Being Black & Being Shi'a || With Br. Ibrahim Abdul Jabbar

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In the name of Allah,

with everything that is going on around the world and the oppression of the black community surfacing. Br. Hassan al-Qadri wanted to give a voice to one of his close friends Br. Ibrahim Abdul Jabbar to give us an insight to how it is being black and being Shi'a.

#blacklivesmatter #BLM #purifiedtruth

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[0:00][Music] Villa ar-rahman rahim allah allah allah muhammad wa ala muhammad Jill

[0:24]for Adam one and down today we have been given the opportunity

[0:29]in hamdulillah to be talking to one of my very close friends

[0:34]brother Brahim after Jabbar I mean brahim he came from the u.s.

[0:43]to the UK he was staying at a Masjid and so me

[0:48]and a few of the brothers came we saw him there and

[0:50]we just got talking straight away we clicked we went to another

[0:54]modulus stayed up all night got something to eat and then I

[1:01]think we stayed together for a few days right he's here pays

[1:06]really well and the friendship has just been going so I thought

[1:12]it would be good to kind of talk about brother Brahim story

[1:19]he's got a very unique story of course he's a one of

[1:22]the african-american brothers as well so he could tell us what's going

[1:28]on in the u.s.

[1:27]how should we tackle it racism in general racism in our community

[1:34]and so forth so insha'Allah we can you know learn and understand

[1:37]from the perspective of the one that's being oppressed himself so Charla

[1:44]without father drew Salam alaykum Habibi brother Ibrahim why they consider warahmatullahi

[1:49]wa better cards or Habibi house I don't have to laugh everything

[1:52]is good and it's an honor for me to be here and

[1:57]after a very long time I haven't seen you in London so

[2:01]out to come to London I eat the good food with you

[2:03]and have the good conversations and I learned so much about what's

[2:08]going on over there when I was there so I hungry laughter

[2:10]that and thank you for all of the hospitality and hundred left

[2:13]so tell us who is basically who is ibrahim of the jabbar

[2:21]hakeem hundred eleven hundred left well basically first and foremost uh what

[2:27]i would like to say about the one who is called ibrahim

[2:32]abu Jabbar is that I am my brother who is seeking in

[2:36]is to a loss of Hana Ouattara and I also understand that

[2:39]I am just an insignificant servant or striving to be an insignificant

[2:44]servant of Allah subhana WA Ta'ala that's that's in a nutshell what

[2:48]you can say who are you you know I try my best

[2:52]to be a column and you know someone who serves the community

[2:54]as much as I can and you know it's not it's not

[2:59]really much about me that I can say but I have a

[3:04]story about my life and if it's okay you want me to

[3:05]go on to the story really quickly about how everything in hamdulillah

[3:14]so basically you know my father became Muslim which he was a

[3:18]convert you know he was a convert to the religion of Islam

[3:21]and he converted from Christianity to Islam and you know I'm my

[3:30]father's my father second child so you know when my older brother

[3:34]who which his name his name is sheikh salih when he was

[3:40]born when my father was still sunni right from the Sunni met

[3:44]a school of thought but no father convert from Christianity to miss

[3:49]lost to Islam basically when I talked to my father about Iran

[3:54]Talal a my father's name his brother Hussein Ibish Jabbar he was

[3:57]actually the Arabic teacher in Islamic studies teacher here in Washington and

[4:01]were in Washington DC I'm actually currently located in Florida now but

[4:05]um my ex my father very young about it was like how

[4:11]did you become Muslim and my father told me he said that

[4:13]he had questions about like adding you know maybe Allah add them

[4:19]you know all of our grandfather Adam the Prophet I had the

[4:23]money I said I'm he had questions about him and he would

[4:28]go path in the preacher and he would add some questions and

[4:31]say you know like how did the world get populated if it

[4:37]was only Adam and Eve all right and then it was Cain

[4:39]and Abel like what where would be like how did the world

[4:44]get populated was they what a committee this is the questions that

[4:46]yeah like were they committing incest with them how did it come

[4:49]populate it and he said that the pastors which a lot of

[4:54]pastors in the United States you know some of them I you

[4:57]know we're trying to work closely with so that I can you

[5:01]know try to get some things done in the community but one

[5:03]thing that lacks and when you come to leadership and ask them

[5:12]questions about what is certain things in religion if they can't answer

[5:15]them they say things like there's some things that you shouldn't question

[5:19]young man right where is door now really in our school of

[5:22]thought I couldn't beat that one was most knowledgeable one who says

[5:35]he does not know when he doesn't know right for you you

[5:38]don't know just plainly say I don't know you know and I'm

[5:42]we can research it together we can do the technique and find

[5:45]out what's the research on it and then we can come to

[5:49]a conclusion based on the scholars but some religions are not based

[5:52]that way so our mind state thinks totally different from them and

[5:55]I think that I'm loss of honey with other was just inclining

[6:00]my father a bit too towards the truth the path of the

[6:02]truth which was and he asked the preacher back and then he

[6:07]started to ask him other trivial questions that the preacher could not

[6:12]answer so that led him to research the religions and when he

[6:18]came upon Islam you know it just opened up new gates and

[6:23]new doors for him doors out the doors so in the beginning

[6:25]he was very much so he was very influenced by the Sunni

[6:32]way of school of thought because at the time that was like

[6:38]really the only books that were really here you know that was

[6:41]available you know so he he did that for a while and

[6:47]then after that he met up with some brothers and you know

[6:49]is there's so many questions that he had because you know he

[6:52]came through through a path of taki to research some people come

[6:59]through through a path of like idea into our you know they're

[7:01]going through something on to do us they say yes but my

[7:06]father's was talking you know he was like trying to become hopping

[7:09]like a researcher so the thing was he found some brothers that

[7:12]was talking to him and he was saying that if we need

[7:18]witnesses for the kneecap right when we get married the witness for

[7:23]any child I've never hired them on insulin and our beloved grandmother

[7:29]Hawara was a survivor and he said that the brother that he

[7:34]met was from Iran at the time or he was from someone

[7:39]from somewhere that he was you know honest akuto i had bait

[7:42]and he told him he said you know i think that he

[7:45]just gave him an old tradition that he may have learned when

[7:48]he was young but I've never seen it myself you know far

[7:52]as me putting my Yzerman tradition on a narration he said that

[7:56]it was Rasul Allah Allah Allah he where he was son let

[7:58]me not believe he may have told him that it was my

[8:02]the audience today I'm as well so my father was like blown

[8:06]away from that and he said that the words that they had

[8:08]to say to make it I believe a fishing for the merge

[8:14]was a lot my cigar Mohammed Ali Mohammed so my father bought

[8:17]by him being a researcher and knowing Arabic and speaking Arabic because

[8:20]he had taught himself how to speak Arabic and how to read

[8:25]and write Arabic so he went and looked old he knew what

[8:28]it meant because he understand and then he started to his research

[8:32]research and he came upon all of the ayats the ayats of

[8:34]time here you know that's a purification all of those and it

[8:41]just started to open more doors for him right so we meet

[8:45]you when he got on that path or Island Bay today most

[8:46]of them and the school about had bait you know he was

[8:50]he understood the best was that was home for him you know

[8:52]and I believe that many people when they get on the path

[8:58]validates alayhi wa sallam and they see the enormous amount of dua

[9:01]at the rear the the books of like sorry for such a

[9:05]dear and and many more right and they found out about Dwarka

[9:10]ma'am and I've talked to many converts that I asked them the

[9:12]same question what made you you know convert because I'm for unfortunately

[9:16]it was unfortunately and unfortunately fortunately that my father converted when I

[9:20]was very young I think I was about three or four years

[9:23]old when that happened maybe five but I think it was about

[9:26]four years old and you know so mods didn't come from research

[9:31]I got lucky right four or five years old I don't even

[9:37]understand Islam at that point so I'm just doing like you know

[9:39]I call it like parents who talk lead you know just you

[9:44]know just following so but you know I asked the converse that

[9:47]I'm actually married to someone who convert converted and her whole family

[9:51]and it's about maybe about I should say about thirty to forty

[9:57]of them that converted you know to some needs them to schism

[10:00]yes yes her like we're like really like we're like a mosque

[10:03]it ourselves you know my brother me Allah blessing my blood my

[10:16]brother Yousef man may Allah bless him he's actually studying housing right

[10:19]now as well he's very shy about that but I call him

[10:24]Sheikh Yusuf and he his story is unique actually when I was

[10:28]in London Habibi you would never believe this but actually when I

[10:32]was in London I was telling you his story in the car

[10:35]right well and we were both like subhanAllah and talking about him

[10:40]in the car and I was not married to my wife at

[10:42]the point right I didn't even like we were didn't even know

[10:46]about each other like that at that point so when I got

[10:48]back at humber dinner I was telling him that I had told

[10:53]you about his story wants me of my wife got married but

[10:57]this is the thing um with his story was unique and I

[10:59]want everyone out there that's going to be looking at this video

[11:01]in Charlotte to benefit and to be able to use this is

[11:07]tactic what happened was brother who gave him table lead him and

[11:10]gave him dower he came to him very gentle and he told

[11:16]him all of the stories of Caravela live bait o'clock of debates

[11:21]and everything about Ilyich baton gave him the school of thought but

[11:24]he did one thing that was unique he did not tell him

[11:28]a me names he said things like you know well it was

[11:33]a Muslim faction on one side and there was another faction on

[11:36]the other side and you know unfortunately this Muslim fraction transgressed against

