me

[26:07]next to them and asking them to ask Allah to forgive me

[26:12]this is direct very clear in the Quran they come to Allah

[26:15]they tell Allah we ask Allah to forgive us they ask Allah

[26:22]to forgive them andol Allah asks Allah to forgive them no problem

[26:27]with that whatsoever the sons of Yousef the sons of Yousef the

[26:30]brother excuse me the sons of Y the brothers of Yousef when

[26:35]they threw their brother in the well and they caused all of

[26:38]the misery and the suffering for Yousef later on they regretted it

[26:44]and they came to their father Y and what do they tell

[26:46]him they tell him he says I will ask Allah to forgive

[27:00]you now today they'll come and they'll tell you yes I don't

[27:09]they come to because is alive they come to because is alive

[27:17]you're going to a grave but we come and we say do

[27:22]we as Muslims believe that is really dead the body dies the

[27:27]soul does not die his soul is alive if the soul of

[27:34]a Shah according to the Quran the Shah does not die do

[27:38]not consider them dead they are alive so if the soul of

[27:43]a Shah is alive the soul of is not alive of course

[27:48]the soul of Al is alive and in fact Muslims in our

[27:51]prayer don't we say Salam to we all say Salam and salaat

[28:00]upon if that Salam and thatat has no meaning if the prophet

[28:05]is dead then that means we're doing something that has no meaning

[28:09]I'm just I'm just saying something with my tongue so of course

[28:12]not we believe that when I go to the grave of the

[28:17]prophets when I go to the graves of theah of the of

[28:19]the of the IMs that they hear me now another point the

[28:26]third point is that the if the belief that resorting to the

[28:32]grave of a prophet or the aah or the imams is and

[28:37]this belief is a new belief this is not something that was

[28:43]exist during the time of the Prophet or during the time time

[28:49]of the IMs of theam and you see that this ideology when

[28:59]did this ideology arise this belief it came into existence specifically during

[29:06]the time of about 800 years ago 7 to 800 Years Ago

[29:12]by IB T IB T was the one who came and he

[29:19]basically forbade people and did not allow people and made it haram

[29:22]and made gave a fatwa that it is Haram to visit Graves

[29:26]and he said it is Haram to visit the graves of and

[29:30]because he did that the Sunni government at that time he's buried

[29:36]in damasc in in sha in Syria the Sunni government at that

[29:39]time there were Sunni government they imprisoned him because of what he

[29:45]was saying and he died in prison he died in prison so

[29:54]this belief of this it is Haram it is sh to visit

[29:56]Graves this is new this is not something that has been practiced

[30:01]by Muslims by mainstream Muslims in fact right now go to Egypt

[30:06]go to Syria go toq abif has a grave in Egypt in

[30:12]there are Graves of of of of some of the sah of

[30:14]the Prophet go to Damascus you'll see Graves of Bena and many

[30:20]and many of those others so the belief in fact even I

[30:23]has a shrine the one who says it's Haram to have a

[30:27]shrine he has a shrine himself so when we look we see

[30:32]that the mainstream sah of they actually saw no problem whatsoever with

[30:39]visiting Graves there was no issue whatsoever this belief started by IB

[30:50]T but it died and then it was it came to life

[30:52]after the wahhabi movement grew the wahhabi wahhabi movement and this was

[30:57]after the discovery of oil in Saudi Arabia they became they started

[31:02]exporting that belief exporting that ideology across the Muslim world that it

