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[0:00]smilla rahmani raheem alhamdulillahi rabbil aalameen mosul allahu ala muhammadin wa ala
[0:09]nabina pauline nama salli ala muhammadin wa ala muhammad respected brothers and
[0:17]sisters salaam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh in our previous discussions we
[0:24]spoke about the different opinions on moon siding and the horizons of
[0:29]the moon and then we discussed relying on technology when it comes
[0:35]to determining the new month and we said that scholars have discussed
[0:41]two points when it comes to relying on technology the first that
[0:45]we spoke about was relying on the telescope in determining the new
[0:50]month and i mentioned the different opinions about that with some of
[0:56]the arguments of each side the second point the second discussion that
[1:02]scholars speak about when it comes to relying on science in determining
[1:06]the new month is relying on astronomers to predict the new moon
[1:14]or to predict the moon sighting so can we rely on astronomers
[1:18]in predicting the new moon or not because as muslims and specifically
[1:22]the followers of the japanese school of thought we pride ourselves in
[1:28]following a school of thought or a faith that is completely compatible
[1:33]with science and the more knowledge we receive from science the more
[1:39]science advances the more we are certain and the more it is
[1:45]proof for us that our school of thought that our faith is
[1:49]divinely guided because it can't be just the coincidence that all the
[1:53]laws all the Islamic laws that we have in the school of
[1:59]thought of a debate are just coincidentally compatible with science this shows
[2:04]that such cohesiveness such perfection such compatibility with science can only mean
[2:12]that this religion this viii was brought from allah subhanahu wata'ala and
[2:19]that's why scholars have mentioned that any time science gives us certainty
[2:27]about anything then we can rely on science and Islamic law if
[2:34]we want to determine anything that has to do with Islamic law
[2:38]we can rely on science as long as science gives a certainty
[2:45]so for example scholars have said that when it comes to determining
[2:49]the prior times salat to swab or solitude or essaouira Maharaja we
[2:54]no longer have to go and look at the sky to determine
[3:00]if the time of Prayer has began or ended we can rely
[3:02]on science why because it can predict for us the prayer times
[3:11]very accurately another example when it comes to DNA can we rely
[3:15]on DNA to prove the biological parents of someone scholars have said
[3:21]yes because this gives you certainty this is accurately predicted or done
[3:31]by science so we can rely on science to predict the prior
[3:36]times - to understand who the biological parents are and the reasoning
[3:42]behind this why scholars accept science and these situations their justification is
[3:50]that science here gives a certainty science can predict these matters with
[3:57]complete accuracy and thus it gives us certainty and anything that gives
[4:02]us certainty we can rely on it when it comes to Islamic
[4:06]law so some scholars have said we should take that same principle
[4:10]that same arguments and apply to one sighting now with all the
[4:14]scientific and technological advancements we no longer have to rely on archaic
[4:20]methods to determine the new moon like sending witnesses sending two witnesses
[4:26]and then the have to look at the horizon only after those
[4:30]two witnesses spot the moon we can have for example tomorrow as
[4:35]a Ramadan or eat or any new day of a new month
[4:39]we don't have to rely on these archaic old methods when we
[4:42]have science wouldn't check when science had has advanced so much why
[4:47]not just rely on science so we can rely on astronomy to
[4:54]predict the new month now scholars have stated that the moon doesn't
[4:59]have to actually be seen by a witness in order for the
[5:04]new month to begin no scholar has said that what's important is
[5:07]for the moon to be visible in the horizon and that's why
[5:14]they say if you know 100% the moon is visible in the
[5:16]horizon tomorrow is the new month so for example if it's a
[5:21]cloudy day and we can't see the moon because the clouds are
[5:24]blocking our view but we know a hundred percent that the moon
[5:30]is there it's visible all scholars have said that tomorrow is the
[5:34]new month so we don't actually have to see it the point
[5:38]is it has to be visible on the horizon as long as
[5:41]you know the moon is there it's enough so that's why some
[5:49]scholars have mentioned that we can rely on science on astronomers to
[5:53]tell us to predict if the moon will be visible or not
[5:59]we don't have to send someone because what's important is the knowledge
[6:02]to know that it's visible no one has to actually see it
[6:04]and astronomers can tell us if it's visible or not so why
[6:10]can't we rely on it so the question is can science help
[6:12]us in telling if the moon is actually visible or not and
[6:20]here most scholars have mentioned that there are two facts that science
[6:25]can help us with when it comes to determining the new month
[6:31]but unfortunately both pieces of information are problematic why the first piece
[6:39]of information that science can help determining is the new moon science
[6:44]astronomers they can predict the new moon correct so the argument that
[6:54]you may post is why can't we use science or rely on
[6:56]astronomers to predict the new moon why wait until it's visible and
[6:59]only then we know it's the new moon is born let us
[7:03]rely on astronomers they can tell us the exact minute or a
[7:10]second when the new moon is born so the argument that someone
[7:14]could pose to further this view as goes like this that correct