[11:43]this one and you know they they ended up you know murdering

[11:46]or you know they ended up killing the grandson of the holy

[11:52]prophet but he didn't tell them who it was right and he

[11:54]continued to give him stories like that and said well you know

[11:58]that the the uncle of the Holy Prophet the the cousin of

[12:00]the Holy Prophet was in the battle with him he didn't say

[12:05]it was keeping amalia answer that right and he told him all

[12:08]the stories and then one day he presented to him a book

[12:11]with all of the stories in it so at that point the

[12:13]seed was already planted he had already figured out that these were

[12:18]good people in his mind yes he's reading the book the book

[12:21]becomes like a guide for him like books like tears of tribute

[12:26]or whatever a book that he gave him right so that's the

[12:29]way that he converted and when he converted naturally he's like the

[12:32]leader of the tribe so naturally everyone kind of followed behind him

[12:36]and they learned from him and now we have maybe about 30

[12:39]to 40 like family members that's like school honey so that was

[12:45]a lot like and I was telling him that I was like

[12:50]yo like when I first talked to him on the phone when

[12:51]I was courting my wife and I had to talk to you

[12:54]know I had to come to him because her father was are

[12:58]actually unfortunately he's sick but he's you know in the hospital and

[13:01]stuff like that so I had to go to whether he's up

[13:04]in age so I had to go to the brother to you

[13:05]know make sure I went about it the right correct way and

[13:07]I was selling them I was supposed to be calling them about

[13:12]his sister and I'm like it's like on the phone coming up

[13:13]like now I'm like one of your biggest fans I watched your

[13:18]I watched your you're reborn story beyond 100 BTD so his his

[13:22]story is actually on reborn for Island Bay TV and people can

[13:24]go check it out his name is Yousef so and hungry laughs

[13:28]you know that was the way that you know that that I

[13:33]felt that after my wife's family went to school on debates and

[13:38]it's been it's been beautiful you know the experience in chocolate Ramadan

[13:43]we all got up in the morning and did Holika Rania I

[13:45]tried to make it as much as I could late at night

[13:48]I'm studying a study in a lab but you know he led

[13:52]us doing that and then we did because of the Kovac 19

[13:55]unfortunately we did the lailatul cutter our mom all together in one

[14:01]house and it was abhorrent to us and then it's like so

[14:04]many children and kids and it's over the generations of us it's

[14:09]just something to see you know say like it's like a village

[14:11]so well hungry like that's what happened with that if I may

[14:13]I'm gonna get back to the story with my dad so my

[14:18]dad basically you know he came over and the school about his

[14:26]age the shear community embraced him so they saw that he had

[14:29]a talent that he could read Arabic very good he was like

[14:34]a Ferrari and they also saw that he could teach it so

[14:36]they asked him to come teach and we went many battles we

[14:40]won't do some you know some sometimes that's kind of relevant to

[14:44]what's going on right now in the US as I was speaking

[14:50]on a zoom what about my my community Sunday maybe 30 to

[14:53]40 elders I mentioned to him that you know like police brutality

[15:00]is not something that's uncommon to me know was my kid that

[15:04]my father taught it that was downtown before he became sheet before

[15:07]he became Shearer and you know the Masjid was going through some

[15:13]type of changes as far as like leadership and what direction they

[15:17]wanted to go in and for some reason there was a big

[15:19]you know big scribe and everything that was going on and the

[15:23]police showed up to put my father and the rest of the

[15:28]teachers out of the school I don't know that I don't have

[15:30]the full story some of my elders know the exact details I

[15:34]know that this mask it was owned by the Saudi Arabian government

[15:37]and still is once someone our family over there so the police

[15:41]come to put them out and you know child in there at

[15:45]the you know they're shouting at the teachers and it's lined up

[15:48]like they're you know about to take over the Masjid and the

[15:50]police went to like hit one of the sisters in the head

[15:57]with her father raised I'm the police broke his arm my father

[15:59]starts to rumble with the police and he's fighting the police outside

[16:03]he has a broken arm then he has to go to court

[16:05]and when he goes to court he's staying the ayah in the

[16:10]Quran I believe in saw a bucket her loss upon without him

[16:12]that he puts veils over their eyes and puts a seal on

[16:17]their heart right and I think that's caught them along other Kalu

[16:20]be him something like that so you know the thing is is

[16:26]that the the officer who had to identify my father was not

[16:30]able to identify him so father always you know use that I

[16:34]used that I end up the Quran whenever you know he was

[16:36]under some type of was some type of emergency with the police

[16:41]right so al hamdulillah it worked for him so the thing is

[16:45]that you know I saw my father getting beat up by other

[16:49]police when I was young actually you know not only like he

[16:51]was only getting be because they incoming a lot of numbers but

[16:55]I saw my father actually beat a couple of them up too

[16:56]so that's something that happened and then my brother me and my

[17:01]brother we witnessed a lot of police brutality against I forget America

[17:07]because ourselves so that happened with my father then from there when

[17:10]he was you know teaching at that school they went to another

[17:14]school which we called the Muslim house that's here that's in Washington

[17:18]DC that was there at the time and a group of brothers

[17:23]from overseas I guess kind of owned it or P I don't

[17:28]know all of the details so please forgive me because I know

[17:30]my community is really detailed so if I say anything wrong believe

[17:33]me I'm gonna catch some flack behind that but at the same

[17:39]time and the family's african-american families were there and you know also

[17:44]we had some immigrant brothers that was alongside what I said you

[17:47]we were there and he had like a school and everything and

[17:51]then you all got up and we moved they moved the school

[17:56]out to Potomac Maryland which is school that's in Potomac Maryland Islamic

[17:59]education center so my father so he would bus all of the

[18:07]kids and drive the bus from downtown in the urban area all

[18:10]the way out to Potomac Maryland which like uh I don't know

[18:16]it's like the distance from like maybe maybe the distance from like

[18:20]well we were driving from that Masjid all the way to the

[18:25]like maybe like 50 minutes right so it took us like 50

[18:27]minutes to get to school every day I went he had to

[18:30]get all the kids round him up take him out there then

[18:32]at the end of the day he will bring them all back

[18:33]to little basically checkpoints to where we would uh the parents will

[18:37]pick up the kids so he started to school for a very

[18:43]long time before he got a stroke and you know when I

[18:45]was growing up I had books like nokju Belaga in the house

[18:48]because of my father right so I'm in the basement reading these

[18:51]words from a memory earlier Saddam and I I couldn't understand it

[18:59]seems like it's simple but it's you know it's not understandable for

[19:03]me so I'm asking my father and my father's teaching me about

[19:07]concepts are like barzakh all kinds of stuff so I'm like wow

[19:10]like blown away you know it's a kid so um my father

[19:15]goes and he goes to he goes to Pune to study my

[19:22]sister my stepmom and my brother my stepmom sisters Shakur rahmat allah

[19:28]they may Allah bless her cuz she passed away like um I

[19:31]think it was last year so um you know that death would

[19:36]happen they went over the comb to study I was supposed to

[19:37]post to go but you know I was a little hesitant my

[19:41]father didn't have the money to take everybody cuz our family was

[19:46]big so you know um I didn't get to go to comb

[19:49]but he would come back and he would tell me about concepts

[19:51]and you know he would always talk about octal and everything so

[19:55]my family was like you know our father was guiding us on

[19:58]a religious path you know and that was really something that really

[20:03]made a difference in my life you know but it it's not

[20:08]like I didn't go out into this you know to the hood

[20:09]and you know meet other people and is good that I'm bringing

[20:14]this up because I think it was a Imam Muhammad at baccarat

[20:17]later on who won one and the message that I met actually

[20:25]the master that I are that are actually working work for in

[20:28]Washington DC for Muslim communities Center for Tucker Lane I'm actually their

[20:33]outreach the community outreach coordinator so one time the one thing that

[20:40]would count as for the state this Sistani came Ayatollah Sistani came

[20:46]to to talk Elaine and he gave a message from Ayatollah huh

[20:51]the representative of say Sistani or say system so no know what

[20:57]kinda one of the representatives for a working day and came and

[21:03]delivered a message to what in in that message is actually on

[21:06]our website I could provide you with the website risk in MCC

[21:14]FT www.ccltss.org you know and as he said I could understand a

[21:29]big you know because I've been going through my little you know

[21:33]my courses in house and everything I can understand the tools to

[21:36]a certain extent but you were saying that the ayah says that

[21:39]teach your youth about the narrations of basically muster that before though

[21:46]was corrupt ones in the world coming corrupting right so I like

[21:50]to like thank my father openly in front of the world you

[21:56]know thank him for introducing me to you know now researchers of

[22:00]eyelid be well my mom my father went to Iran and I

[22:04]was living with family back here at home in America we had

[22:07]one book because we were trying to get his books right and

[22:11]he was back at his books up the storage right because you

[22:13]was leaving his house because he's going around for years sir oh

[22:16]I was trying to get his books and we got this one

[22:21]book that we had in the house that we fought over but

[22:24]we you know we kept it and preserved it I still have

[22:25]it to this day and my family's gonna hear they're gonna be

[22:29]like where's the book but it was a book of narration and

[22:30]we thought it was from email on the audience and I'm young

[22:35]we didn't know that it was also email idea Lavar so it

[22:39]was a book of the maximums and the sayings of imam ali's

[22:42]and and actually this is above all this I was burning that

[22:48]I have behind me because I was looking for better to put

[22:50]up and that was one of the only banners that I have

[22:55]right now right so and hungry and send my Saddam's to email

[22:58]my audio revoir they said I'm and you know and then my

[23:01]so me that's my name so the thing is that you know

[23:08]my father left this book and we looked at that book ya

[23:11]know I was out of the Quran it's like our guide you

[23:16]know this was our guiding light you know you know as they

[23:19]say about one of the Imams that he's called noodle sock you

[23:23]know the light that guides you know that light that guides in

[23:26]the darkness right so you know this is the thing that you

[23:30]know that we had in our family you had that and we

[23:31]had sorry for such a dear ended up you know finally books

[23:35]because back then you're talking about we're talking about the 80s right

[23:39]well I admit eight its 1980 like people now have like massive

[23:44]massive libraries in their homes for the I could be right back

[23:49]then you might get a book here book there so some of

[23:52]the elders and I have to you know thank them publicly as

[23:54]well from our community because they would like preserve one book one

[23:57]notch above Agra they were passing it around to families right oh

[24:00]they didn't have the rest of the books it was no internet

[24:05]right and no way to get the books so oh that's this

[24:10]really like in a nutshell of so many different details and please

[24:12]forgive me if I left anything out about my father he was

[24:14]actually the Arabic teacher in our community and he taught Quran so

[24:20]he taught like kids a lot of students Quran to this day

[24:23]like a lot of them went on to become like really successful

[24:27]people and they still to this day he had his janaza they

[24:30]said some really beautiful things about my father and you know mail

[24:32]also kind of work to either elevate his status and give them

[24:36]a close place but I think I like most of them and

[24:38]in afterlife under that so that was about my father then me

[24:43]you know for me I grew up and you know in that

[24:45]environment you know Muslim school I was a kid for the Muslim

[24:49]school and when my father went off you know we didn't have

[24:51]any big money so when my father went off and I was

[24:55]saying well family in DC you know I had to you know

[24:58]live in the neighborhood you know like it wasn't like I was

[25:01]like okay I'm going to live in Hollywood you had like the

[25:05]burbs you know we were living in you know in the areas

[25:07]you know moving from apartment to apartment living in some of the

[25:11]most dangerous sections in Washington DC you know Southeast DC Northeast DC

