Debunking Misconceptions: Session 1 - Sayed Saleh Qazwini

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[0:00]the first of a series of sessions on and we will be

[0:09]discussing certain misconceptions against Shia Islam so we've done a series of

[0:16]Crash courses and sessions in the past we did for example which

[0:22]is building the foundations of Islam as a religion and then we

[0:29]did the where what are the what is wag and what is

[0:32]obligatory upon a Muslim the 10 the 10 branches of Faith however

[0:41]this would probably go a level further that was probably at a

[0:44]basic level now this is building on top of what we have

[0:47]already established especially in the and when you know the in the

[0:57]we discussed that one of the is belief in the IM the

[0:59]fourth one is the belief in the and is it opens the

[1:09]chapter and it opens the door for sh the belief in shm

[1:13]but the belief in shm is not just believing in the IM

[1:19]it's believing in the and the infallibility the issue of the issue

[1:23]of many many different beliefs and as we know the Shia are

[1:29]a minority within the Muslims and there are many many misconceptions there

[1:35]are many accusations uh about shiism about and here the reason for

[1:43]these misconceptions there are several reasons for these misconceptions one of the

[1:46]first reason reasons for misconceptions and this is not only misconceptions about

[1:52]shiism but this could be also misconceptions about Islam or misconceptions about

[1:58]anything anything right now for example I think of a group of

[2:02]people I think of of a country I think of a a

[2:06]type of anything I might have beliefs that are wrong about that

[2:10]so one of the first reasons is ignorance because there's a lot

[2:15]of ignorance regarding Islam there's a lot of ignorance regarding shiism that

[2:20]is one of the reasons why there are many misconceptions and today

[2:25]if you go to for example any of the Muslim world the

[2:29]Sunni countries go to Morocco go to Algeria go to Malaysia go

[2:35]to Indonesia and tell them what do you know about Shia and

[2:39]they will tell you certain things that you have never heard of

[2:47]um some things that are strange if if if what they were

[2:49]saying about the Shia some of what they're saying is true then

[2:51]I we would not like that either so this comes from ignorance

[2:57]this is one and unfortunately there's a lot of ignorance within the

[3:02]religious community as well people that practice people that pray but they

[3:07]have that that the fact that they're ignorant and they don't know

[3:11]that they're ignorant see there's two types of ignorance there's one person

[3:15]they're ignorant they don't know if I don't know about something healthwise

[3:19]who do I go to I go to a doctor if I

[3:25]don't know about um something with regards to engineering who do I

[3:28]go to I go to an engineer this is when you this

[3:35]is healthy because you know that you don't know and you go

[3:38]and you seek experts but sometimes there's something that is worse than

[3:43]J ignorance and that is called what does that mean that means

[3:48]I'm ignorant of something and I'm ignorant of the fact that I'm

[3:55]ignorant of it so what does this mean the first example I

[3:57]don't know anything about the heart so who do I go to

[4:01]and I have a heart problem I go to the doctor the

[4:05]other one I don't know about the heart but I think I

[4:08]know about the heart and I start treating myself and I start

[4:12]treating other people I start giving out medicine I start becoming the

[4:15]doctor but in fact I don't know anything so I will cause

[4:18]not only pain and suffering for myself but I will cause it

[4:22]for others and this is something that happens a lot in religion

[4:25]because for someone to come and speak about religion you don't need

[4:31]any credentials right now if you're a doctor you're an engineer you're

[4:34]a plumber whatever you are you need to have credentials no one's

[4:37]going to give you a license but for someone to speak about

[4:39]religion give their opinion about religion anyone could come and give a

[4:43]opinion about religion it's like those political commentators anyone is a everyone's