[31:06]is Haram that it is sh to visit the grapes however when

[31:11]we look at our sources we see that there is no problem

[31:13]with that in fact I'll mention this Hadith ined he says now

[31:21]of course there were some of the sahabah of the Prophet that

[31:24]also did have this Twisted mentality this is not to say that

[31:31]no one had them but you see that in fact the majority

[31:34]they saw that there was no problem and they they had no

[31:40]issue with um with visiting Graves for example um in this Hadith

[31:49]by musnad Ahmed Hadith number 23585 he says Maran he came in

[32:01]the Masjid of the prophet and and Maran became khif Subhan Allah

[32:06]Maran was kicked out of kicked out of Medina by because he

[32:12]used to walk behind the prophet and make faces make fun of

[32:18]the Prophet so the prophet told him get out you're you're not

[32:21]you don't live here with us then Abu Bakr came to power

[32:26]they came and they told him bring back alham he said no

[32:28]the prophet kicked him out I'm not bringing him back in then

[32:31]Omar came to power they told him bring back Al he said

[32:33]no the prophet kicked him out I'm not bringing him back in

[32:36]then came to Powerman is related to him they're from the same

[32:39]Clan he came and he brought him in and Maran was the

[32:42]son-in-law ofman after the death of yazid B umya their rule was

[32:53]under the children of Abu sufyan muawiya and then yazid and then

[32:57]muawiya the son of yazid he ruled just for days and then

[33:03]the rule of B transferred to the maranis Maran and then ABD

[33:07]Malik Maran and then hasham and then the four sons of uh

[33:12]Maran and the grandchildren of Marwan they became the the Bena went

[33:17]from this line the line of Marwan a man who was very

[33:22]he used to show his hatred to the so he he walks

[33:28]in Maran and he sees a man he has his face on

[33:31]the grave of and Maran he told him do you know what

[33:39]you're doing so so he came he saw that this is Abu

[33:46]who has his face on the grave of Abu was the first

[33:50]man who welcomed the prophet in his home when the prophet migrated

[33:54]to Medina he stay he stayed in the house of Abu Ansari

[33:57]one of the poorest people in in uh out of the Muslim

[34:03]Community and by the way Abu Ansari is buried inul because he

[34:07]he the prophet told him that you are going to be in

[34:14]the conquest of Alia Constantinople and there were a series of battles

[34:18]and Abu Ansari died in that battle and he's buried inside the

[34:22]borders of inside actually inside the borders oful and until today if

[34:29]you go there you see the grave of abui so he tells

[34:35]him Maran he tells what are you doing he tells him it

[34:42]is me he tells him I came to visit am not visiting

[34:49]the Rock and the stone and the dirt and then he says

[34:54]he tells Maran he tells him he says he says I heard

[35:13]AB says I heard say don't cry about the faith religion if

[35:16]the right people are in leadership but cry for religion when the

[35:22]wrong people are in power meaning he's telling him you are in

[35:25]the wrong power this is one Hadith AB he comes and visits

[35:30]the grave of and he puts his face his cheek on the

[35:35]grave of another Hadith this is this is Hadith that is mentioned

[35:41]in volume one page 43 and this is a Hadith it's it's

[35:48]basically it goes back to meaning she herself she saw that there

[35:55]was no problem whatsoever with visiting the grave and in fact doing

[35:59]at the grave of she says there was poverty there was famine

[36:11]because of the lack of rain in Medina so these people they

[36:18]come the people of Medina they come to AA and they tell

[36:24]her what are we supposed to do pray for us so basically

[36:38]she tells them go and remove there was a dome there was

[36:44]a small cover over the grave of she says Let There be

[36:50]no cover between let the in the dome let there be an

[36:52]opening where between the grave of Allah and the Heaven and the

[36:58]sky there's no barrier so she says um he says that year

[37:16]it rained so much as a result of what they did that

[37:21]the grass grew and all of the camels and the cattle they

[37:24]became very fat and that year that year it was named as

[37:33]the year of the hernia because the animals were going so big

[37:36]they thought they were going to have a hernia because of how

[37:38]fat they they become so this is this is one of theith

[37:44]that basically it shows you that there's no problem with visiting the

[37:48]graves now what about some narrations there are some narration for example

[37:53]that come and talk about don't um don't visit Graves there are

[38:01]maybe there are some if if you were to accept those narrations

[38:04]there's another Hadith that is mentioned inl where says he says in

[38:17]the past I told you not to visit the graves but now

[38:23]you could visit the graves why does anyone know why why would

[38:27]and the beginning of Islam tell people not to visit the graves

[38:40]so yes one of the reason one of the is that the

[38:47]M the ideology of those people who were fresh Muslims the kufar

[38:51]in the beginning is that if I'm visiting a grave that means

[38:54]I'm worshiping this grave because even the idols that they had like

[39:01]hubel and L and these were in fact good people they were

[39:05]righteous people in their Community but they started worshiping them worship not

[39:09]worshiping them they started revering them until they started making Idols out

[39:13]of them and then they started worshiping them so if we were

[39:19]to accept this Hadith when the community was freshly Muslim they have

[39:22]just joined the religion of Islam these people they were just worshiping

[39:25]Idols so now he tells them don't worship don't don't visit the

[39:30]graves because now when you're visiting the grave this might bring you

[39:35]back to Idol but then later on when Islam became solid in

[39:41]the minds of people no one when you're visiting a grave do

[39:44]you imagine yourself worshiping this person of course not you know that

[39:47]this person's dead if they're dead then how is this person going

[39:51]to help you if if they're dead meaning meaning that the body

[39:54]is dead how's this person going to support you of course we

[39:56]believe that IM of the their souls are alive but no one

[40:01]is worshiping them no one is worshiping anyone when you are visiting

[40:04]the graves this is one reason the second reason is a lot

[40:11]of these Muslims when the prophet first tells them not to visit

[40:16]the graves what does why is he telling them not to visit

[40:20]the graves because whose graves are they visiting they're visiting the graves