[25:18]um so you know how I got around the the you know

[25:20]some of some bad influences and things of that nature but at

[25:24]the same time I kept a loss of kind of with Dada

[25:25]in my heart you know we're all like we all got separated

[25:31]after you left the Islamic education center but we all kind of

[25:35]like you know we missed each other like how you know what

[25:38]I haven't seen I've been able to come to London I'm missing

[25:40]you Habibi you said it's like I'm waiting for that moment so

[25:44]we could like you know let's pick back up where we left

[25:46]off let's get the conversations because through those conversations of a lot

[25:50]of times because your heart is so open we learn so much

[25:55]about each other's cultures about each other as a brother so for

[25:58]me it was a little different because I came up in an

[26:03]icy environment Islamic education center environment Washington DC with him immigrant brothers

[26:08]right most of them were from Iran you know I had some

[26:12]brothers that was from Afghanistan some was from like Pakistan you know

[26:15]I miss them a lot too so I already was like you

[26:19]know aware of like you know being around people that was different

[26:22]than me but at the same time understanding that they were our

[26:24]brothers you know so you know so from that you know like

[26:30]you know I I got into like getting around the the brothers

[26:34]in the neighborhood there was a lot of times and a quick

[26:35]thing that I want to say to prop up about me cuz

[26:38]it's not really you know I'm not a big deal at all

[26:40]you know but the thing is like my neighborhood was real rough

[26:44]so you know was gunshots going on every night you know we

[26:47]had this thing he said we had to sleep to the shots

[26:50]meaning that we had to sleep to the rhythm of the shots

[26:52]right so found like wow you don't know when it's gonna go

[26:58]off but the thing is that you know like a lot of

[26:59]those dudes that were in my neighborhood because my sisters were you

[27:04]know a Muslim so they you know they liked my sisters and

[27:06]stuff like that and I used to be like no like they

[27:09]would come to me talking about you know it would have to

[27:10]be boy or a girl for my sisters I'm like no I

[27:13]didn't even know him like that you know but they would come

[27:17]to me with those type of things and they were they got

[27:20]to the point where they like you know I don't like him

[27:23]right so in my neighborhood you don't like somebody it could end

[27:26]up that that a person could be you know you can get

[27:30]into a physical confrontation with that person and it can lead to

[27:32]gunshots you know when I was aware that but I had to

[27:35]put my life on the line cuz Dee was all my sisters

[27:39]so you know I was saying that to say that a lot

[27:40]of those dudes that didn't like me because I stood in the

[27:43]way of those type of things and other things as well you

[27:45]know like you know you wasn't selling drugs and my ability you

[27:50]know I didn't you know I didn't I I want to like

[27:54]talk about that another time about the conditions and the society's conditions

[27:57]to create people that do do things like that but you know

[28:01]for me I was thinking I was I was thinking about you

[28:04]know my mom and my sisters in them safety so just because

[28:06]they respected me in my neighborhood and they love me as well

[28:08]they would not I cannot do it anyway it wasn't like I

[28:12]was like some type of big bully type of dude like you

[28:15]ain't gonna do that in my in my hallway if they if

[28:16]they converged in my hallway then I would have had to like

[28:19]ask my mom look we got to move you know I mean

[28:22]but at the same time I would tell them like nah don't

[28:24]bring that if I seen one do it cause you know sometimes

[28:27]one may do it and then another Lord make comment the next

[28:29]thing you know it's a pack of wolves at your front building

[28:32]right but you know so in those appartments situations so you know

[28:37]they respected me enough not to do that and eventually I wanted

[28:40]to say this the reason why I brought that out was that

[28:45]eventually I would say maybe about I don't know man maybe about

[28:48]I seen maybe about 60% of my neighborhood become Muslim right and

[28:55]that was a miracle before my eyes because these were people that

[28:59]do it just like telling my sister like you know I don't

[29:02]like that I don't like that in our GGA right I don't

[29:06]like that I was the black african-american did they not get affected

[29:10]by the Nation of Islam on I think yeah the nation had

[29:15]its effect you know on the Nation of Islam had the effect

[29:19]in the neighborhoods but they died about nineties didn't they yeah yeah

[29:26]yeah so the nation had their they had their um you know

[29:31]they had their upward mobility you know like they started to move

[29:36]forward and they started to spread in the 90s but I think

[29:44]the nation was more effective before the 90s well that's why Washington

[29:48]because yeah a lot of people had the elders like they're really

[29:52]all the people like you know in their 70s and 80s that

[29:58]were Nation of Islam that I see down here in the Florida

[30:00]area and and DC area so they were a little bit before

[30:05]that time and you know but at the time of like in

[30:10]the 80s and in the early 1980s early 90s for the Nation

[30:12]of Islam and DC they were doing stuff like they would come

[30:17]to a neighborhood like a neighborhood and I was that I'm also

[30:20]from called Mayfair it's connected to another neighborhood that my family lived

[30:26]in there's a project called paradise right and actually when I did

[30:34]the documentary on e-bay TV the faith behind bars she a prison

[30:39]she is lawmen in the prisons I was in paradise I took

[30:43]him to a two or three products me and shake the team

[30:47]may Allah bless him we were all together in that one and

[30:49]you know we are watch took him through the property to the

[30:54]projects and I talked about how the project is set section off

[30:56]in like miracle court and they had freedom court they had you

[31:01]know something like this a bunch of courts so basically when I

[31:04]was around it and right may fail it and we going on

[31:10]them on the bus the bus was one of the stops that

[31:12]I told you my father bust the children out to the to

[31:17]them to the good school well the area where this where the

[31:19]school was was kind of like a good area so one day

[31:24]when we were really young made to Islam came in that neighborhood

[31:27]that neighborhood we will pick some of the kids up and take

[31:32]him up to the shear school it was like drug infested open-air

[31:35]drug market right so the nature to Islam came in to clean

[31:44]it up and they went out there and they caught some people

[31:47]say he was uh he was a drug user they caught a

[31:51]drug user with like a problem a shotgun yeah and they beat

[31:54]him up on like like on the news so it was a

[31:57]big thing it was a big fear the media was like the

[32:00]Nation of Islam is cleaning up the community and you know they

[32:03]they attacked a man with a shotgun that kind of thing so

[32:06]um you know because they are well known for their like you

[32:09]know martial art tactics and stuff like that so the Nation of

[32:12]Islam has sometimes some some you know things that they've done in

[32:17]the past that was definitely good for the community things like that

[32:21]and their history is uh something that we have to sit down

[32:24]and really do a focus interview again and Charlotte if you would

[32:30]ever invite me back on to talk about them because a lot

[32:32]of their roots people who don't notice it's an article that's out

[32:34]right now a lot of their roots are from to show you

[32:38]and they used a lot of the things from to show you

[32:44]they borrowed from everybody right and they used instead of saying to

[32:48]12 Imams and he just say to twelve scientists and they would

[32:51]give them the car the concept of the Imams and they will

[32:55]talk about Imam Maggie a little tot afraid Sherif but they were

[32:58]talking about him in another context you know I mean and it

[33:02]was saying that somebody else was a mom so they kind of

[33:05]like took the story hijacked it and said some things that to

[33:07]me and my personally I know a lot of them they're on

[33:11]my Facebook page I'm gonna upload this video to my Facebook page

[33:14]if any of them want to sit down and open up the

[33:17]books and we can sit down and talk about you know put

[33:20]a show you here and you the Nation of Islam's Creed there

[33:25]and I can show you what I mean so I don't say

[33:26]it's been a way to disrespect them at all because you know

[33:30]I feel as though that you know we all need to sit

[33:33]down and dialogue and get down to what the truth is really

[33:35]is but at the same time you know they've done a lot

[33:39]of things that was uh that was good for the communities you

[33:42]know as far as like social class do you think brother Brahim

[33:47]like just I haven't been in contact with too many you know

[33:56]african-american Shias but from the few that I have except you but

[33:59]the other ones that I have they it seems like there has

[34:03]been some type of influence from the Nation of Islam like the

[34:07]way that they think operate certain perspectives seems to be there is

[34:12]an influence from them do you think that's that's a correct statement

[34:16]to say you know I think that maybe it's just that maybe

[34:19]you haven't met because I don't know who you meant you know

[34:24]I don't know who you've engaged with like online and we all

[34:27]have a different timeline you know we all have a different newsfeed

[34:33]on social media so I don't know what you've seen but I

[34:36]will say that you know a lot of Muslims who are african-american

[34:42]do you mean African Americans who are followers of the school of

[34:47]a debate or you do you mean in general just Muslim followers

[34:50]of any bait so the Shiites okay yes so that's army could

[34:55]be wrong just like you know I've only spoken to a few

[34:59]engage in a few so maybe aa yet for me like you

[35:03]know I got a I got a we got a um you

[35:05]know we got a communication platform that we're on it's about like

[35:08]maybe about like 12 or 13 brothers like we talk every day

[35:13]my phone it's when I'm talking to you like I my phones

[35:15]like never never charged because we're constantly keeping in contact there's about