[4:48]a political commentator these days so it's um it's a issue that

[4:56]is very dangerous and today if you go and you ask the

[4:59]Muslim world what do you know about about shm a lot of

[5:02]them have no clue a lot of them don't know many things

[5:04]and there are many misconceptions I'm going to mention a list of

[5:08]them and maybe later on we want to make this an interactive

[5:10]discussion if anyone has anything that I did not mention we could

[5:14]uh also mention that so from amongst the misconceptions is um the

[5:23]false claim that that chose IM when they were normal people just

[5:27]like all other good Muslims today some Muslims they come and they

[5:32]say okay what's the the prophet did not choose IM Ali they

[5:34]did not choose the the they were just like all the other

[5:39]Muslims why do we make such a big deal this is one

[5:41]to throw that out there and to come and say theit are

[5:45]normal people they're just like anyone else whereas when we look at

[5:47]the Quran we see the Quran has given them their special status

[5:51]during the in the life of the Prophet they have that special

[5:53]status and that is a Divine status that Allah has given them

[6:01]one accusation and misconception is sh are why did D Isis go

[6:05]and wage war and kill so many so many sh they come

[6:10]and they said these sh are these are Idol worshippers why because

[6:13]they do because they do because they worship the graves of the

[6:17]imams and they come and they say they're Idol they're kafir they're

[6:22]mush they're they're the worst type of kufur even kufur has levels

[6:26]for example the people of the book they are kuf but they're

[6:29]a a better level than a mus a polytheist they come and

[6:33]they say the sh are the mus meaning they associate partners with

[6:39]Allah subhah third sh rever IM Ali and the IMs above the

[6:43]prophet and they believe that J was supposed to go to IM

[6:48]Ali but instead went to the prophet so they come and they

[6:50]say the sh they come and they sit together and they say

[6:55]what does means it means Al he betrayed instead of going to

[7:04]instead of going to IM Ali he went to the prophet they

[7:05]come and they say that this is the Shia belief and the

[7:11]Shia's believe that the imams and and and and IM Ali is

[7:14]above the prophet fourth sh accused the wife of the prophet of

[7:17]committing Zena so this is something you always hear it they come

[7:22]and they say oh the sh attack the wives of the prophet

[7:24]and they accuse them or accuse one of them of Zena sh

[7:29]has cursed the sah was made by a Jewish man who wanted

[7:34]to divide the Muslims and cause a f so the whole origin

[7:36]of sham it has to do with a Jewish man he came

[7:40]in the Muslim Community and we will address this today in by

[7:43]the name of Abdullah Sabah he came and he wanted to cause

[7:48]division the Muslims they were all cuddly cuddly they were all very

[7:51]cute and and good with one another he came and he wanted

[7:56]to destroy the umah and he came and and he converted to

[7:59]Islam uh supposedly and he and he caused that division within the

[8:04]Muslims um this is one another one is seven sh don't actually

[8:11]follow the true teachings of IM Ali IM Hassan IM Hussein and

[8:14]the imams IM Ali did not have a problem with the establishment

[8:18]IM Hussein did not have a problem with anyone IM Hassan did

[8:21]not have a problem with anyone they were just killed for no

[8:23]reason for you know so so they come and they say Shia

[8:28]are not even following the imams because the had no problem with

[8:31]the establishment number eight sh killed IM Hussein and they cry for

[8:37]him now out of regret for what they did to him so

[8:40]you know they call that gaslighting where where they come and they

[8:44]say sh are the ones who killed Imam Hussein but now they're

[8:49]they're blaming others and now they're crying for what they did for

[8:52]to IM Hussein and they hit their chest so uh number nine

[8:56]all sh practice self mutilation and self liation this is also a

[9:01]misconception she has born out of wedlock as many practice mut marriage

[9:06]and that is not a valid form of marriage so they come

[9:10]and they say you guys are born out of mut and and

[9:14]mut is according to them is not a valid form of marriage

[9:16]so basically sh are sons of Zena um sh worship a rock

[9:22]a turba when we pray to the turba they come and they

[9:27]say you are worshiping that sh have weird beliefs like IM Mahi

[9:30]was born over a thousand years ago and is still alive and

[9:34]hidden from the eyes and disappeared in a basement so this basically

[9:37]when you come and you say it like that but then when

[9:41]you come and you break it down you come and you see

[9:45]that this it could be thrown as a misconception but when you

[9:47]come and you look at the ad you come and you look

[9:50]at the proof and inshallah we'll address all of these as the

[9:56]time comes um on all Surplus ass and assets which sunnis don't

[9:59]and Muhammad did not collect anys instead he collected zakat so they

[10:04]come and they say sh are having this form of income that

[10:09]is basically out of nowhere it they made it up to fool

[10:11]people um sh always go against the Muslim Greater Community and always

[10:16]cause division so always you hear this look at the Shia they're

[10:21]always dividing they're always causing division within the Muslim umah um sh

[10:25]believe in the of the imams and um and and they believe

[10:32]that certain imams are going to come back and this is a

[10:35]weird belief um sh have their own Quran and thei you hear

[10:40]all of these all the time of course you're not going to

[10:43]hear it with the moderate and mainstream Sunni Muslim but you will

[10:50]hear it with those that have an agenda against shm against against

[10:54]your beliefs so these are some that I was just you know

[10:58]I was just writing down they're probably others does anyone have any

[11:02]in mind that I might have uh not mentioned yes okay okay

[11:15]so this will cover when it comes to IM Al M the

[11:20]belief in IM Mahi that n didn't exist um yes that's a

[11:25]good one so these are all misconceptions in Arabic what do you

[11:28]call a misconception no B is innovation Innovation is adding something to

[11:36]the religion it's and basically what it is it's an argument that

[11:46]sounds very close to the truth it sounds close to the truth

[11:52]but it's not the truth this is why it's called because he

[11:56]says because it resembles it means it's something that resembles it resembles

[12:03]the truth that is why people fall for it if someone comes

[12:09]and tells you something that is very far from the truth right

[12:11]away you're going to say I don't believe in this but you

[12:12]come and you say something that is is close to the truth

[12:18]it resembles the truth it makes people believe it so here has

[12:22]the IMs of the they have several on and how you deal

[12:27]with a and what do you do to strengthen yourself because we

[12:30]want to build the foundation before we go and we address these

[12:36]issues one after the other he says the is referred to as

[12:48]a a misconception because it looks like the because it looks like

[12:54]the so basically the Imam he says that those who are they

[13:17]are Guided by their Y is always stronger than doubt today when

[13:24]you have y in something could someone come and take that when

[13:26]you have certainty in something could someone come and take that away

[13:30]from you they can't because you have certainty in it so he

[13:34]says the the true believers they have strong faith they're not shaken

[13:38]they don't give up on their faith easily and we find every

[13:43]day in our life our faith is tested sometimes it's tested through

[13:47]trials sometimes it's tested through a professor sometimes it's tested through a