[7:19]the Imams did say in their hadith Somel auroria of total auroria
[7:25]fast only when you see the moon break your fast meaning it's
[7:30]the day of Eid only when you see the moon so the
[7:34]Imams did mention that the criteria is you have to see the
[7:35]moon but why did they say that why because back then there
[7:41]were no scientists there are no astronomers so the only way for
[7:44]us to know if the new moon was actually born is when
[7:48]we see it or else how would we know back to then
[7:50]1400 years ago if the new moon is born there is no
[7:54]way because there was no science no astronomers the Imams obviously said
[7:58]when you see the moon the new month begins but we don't
[8:04]have to wait until we see it because now we have science
[8:06]now we have astronomers after the Imam this is how the argument
[8:12]goes if the Imam was alive today and he would see all
[8:14]this technological advancement of science and astronomers he would say you don't
[8:18]have to wait until you see it just ask an astronomer when
[8:21]the new moon is born and that's it the new month begins
[8:23]so basically the only reason why the Imam set this criteria when
[8:29]you see the moon is because there was no other way to
[8:31]know if the knew of the of the new moon was born
[8:35]or not so this is how the argument goes some have posted
[8:42]this argument our scholars have refuted this argument they have said no
[8:47]this is an incorrect argument why they have said because this assumption
[8:51]that that this argument makes that there were no astronomers during the
[8:56]time of the Imams there was no astronomy no science as incorrect
[8:59]there were astronomers even during the times of the Imams and they
[9:03]had the ability to predict them new moon even 1400 years ago
[9:09]even before that if you read about the Greeks more than 2,000
[9:13]years ago the Greeks had this had the ability to predict the
[9:18]new moon now the only difference with then and now now that
[9:21]we have you know science and it has advanced so much is
[9:26]that the new moon can be estimated or could be predicted with
[9:30]much more accuracy back then you could be off by a couple
[9:36]of minutes now they could predict the new moon to the second
[9:39]but the point is astronomers existed back then and even then the
[9:43]Imam did not say go and ask an astronomer when the new
[9:47]moon is born and whatever he says tomorrow will be the first
[9:51]day of the new month the Imam said somewhere oh yeah you
[9:55]can only fast break your fast the new month begins when you
[10:00]see it so the Imam actually wants us to see it has
[10:05]to be visible it doesn't matter if the new moon is born
[10:08]or not so this shows us that even if an astronomer can
[10:15]predict the new moon accurately it doesn't mean anything for us because
[10:18]the new month does not begin with the new moon scholars mention
[10:22]the new month in Islam begins when the moon grows until it
[10:30]is visible on the horizon and that usually takes anywhere from 10
[10:33]to 20 hours after the new moon so it's not enough the
[10:37]new moon is born even if I know even if jabra Ian
[10:39]comes down and tells me the new moon is born so what
[10:43]the new month does not begin with the new moon it begins
[10:45]when it becomes visible on the horizon and like I said that
[10:52]takes anywhere from 10 to 20 hours after the new moon so
[10:55]science does accurately predict the new moon it does give us certainty
[10:59]and we said anything that give us gives us certain theory could
[11:03]we can rely on it but the problem is what science is
[11:06]dick ting for us with certainty with accurate with accuracy is useless
[11:13]this piece of fact doesn't prove anything so what if the new
[11:16]moon is born so this first piece of information that science can
[11:20]actually accurately predict for us is useless so then we could say
[11:27]this let us go to the second piece of information fine astronomers
[11:31]they can predict the new moon but this is useless so we
[11:36]won't rely on this we'll rely on a second piece of information
[11:39]we can rely on astronomers to predict the visibility of the moon
[11:43]didn't we say that the criteria for the new month beginning in
[11:48]Islam is the moon has to be visible on the horizon astronomers
[11:51]can predict even that they can predict that in your area its
[11:54]visible or not visible on the horizon and they can predict predicting
[11:58]predict this months before years before so why can't we rely on
[12:06]that scholars have replied to this they have said yes this is
[12:09]the right criteria predicting the visibility of the moon this is what
[12:12]we need but there's another problem here what's that problem the problem
[12:20]is the is the the problem is with science itself with astronomers
[12:26]itself astronomers themselves admit that when it comes to predicting the new
[12:31]moon we can predict it or than Ironfist with great accuracy but
[12:35]when it comes to predicting the visibility of the moon on your
[12:40]horizon we can only make a guess we cannot predict it with
[12:46]complete accuracy so it's not with 100% certainty so an astronomer cannot
[12:51]predict the visibility of the moon all the times - with accuracy
[12:55]they can give a guess an estimate yeah 7080 percent it could
[13:00]be seen and I spoke to an astronomer once personally and he
[13:05]told me this a Muslim astronomer he told me that no astronomer
[13:12]can predict the visibility of the moon on the horizon with complete
[13:16]accuracy it's gonna be a guess of course an educated guess but
[13:20]it could be off so that's why we find sometimes astronomers say
[13:25]it could be seen and people go to try to see it
[13:32]no one sees it and that's why we mentioned we said that
[13:36]we can only rely on science or astronomers only when they predict