[35:19]13 of us right and you know then I told you that

[35:22]going to zoom with the brothers and it's like about 30 to

[35:25]40 of them so I'm in car on top of all of

[35:30]the elders and everything and also in contact with the youth and

[35:32]brothers that's my age I guess we call ourselves adults so now

[35:37]not really like they they don't have any the influence of the

[35:44]Nation of Islam but one thing is that people may misunderstand is

[35:47]that the Nation of Islam did come into the communities and they

[35:51]did offer a perspective or you know our idea of independence was

[36:00]also an idea of separation right but it was an idea of

[36:04]independence you know you know we have to do for us because

[36:08]for us to sit back and think there's someone that doesn't love

[36:12]you who's oppressed you and has these hidden I should say hidden

[36:16]agendas for us to think that they have good and tender for

[36:21]us and it comes out you know you might be with a

[36:25]you know you might be with someone who's from another race and

[36:27]not Muslim wise but you know you at your job and you

[36:31]find out that's something what did your job is calling you all

[36:35]kind of derogatory state you know phrases so for for us to

[36:39]think and one of the things that the nation that it's not

[36:41]did say was that you know you think if you give give

[36:45]the power to your enemy to feed you you're crazy right that's

[36:48]what they say so you know like we have to keep that

[36:53]in mind not only as because it's from the nation to the

[36:56]Islam but some people period as Muslims and as far as our

[37:00]island baby we have to keep in mind like you know we

[37:02]have open enemies and then we have covert it means we have

[37:06]ever closed enemy you know we have people that won't say it

[37:08]but they really look like wanna work at the core of our

[37:13]ideas and work at the core of our leader and try to

[37:15]deteriorate it and make it corrosive and our environment so that's something

[37:21]that we have to just keep in mind overall but they saw

[37:22]a lot of people that's Muslim that's african-american Muslims period and fathers

[37:27]are had be they see that the nation Islam has done some

[37:33]good things you know as a memory after that so that's well

[37:36]said I'm said that you know and I'm pretty much you know

[37:41]kind of like I'm also you get I'm paraphrasing and they had

[37:44]these you know not to the exact word may Allah forgive me

[37:48]for that he said that you know don't look at the don't

[37:53]is saying I don't look at the person is saying look at

[37:55]what they are saying but we do have to remember that to

[37:59]paraphrase another hobby for me man I'm sorry got it yesterday we

[38:04]said that I'm concerned about a people who look for their food

[38:07]to be allowed but not the sources of their element so beautifully

[38:11]all right so we have to keep that in mind as well

[38:16]but when it's wisdom and it's something for the good in this

[38:21]time it's going to show through the people so if they set

[38:23]up stuff like you know lunch programs if they start up stuff

[38:26]like you know they taught their their their wives to and the

[38:29]children and you know the women of their community to respect their

[38:33]husband and to you know cook this kind of food always to

[38:36]be pleasant to them and they had these kind of things then

[38:38]these are things that if it came from the nation if I

[38:43]read it in a book from a white individual you know if

[38:47]I read it in the book from the you know native Indians

[38:49]if I read it in the book from any you know someone

[38:53]that was from Iraq or someone from Iran I will accept it

[38:55]because your heart is one of the shapes that mean you know

[38:59]shake your hair said to me one day when we was having

[39:01]like a quick conversation that I felt like a daughter like a

[39:06]little class and he said when your heart finds truth on its

[39:09]journey it should be inclined towards it all right so wherever I

[39:17]see the truth I will always put that up besides the that

[39:21]and I say well you know we have this in our books

[39:27]as well so yeah a lot of people there it's like split

[39:30]some people they think that yes we should do things like you

[39:35]know that you know the weighted Nation of Islam did on a

[39:38]level of social justice and social activities and you know helping the

[39:42]community and then there's some people who have a difference of opinion

[39:48]you know they think like you know we don't need that at

[39:49]all we just follow the school like they're bait bait has all

[39:52]the answers we don't need anyone anyone else's influences outside and many

[39:57]of the older mouth feel that way so it hump into that

[39:59]so yeah that's that's when it comes to things like I think

[40:05]the way the way I see is all goodness comes from metal

[40:10]baits and what is in line with the ll bait in goodness

[40:13]then there's no problem with it John this time I mean yes

[40:18]we don't take our loom from anyone outside of the school exactly

[40:23]right if there if there's some good social activities being done by

[40:28]someone that said nan joha I see no problem in it yes

[40:29]true Audra I want to get into a bit of the what's

[40:35]the word the more interesting conversations give it less giving no be

[40:42]african-american because I think especially with what is going on in the

[40:46]world right now in America with the protests and you know racism

[40:52]and everything like that I think it's important that we start to

[40:56]clean our houses before we start to clean the streets before we

[41:01]talk against the government and I think within our community there is

[41:06]some racism in there let it be from a behind closed doors

[41:11]let it be from you know cultural perspective let it be from

[41:17]just various different angles I think it's important that we highlight them

[41:22]discuss them and maybe try to find a solution so for you

[41:25]as a African American cheering what is your experience that you experience

[41:33]kind of in the Shia community when it comes to racism and

[41:36]how do we find a solution towards it do you think that

[41:44]very good question a sense for me my experience with racism in

[41:49]the community a lot of my experiences with racism actually came in

[41:55]recent years you know unfortunately there was an incident when some of

[42:04]the brothers now this is not when I say community I look

[42:07]at the community as the whole us because I'm everywhere you know

[42:11]I'm I'm at this time at this lecture I'm at that lecture

[42:16]I Watertown to do or tree at one point before I was

[42:19]studying my little small courses and I was so I'm all over

[42:27]the place so the the I should say the experience it's different

[42:32]in different places well I thought you know even with like Facebook

[42:36]it's a part of it because you know I study social media

[42:41]marketing or inbound marketing and stuff like that a certificate in inbound

[42:47]marketing so with social media plays a role in communities because it

[42:52]could be like it could start as like a conversation when someone's

[42:56]talking about racism and then brothers will start coming in with all

[43:02]these different opinions that's on your friend list and my community is

[43:06]there fighting the people that I grew up with from like when

[43:09]I was like three are there fighting and arguing with brothers who

[43:14]I may not know and it may be a brother that's like

[43:16]living in another state you know I mean you know maybe living

[43:21]in Jersey New Jersey maybe living in New York any thing but

[43:25]he might be a immigrant brother so one unfortunate event that happened

[43:29]one time that I would like to talk about is uh that

[43:32]you know we was talking about racism in the communities and stuff

[43:35]like that and something that one brother had said was very racist

[43:41]and you know I made a mistake of you know kind of

[43:43]putting that on display and I read later when I started to

[43:47]study house of that and you know you don't you don't expose

[43:48]your brother so I could have went about it differently but at

[43:53]the time I was in a reactionary stage and I react I

[43:55]reacted in a way that I put it out there he was

[43:59]talking about so many brothers man so many brothers that you know

[44:05]I really had like respected had it started coming on there and

[44:08]saying different things and it was just one brother he was like

[44:10]really like he was just saying the wildest things ever and he

[44:14]was just calling us all kinds of names you know almost african-americans

[44:19]monkeys dogs you know this and that you know you know you

[44:23]all like you know all alike you know followers of nation in

[44:28]Islam you want to hell you know you Jahannam and you know

[44:32]your car there you know call us liars all kinds of stuff

[44:39]right so these individuals didn't know that I was to know what's

[44:43]up' message where for them right i was i who was there

[44:48]many with some other brothers so when the conversation went from in

[44:51]like they even like start cursing you know you know that started

[44:54]to come out they were like man you know not knowing you

[44:57]and all this stuff and they're all saying like my own brothers

[45:01]that i knew and everything so they took the conversation from social

[45:05]media work from facebook and went into what's up and then do

[45:11]what's up they didn't know i was there so i saw all

[45:13]of the things that they really thought about me and the brothers

[45:18]all right separate disgusting so the things they were saying was very

[45:22]disgusting so I came in and I happened to know which morality

[45:24]they were following and I just mentioned his name I mean I

[45:30]said would he talk like that and one of the brothers who

[45:33]were studying and how was it he said I said you think

[45:38]you so much for standing up speaking up say you are all

[45:41]wrong for your speech the way you talked about these brothers and

[45:47]and I'm even left to go I left it goobers worse so

[45:50]that's one thing how you really feel about me you know that's

[45:54]what I call it right you really feel about me you know

[45:56]like how do you really feel about me do you do you

[46:00]treat me like my hobby houses get me like a brother for

[46:04]real cuz we're real brothers like I'm talking to us and I'm

[46:06]like looking at him like bad sometimes I'm talking to him when

[46:10]I was in London I couldn't you know I couldn't tell if

[46:12]he was black at night I was just like man you got

[46:16]some of the same stories right so we're brothers at the end

[46:19]of the day you know a loss to cuddle without a says

[46:25]in the Holy Quran so when we look at each other as

[46:35]brothers that that's just one instance and it's many more about marriages

[46:39]not for me personally things that I've seen that I've heard about

[46:44]about marriages mad brothers coming to immigrant families for marriage women coming

[46:50]to immigrant families for marriage and some of the things that was

[46:53]said it was just that that's kind of like something that we

[46:56]have to like deal with that another time but these are these

[46:59]are some of the things that we have to deal because before

[47:01]we can get they get to the the cure we have to

[47:07]know what I you know diagnose what the sickness is right no

[47:10]Juan's is in a different stories but one of the things I'm

[47:15]some of my wife did is that you know you have to

[47:19]have I believe that one of the the main medicines and the

[47:22]main cure she found for this situation it's not done right you

[47:29]have personal learn for your brother first and foremost because allah subhanho

[47:33]wa taala does not look at it look at us in colors

[47:35]a loss of power that Allah sees us and in in in

[47:41]piety which level of Part C Oh God God awareness consciousness so

[47:49]we have personal then I'm not gonna think there's not always a

[47:58]case of new brothers it might be a brother that's been around

[48:04]for years but he's been programmed by media to think that because

[48:08]as we see those music videos the immigrant community are seeing those

[48:13]same in music videos so he sees someone talking about drugs talking

[48:16]about sexualizing everything he sees people swimming with no clothes on he