[40:27]of their parents who are kufar they're visiting the graves of idol

[40:32]worshippers and in Islam you cannot even do you can't say Allah

[40:35]forgive this Idol worshipper because this person did not even believe in

[40:39]Allah subhanahu wa tala but then after the community grew and now

[40:47]you have this person's father is a Muslim so now or or

[40:49]you have a community of Muslims that are buried in the cemetery

[40:53]now you go and you visit the Muslim before that there was

[40:58]no community of Muslims in the cemetery everyone was a cafir now

[41:01]you have a community of Muslim then you go and you visit

[41:07]them and this is why you see that he would go and

[41:12]visit the graves and there are many benefits to visiting the graves

[41:17]narration say every Monday he would go and the cemetery of is

[41:21]walking distance from he would go and he would visit the graves

[41:30]he he would basically you are those who who believe in the

[41:35]Oneness of God I'm visiting you peace be upon you and there

[41:38]are many benefits of visiting the graves when you visit the grave

[41:44]you you you remember death you remove the attachment from this and

[41:53]then over time he made it okay to go and visit the

[41:58]graves and there's nothing wrong with that and then we see the

[42:00]imams of the Al They also continued that tradition visiting the graves

[42:05]of the aah and the she tells in her she tells him

[42:12]and come and visit my grave and recite Quran over my grave

[42:18]because the deceased enjoys when the Quran is being recited over the

[42:22]grave and the fifth and final point that we will mention is

[42:28]that from amongst the graves that we visit now it's recommended for

[42:31]us to visit of course it's recommended to visit the graves of

[42:35]your parents the graves of the relatives the graves of the m

[42:41]and the graves of those who bring you closer to Allah subhana

[42:44]tala and that is the prophet and the imams of the bit

[42:50]why because when you visit them you will become more religious when

[42:54]you visit them you will be you will get closer to your

[42:56]faith and they are those who are the representatives of the faith

[43:02]they are those who Inspire us to become better Muslims and this

[43:07]is um what every Community does right now when you remember someone

[43:13]for example here you have for example Martin Luther King Day you

[43:17]have President's Day you have several days that go back to certain

[43:22]individuals why because they want you to rever the sacrifices and the

[43:30]the contributions that this person made to this community so same we

[43:35]say when I visit when I visit the IMs of the we

[43:39]are basically strengthening our ties with Islam with the Quran with Salah

[43:45]by remembering the and those who bring us closer to Allah subhana

[43:49]tala so inshallah we will stop here in the next session we

[43:53]will talk about and and what is the legal um basically rulings

[44:00]behind doing shouldn't we turn to God why are we asking Allah

[44:04]or what does this person do by elevating my rank in Paradise

[44:10]how does that happen and who receives the Sha as well so

[44:14]so these are um what we will inshallah cover next week but

[44:20]does anyone have any questions as what was discussed today so um

[44:34]of course some of them we do but actually Imam Ali he's

[44:41]in that list they are Abu Bakr Omar Zu ABD Z and

[44:59]Abu actually we only only because all of the others they had

[45:03]issues Abu Bakr he took the he took the position he took

[45:10]the position of and and they all three of them they did

[45:17]that and Zu they waged the wars against the war of the

[45:24]war of Jamal against he was in the six the Council of

[45:34]the six and he chose he chose so he he basically chose

[45:43]abias he was the father of Omar one of he had the

[45:50]conquest of Islam um he did not give to he did not

[45:58]give toir even during his life and there's I don't know if

[46:07]there's something that we have against them maybe um but from those

[46:12]you can't the the this narration it is narrated by SB Z

[46:16]he how could someone come and narrate a Hadith praising themselves and

[46:33]that is that is something that is also true that between the

[46:39]m and the there was a bias and there was a fight

[46:41]in the day of the Sak there was a fight over the

[46:45]between the m and the ANS the ansar they said we hosted

[46:49]we brought you in and now you guys want to come and

[46:50]take all the power what what's from the muhaj yes no this

[47:00]is m not muah yes yes yes exactly exactly yes so saying

[47:47]Ali if you were to say it with the belief that with

[47:52]the belief that you are worshiping IM Ali of course it's Haram

[47:55]but just a asking for help from someone where's the where's the

[48:03]sh in that where's where's the Haram in that I'm asking for

[48:06]help from someone inshallah in the next session we will go through

[48:09]the uh details and why it is allowed and you will see

[48:17]that how many times did say Ali how many times did he

[48:20]call he would say y Ali so saying y Ali if you

[48:28]are believing that this brings you closer to God and closer to

[48:31]Imam Ali who brings you closer to God but you're not worshiping

[48:35]Imam Ali no one's worshiping IM Ali then there is nothing wrong

[48:40]with that yes Brothers okay

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