[13:40]something with complete accuracy only if it gives us certainty 60 70
[13:48]80 percent of the time that's not good enough so since astronomers
[13:53]cannot predict the visibility of the of the moon with certainty complete
[13:59]certainty we can't rely on them because they are not certain themselves
[14:03]so if we find score some scholars they have reservations or they
[14:08]are reluctant to rely on astronomers it's not because they reject science
[14:13]it's not because they are living in these stone ages it's not
[14:20]because they are skeptical of science altogether the problem is what science
[14:26]can accurately accurately predict for us as useless and what is useful
[14:31]which is the visibility of the moon they cannot predict it with
[14:37]accurate with accuracy so let me rephrase this science can predict the
[14:41]new moon with accuracy but the new moon means nothing we need
[14:46]the visibility of the moon on the horizon and when it comes
[14:48]to the visibility of the moon on your horizon science cannot predict
[14:53]it with complete accuracy it's only a guess so that's why scholars
[14:57]have their reservations but however scholars have said that if you on
[15:03]a personal level on a personal basis the predictions of a certain
[15:10]a specific astronomer gives you certainty on a personal level you can
[15:14]rely on it you can rely on its findings but it's a
[15:17]personal matter here it will differ from person to person maybe you
[15:22]consider this astronomer as very accurate gives you certainty you rely on
[15:28]on him but to me no it doesn't give me certainty so
[15:33]it's going to be subjective it's gonna it's gonna differ from person
[15:39]to person and yes go ahead rather this is the ruling of
[15:52]most Maharaja and specifically say the Sistani mentions this he mentions that
[15:57]you can rely on the predictions of of an astronomer only if
[16:04]you are certain that he's accurate that he won't mislead you that
[16:08]there is no room for error no room for doubt if you
[16:11]are sure of this say the Sistani clearly says you can rely
[16:17]on that astronomer but however he himself says me on a personal
[16:21]level say the Sistani astronomers their findings they don't always give me
[16:27]certainty sometimes yes sometimes no and that's why you see sometimes say
[16:30]the Sistani doesn't rely on the findings of astronomers other times no
[16:34]it just depends it depends on that astronomers it depends on their
[16:38]guess is it close is it close to 100% is it far
[16:42]so there's many factors that he takes into consideration but he clearly
[16:50]says if there is an astronomer that you rely on you find
[16:52]this guy he's always under you know on the dot he's perfect
[16:56]whatever he says his findings are always you know true then you
[17:02]can rely on him but however you can't force other people to
[17:05]rely on him it becomes a personal matter yes to me I
[17:11]think he gives me certainty I think he is a you know
[17:16]his guess is his predictions are usually accurate but if anyone else
[17:21]disagrees fine it becomes a matter of opinion here because it's not
[17:24]something that the astronomer himself can claim that I always predict with
[17:30]certainty if science reaches a state where the predictions of astronomers reaches
[17:34]a hundred percent when it comes to the visibility of the moon
[17:37]all scholars will rely on them just like they rely on the
[17:43]predictions of astronomers when it comes to the timings of prayers so
[17:46]the only reason they rely mirror with player timings and they don't
[17:49]rely on the visibility of the moon is because science still hasn't
[17:56]reached that level of certainty where we can rely on them yes
[18:01]is there a question yes go ahead yes what do they do
[18:16]with that no I I mentioned if you if you remember I
[18:25]mentioned scholars all scholars say that you don't have to actually see
[18:31]it there doesn't necessarily have to be a witness and that's why
[18:34]I mentioned all the ulema mentioned if there is clouds on that
[18:39]day but we are sure now how does it matter we are
[18:41]sure 100% that the moon is there it's right there it's it's
[18:47]there and we could see the Crescent but there is this cloud
[18:49]that's preventing us can we say tomorrow's the new month all ulema
[18:56]say yes we don't actually have to see it with the eye
[18:59]when the Imam said Psalm Laroy yeah laughter oh yeah right yeah
[19:02]he means the moon is actually there and it can be seen
[19:06]so as long as it can be seen meaning it's there on
[19:11]the horizon we can we can consider tomorrow as the beginning of
[19:14]the new month if there is something blocking it we can't say
[19:19]that tomorrow isn't the new month if we know the moon is
[19:22]behind the the cloud or whatever is blocking it so the anima
[19:26]they say some the rori lofton aurilla does it necessarily you have
[19:31]to see it the point is you have to know it's there
[19:33]there on the horizon meaning as long as you know there isn't
[19:39]any obstacle I could see it so this is atef see at
[19:43]the ulema gift to Sowmya yay laughter Laura yeah or else based
[19:46]on your interpretation or someone actually has to see it then if
[19:51]there are clouds but we are sure it's there we can't consider
[19:54]this the you know the first day of the month and no
[19:58]no scholar has said this they have as long as you have
[20:04]knowledge that the moon is there it's visible it can be seen
[20:07]tomorrow's the first day it doesn't necessarily has to be seen what's
[20:12]important is that it can be seen so that's why based on
[20:20]this we can conclude that if an astronomer can predict with a
[20:24]hundred percent certainty that the moon can be visible on your horizon
[20:30]you can rely on that and like I said I say the