[13:52]movie or someone might come and say something oh why do you

[13:54]believe in IM sad why do you believe in IMI you believe

[13:58]in the you believe in this why believe in God everything was

[14:00]created Darwinism all of these they come and they throw it at

[14:06]you it looks similar to the truth but it's intended to come

[14:08]and bring you away but the and they're always they're always um

[14:18]Guided by the pursuit of the truth and pursuit of hi the

[14:25]pursuit of guidance they don't want to follow their desires they don't

[14:27]want to follow what other people are saying they say I want

[14:32]to follow the H I have to follow the H and this

[14:33]is something very important today for example you find some people they

[14:40]come and they say tell me tell me what makes it easy

[14:42]for me I want religion to be easy for me is that

[14:46]is that the mindset that we're supposed to have always go after

[14:48]what's easy or do we have to find what's H do we

[14:52]have to find the truth sometimes the truth is not easy sometimes

[14:55]the truth is very easy I have to have that pursuit of

[15:00]following the truth truth however but the the enemies of God they

[15:10]are they're not Guided by hiah they're not Guided by Guidance they're

[15:13]not in pursuit of the truth they're in pursuit of meaning taking

[15:17]the many paths the many deviated paths and here's what's hard today

[15:24]why do we look at most people are doing wrong and only

[15:27]a few people are doing the good because the path to good

[15:32]is one but the path to bad is many Allah talks about

[15:34]this in the Quran is plural but n is one what does

[16:18]that mean that means the paths the paths of deviance are many

[16:22]as soon as I get off course I'm driving from point A

[16:26]to point B as soon as I take a right I'm lost

[16:29]as soon as I take a left I'm lost as soon as

[16:30]I leave the navigation system I'm lost there are many roads that

[16:36]are wrong but the path of the H is one so the

[16:40]m is the one that is in pursuit of the H but

[16:41]the or the the the enemies of God and they're Guided by

[16:52]blindness they're not Guided by true and another Hadi he says be

[17:01]very careful of the of the misconception because it's there to cause

[17:06]a FNA it's there to derail you to test your faith in

[17:11]another he says when God wants to guide someone don't be quick

[17:20]to make a decision when you're not sure and this is where

[17:24]a lot of people fall in the I have all sometimes people

[17:28]they come and they're like yeah I heard a Professor he said

[17:30]something and now I don't believe in religion they made a decision

[17:35]right away because they heard one one Professor or they they watched

[17:39]one YouTube video they heard one lecture the m is the one

[17:43]who does w if I'm not sure let me wait until I

[17:47]make a final decision don't be quick to make decisions uh in

[17:52]another Hadith IMI he says the best type of meaning not falling

[17:58]in the sins having that ability to control yourself is to control

[18:02]yourself in falling in the and as we said it resembles the

[18:10]truth it's something that many people are susceptible to falling in am

[18:14]I immune from falling in a shha am I immune from being

[18:15]misled no I'm not every single one of us look at look

[18:20]at and those who are with him the sahaba they were with

[18:25]the prophet they saw the prophet every day they used to pray

[18:27]behind the prophet everything but then many Muslims they deviated look at

[18:34]those who were with IM Ali some of them they deviated from

[18:35]the h those who were with the IMs of the they deviated

[18:40]so this is why we should not believe that we have a

[18:42]guaranteed protection from and we have to know what it takes in

[18:48]time if someone comes and throws a throw you see a Hadith

[18:52]that doesn't make sense to you you see a verse in the

[18:54]Quran that you don't understand the of does that make you to

[19:00]make quick conclusion I no so our duty and I say this

[19:11]to myself even though for example right now I'm a Shia I'm

[19:13]a Muslim and I'm a sh but does this mean that I

[19:19]should not question my faith no I question my faith because how

[19:22]do I make my faith become strong how do I make my

[19:26]faith become solid if I don't test it so this is why

[19:33]it's healthy sometimes and this happens all the times parents they come

[19:36]to me they're like please talk to my son talk to my

[19:40]daughter this happened a few days ago with me a mom she

[19:41]comes and she brings her daughter please talk to my daughter I

[19:45]said why she said because my daughter she asks hard questions she

[19:49]comes and she says Where's God she comes and she tells me

[19:52]why why do we have to do this as Muslims why do

[19:55]we have to believe in this I told the mom I told

[20:00]told her what your daughter is doing is very natural how is

[20:03]someone supposed to strengthen their IM if they don't ask these questions

[20:11]yes there's a difference between asking this question and ignoring it and

[20:16]leaving your faith and asking your question and coming to a scholar

[20:19]or coming to someone who could answer you picking up a book

[20:20]trying to find the answer it's perfectly healthy to put yourself in

[20:28]this situation so that when you are faced with a difficult time

[20:31]you know how to answer otherwise how do I believe in God

[20:34]if I don't question I don't come and bring myself to the

[20:37]conviction how do I believe in the prophet how do I believe

[20:39]in the imams how do I believe in the how do I

[20:42]believe in everything that I believe in I have to come and

[20:46]question it but the important thing is that we have to number

[20:49]one resort to facts some people they want to find the truth

[20:53]but they go and they say oh I saw this in a

[20:56]dream I saw this in a magazine I saw this here and

[21:00]there no you resort to facts when you resort to the fact

[21:03]then you're not going to be misled but if you don't resort

[21:07]to fact then yeah there's people there's voices everywhere telling you to

[21:12]do to do certain things and there's no room for when it

[21:18]comes to religion what does mean arrogance meaning I can't come and

[21:24]say oh I told you so oh she you told me I

[21:25]told you I have to begin where I I accept the possibility

[21:32]that I might be wrong that's how I build my faith so

[21:36]it's not an issue of I told you so and I told

[21:39]you so it's an issue of I want to find the truth

[21:41]if this is the truth then I will follow the truth we

[21:46]have to follow the truth and we should not make the H

[21:48]be basically oh this is what I want so this is how

[21:52]I'm going to change religion this is what I want this is

[21:56]how I'm going to make the religion I have to conform to

[21:57]the way the religion is not I not I make the I

[22:03]change the religion around because of me Allah says in the Quran

[22:23]basically the meaning the truth is what you need to follow you

[22:28]you have to follow the truth and you cannot come and say

[22:33]oh I want to follow this because my cousin follows this I

[22:35]want to follow this because my family follows this no I have

[22:37]to follow the truth and in the face of shat we have

[22:42]to always make sure that Y and certainty and the is what

[22:47]we follow not what our desires tell us or what we we

[22:49]want or what we see the majority of people today one of

[22:54]the misconceptions against shm is they come and they tell me but

[22:57]you're a minority right now no how how does it make sense

[23:03]that all the Muslims 70% 60% of the Muslims they're on the

[23:05]wrong in the minority are on the truth this is something argument

[23:12]that you always see but just because you're a majority does that

[23:14]mean you're with the truth today right now you look what's going

[23:16]on in America the majority of people are okay with you know

[23:21]LGBT marriage or something like that does that mean that that's good

[23:24]the majority of people don't have a moral compass when it comes

[23:27]to political issues that are going gone does that mean that that's