[48:23]sees all these kind of things from the african-american a certain certain

[48:32]tier of people or a certain wealthy group of people actually really

[48:37]making the money off of this person who entertained because really thinks

[48:44]he's doing it's entertaining the worst so they put that out as

[48:49]the meaning to money yes I don't promote hip-hop you know at

[48:58]one point I was a hip-hop artist you know well I don't

[49:00]promote it I you know I live a different life now you

[49:03]know I you know trying to dedicate my life to serving Allah

[49:05]subhana WA Ta'ala and it doesn't fit in my life but you

[49:10]know hip-hop did not always start with a message of shoot him

[49:13]up kill him women drank dancing naked and stuff like that it

[49:19]was hip-hop artists who actually had messages that some of us don't

[49:22]notice some of our big ol Imam you know like from the

[49:25]african-american community they've got interested in Islam because some of the rapper's

[49:30]was rapping about Islam back in the 80s right so not to

[49:35]say that that's the reason but my point is that you know

[49:37]when we see a bad and everything I was when I was

[49:41]in Iran that will say where but I was in Iraq I

[49:44]was talking to somebody who Lamar and they told me to approach

[49:45]the rappers they wanted me to give the rapper's dollar and then

[49:48]rappers come out and talk about the school babe they said it

[49:54]will be more effective right these are a big ol emo right

[49:56]so I think that approach right there should be the approach when

[50:03]we when we look at other people's culture so having personal van

[50:06]about a people you know having personal done about your brother having

[50:10]a sister having Herstal done about her sister thinking the best about

[50:14]that person instead of coming and then thinking that all may you

[50:19]know because of this person's culture just imagine it may be a

[50:22]person that's ever gonna marketing you can't stand eating be my right

[50:26]if maybe a person that's you know Iraqi they can't stand fried

[50:29]chicken right it may be a person that is Iranian or Pakistani

[50:35]that cannot you know doesn't like pancakes right and that gets equated

[50:41]to like in certain situations like oh you know they eat this

[50:44]and they smell like this you know and everybody whatever season you

[50:49]eat whatever you know grease is you eat you've got a smell

[50:51]a certain way from that because it it comes out of your

[50:53]pores but Allah subhana WA Ta'ala created that season you know so

[51:00]we have to like start to get down to you know it

[51:02]comes down to your preferences you know people say oh I prefer

[51:07]to be around my own crowd and I was they about this

[51:10]question earlier because one of the other curious after hustle done is

[51:15]to try to travel outside of your own yeah so you know

[51:26]like when people Haasan you're free to go ahead and come in

[51:33]you know in chime in whenever you ready you don't mean because

[51:35]I wanted to learn more like a dialogue for both of our

[51:40]you know huh I said it's more about you so we kind

[51:43]of wanted no I know I know so you know but you

[51:47]know like we we have to travel outside of our own personal

[51:50]circles or influence I see and I know we gotta be careful

[51:59]as a Muslim period in America in any way you are you

[52:02]have to be careful because everybody doesn't mean good for everyone you

[52:05]know I mean but we have to travel outside of our circle

[52:07]influence and we have to all meet each other you know and

[52:11]we have to meet each other in a way that you know

[52:16]it's very intellectually beneficial to each one each for each first you

[52:21]know everyone has something to offer you know I think it was

[52:23]a I beloved one of the shapes here yeah and he was

[52:26]saying that it was a group of brothers who met and they

[52:28]will meet up and another I think it was in the Middle

[52:32]Eastern country I forgot which one and he said that before they

[52:34]would leave strength in the Brotherhood they would all say to each

[52:38]other every person well you know it's you know by heart or

[52:44]not I think they were in houses away and he said every

[52:46]person make sure you you know say a narration before you leave

[52:52]right you know and then if they want to take spiralled on

[52:56]that narration they could what it meant to them you know without

[52:59]debating and that was a bonding mechanism right you know imagine sitting

[53:04]with brothers that you're looking at him like man you know you

[53:08]know like when I look when I sit with the Iraqi community

[53:09]I want them to know this I know I study I currently

[53:15]study what happening in Europe from years years ago like like back

[53:20]in the 60s all of the I study what happened in other

[53:26]Middle Eastern countries I study what happened in Africa so when I'm

[53:30]studying these things I'm looking at you from that context like while

[53:33]you're people went through all of that and look at you you're

[53:36]right here shining with me right we're living in the freedoms that

[53:40]are there are people fought for right so when Nazi my brothers

[53:46]that's how I see them in the event of having that good

[53:48]opinion of them like you know I know I know where you

[53:53]come and you know I don't know what firsthand but I know

[53:58]I sure do you like you feel the Shia community doesn't give

[54:03]opportunities to black brothers black Shia brothers of course huh I said

[54:11]do you think they put blockades in front of like the blackboard

[54:15]they don't give them the same opportunities to succeed as you know

[54:21]I don't know Arab Iranian or Pakistani and so forth compared I

[54:27]was not compared oh well it's just more about things that make

[54:33]it difficult for you as an african-american you know how black Shia

[54:38]um this is the thing like so with that it's like again

[54:46]it goes back to traveling outside of your circles of influence number

[54:51]one because number one a lot of them might not even come

[54:57]around us all right like us we have a Masjid back home

[54:58]or a sensor that's managed you know you know predominantly by african-american

[55:03]it's not an african-american center everyone's welcome you know because the house

[55:10]of Allah belongs to the homeland right so you know but it's

[55:13]just managed by a predominantly african-american and it just happened like that

[55:17]because we all knew the families and you know it was a

[55:18]particular brother who in different people that he knew that put up

[55:23]the money and then just hop up in that way that we

[55:25]formulated the board and everything in we all knew each other and

[55:27]like okay so who's ready to go to work type of thing

[55:32]right so what the Iraqi in the US I don't know about

[55:37]in London a lot of this stuff is based on you know

[55:38]like boards like 501c3 nonprofit boards right so you got a board

[55:45]of a minister board of administrators a board of director and you

[55:48]go to a Masjid that's Iraqi like managed and it's no african-americans

[55:53]on the board you know for years come on like this is

[55:59]like 30 years of this right now start the overnight and you

[56:02]know then you come and you you know you go to different

[56:07]places in this is happening you know maker you know Pakistani Center

[56:12]doesn't have anybody african-american on the board Pakistan doesn't have anybody even

[56:20]nobody evening like Rocky Allah ball because you have the code you're

[56:25]sentencing the coaches are like I know I watch documentaries where they're

[56:28]like open to you know saying it out that you know if

[56:33]you're not a culture you can't you can't be like you can't

[56:35]you can't be like a decision making in their community right so

[56:39]I don't know that comes from as far as like you know

[56:44]how back to school I had a time even I didn't do

[56:50]anything like that but that's that's something that so I'm not speaking

[56:55]against coach there are a lot of beautiful kosher brothers I love

[56:59]their culture I love them but these are the things that happen

[57:02]you know and you know when we look at like they're you

[57:07]know the african-americans like having the opportunity to speak I'm gonna tell

[57:12]you something that really hard to speak on this the communities here

[57:16]and this needs to be fixed and I'm saying me brother Ibrahim

[57:20]I'm coming out you know I stand behind this that this is

[57:25]something that needs to be fit and I think I'm saying it

[57:27]right when you know in the days of Ramadan they say it's

[57:31]not God's and Benny right that the you know relationships between two

[57:35]people who are seeing difference needs to be fixed in training so

[57:40]I say that just say that you know a lot of times

[57:46]in the US and there'll be times when they want someone to

[57:49]come speak about issues like racism or so and they'll go to

[57:54]the school of a little sooner and go get someone from a

[57:57]lotion to go to school speak and I'm in contact I would

[58:02]maybe about 60 or 70 brothers that are african-american that I share

[58:08]what they did the what do you call it the some of

[58:14]the some of the sensors will go get someone that's from another

[58:19]school of thought to go speak about our issues come to us

[58:27]maybe maybe then I coming to us to get come and speak

[58:30]because they feel like they have may have been a part of

[58:34]that racist and they they're scared that is you know the person

[58:36]glue say something it's not you know it's not politically correct at

[58:42]the right we gotta fix that and if you scared that somebody's

[58:44]gonna get up and say something that's not politically incorrect fix it

[58:52]huh I'm saying it's important to teach them just education is everything

[59:00]yeah definitely so that's what I want them to know is like

[59:03]you know because now I'm hearing a lot of things that they're

[59:05]trying to fix cuz they're recognizing it and that hold up in

[59:09]like the same thing is you you were saying about you know

[59:10]the parent that we should take we clean up our own backyard

[59:15]before we go out to preach to everybody else about no races

[59:18]in the minutes long yes Islam has no racism well unfortunately between

[59:22]Muslims there is racism you gotta be clear about that you know

[59:25]like they would say and some of the guys in the neighborhood

[59:29]that was following the the church they would say I'm glad I

[59:31]met Jesus before I met the Christians you know Jesus before I

[59:40]was introduced to the Christians and I would say to people I

[59:44]hope that you read about the rock in the dead of Rasul

[59:49]a lost soul along while he was solemn in a Muslim and

[59:51]the way of Imam are the earliest long before you meet some

[59:57]years because I don't want you to be influenced that he is

[60:00]is to the perspective of that person because we followed the Imams

[60:04]not him not that person these are fallible individuals these are fallible

[60:08]human beings we follow an infallible human me you know so that's

[60:13]something that I would like to you know say to the censors

[60:17]is that mean of our own backyard this you want people to

[60:20]come talk about issues about racism we have some very highly qualified

[60:26]people that can talk about racism and then you have other people

[60:28]who have their own experience and what they experience through racism and

[60:33]we have to hear about the stories to correct it you know

[60:37]you have to know is the island based on a human so

[60:39]now say about those types of stories there's one individual I know

[60:42]and I asked him to put up a video cuz I didn't

[60:46]know how to crop the videos for YouTube you know you could

[60:52]take a clip from a lecture and it was a it was

[60:54]a say it who was talking about all he might have been

[60:57]shared with are people say it was talking about the times of

[61:02]remember someone came to a member of our audience a nominee said

[61:04]to him you know you should sit with these people why you

[61:07]where you eat and some of them were black you know servants

[61:12]at the time and he said we all come from one farm

[61:16]see so this is the perspective of our Imam our moms many

[61:23]many people know that they went and they married African women right

[61:27]but then we come in the community and it's like you know

[61:32]you say something like that in the community like what you trying

[61:34]to say all the Imams was black right no one said that

[61:38]oh boy is talking about equality and we're talking about equitable relationships