[20:31]Sistani he clearly mentions this in his stuff taught in his books
[20:38]is that clear [Music] exactly the reason why we need witnesses is
[21:01]because there's no way for us to know if the moon is
[21:05]visible or not how would I know if the moon is visible
[21:11]on the horizon tonight I have no way so if astronomers they
[21:14]could predict with a hundred percent certainty why do I have to
[21:18]rely on witnesses do I have to rely on a witness to
[21:23]tell me that the Sun has risen the Sun you know it's
[21:27]sunrise and then tell us I can't pray so that's also boy
[21:29]do I have to you know rely on a witness to tell
[21:34]me that no no Adam says that because astronomers now they can
[21:38]predict the sunrise with a hundred percent certainty there is no room
[21:44]for error every island will tell you you don't need to rely
[21:47]on a witness tell us as long as you know you have
[21:51]a limb you have your theme you have certainty that the Sun
[21:54]is has risen already you can rely on that the same thing
[21:59]they say about the moon the Sun in the moon it's the
[22:00]same thing if the moon is over there I know it's there
[22:04]but I can't see it because there's a there's a barrier there
[22:07]is an obstacle so it can be visible but there is a
[22:12]cloud every eylem has say I said that if there is a
[22:17]cloud that doesn't mean you can't rely on it so Swami Leroy
[22:19]yeah well Totoro yeah the reason why the Imam said you have
[22:23]to see it is because there's no other way to know if
[22:25]it's visit so if it's there how would I know if I
[22:29]don't see it how would I know it's visible if science progresses
[22:31]and it can tell us with a hundred percent accuracy that no
[22:36]it is there it will be there a hundred percent 100 percent
[22:39]meaning there's no room for error then why wait for a witness
[22:44]what's the difference between a witness telling me that it's there or
[22:48]science telling me that it's there but as long as science can
[22:51]predict the visibility remember not the new moon the new moon is
[22:57]useless visibility of the moon in your horizon in your area 100
[23:00]percent every alum will accept that they haven't accepted it now because
[23:03]astronomers cannot read always predict it with a hundred percent accuracy so
[23:09]now that we have understood the different opinions and the different views
[23:17]on moon sighting now I will move on Shara to another discussion
[23:25]and that is organ donation because remember our topic our subject for
[23:30]this class is contemporary jurisprudence issues and laws that did not apply
[23:36]during the times of the Imams but they apply now so amongst
[23:39]those issues or laws is organ donation are we allowed to donate
[23:47]our organs or not Islamic Lee is it Helen is it Haram
[23:50]is it recommended what is the ruling concerning organ donation now I
[23:55]have to set a few things straight before we mention the different
[24:02]views number one most scholars they say that a Muslim is allowed
[24:07]to take organs any organs from a non-muslim this is almost a
[24:13]consensus I can't say a hundred percent because I have not reviewed
[24:19]all the views of all the Malaga but majority of Malaga say
[24:22]for a Muslim is okay for him to take the organs of
[24:27]a non-muslim without any conditions any organ anytime so that's number one
[24:30]number two likewise most mirage most scholars agree that a Muslim can
[24:42]donate a non-viral organ like a second kidney that he doesn't need
[24:47]or tissues for example or donate blood these are nine vital things
[24:50]he can live without them the human being he can donate them
[24:56]to anyone whether that person the recipient is a Muslim or whether
[24:58]he is a non-muslim as long as donating this specific tissue blood
[25:04]or organ does not harm him so donating blood doesn't harm me
[25:11]donating tissues doesn't harm me if I have two healthy kidneys I
[25:14]can donate a second kidney and as long as it won't harm
[25:18]me I can donate it to anyone so a Muslim or non-muslim
[25:20]there is almost a consensus on this also so these are two
[25:27]points there isn't any disagreement on this the area where there is
[25:31]a lot of disagreement and controversy is this and this is where
[25:35]scholars have disputed as a Muslim allowed to donate his organs after
[25:39]he dies or not so the one that we mentioned non vital
[25:44]organs this is all while I'm alive I donate my kidney that
[25:47]I don't need I donate blood donate tissues I can donate all
[25:53]these things while I'm alive but the question is after I die
[25:57]am I allowed to write in my wassailia and my will that
[26:03]I want my organs to be donated can I you know register
[26:06]with the organ donor registry can i register that after I die
[26:11]take my organs and give it to whoever needs that this is
[26:16]where the scholars have disputed and here there are two main views
[26:21]view number one is those scholars that say you're allowed to donate
[26:28]your organs after you die so you can write that in your
[26:34]will you can donate it to any one Muslim or non-muslim unconditionally
[26:37]yes right in your will I want to donate my hearts my
[26:44]kidney my learned my liver my eye anything that could be donated
[26:47]that could be used by someone else you can write that in
[26:51]your muscle yeah whether the recipient is Muslim or non-muslim this is
[26:56]the first view the second view of the ulema is that you're
[27:00]only allowed to donate you can only write this in your world
[27:07]you're only allowed to donate to number one a Muslim the recipients
[27:10]can only be a Muslim so you cannot donate your organs after
[27:14]you die it cannot be given they cannot be given to a
[27:20]non-muslim that's not that's the first condition the recipient has to be