[23:30]good no the just because you're a majority that doesn't mean but

[23:35]see sometimes that is one thing that comes and tricks people no

[23:37]no don't follow this because the majority believe in this who cares

[23:40]about the majority my job is to follow the truth and we

[23:46]need to be very careful not to add to the religion and

[23:51]change to the religion because of what we want is this something

[23:53]that has happened in the history of religion yes look at Judaism

[23:57]look at Christianity and look look at Islam as well there were

[24:02]many manipulations and fabrications when it comes to religion this is one

[24:10]so always follow the truth second is I need to accept the

[24:13]possibility in order to reach the truth I have to humble myself

[24:20]and that means that I have to accept the possibility that I

[24:23]was wrong that doesn't mean that if I'm doing that then I'm

[24:28]I'm I'm going against my faith right now for example they come

[24:31]and they tell me you're a you believe that IM Ali was

[24:33]the IM after the prophet I say yes okay tell me let's

[24:39]come bring yourself a step back before you come and you become

[24:42]very strong staunch believer in this come to the idea that the

[24:45]prophet didn't or during the time of the prophet and you don't

[24:49]know anything yet give the others the benefit of the doubt and

[24:51]give IM Ali the give them all equal equal status and then

[24:56]look at the proofs and look at the ad all of them

[25:00]and then later on make the decision don't start off by making

[25:04]that decision accept the possibility that I may be wrong am I

[25:08]AUM no I'm not AUM that means I could be wrong so

[25:10]what was I born with full knowledge no my knowledge is increasing

[25:15]every day so here we understand that we we understand that um

[25:23]we need to we need to basically humble ourselves and that's how

[25:29]we find the truth is it is it very possible um were

[25:34]others wrong before us for example did others come and make wrong

[25:37]decisions yes so why do I come and believe that everything I

[25:40]believe in is the truth I need to question I need to

[25:44]question not that I'm questioning so that I leave the religion I

[25:47]question so that I strengthen my faith and this is why this

[25:51]is this is very important even addressing addressing beliefs because this is

[25:57]how we strengthen our faith and our our belief so here the

[26:04]path to conviction begins with questioning beliefs and you have to try

[26:09]to convince yourself to believe in that and I always tell people

[26:11]sometimes people they come and they want to convert to Islam I

[26:15]tell them listen before you convert ask any question and try to

[26:17]debate try to prove me wrong not only me try to prove

[26:24]what what the argument is is wrong so that later on when

[26:26]you oh I didn't feel like getting up and praying I didn't

[26:30]feel like believing in this I heard something here and there you

[26:33]have no room to fall away from the h so try to

[26:37]try to look for all the holes and and the argument and

[26:40]try to come and see where the issue is with your faith

[26:44]if you do that and you do it with genuine sincerity with

[26:46]good intention to find the truth then Allah subhana T will take

[26:51]you to the truth but if you have and arrogance and pride

[26:53]or no I'm doing this because my people are following this I'm

[26:57]following this because of this then you won't find the truth then

[27:00]you're following and arrogance and this is the attitude that we should

[27:04]have towards seeking knowledge and this is why in Islam there is

[27:09]no knowledge that Islam comes and tells you be afraid of tells

[27:13]Muslims seek knowledge even if it's in China what does that mean

[27:18]that means if I am sincere in my intentions towards seeking knowledge

[27:21]all types of knowledge will guide me to the truth all types

[27:26]of knowledge will eventually guide me to the H so but we

[27:29]have to look at all the data today there are some Scholars

[27:34]some she some speakers they come and they tell people no no

[27:36]no don't go and sit with this people don't read this book

[27:38]don't do that because you're going to you're going to leave what

[27:43]you're believing in we come and we say no let's come and

[27:45]look at everything and this is why one thing beautiful that strengthens

[27:47]the sh argument is that the sh proof the proof of shm

[27:52]is all and most of it is in the Quran and in

[27:57]the books and the history that is written by so we have

[28:01]nothing to worry about you come and you look at the you

[28:05]come and you look at the proof and you find it it

[28:06]is all there so this is the second point so we mentioned

[28:12]the first point is that we need to resort to the facts

[28:17]always have the the navigation B finding the H and second we

[28:20]need to accept the possibility that we are wrong because that's how

[28:25]we strengthen and third and I I I want to insist on

[28:27]this this is very important important when we are getting in these

[28:29]topics especially shni topics are we doing this to come and Bash

[28:35]sunnis and talk about sunnis in a bad way and negative way

[28:37]of course not our whole purpose is to strengthen our beliefs our

[28:41]whole purpose is to come in strengthen our own AA and if

[28:46]anyone is asking us questions there are some people they come and

[28:50]they they take these arguments but they do it in an insulting

[28:55]way where they're insulting the others the others maybe they don't know

[28:58]or maybe they heard something this is what they believed in so

[29:01]we have to be very careful and very respectful and we have

[29:03]to follow the manh the curriculum of the Quran Allah says in

[29:09]the Quran Allah says in the Quran invite for the sake of

[29:22]your Lord with wisdom and good admonishments meaning if I'm coming and

[29:29]I'm talking to an atheist I'm talking to a non-believer I'm talking

[29:33]to anyone who's different from me whether this is a Sunni whether

[29:38]this is a Hindu whether this is a a sh that is

[29:39]doesn't believe in all the imams even there are sh that are

[29:43]for example zi sh there are sh that believe up to the

[29:45]seventh IM or whatever so you have to deal with them with

[29:52]wisdom maybe I could attract someone to the religion by being kind

[29:56]by be by inviting in them in a very reasonable way using

[30:01]using wisdom rather than I come and I tell this person you're

[30:04]going to hell you're you're going to hell this is wrong and

[30:10]unfortunately there are people that follow the other method where they come

[30:13]and they push people away rather than they invite them use wisdom

[30:18]speak out of the heart how did manage to bring all of

[30:24]these people they were KU they were mus they were Idol worshippers

[30:27]Allah attracted why because he spoke out of love he spoke out

[30:32]of compassion he wasn't using hate language he wasn't using any of

[30:36]this type of language that brings people away if they're debating debate

[30:45]in the best way possible your Lord knows who is astray and

[30:56]your Lord knows who is who on the right path who am

[31:00]I to come and say you're going to heaven and you're going

[31:02]to hell Allah is the one who knows who is the one

[31:06]who is on the truth and who is the one who is

[31:10]on the wrong path my job is to follow the proofs that

[31:14]I have I follow the Quran I follow the Hadith I follow

[31:16]the prophet so I try to be on the H it's not

[31:19]my job to come and say you're going to heaven and you're

[31:22]going to hell I say they tell me then why are you

[31:23]doing this I say because this is what the Quran says and

[31:26]this is what the Hadith says so this is something very important

[31:29]and Allah describes in another verse the true they're humble they don't

[31:47]look up look down on other people when an ignorant person speaks

[31:55]to them in a derogatory way they say Salam they say peace

[31:57]so this is is something very important so inshallah we will be

[32:00]addressing some of these misconceptions with these three points in mind seeking