[61:42]you know not something that's like you know all you just my

[61:47]black friend you know that's kind of thing like I could tell

[61:49]like when me and you clicked up it was like it was

[61:52]just like man I want to take this dudes about hood you

[61:53]know like oh let's say this dude home with me this guy

[61:57]gotta go back to my community man we could really make some

[62:01]bloch-bauer I think I'll go to the streets man house it is

[62:13]very you know this was before the YouTube channel and everything right

[62:16]so I had that kind of like you know that inside looked

[62:20]it was like like I know he's gonna do something because I

[62:22]could see that your mind was correct I could see the way

[62:26]that you were leveling with me that's what we call it here

[62:28]I'm a level with you know I'm gonna get down and keep

[62:33]it 100 you know honey well you know imma keep it 100

[62:35]with you like you know this is what's going on this is

[62:39]how it is Habibi and I could see the sincerity in your

[62:41]eyes when you were talking to me that you were treating me

[62:45]like a brother no and that's what we have to do so

[62:46]that's something that we have to do when it's time to talk

[62:49]go get the african-americans who went through this struggle we got elders

[62:55]we got like man like three generations or four generations now african-americans

[62:58]that's you know that's been following the path a big go get

[63:03]them and put them on them put them in front of that

[63:06]podium and make sure you put them up there every time so

[63:08]that when people can get it one thing I tell people a

[63:11]lot of time is that you know is well known the real

[63:12]school law so anyway I saw them talk Tauheed for 13 years

[63:20]in Medicare right because if you teach something one day and you

[63:25]know there's two type of ways of learning nowadays you have this

[63:31]way that's like it's teaching censured and then it's learning center all

[63:35]right we got a look that freezed up is it's out there

[63:36]it's a method of teaching and learning sensitive it's different you know

[63:41]like the kids are involved in the learning right you can ask

[63:45]a lot of people nowadays okay you know you went to uh

[63:49]Juma was the TV thing was the shakes a and they can't

[63:57]because it's a moment and we have to transform transform these moments

[64:02]and to actually having it as a way of life but so

[64:06]that we can absorb what is people saying because right now it's

[64:08]a trend everybody's talking about it everybody's like man racism racism racism

[64:11]in America what is going on in America how can we fix

[64:15]it how can you but what happens after it dies down and

[64:17]the next thing happens right you just talked about coab in nineteen

[64:22]all of a sudden nobody's talking about clover 19 right so you

[64:26]know we gotta make sure that this is not just a spark

[64:31]because something's up spark but then we have a way of making

[64:32]it a way of life and as some as Muslims and as

[64:37]the follicles of our data in Mosul are we should be searching

[64:42]for a way for everything to become a way that we are

[64:44]all living a God centric life well Allah subhana WA Ta'ala is

[64:51]involved in with every matter of every decision that we make and

[64:54]every meal that we make me say Ya Allah allow this to

[64:58]make bring me could about 1000 Allah close to you you if

[65:00]you're mopping the floor for your family you make the correct me

[65:04]you're giving food for your family you're working for your friend in

[65:09]the normal acts that you do come become a bad they become

[65:11]like worship and it becomes a benefit for you so the these

[65:16]are the type of african-american brothers our brother Hassan has as a

[65:19]friend and if you were to reach out you could have a

[65:21]pretty bloody back to you know so head like this is my

[65:25]mind statement when I'm on houses page you know house I'm like

[65:28]wow look look at this hadith he's you know what I'm looking

[65:32]at you I'm like you know what I might be sending you

[65:33]a damn you know and I'm like that reminds me to Heidi

[65:37]for mutton busting you know we're going back and forth talking about

[65:41]Mariah so we we're normal I think there's so many taboos that's

[65:44]out there like one speaker that was from London he had like

[65:46]a lecture than I own on YouTube and he said the misconceptions

[65:55]about sheer Islam right here he went and talked about all of

[66:01]the misconceptions that people hear that we worship Ali given the avatar

[66:05]a memory audience Alam which is absolutely the first sin in the

[66:09]greatest things is shirk none of us worship in an ariane incident

[66:14]we're not all to be left you know and i want to

[66:15]clear that up because I know the Sunni community is going to

[66:19]see this video right you know the second greatest sin is yes

[66:22]despairing in the hope and mercy of Allah that we serve in

[66:26]the mercy of a loss of power Dada you know you cannot

[66:30]be spared in the mercy of Allah so we have a set

[66:34]of in the school of our third baby have a set of

[66:36]greatest sins just like other schools of thoughts have a Rita Saenz

[66:39]but the thing that brings us and I'm not gonna say together

[66:44]you know like you know like that but I'm gonna say the

[66:47]thing that we agree on is that the first rate ascent is

[66:52]shirt this is the greatest sin we all agree on that right

[66:56]so I think that if we as a people also start to

[67:00]focus on you know it's through the school of our eyelid beta

[67:05]a muscle on and seeing that the difference years in the community

[67:08]if we start to focus on what we agree upon we agree

[67:10]upon that whether you Araki whether you you know from iran whether

[67:16]you're from any other place whether you're indo-pak whether you're deci wherever

[67:22]you're from we all say what after we say oh man I

[67:24]ain't in the law oh man that you can tell you saloon

[67:28]another nebby yeah are you had latina Avenue Sunday he was something

[67:31]to sleep out we all and unisons one voice a la muscle

[67:37]um I'm Eddie well ideally for example we all believe in the

[67:41]12 Imams we all say the son of water on the prophets

[67:46]of Allah water he where he was Sunday we all do what

[67:48]we all stand for our beloved hood you took Muhammad indeed a

[67:52]little down I felt just he put our hand and I ate

[67:56]and we salute him we all do these things together but one

[67:58]thing that one of the Sheikh said here that I loved so

[68:02]much and I go to his master and I learned from him

[68:05]a lot he said will Islam happens off the mat so I

[68:09]say this to my wife and the different people that I speak

[68:11]at certain events I say to them if you're walking a Masjid

[68:18]and you're trying to judge the quality of piety right of a

[68:22]magazine I'm trying to find a home matter if you walk in

[68:26]the message and you just a tad bit late with you shouldn't

[68:29]be whether you're tad bit late and you see everyone standing and

[68:33]so not everyone looks clients at that moment all right the whole

[68:37]do I'm the closer lot after salat is over you know the

[68:41]salat is over you do the son of Arts they do the

[68:44]tummy he bites they do the normal do a throughout the salon

[68:46]you know and they do everything and then the brother goes to

[68:48]you you shakes your hand and says Salonika a hotel hopefully hopefully

[68:52]in essentially do that for you right that's another thing that we

[68:55]got a work one in the it's loud to fixing it so

[68:57]you don't think this is a great messaging but the real is

[69:05]slam happens outside of your salon because salon is a watch if

[69:08]it has to happen it's something that every believer must do but

[69:14]then in the o'clock between the two as we had our beloved

[69:17]which I know I know you know him sick I you when

[69:21]our series and the topic that he talked upon which I'm hungry

[69:25]that one of the brothers shows this is our faith brings us

[69:33]together but our o'clock keeps us together to tangle up so the

[69:36]thing is that when you were not really practicing your eyes lock

[69:42]you understand that will suit a loss on a long while in

[69:43]you I do a southern has a hadith ways and I'm paraphrasing

[69:49]again when he says then to detest arguing with your brother right

[69:51]and if two brothers become into two and me and you talked

[69:55]about this before the two brothers becoming to like a a situation

[69:59]where they're feuding the one who comes to the other brother for

[70:02]forgiveness first is the stronger one all right and there's nothing is

[70:10]nothing that's more beloved I lost a part of what is to

[70:13]forgive you you forgive your brother in faith you know so al

[70:17]hamdulillah these are the ways that we have to say let me

[70:22]mimic the way the eyelid bait was you know I like to

[70:25]tell the story a lot because this is just like we didn't

[70:27]have a lot of the books back in the day that'll send

[70:31]you in my father's time with the with the books in the

[70:33]internet wasn't here and everything nowadays we don't have we have we

[70:41]have a nice amount of you know translated lectures but we need

[70:47]more lectures that's translated from arabic to english more lectures that's translated

[70:53]from Farsi to English but one do head share there was a

[70:55]chair I know that was on YouTube in a chef hat is

[71:01]a short clip that he did about the clock of Imam Sajjad

[71:05]Elias I want to make sure I said this because this goes

[71:08]along with our flaw keeping us together and this is how Imam

[71:13]Sajjad answered I'm dealt with someone that was a anyway enemies in

[71:17]him and this was my Ron he came to the door of

[71:21]email said Jonathan incident and was not gonna this door because he

[71:24]could not get a house from anyone in the rock now man

[71:28]do we have to step back a little bit before this happened

[71:31]to marijuana he was in power and he blew up the house

[71:37]or firebomb the house of Imam Sajjad peninsula right and when that

[71:43]happened you know may Allah forgive me if I'm saying the wrong

[71:45]a man but I believe it was he meant Sajjad at the

[71:49]time to marijuana right yeah so when that happened he came to

[71:52]Iran because he went out of power and then you know I

[71:56]think there was two millions told him to lay low we're gonna

[71:57]give you a little bit of money but lady old times are

[72:00]not gonna be good for us so he went to Iran he

[72:02]was looking for a house he was on the streets and he

[72:04]was running around and he was like you know somebody's gonna give

[72:09]me a house and he pulled his sword out and someone laughed

[72:11]at him was like put the sword away you're not empowering him

[72:13]you don't get yourself killed he said the only one that you

[72:17]can go to to get that house that would even have that

[72:19]available for you right now is he's a magazine alive Adina s-salam

[72:25]right so he went to imam zain al-abideen ELISA Lam's home and

[72:29]he knocked on a door oh I think it was a Medina

[72:35]oh he was in Medina yes okay that humbly left for correct

[72:39]view on that so he went to his home and knocked on

[72:43]the door and when he went to the door his servant came

[72:48]to the door said oh my and went back and told him

[72:50]answer John who were worse he mounts a job put on his

[72:53]they say he put on his like slippers and ran to the

[72:57]door and asked him how can I help you all right so

[72:59]when he got to the door and asked him how can I

[73:04]help you little Medawar said to him with his head hanging low

[73:09]he said me and my family need a home and I'm paraphrasing

[73:11]a story a little bit for it so please forgive me and

[73:15]he said to him he said the amount of st.