[27:23]a Muslim and the second condition is the Muslim can only take
[27:26]the organs if his life depends on it so if it's not
[27:33]a life-threatening situation the Muslim recipients cannot take the organs of a
[27:39]dead Muslim so I can only will I can only give my
[27:44]body parts or organs after I die to a Muslim if his
[27:47]life depends on it with these two conditions so now that we
[27:53]understand the two views I will go into some of the arguments
[27:55]first I will begin with the first view the first view is
[28:02]you're allowed to donate after you die your organs to anyone without
[28:06]any conditions I'll mention two arguments the first argument that they have
[28:11]used this is this they refer to a general law in FIFA
[28:13]and jurisprudence that says kullu shay'in lekha Halong at Salomon no hello
[28:21]everything is halal until proven otherwise so the default state of everything
[28:30]there's a tenant the only time I can say something is Haram
[28:35]if I have proof from the Quran from the son of Allah
[28:38]so Allah feminine bait that it is Haram so if I search
[28:42]in the Quran I search in the hadith I don't find any
[28:44]proof any evidence that such an act is Haram then it will
[28:52]automatically Helen so like I said the default law is that everything
[28:55]is permissible until proven otherwise so these are Lamar they have said
[28:59]when we go to the Quran when we go to the Sunnah
[29:04]we don't find anything that prohibits organ donation and thus there's no
[29:07]reason for us to say it's Haram we also Tala donate it
[29:11]to a Muslim to a kafir why would it be Haram there's
[29:17]no proof to show that it's Haram now you may object and
[29:19]say well obviously they won't there won't be proof because this matter
[29:22]that not exist during the times of the Imams correct we're speaking
[29:26]about contemporary fit issues that have you know that have risen in
[29:34]this new age so during the time of the Imam there is
[29:37]nothing in the Quran in the Sunda because it did not apply
[29:41]to that time there was no organ donation so how could we
[29:43]find proof I or a hadith that is saying organ donation is
[29:49]halal more only to a Muslim it didn't apply back then so
[29:51]how did the ulema of this first view refute this argument they
[29:55]say it doesn't matter as long as there is no proof that
[29:58]there is something Haram that's how long even if it was not
[30:01]applicable back then the Quran the Imams could have said a general
[30:08]law it's very general that could apply to all ages - you
[30:11]know new laws that will come and in the future even though
[30:15]it won't say organ donation but the Imam could have said you
[30:18]know he could have worded it that you know the body has
[30:22]sanctity and whatever and it cannot be touched after someone dies and
[30:25]whatnot so as long as there is nothing in the hadith in
[30:30]the Quran to prove that it's Haram the default state is it's
[30:33]hell on so this is the first argument they use the second
[30:37]argument these are lemma that say you can donate after you die
[30:42]to a Muslim to occur to a kafir is a hadith of
[30:46]an imam Assad the valley has Sarah who narrates this hadith and
[30:50]her saying even darada darada that i'm sure many of you are
[30:53]familiar with was one of the greatest companions of an imam sadiq
[31:00]and el barco his son and her saying his name was her
[31:02]saying the son of Zahra he says this he says Celebi wanna
[31:08]Harvard and or an erosion yes Watson no FEA Hudson in sanon
[31:18]may it fait allahu allah allahumma kleiner colobus and her salable zarada
[31:27]he says one day me and my father's Arara we want to
[31:30]see the imam ali mama slaughter and my father's olara as the
[31:36]imam this question he asked them if a man Roger a man
[31:38]loses a teeth this is a tooth and after he loses the
[31:47]truth he finds at that person who obviously he's dead he doesn't
[31:52]need his teeth anymore so he can he take the teeth the
[31:59]truth of that dead person and use it for himself the Imam
[32:03]said yes he can do that so the enema have said if
[32:10]it is allowed for someone to take the tooth of a deceased
[32:14]individual are you listen carefully brothers so this is very precise they
[32:19]say if according to Ali Masada fee you can take the tooth
[32:24]of a deceased person then that means that deceased person could have
[32:28]donated it to you before he died he could have wrote in
[32:31]his will that after I die I want to donate my teeth
[32:36]to that you know to my friend Ali to my friend Muhammad
[32:40]or whoever needs it since the Imam is saying you can take
[32:43]his teeth without his permission so obviously he could have wrote it
[32:48]in his will that whoever wants to take my teeth they could
[32:51]have correct I mean it's obvious if the Imam says you can
[32:55]take his teeth even without him asking then he could have weld
[32:58]it he could have donated it he could have said when I
[33:03]die I donate my teeth so this hadith is indirectly proving that
[33:08]you can donate your teeth after you die so this is number
[33:13]one number two the owner might say the second indirect thing we
[33:17]can understand from this hadith is if you're allowed to donate your
[33:23]tooth you can donate any other body part why because they all
[33:27]share the same point you don't need them after you die what's
[33:30]the difference between your tooth your eye your heart your lung your
[33:37]kidney your tissues you don't need any of them when you're alive
[33:40]there's a difference you don't need your tooth you can live without
[33:42]it but you need all these vital organs that's when you're alive
[33:47]but after you're dead you don't need all of them so if
[33:49]the Imam says you can take the tooth you can take the
[33:53]heart you can take anything because you don't need that he's dead