[32:05]the truth beginning with the basis and Foundation that I might be

[32:12]wrong so I don't come and hold prior prior Notions and prior

[32:16]beliefs and then the third is um we try to do it

[32:23]in the best and the best way possible okay muham muhad so

[32:29]the first to come and later build up slowly the first is

[32:35]the the idea of the origins of shiaism today you come and

[32:42]you see some individuals who have no knowledge about Islam they come

[32:46]and they tell you that shiaism is something different there's no they'll

[32:50]come and they'll tell you there's no sh and Sunni in Islam

[32:52]everyone follows the prophet and where did this word Shia come from

[32:58]everyone is a Muslim why why are the Shia different from the

[33:00]Muslims and they'll come and they'll tell you shiism started after shm

[33:05]started during the time of IM sad some people they'll come and

[33:10]they'll tell you shis started aftera some people they'll come and they'll

[33:14]tell you shis started after the safs came and they they come

[33:17]and they bring all of these different arguments to throw them in

[33:22]there and someone who has no knowledge somewh and and the narrative

[33:25]is not controlled by the sh right now in the majority of

[33:28]the Muslim world who controls the narrative it's not the sh so

[33:30]a lot of people they'll believe all of this without questioning without

[33:34]using the basis of seeking knowledge so from amongst the misconceptions against

[33:41]Shia Islam is that um shiaism started by they'll come and they'll

[33:50]tell you of course not all not all sunnis will say this

[33:53]this is an extreme view where you find some people they come

[33:58]she they they'll come and they'll tell you shiism started by a

[34:05]Jewish convert to Islam a Jewish man he converted to Islam and

[34:10]his name is Abdullah Sabah Abdullah Sabah this man he converted and

[34:16]he saw that the Muslims everything was you know everything was all

[34:20]Jolly and there was no problems whatsoever so what did he do

[34:25]he came and he wanted to divide them because there's always a

[34:29]conspiracy there's always foreign intervention uh blame it and say there's Jewish