[73:17]in Aberdeen this is a lack of a debate he said to

[73:23]him do you want to live in this home or do you

[73:26]want to live in another home that I have in the outskirts

[73:28]of the city all right now here's a big lesson in that

[73:35]you know he also told me said this home I suggest to

[73:37]you not to live in this one because it's old it has

[73:40]some creaks and cracks and some leaks and maybe this may not

[73:44]be the best home thing but the other home on the outside

[73:46]of the city I think it would be better better for you

[73:49]in a fit Wow number one he knew with his vecina that

[73:51]if he stayed there the people in that town that it was

[73:56]not on the outskirts would have helped him and and harassed him

[73:59]and laughed at him and made fun of him right and hurt

[74:04]him all you blew up his house and now you had to

[74:06]come to him to get her home right it would have made

[74:10]fun of him that's just the way of people right and number

[74:13]two he him when he said like if there's someone who was

[74:20]won at revenge and someone's asking him for home he could have

[74:24]easily said yeah you remember how she blew up on the outskirts

[74:29]Earth Scouts to the rock rock I was close to the city

[74:31]you remember that home you got that home yeah the one you

[74:36]blew up yeah that one like you know because sarcastic with him

[74:39]right and said you can live in that home instead you never

[74:43]mentioned it not in the story that I saw and an election

[74:46]never mentioned it he just said that home will be better for

[74:51]you and you have family because it's been Wheaton a newly done

[74:54]over and it'll be a great home for you you know but

[74:59]then we come to our communities and let's say a brother who's

[75:04]not your enemy has never blown up your home all right it's

[75:09]done nothing but come to the mansion and soul showed you nothing

[75:11]but grace and love and beauty in and then you know the

[75:14]beautiful son of us and the beautiful sonam's and greetings you know

[75:19]given to the community when he did have he gave us Idul

[75:22]Fitri he paid as the captain fitted all of that but then

[75:26]he comes and he goes through hard times and when one of

[75:28]the sheiks here to me you both know he's now living in

[75:32]a car he taught me this very very very early stage of

[75:36]my development Islam he said even our hanging and he told no

[75:40]actually he said it in front of the whole community he said

[75:44]for Yamuna Jimmy said it's so sad and it slam when someone

[75:49]needs something you should run to them because the nemah and they're

[75:55]in and in the reward right from a loss of son without

[75:58]it is in you helping them but unfortunately we see someone that

[76:05]needs help these days what do we do we won we won

[76:07]the other way because society has become in a sense in a

[76:13]way you know like one of the brothers Africa the marketing brothers

[76:16]had shared with me he said Ibrahim he said be loved it

[76:19]it's supposed to be I'm gonna go to Mount but not yell

[76:25]at monka he said nowadays is I'm a bitter not yet Monica

[76:30]you know and he say it's backwards people are supposed to be

[76:36]enjoying what is good and forbidding would eat what is evil but

[76:39]nowadays people are actually enjoying what is evil and forbidding what is

[76:45]good he said enough said now I thought that was profound for

[76:50]him to say that to me right and he's actually studying now

[76:52]and may Allah bless him to you know be on the path

[76:56]of tolerable ESMA and he can you know you know you know

[76:57]thrive and you can come back and be beneficial and serve as

[77:02]a life for our community and so as many of the brothers

[77:05]from you know the African American community to studying housing now you

[77:08]know it's one it's like a group of us that went before

[77:12]we have a lot of islands who are here you know what

[77:17]I'm not gonna say a lot we have a nice amount of

[77:18]islands we need more you know we need more so that the

[77:23]community can be you know have that access because I'm pretty sure

[77:25]they're islands I know our you know there's actually i rewired the

[77:28]same you know like shake them up bother the islands right but

[77:32]you don't do it too much you know and everything but i

[77:34]call them a lot about a lot of matters and i know

[77:39]they're swamped you know i mean so we need more we need

[77:40]more and i think that when people see the community in the

[77:46]correct light then they know that uh you know they they can

[77:49]see that oh these are good brothers they're good brothers they're good

[77:52]to their families you know and that's that's the real big thing

[77:55]like we're all regular people you know we just win just one

[77:59]people a law says why is he gonna be humble ad Jimmy

[78:01]uh hold on I'm sort of also kind of Atalla all together

[78:04]we're one people you know omote Awad that you know we're one

[78:10]with one OMA but at the same time we have to act

[78:11]like it you know like he said like it shakes head no

[78:15]he said he doesn't really just he doesn't you know he doesn't

[78:18]favor just too outwardly pious people like we had this lab asset

[78:24]top right you know but at the same time what is going

[78:25]on in the inner just like so some people you know the

[78:30]compared to the Bassett aqua we have some people that go out

[78:32]and have the fancy cars you know they have the the the

[78:36]fancy cars they have all of the you know the the big

[78:37]home but in reality you have found out about people who have

[78:42]all of that and then you find out that they're depressed why

[78:45]because true sada is they inside out approach not outside in approach

[78:53]those things are external then the D Bastion chuckle I was selling

[78:56]one of the brothers that I knew he said man I'm gonna

[78:57]get you a mama and you know and I know how to

[79:01]wrap it I said brother for me on the path of studying

[79:06]the clothes is the last level that's the last thing I said

[79:10]I know people that went to housing I'm not I'm not promoting

[79:15]this or saying people should do this but I know people that

[79:17]went to house that became on the level that they finished their

[79:20]first level of optimize you know and they were able to put

[79:26]on the my mom and didn't put it on because it was

[79:29]like this no that's not my path for what it may be

[79:30]may be I'm not saying that's what I'm gonna do but my

[79:34]point is I'm not doing it to put on my mama and

[79:37]feel like oh I'm just gonna come in and and be like

[79:39]hey you heard on hey you hell out you know that's not

[79:42]me I come in to be your brother I'm here to be

[79:47]your brother to be that brother for you that when you call

[79:48]me a two o'clock in the morning and say man they got

[79:51]me pulled over I'm scared I'm gonna jump in my car and

[79:53]I'm coming to make sure it's you okay I'm gonna call the

[79:58]organizations that need to be call ACLU or whoever else right and

[80:00]tell him look my friend scaling the highway I can't get to

[80:04]him fast enough to the DA one time it was a it

[80:06]was a family that's here made from the islands and one of

[80:12]the women in their family had winters your honor and this he

[80:16]went to some other countries like you when she went the hard

[80:19]to that year so she was doing a lot of traveling so

[80:20]they grabbed her at the at the boy I think it's the

[80:25]TSA or something like that so immediately I knew the organization that

[80:29]handles that so they were like you know they were frantic they

[80:33]were trying to figure out what can we do what's going on

[80:35]cuz they had her for like maybe like you know from like

[80:38]12 o'clock in the evening 1 o'clock in the evening she's like

[80:41]9 o'clock at 8 o'clock at night it wasn't releasing her and

[80:45]you know and hunger that I was thinking quick and I was

[80:48]telling my told my wife I said cuz my wife is like

[80:51]really good friends of her and her family I said look call

[80:54]this organization and I'ma said over here so that people know it

[80:57]didn't show a lot to be a benefit for people I was

[81:00]like call care so my wife knew someone that knew someone that

[81:06]was in the inside of care organization and they got on the

[81:10]phone with that person and that person went and went to the

[81:14]to the listening to the airport and they released her right I

[81:18]want to be your brother on that level when you're in a

[81:21]in a tight situation I'm there for you when you when you're

[81:26]celebrating and you feeling good we can just talk about how does

[81:28]everything Habibi like how can we make more how can we increase

[81:32]right so I want real brother I seek real Brotherhood and as

[81:37]I told one of the sheiks that I have to constantly talk

[81:39]to there's like family to me I was like you know inshallah

[81:44]when the brothers you know all wake up and we all start

[81:45]getting on that path for spiritual awakening I said you know it's

[81:50]gonna be a sight to see it's gonna be something beautiful for

[81:53]people to see man and and and one thing that they say

[81:58]about the african-american community is that you know we're very welcoming we

[82:03]are very hospitable people so I just want to put on some

[82:06]positive energy right now in the right that you have sometimes and

[82:12]that's why I didn't want basically our you know discussion to be

[82:19]kind of more negative and oh because you know we both know

[82:22]there is some type of racism within the Shia community yeah and

[82:27]I think that but I think you kind of the way that

[82:29]you put forward was very nice and turns us and you didn't

[82:33]just keep it negative you kept you ensure that how do we

[82:36]approach you what should we do which is good but I wanted

[82:40]to kind of gonna take up too much time because it was

[82:42]good for about hour and twenty minutes but just briefly what's happening

[82:51]in in the u.s.