[33:57]he's gonna decompose in the grave and the ornaments a that zarada
[34:03]he asked and the Rigelian module means a man can a man
[34:09]take that the you know the the tooth of a deceased individual
[34:12]so the zarada used the word a man he didn't say a
[34:18]Muslim so even if that man was a kafir he can take
[34:22]the tooth of a Muslim that Muslim could donate it to the
[34:25]kafir he did not indicate if it's a Muslim kafir and the
[34:27]Ahmad didn't indicate the Imam just said it generally yes yes it's
[34:32]okay so any man can take that the the truth of any
[34:34]dead man the dead man is worse l'm kafir doesn't matter the
[34:39]person who is taking the the truth is a muslim kafir doesn't
[34:42]matter so if we said we indirectly understand from this hadith that
[34:48]you can donate your tooth that means you can donate your tooth
[34:50]to a Muslim or kafir if we understood from this hadith that
[34:53]you can indirectly and you can well you can donate all your
[34:59]body parts after you die then you can give them to a
[35:03]Muslim or kafir because the Imam didn't set a condition as long
[35:05]as Yasin Allah as long as he's a Muslim take you know
[35:09]what he can take the tooth so as long as they're not
[35:11]Deniz you know say has to be a Muslim why do we
[35:15]have to bring this condition if he's a Muslim he can take
[35:17]the body part no their moms are taking the tooth a man
[35:21]man could be a Muslim or kapha correct now some have objected
[35:29]to this argument they have said look sir Allah is asking about
[35:31]Muslim obviously when he says and rajulun a man can take a
[35:36]tooth of a deceased person he's not talking about Kafar he's speaking
[35:40]about Muslims why because zarada is a Muslim and he's living in
[35:43]a Muslim society back to them there's no Kafar so any question
[35:49]he would ask any narrator when he asks something he even though
[35:52]he says a jewel in a man he's not speaking about someone
[35:54]in China someone in the you know the North Pole obviously he's
[36:00]asking about someone in his environment in Medina and those areas his
[36:04]people so obviously it won't include a kafir the Imam gave permission
[36:09]to take the tooth as long as you're listening because he's asking
[36:11]about a man that took the tooth and a man will apply
[36:16]only to a Muslim because there was no Kafar in that society
[36:21]now this argument has been raised but however we can refute this
[36:26]argument by saying that their work afar in the Muslim nation there
[36:31]were 11 men and then there were those Christians and Jews who
[36:35]lived under a Muslim states and they obeyed the law so their
[36:40]work of thought we can't say that you know even in in
[36:42]Medina there were Jews and Christians that lived so this objection that
[36:48]a man only applies to a Muslim is incorrect so to summarize
[36:51]what we understand from the second argument is the Imam said you
[36:57]can take the tooth of a deceased person there are Lamas a
[37:01]tooth all other organs same thing you don't need all of them
[37:05]so if you can if the Imam gave you permission to take
[37:07]the tooth that means you have permission to take any other body
[37:10]parts that includes the lung the hearts the kids need the liver
[37:16]and so on and so forth the amount didn't say you can
[37:18]take it as long as you're a Muslim and the diseases are
[37:21]most no no no the Imam said that anyone can take from
[37:23]anyone he didn't say that but because he set no conditions then
[37:27]that means it's a general law so this is the second argument
[37:31]that the AMA rely and they rely on this hadith from the
[37:35]Imam even though the Imam spoke about only the truth but we
[37:37]can understand a more general law because there's no difference between tooth
[37:40]and lung and heart after you die it's all the same so
[37:47]this the second argument that the ulema used to say that you
[37:50]can donate your organs to anyone muslim or cough kafir we said
[37:53]the first view you can donate any organ after you die to
[37:58]any one Muslim or kafir the second view you can only donate
[38:00]your organs to a Muslim if his life depends on it why
[38:06]what's their justification two arguments argument number one these are lemma they
[38:14]say that your body is a amana is a trust from Allah
[38:20]span Allah Tala and you have authority over it as long as
[38:23]you're living yes as long as you're living your body is yours
[38:27]do whatever you want with it as long as obviously you don't
[38:30]commit suicide you don't harm yourself you don't do great harm you
[38:34]can do whatever you want as long as you're alive after you
[38:39]die the body goes back to Allah you don't own it anymore
[38:42]the Quran says in Allah why not a lady about your own
[38:49]to Allah we belong and to him we go back so after
[38:52]I die I have no authority over my body to say give
[38:54]my lungs to this one to this person give my heart no
[38:57]you don't own it anymore when you're alive it is yours you
[39:00]benefited from it now that you died the spirit has left the
[39:04]body the soul has left the body you don't have authority over
[39:07]the body so how can you write in your will I want
[39:11]to donate to this person and that's person when you don't even
[39:14]have authority over your body after you die thus since technically my
[39:19]body is not my property I have no authority to donate my
[39:25]organ to anyone since it's not mine anymore so I can't donate
[39:28]something that I don't own now some anima they have more data
[39:35]a little differently they have said you know we can't say for
[39:38]sure you have no authority over your body but what we can
[39:40]say is we don't know if you have it if we have
[39:44]authority over our bodies when we die you see this is a