[34:34]man he came and he he decided to divide the Muslims so

[34:41]the idea of this man he came to stir political and religious

[34:45]strife and cause division within the umah and the the idea the

[34:50]allegation is that this man came during the time ofman and he

[34:55]riled up people against and he told people go and turn against

[34:59]and they went and they protested against ended up getting killed he

[35:05]came and he told people follow ALB they followed Al Talib and

[35:08]he came and he started exaggerating the merits of alali and that's

[35:12]how sh was built um this is the whole story of Abdullah

[35:20]Sabah but today Sunni Scholars many of the moderate Sunni Scholars when

[35:26]they come and they look at the whole idea of of um

[35:28]Abdullah sabat they see that this is a fabrication perhaps there was

[35:33]no man named Abdullah sabat it's a made of fictional character whether

[35:39]whether he actually existed or not is in question And even if

[35:45]he existed you there's a huge sense of exaggeration to come and

[35:51]blame everything all of the division all of the Grievances that Muslims

[35:56]have had all of the TR trouble and problems that have occurred

[35:59]you come and you blame it on a a Jewish man this

[36:04]is a very convenient answer to come and say oh there's no

[36:10]problems nothing nothing has happened this is a very lazy answer to

[36:12]come and say no one wants to do research no one wants

[36:16]to come and see oh there were there problems why did the

[36:20]Muslims revolt against was there a source to shm was there origin

[36:24]to shis were there groups of people that were called sh during

[36:27]the time of the prophet this is all there but you come

[36:31]this is a convenient scapegoat to come and blame everything on outside

[36:35]uh on a foreign entity and you come and you don't take

[36:40]any responsibilities and don't throw any blame to the suffering to the

[36:48]division on the early Muslims that existed so here um of course

[36:52]the the funny thing is until today until today they'll come and

[36:56]they'll tell you the Shia they work hand inand with the Jews

[37:01]and they'll come and they'll tell you you hear this on you

[37:06]know many channels they'll come and they'll tell you Shia and the

[37:09]Jews they work hand inand with one another and it's very ironic

[37:11]today that uh you see those governments and those mindsets the wahhabi

[37:18]the salafi the extreme not all sunnis say this the extreme those

[37:24]who do of the sh they are the ones who are normalizing

[37:26]ties with the Z ists and they come and they say sh

[37:31]are the ones who are doing this and Sh and this is

[37:33]the this is the um this is basically the source and the

[37:40]origins of shiaism so when we look at when was the origin

[37:43]of shis let's let's look at this right now when did sham

[37:50]begin with IM Ali on the day ofad okay what else does

[37:57]anyone else say something else what is it during the life of

[38:04]prophet Muhammad so a lot of people when they think of sects

[38:08]when they think of usually they'll imagine during the life of the

[38:15]Prophet there was no sects there was no M everyone was one

[38:20]then after the death of the Prophet M emerged for example in

[38:25]the Sunni School of Malik sh these they came these understandings these

[38:36]are Juris Prudential M sect they emerged 200 years um 250 years

[38:44]after the Hijra of the prophet and these sects were created after

[38:49]the prophet when they imagined shm they imagine that shis also came

[38:56]to existence after the death of the Prophet how however the truth

[38:59]and the fact of the matter is that sham did not start

[39:02]after sham did not start during the time of Imam sad sham

[39:07]did not start by the saf sham did not start during the

[39:12]ABI era sham started with Islam because the holy prophet sallallah alai

[39:17]wasam he taught people while he was telling people say and say

[39:26]at the same time during his life at the same time told

[39:32]people that IM Ali is the leader after him there was no

[39:35]separation from that to come and create a separation to come and

[39:41]create a gap between and and IM Ali this is an injustice

[39:47]against and an injustice against IM Ali and there are many proofs

[39:54]that the holy prophet from day one he when he told people

[39:57]in fact the first time when was the first time gathered his

[40:05]family and he told them about Islam what was that event called

[40:17]the holy prophet when when when the religion of Islam came down

[40:23]upon him when the Quran came down upon him the first three

[40:26]years the holy prophet it was was him khad and IM Ali

[40:31]and probably a handful of people that were believing in the prophet

[40:35]no one else then after three years Allah subhah wa tala tells

[40:38]the prophet and warn your family go begin with your family so

[40:46]go and look up the Hadith now because this is uh we

[40:51]we're going to go through this a little bit quicker we don't

[40:53]we can't come and bring all the sources but you go and

[40:58]you look up the Hadith of this ver the of this verse

[41:00]inni books and in books you find it and you find it

[41:11]in many other sources you come and you see that the first

[41:14]time told people about Islam he gathered his family Abu was there

[41:18]Abu Talib was there abas the uncle of the Prophet many of

[41:23]the family members they were there Hamza was there at that time

[41:27]no one believed him no one publicly believed in him except IM

[41:31]Ali he the prophet he cooked food and then he comes and

[41:35]he tells them who will believe in me who will support me

[41:39]who will follow me this person will be myif and my and

[41:42]my after me the the vice jant the one who is after

[41:46]me they all no one said anything except IM Ali who was

[41:48]young at that time he said me and this is mentioned he

[41:57]tells them and therefore you are my my and my after me

[42:04]so what does this mean this means the prophet while he's telling

[42:09]people at the same time he's telling people IMI is the leader

[42:14]after me so is there a separation is there a gap between

[42:16]sh and Islam there's no Gap believing in IM Ali is believing

[42:22]in the prophet the way the prophet wanted you to believe rejecting

[42:25]IM Ali is not fully accepting the Sunnah of the prophet and

[42:29]not fully accepting that which Allah subhah wa tala came down with

[42:34]in the Quran and here um in another verse in another verse

[42:43]in this term sh when was this term created and who coined

[42:52]this term sh today also you might find many people they come

[42:55]and they say oh the word Shia did not exist it came

[43:00]into existence many years later go and read the verse the of

[43:04]this verse inah 98 in the Quran this verse those who have

[43:17]IM and they do good deeds they are the best the best

[43:19]of the creation one of the Sunni scholars in his book in

[43:37]HISD also another scholar he narrates thisi fromd he says he says

[43:49]we were with the [Music] prophet came he says we were sitting

[43:54]with the prophet Ali walked in he says the prophet he said

[44:01]in front of in front of others he said by the one

[44:06]who my soul is in his hands meaning by God him and

[44:16]his they are the Victorious on the day of judgment so who

[44:22]used the word Shia who is the first who used the word

[44:25]Shia the holy prophet and this verse came down this is what

[44:35]jab is saying while he says while we were sitting with the

[44:39]prophet a verse of the Quran came down those who have IM

[44:48]and they do good deeds they are the best of God's creation

[44:52]this is the this the commentary of Ja he says the companions

[45:00]of the Prophet when comes in a room what would they say

[45:05]they they would say the best of God's creation entered so here

[45:23]in another says you and your the Shia are the best of

[45:30]God's creation so what is the definition of Shia the prophet used

[45:38]this term the prophet multiple times he told people about IM Ali

[45:41]what is the definition of sh follower of Imam Ali and someone

[45:51]who not only follows but someone who believes that IM Ali is

[45:55]greater than the other sahabah and more worthy and more qualified to

[45:58]be followed this is the definition of Shia so today the Shia

[46:02]they believe that IM Ali is is their leader and he is

[46:07]more worthy than the others that doesn't mean that we have a

[46:09]problem with others we have no problem with others but that we

[46:15]just believe that IM Ali is more worthy than being followed because

[46:18]of certain qualities that he had because he was the first to

[46:20]join the religion of Islam because he was the most knowledgeable because