[82:49]right now in the USA in America how is it affecting everything

[82:59]and how is the communities reacted towards it I mean you you

[83:03]said you're in Florida is it bad really bad in Florida right

[83:08]now actually it's not bad in Florida yet but actually in Florida

[83:11]here where I'm at the part of Florida that I'm in I'm

[83:15]a sailor with a camera cuz you know you know the whole

[83:17]world's watching YouTube so you won't know why I'm there but you

[83:19]will do you will know where I'll be but actually where I'm

[83:24]at like they're closing up the wall marks and everything right now

[83:27]at five o'clock because of the because of the threat of it

[83:32]um they got a curfew that they just issued in mouth in

[83:35]my particular city in Florida on the in in DC area which

[83:42]I'm from actually from there it's bad in DC because you know

[83:45]the prep he has a you know a very negative he has

[83:52]a very negative popularity rate right now and you know just recently

[83:56]the other day he came out of they say he was hiding

[84:00]in a bunker because they're like surrounded the White House no so

[84:03]they moved him the media says that he was in a bunker

[84:08]and then they he wanted to do a photo op in front

[84:11]of a church that was nearby so he tear-gassed all of the

[84:14]protesters that was out gave the go-ahead to take as the protesters

[84:17]and you know he had to ride through all these different signs

[84:23]in different places but he was calling them all kinds of crazy

[84:26]names right and you know it's crazy in DC right now it's

[84:29]crazy in a lot of places it's crazy and we're not crazy

[84:34]but you have to type of it's layered so it's other elements

[84:37]is going off actually the rioters and looters a lot of them

[84:43]are you know they have edit evidence that a lot of the

[84:46]rioting and eluding start even in Minneapolis from actual police officer you

[84:52]know video going around he was breaking the windows nobody was doing

[84:56]that at first everybody was just like out there like you know

[85:01]protesting so when you add that element for media they're calling them

[85:05]it changes the language so the language becomes it stuff instead of

[85:10]saying people were out at the protest or people were peacefully protesting

[85:14]walking down the street right or people did a peaceful protest like

[85:19]at the times of Gandhi where they did sit-ins and this another

[85:23]than that they say the rioters you know or people were attending

[85:26]the riots or people were attending the looting so the language changed

[85:30]on media the people start to repeat media and all of a

[85:35]sudden it's not a protest anymore it's a riot it's a looting

[85:37]situation you see so we have to be careful about the media

[85:40]putting out a certain narrative the protest and many places are peaceful

[85:48]but there are some places where it's getting out of control and

[85:51]many of the videos that are surfacing now on social media and

[85:54]people are having this camera see a lot of people a lot

[85:59]of these governments and stuff like that all over the world they

[86:02]never calculated the power of that tiny camera on what it was

[86:08]going to be able to do right so now that it's being

[86:09]recorded and people are recording it with their cameras just like the

[86:16]George Floyd situation that sparked this inner revolution to the people but

[86:21]its awakening of the people because it was recording they saw minutes

[86:27]almost huh I know this might be a bit of a big

[86:31]question in a certain sense but do you think it will kick

[86:35]off some type of civil war um I have to be very

[86:41]careful what I say over media because you know um you know

[86:44]they target people like in the sense of the people unfortunately who

[86:50]came out and was very active and had a really loud voice

[86:54]for the situation that happened with Mike Brown which was the beginning

[86:57]of the Black Mountain black lives matter movement from my understanding when

[87:01]I went out what I understand that was the beginning situation that

[87:05]started it a lot of those people and ended up the violator

[87:11]those uh those activists who were leading the leading the path or

[87:15]make basically awfully I don't think it was like all of them

[87:17]or maybe 99% of them are got killed suspicious deaths right so

[87:24]I got to be very careful but at the same time you

[87:26]know we have our you know we have our you know freedom

[87:31]of speech you know and I'm gonna say this war is not

[87:35]the answer to me you know a lot of people may disagree

[87:37]and be like man give him off the screen but Wars not

[87:43]the answer changes to answer you know people are already losing their

[87:46]lives in this you know people are dying you know I'm hearing

[87:49]about people who are dying like you know getting uh you know

[87:55]getting beat up by the police and dying in the hospital you

[87:58]know from this this is honored that it's not the first one

[88:03]you know you have all to stir from you know that it's

[88:06]killed one killed on a Facebook live right and they kicked off

[88:09]a big protest back then please forgive me if I say this

[88:15]name wrong you have Sandra bland who was killed by the police

[88:17]but they covered it up for months right they covered it up

[88:23]and said that she had a you know that she was alive

[88:25]while she had a mug shot people on her family and people

[88:29]that knew her said she was not allowed they they shocked her

[88:32]eyes right and the mug shot and she was dead made later

[88:38]on something that be like a white background and they photoshopped her

[88:41]eyes and then they killed her in their custody and they ended

[88:44]up getting charged with murder you know the the police officers in

[88:49]the ER Ghana the earn garlic a case and that was ironic

[88:54]too this case with mr.

[88:58]George Floyd is that both of them said I can't breathe I

[89:00]can't breathe and then they killed him for the whole world to

[89:05]see it and it's out on media for anybody that wants to

[89:08]see the nine almost nine minute video of a gruesome murder where

[89:13]this man laid his weight and his foot on the neck of

[89:14]a black individual killed a man in front of everybody the world

[89:18]is outraged not just so when you ask the question you struggle

[89:23]to be specific about that not just a civil war can happen

[89:26]but also not just a civil war but globally people are marching

[89:33]I've seen people and I think of us in some way in

[89:36]the UK I know there's even seen in France or certain different

[89:45]papers photos opening start to send me some of those clippings habibi

[89:48]when you see them if you see them on the news or

[89:51]someone's you see them on YouTube send them to me because you

[89:52]know we get it we got a different news hit and you

[89:56]guys have right so the thing is that all over Africa everywhere

[89:59]people are waking up enough it's enough we are human beings we

[90:04]are pulled over with the you know like we said about I'm

[90:09]gonna be tomorrow we're not yelling one card that they are you

[90:11]supposed to enjoin good and forbid the evil where people are enjoying

[90:16]evil these days and forbidding what is good you also have when

[90:19]we in in society as far as the laws in the United

[90:23]States you are innocent until proven guilty but these days when you're

[90:28]dealing with an african-american individual then what happens when they pull over

[90:32]African American what do they say he's guilty until he's proven innocent

[90:37]they pulled us over they come to 9-1-1 calls with the assumption

[90:40]that we are the criminals one guy was in one person was

[90:46]in another state and he was the one who called the police

[90:48]about the prompted someone that was looting his store right the police

[90:53]show up and immediately put him in handcuffs Wow because you presumed

[90:58]that he was guilty and that he's black and he is the

[91:00]criminal when you saw him and now I'm connecting that back to

[91:06]hood how do we as brothers see each other do you see

[91:08]me as a good pious brother cuz I've never shown you anything

[91:13]else or do you see me as a criminal an individual a

[91:15]thug a person and this is Iraq what's the silver how do

[91:20]you see me they have a documentary on Netflix that I tell

[91:23]everyone to go lunch two of them one is how they see

[91:29]that about five in yes in in Central Park where I one

[91:34]of them became Muslim later on you know I think he picked

[91:36]up the pen for a little sooner would you matter something like

[91:37]that but the other one did I want people to see it's

[91:42]one call 13th in missed about the criminal justice system the prison

[91:46]system and how we when we get locked up and when you

[91:50]get locked up you are actually back under slave laws right and

[91:53]a lot of the language that our president is using is some

[91:59]of the language that they were pointing out in that documentary like

[92:02]I am the president of Law & Order you have to look

[92:05]up the codes understand what they're saying you know and there is

[92:09]a there is a vicious undertone and a vicious outcry from the

[92:12]white supremacist organizations in the United States and that's why he's in

[92:18]the office and unfortunately you have to deal with this but I

[92:20]tell people do everything you can't get him out of office you

[92:22]know and keep these kind of people that are office because no

[92:28]matter what we're gonna be under sight we want to be under

[92:30]all of these oppression as long as the person is calling the

[92:33]shots that's doing this and all of these presidents many of them

[92:36]they get out there and they say things I give all these

[92:38]promises to the people that they want to vote for them on

[92:42]their campaigning and they get in the office and they deliver none

[92:46]of that so it's a shame it's a shame that we're living

[92:51]in the time that someone like Emmett Till you know a black

[92:56]individual who was accused of a crime accused was beaten to a

[93:00]pulp and if you look up his story and look up his

[93:04]picture online image he'll put it in and you will see what

[93:08]his face look like as a young man a young black man

[93:10]right his mother allowed his picture to be publicized in history for

[93:16]just like they say he flirted with a white woman back in

[93:19]those times when segregation was out right accused of a crime and

[93:24]that's what they did to him beat him to death he died

[93:32]truly who's been accused of a fake $20 I love the case

[93:37]because it's not only just about George Floyd this is just something

[93:40]that happened within it and I don't want to minimalize his death

[93:45]at all but it's a collective of deaths if you look into

[93:48]the if you look into the history of the badge that they

[93:53]wear the police office the star they wear in the United States

[93:56]your understand it came from the history of it came from slave

[93:59]patrol they were chased our ancestors and kill them and bring them

[94:06]back to the master to do all kinda indecent things to them

[94:09]when they would leave whip them beat them to definite and certain

[94:14]are certain points all kinds of indecent things and then we supposed

[94:17]to be as a people we're supposed to be like oh it

[94:20]never happened uncomfortable conversation and seeing you have that coupled with someone

[94:32]who understands or someone who tries to understand the oppression and the

[94:37]and the UH the math loom of activate are they you Muslim

[94:42]now you have a dangerous individual and that's what I want this

[94:46]kids community to wake up and understand me as the african-american cheers

[94:51]we understand both so we we we're just being humble and being

[94:57]patient well we can't wait to people wake up and start to

[95:01]understand Bravo I am well it's always a pleasure I always get

[95:10]have to sing I'm looking up tickets on TV so you know

[95:19]it's Allah might be if I'm not already in house and flew

[95:21]away I might be trying to come therefore you know even when

[95:25]you go to Hauser if you come stay in London for a

[95:30]few nights and then go that's our option as well as Charlotte

[95:39]thank you so much for your time thank you for your wisdom

[95:44]I was it was very interesting to know your story the story

[95:49]of your father and to kind of is kind of just to

[95:53]put and highlight for the Shia community what's what it's like being

[95:59]an african-american black Shia and how we should kind of you know

[96:03]strengthen our relationship between each other so I think so I thank

[96:09]you for that thank you stay safe in these dark times in

[96:13]America by pressing your art and shallow will speak soon shall have

[96:18]evil brahim Louis al Malik but I'm not a liar but I

[96:25]cut the so a Peavy Charla will speak soon I said I'm

[96:28]said are they correct today [Music]

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