[39:49]less extreme errs the more aggressive version says you have no authority
[39:53]over your body after you die some of them are they have
[39:54]said we can't say for sure that you have north - over
[39:59]your body when you die but what we can say is we
[40:02]don't know if we have authority over our bodies and as long
[40:06]as we don't know if we have authority over something we cannot
[40:08]touch it we cannot you know deal with it we cannot donate
[40:11]something so I don't know if this you know for example if
[40:16]this cup is mine of this cup of water is mine I
[40:21]have no I can't tell someone to drink it only when I
[40:23]know it's mine and I have authority over it I can donate
[40:27]it to someone else so this is what they have centered so
[40:30]then comes this question so why did they say that it is
[40:35]okay for you to donate it Effie's a Muslim Anna's life depends
[40:41]on it if I don't own my body I have no authority
[40:43]even in that situation I cannot give it to anyone correct scholars
[40:47]have said that even if the Muslim did not well even if
[40:53]I did not write in my will take my heart take my
[40:55]lungs I died a Muslims life depends on my heart the doctor
[41:00]is allowed to take my heart even if I have not willed
[41:05]it so willing it or not willing it won't add too much
[41:07]why their justification is that look it is like the brother mentioned
[41:14]a few minutes ago the body has sanctity it's Haram to cut
[41:20]the body you know to cut the body of the human being
[41:23]and take out an organ whether he is alive or dead when
[41:28]he is her life it's obvious even when he is dead he
[41:30]has the same sanctity I can't just come and cut up the
[41:34]body of the human being this is violating his sanctity and I'll
[41:37]read you a few Hadees day they say proves this one hadith
[41:41]is narrated from the Holy Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam he said
[41:44]hermit or rajulun muslim may attend a hermit ehehe and Sawa and
[41:52]this hadith the Prophet says the sanctity of the human being when
[41:55]he is dead and alive is the same so don't think he's
[41:59]dead now he's just you know he's gonna decompose his let me
[42:01]just cut him up no no no no if he was alive
[42:04]would you cut him up no don't cut him open his dead
[42:07]he has sanctity you can't touch his body another hadith the narrator
[42:11]ask Ellie Masada so Alto a barbed Allah and the rajulun kisara
[42:16]album may yet he says I asked if someone broke the bone
[42:20]of a dead man as it just said that man who cares
[42:23]lookie what the Imam says for Karla Haruma - who may attend
[42:28]a llama teehee whoo whoo whoo hey the Imam says his sanctity
[42:32]and honor when he is dead is greater than that when he
[42:35]is alive can you just go and break someone's arm and he's
[42:39]alive of course you can then you can't do it when he's
[42:40]dead it's a worse sin that Imam says it's even a greater
[42:50]sin and another hadith in in mom's life said the Imam did
[42:56]not make it clear the narrator asked and the red jewel in
[43:02]a man if a man breaks the bone of a dead person
[43:08]and may yet he says so like we said you can say
[43:10]you can argue that he's asking about a Muslim because their environments
[43:15]all Muslims you can argue against that there were 11 Christians and
[43:18]Jews so the point is look at the answer of the Imam
[43:25]he says if a being has sanctity when he is alive he
[43:27]will have sanctity when he is dead so from this we can
[43:33]understand a kafir does a catheter have sanctity or not Lama have
[43:37]said if he is a helluva man living under a Muslim State
[43:42]yes he has sanctity when he's alive right you can't just go
[43:45]and kill him and take his money in whatever he has sanctity
[43:49]as honor so if he has sanctity and honor when he is
[43:52]alive he will have even more sanctity when he is dead so
[43:58]this does include the Kafar obviously so if I break the bone
[44:02]of a kafir the Imam says this is a greater sin if
[44:07]he's dead this is a greater sin than if I did it
[44:10]when he was alive so this proves read that the human being
[44:13]has a lot of sanctity great sanctity when he is dead you
[44:18]can't just go cut him up break his bones and another hadith
[44:20]rongmomo Sadiq [Music] no no I love them Matt there are only
[44:40]the Christians and Jews people of the book that are living under
[44:47]a Muslim government so the kuffar that are not living under the
[44:50]Muslim government that are living in their own countries this is a
[44:53]lengthy topic in itself or Lema have disagreed and some have divided
[44:57]them into two parts one is those the mohara those that consider
[45:04]Muslims as their enemies and they are at a state of war
[45:07]with Muslims obviously these persons have no sanctity because they consider us
[45:12]as enemies and the second are those that know they are the
[45:16]Maha d'un those that have a you know they respect Muslims they
[45:19]have a priest treaty or whatever with the Muslim countries these Kafar
[45:24]these non-muslims no no they have to be respected and they have
[45:32]honour and dignity so it's only the kuffar that are Mahara the
[45:35]ones that are fighting against the Muslims the one that consider Muslims
[45:39]their enemies so it's basically common sense I mean someone that wants
[45:41]to kill you that wants to fight you that is considers themselves
[45:47]at war with you these persons have no sanctity but all other
[45:51]kuffar Christians like the ones living in the West they don't consider
[45:54]us you know Muslims as enemies and they should be killed so
[46:00]these people have sanctity and they have honor yes yes now what
[46:13]what the story of ke baare or with the all the actions
[46:30]of Imam Ali what we have to understand is not necessarily everything