[46:27]of the many qualities that he had now where there sahab from

[46:30]this is to answer the point that sh just came and ex

[46:36]came into existence many years after the prophet were there the the

[46:39]the term sh was coined during the life of the prophet he

[46:44]said were there sh during the life of there were sh during

[46:51]the life of the Prophet right yes there were Shia how could

[46:58]they be Shia while they're Muslim what's the answer to that to

[47:07]be a Muslim you have to be a follower of alali because

[47:12]that is what the Quran ordered and that is what told people

[47:18]so there were Companions of R Companions of that were known to

[47:29]be the sh of during the life of the Prophet they were

[47:31]known to be the sh ofb the the group of alali yes

[47:44]okay who were those companions that were known to be the Shia

[47:50]of does anyone know any Abu was one of them who else

[47:58]AR Amar okay who else Salman mikdad jabber perhaps yes but those

[48:07]were the known ones Salman Abu mdar and then in fact today

[48:18]there's misconception a that only a few people followed alali and the

[48:22]majority of people right away they switched the majority of people did

[48:25]not believe in alibali that is wrong that is a that's what

[48:31]they want you to believe they want you to believe that only

[48:33]a small group of the sahab believed in Al Talib and the

[48:36]majority they said move on don't worry about Al Talib they didn't

[48:41]see that Al Talib was qualified they didn't see that alali was

[48:46]worthy of being followed this is wrong this is very far from

[48:54]the truth in fact the majority of the S of those who

[48:56]were close with the prophet they could be labeled as the sh

[49:03]of alali until polit politics came into play and they were forced

[49:08]to accept something else and this is what historians have pointed out

[49:13]so there were it's not just these four salar MD and ab

[49:19]in fact there were many others Abbas all of Beni Hashim all

[49:23]of Beni Hashim they believed that Al Talib hadah Al Talib was

[49:29]more qualified and hash are not something nothing they were with the

[49:36]prophet they're the family of the Prophet Abbas abdah in fact there

[49:41]is a Muslim historian by the name of and Muslims the one

[49:44]of the first sociologists by the name of IUN you've probably all

[49:49]heard of IB khalon he used to travel and he used to

[49:53]write down about the beliefs and soci he used to stud societies

[49:57]he says a big group of the sah saw that was favorable

[50:05]was greater and they were the sh ofb except when matters changed

[50:14]when politics came into play they they only showed disappointment and did

[50:19]not go too far for the sake of Muslim Unity so what

[50:22]does this mean this means that the majority of the sahab of

[50:27]they saw the Al Talib was more qualified the majority of the

[50:30]sahabah of the Prophet they saw that alib Talib was the one

[50:35]who was most fit to be the leader but then politics came

[50:38]then they saw that it was a life and death issue they

[50:42]saw that a political establishment have has come to power and they're

[50:48]using Force they're using violence and is there proof that they're used

[50:54]for force and violence yes there is uh one of the leaders

[50:59]of the ANS he was killed and they blamed his murder on

[51:04]the Jin um f a few days after the death of the

[51:07]Prophet a perfectly healthy young lady why would she die why would

[51:12]she why would her house be um why would they threaten her

[51:15]house why did why would alali be dragged out of the house

[51:21]so then once force was put into play then a lot of

[51:22]these they said okay you know what I'm not going to do

[51:25]anything why did they not do anything because they saw also wasn't

[51:27]doing anything for the sake of Muslim Unity for the sake of

[51:30]keeping the umah together there is a a scholar by the name

[51:36]of he has a book on the history of sh he says

[51:41]he he writes down he says 133 of were labeled as of

[51:47]so this goes against the misconception that a lot of people have

[51:50]today today even some of the sh they come and they say

[51:54]only a few people believed in Al Talib the majority did not

[51:57]believe in Al that's not true in fact the majority of the

[52:04]sah they saw and for in fact if we want to go

[52:12]with this definition of if you saw that had more knowledge and

[52:15]was more qualified to be a leader then even Abu Bakr andar

[52:20]would fall in this category because they also believed IM Ali was

[52:24]more knowledgeable didn't they he says so even they believe that IM

[52:38]Ali was more knowledgeable but then power it blinds people power it

[52:42]makes people do certain things where even they know that this person

[52:45]has more this person is more is close is more uh qualified

[52:52]but they don't follow this person yes sister so this is an

[53:04]argument that is made does this argument has a foundation no it

[53:06]doesn't IM Ali yes he was in his 30s when the prophet

[53:10]died he was in his 30s but did not make age a

[53:19]criteria the Quran tells us Isa became a prophet when he was

[53:22]a newborn uh IM he was they knew he was more knowledgeable

[53:30]than them they would they would testify to that they knew that

[53:34]he has a longer history of Islam he never worshiped an idol

[53:37]in the Jihad and the knowledge and the all of that and

[53:44]then that argue the argument of age a few days before the

[53:47]death of the prophet he he put out he asked the Muslim

[53:53]Army to go out and join the army of Usama join the

[53:59]army of Usama Usama was the son of Zade Zade was the

[54:05]adopted son of the Prophet Zade was killed Zade died Usama he

[54:07]was a young teenager Usama was a teenager tells the sahabah those

[54:16]sahabah who are in their 50s and 60s Abu Bakr and Omar

[54:19]and all these people he comes and he tells them you have

[54:24]to be under the command of Osama Osama a teenager what is

[54:27]the prophet trying to prove the prophet is trying to prove that

[54:31]age is not an issue if you're qualified you're qualified if you're

[54:34]not qualified then you're not qualified no matter how old you are

[54:37]so so this is an argument this is a misconception that is

[54:41]thrown out there they come and they say Talib was too young

[54:44]that's why they they did not accept Al Talib no this is

[54:50]just an excuse to derail from the truth so even going back

[54:53]to what we were saying there were many Shi and for those

[54:58]who regarded the the definition of Shia as those who saw ALB

[55:01]as qualified then this even applies to Abu Bakr and Omar because

[55:05]they saw that he was more qualified in knowledge and understanding in

[55:11]history of Islam and however the the reality of this D is

[55:15]that people will make decisions that go against the truth that go

[55:20]against morality that go against and this is what happened time and

[55:23]time again until today it happens don't we see it happening that

[55:26]people they know this is the truth but they make another decision

[55:28]we see this all the time we see it happen with the

[55:32]closest of the sahab even those who were sh during when they

[55:38]say that when the attack on the house of fat Z happened

[55:41]one of the first people who took out his sword and told

[55:44]him put your sword away was a Zu Zu he took out

[55:50]his sword and he was ready to defend the house of fat

[55:53]Z fast forward 30 years what happened to Zu Zu waged the

[55:59]war against IM Ali and he was killed in the Battle of

[56:03]Jamal of course IM Ali convinced him and he he left the

[56:05]battle but he did not tell them no he left and then

[56:09]someone came and went and killed him some so people just because

[56:15]I'm sh Now does not mean I'm sh forever sh means I

[56:20]have to constantly prove my I have to constantly prove my Iman

[56:23]just like I'm a Muslim right now but if I if I

[56:26]wake up tomorrow I stop praying and I stop doing what makes

[56:28]me a Muslim I'm not going to be a Muslim anymore so

[56:33]you need to remain with the truth but if we were to

[56:35]if we were to use that argument that whoever saw that Al

[56:40]Talib was more that definition that they saw alali was more qualified

[56:44]than this applies to many people and why were the sh of

[56:50]Ali during the time of the Prophet shouldn't they be following the

[56:54]prophet well being a follower of the Prophet is being a sh

[56:59]of Al and being a sh of alali is being a follower

[57:00]of the prophet and this is why right now when we say

[57:03]we are the sh of IM Ali We are following Imam Ali

[57:06]because we believe he was the closest to the prophet that's the

[57:09]only reason otherwise we're not following something different that IM Ali has

[57:14]that is different from the prophet and and to be fair sunnis

[57:17]they say we follow the sahabah because we believe the sahabah will

[57:21]bring us to the prophet but unfortunately you see that here is

[57:27]where the discrepancies and the problems occur where we come and we

[57:31]say some of the sunnis are actually following the sahabah and not

[57:35]the prophet because the sahabah they did certain things in the religion

[57:39]that are different and that's why today you find different uh Muslims

[57:44]not all Muslims pray the same way why the prophet did he

[57:48]one day pray like this and one day pray like this or

[57:51]as some people say one day he prayed like this it's supposed

[57:53]to be a joke the prophet never did that so what is

[57:58]what is the what is the um the prophet he prayed in

[58:03]one way the prophet he showed them the religion of Islam in

[58:06]one way but today we see differences so somewhere along the lines

[58:11]someone made a mistake someone dered the um we follow IM Ali

[58:17]because we believe he's the closest to the prophet yes sister so

[58:24]we are praying five times too so there is proof there's Del

[58:34]from the prophet and from the Quran as well Allah talks about

[58:37]when Allah talks about the times of prayers Allah mentions three times

[58:54]there are five prayers but are we allowed to join them sometimes

[58:56]times the prophet during his life he joined sometimes he didn't now

[59:00]doesn't mean that we always have to join you do the you

[59:04]do the prayers you could take a break and then you do

[59:07]the other one yesl not all no all Muslims are followers of

[59:19]the prophets but many of the sah they saw thatb was more

[59:23]qualified they saw that he was the most knowledgeable yes well at

[59:37]least 10 years because say the Salah became waj in Mecca in

[59:43]the later years in Mecca how is it possible that IM Hussein

[59:51]the grandson of the Prophet was killed there's when people deviate from

[59:57]the truth they deviate from the truth they say after the battle

[60:00]of Jamal IM Ali he came to Bas and he prayed in

[60:05]the Masjid in Bas so when he entered some of them were

[60:08]sahabah but they did not join him these guys they prayed with

[60:14]the prophet but how many years over 20 something years ago they

[60:19]prayed with the prophet they saw IM Ali praying they say they

[60:24]remembered this is how used to Pray when they saw IM Ali

[60:28]praying it's very easy for people to deviate it's very easy for

[60:35]people to change and is this something that is impossible to happen

[60:38]no look at the Quran the Quran tells us what happened to

[60:40]bani is M leaves them for 40 days he came back he

[60:44]saw they were worshiping a golden calf and Allah had given them

[60:49]all of the Miracles all of the blessings food was coming from

[60:52]the heavens and they started worshiping a golden C is it easy

[60:54]for people to Dev of course he keeps telling them to worship

[61:00]God to believe in God then they started worshiping him and they

[61:04]totally changed the religion why does the Quran talk to us about

[61:07]deviations that happen in religion because this is something that we are

[61:10]susceptible to it's very easy to deviate from the it's very hard

[61:15]to hold on to the truth Allah says there's one path of

[61:26]the truth and you have to follow it so being a follower

[61:28]of IM Ali is being a follower of the Prophet because IM

[61:32]Ali did not deviate from the prophet one of our great Scholars

[61:35]by the name ofd Hussein sh and this book has been translated

[61:38]into English he has a book by the name of meaning means

[61:48]there's a clear order of a ruling this is how you pray

[61:54]this is how you do wo this is what you do and

[61:57]then there means I do meaning God told me to do this

[62:05]but I will do something else said don't pray he clearly told

[62:10]people that but then when comes to power he comes and he

[62:12]sees Muslims this one praying here this one praying here he comes

[62:16]and he gathers them together and he says I'll pray together and

[62:19]then he says this is a this is a beautiful Innovation this

[62:23]is meaning that there's a order and then someone else is giving

[62:30]their own opinion now we someone might come and say okay we

[62:34]have much we have Scholars cannot be meaning that if you have

[62:37]a clear order you can't do when you don't have an order

[62:42]then you try to do isad and figure out what God wants

[62:45]from you what God wants not what I want what I think

[62:48]God wants so here we believe that IM Ali is his path

[62:53]being the sh of that's the path of the truth and and

[62:56]that sh existed during the life of the Prophet what are the

[63:00]proofs the verse of Purity the verse of the verse of verse

[63:27]of the verse of completion of Faith um the verse of the

[63:36]verse of these are all proofs in the Quran that prove the

[63:40]of then you go to theith of the Prophet you are to

[63:47]me like what har was to and many other Hadith many other

[63:56]Hadith from the life of the Prophet sallallah alai so we will

[64:04]come to a stop here and inshallah uh in the next session

[64:11]we will build off where we are stopping and we will talk

[64:13]about the who are the are the wives of the Prophet included

[64:18]in the bit this is one misconception today people come and say

[64:21]the wives of the Prophet are a part of the bit and

[64:24]and um what is our position position towards the wives of the

[64:27]Prophet what is our position towards the sahabah of the prophet and

[64:30]many other misconceptions that exist there so um we will take a

[64:37]stop here if anyone has any questions feel free to ask yes

[64:41]T sounds like right yeah but don't criticize me just kidding no

[64:49]it's always good is there a point where like yes so sometimes

[65:13]sometimes there's something that no benefit comes out of it or they

[65:18]right now for example I come and I bring a a book

[65:24]of atheist argument and I come and I give it to little

[65:29]kids young people who are not at that level of understanding to

[65:32]be able to debate it so our Scholars they come and they

[65:37]say that some books are Haram but those Scholars before they come

[65:39]and say say it's Haram they've actually read those books and they've

[65:43]de defeated those books and they've argued those books but they know

[65:46]that if you throw this out in in the in because you

[65:50]have to be very careful and this is the Hadith I've mentioned

[65:54]this many times the Hadith of IM on the of this verse

[65:59]let every insan look at their food what does the of the

[66:05]IM say like your knowledge where you're taking your knowledge from you

[66:15]have to be very careful so yes for me I'm an adult

[66:16]I know I'm not going to go and eat unhealthy junk food

[66:21]but if I come and I put Haram food in front of

[66:24]a young child he's a Muslim he's a good person I put

[66:26]it in front of him what's that child going to do maybe

[66:29]the child is going to not know they don't know and they're

[66:31]going to come and eat it so yes sometimes it's good to

[66:38]draw the line to put a distinction and not not have 100%

[66:41]access or unmonitored access for everything out there if you're giving access

[66:47]you need to also give give um the proof for it and

[66:51]the and and strengthen them in dealing with the solution dealing with

[66:55]the problems yeah but sometimes some someone might not know better right

[67:11]now as a father as a mother don't you make sure that

[67:14]your children are eating healthy food so there are some people they

[67:19]have will there are some people they have authority over you when

[67:22]they have authority over you they have a duty to protect you

[67:26]yes sister yes that's one of them we'll talk about that next

[67:37]week inshallah yes you're very anxious mallah yes anyone else okay

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