[46:32]that Imam Ali did it do it was because it was haram
[46:38]because remember imam ali has a much much higher standard the imam
[46:41]knows that he's a role model and for thousands of years his
[46:45]followers will look at his actions so it doesn't mean because he
[46:49]didn't do something it was haram no the imam you know has
[46:55]a very high standard even if it's hell on he doesn't want
[46:56]to do it now what we do have in our hadith is
[47:01]an whistler is haram mutilating the body of an enemy is haram
[47:03]this this was one of the words actually I was as the
[47:08]fourth hadith that I was gonna mention it let me just mention
[47:11]right now Imam Ali Ali has Salam before he died and when
[47:14]he was struck by bin will gem and his sons were around
[47:19]him and he was giving his final wills to Imam Hasan person
[47:22]and his other sons when he was asked what should we do
[47:27]with even more gem the one who killed him Imam Ali he
[47:29]said if you could either forgive him or if you want retribution
[47:34]if you want you know justice then you can strike him one
[47:38]strike just like what he did to me you know an eye
[47:41]for an eye tooth for tooth so just like how he striked
[47:45]me how he struck me you can strike him and then the
[47:48]Imam said this van nice Amir to Rasul Allah he appalled yah
[47:53]come well mostly well I will kill Malakal he said do not
[47:55]mutilate his body you can't after he dies you know mutilate his
[48:01]body because I heard the Holy Prophet say the never mutilate any
[48:05]person's body even if it was a dog a stray dog so
[48:09]even if it was a dog I see it dead dog laying
[48:12]on the street I can't just go cut up his body mutilated
[48:14]the Holy Prophet prohibited us from doing that so it says Hunnam
[48:19]to mutilate the body of an enemy in the battle that's why
[48:22]mama Hollywood never mutually now was the Imam able was he allowed
[48:28]to take the bootys of war of course he was because this
[48:30]is a verse in the Quran you know the the the verse
[48:35]of Hamas walamu anima or Fatima and namaz on line in 2
[48:39]min shay'in' 4 NN la forma so this was a practice that
[48:41]Muslims always did when they would defeat the enemies they would take
[48:44]their possessions but you cannot touch the because you have to allow
[48:51]his family members to have a proper burial so this is a
[48:56]different situation what we're saying here is that if the person had
[49:00]sanctity when he had he was alive then he won't have sanctity
[49:05]when he is dead so our topic is what is a Muslim
[49:09]so is can we just go cut up the body of a
[49:10]Muslim and take his organs no because a Muslim has sanctity when
[49:17]he's alive he has sanctity when he's dead so this is what
[49:20]the ulema have said essentially it is haram to touch the body
[49:26]of a dead person right it says Haram to touch the body
[49:28]of a dead person so why did they say if another Muslims
[49:33]life depends on my kidney we can just come up and come
[49:36]and cut them cut the body and take the kidney why on
[49:39]what basis if it's Haram to touch the body it's Haram to
[49:44]mutilate it to cut it up because he has sanctity these are
[49:46]lemma have said look at the same time that it is haram
[49:51]to cut the body of the Muslim that Muslim because he has
[49:53]sanctity it is also why Jib mandatory to save the life of
[49:59]that second Muslim isn't it he's dying he needs a heart he
[50:02]needs a kidney we have no kidney except mine who I died
[50:06]so it is Rajab to save that second person's life and the
[50:09]only one we can save his life is if we take my
[50:13]kidney so here if we take my organ after I die and
[50:18]we give it to that second Muslim whose life depends on it
[50:21]this would be Haram from one side because we would be violating
[50:29]my sanctity but watch him from another side from another perspective because
[50:32]we'd be saving another human Muslims life correct so these two laws
[50:38]would be in conflict you have one action it's Haram from one
[50:42]side because you're violating the sanctity its watch it from another side
[50:46]because you're saving another person's life one law it's one Act but
[50:50]two laws are in conflict Haram in watches this is called at
[50:55]as 'him and legal theory I don't know if any of you
[50:57]are taking legal theory or will any time we have laws that
[51:02]are in conflict what do we do we give the priority to
[51:07]the more important one let me give you an example let's say
[51:10]I'm walking down the street one day and I see someone who's
[51:17]swimming in his private house and he's drowning is calling help help
[51:21]I'm drowning I'm dying it is why job right for me to
[51:26]save that person's life but at the same time it is haram
[51:28]for me to enter the property of that person without permission right
[51:31]I don't know if whose property this is I don't know if
[51:36]I have permission it's Haram for me to enter that house and
[51:40]go in the swimming pool take him out so here do I
[51:41]say oh I'll just let him die because it's Haram I'm committing
[51:46]a how I'm act by entering this property or no I say
[51:48]you know I should this Haram becomes Helen because saving another person's
[51:53]life is more important there is conflict here if I save this
[52:00]person's life I did a logic if I don't obviously there's I
[52:02]have left the Haram so if I save this life I will
[52:07]be doing Haram and the logic we can one Act can be
[52:08]both Holliman Rajab so we said we have to give the priority
[52:12]to the more important one which is more important not trespassing and
[52:17]to someone's property or saving someone's life of course saving someone's life
[52:22]any person will tell you well unto that person's you know yard
[52:25]enter his property and save that guy's life because saving someone's life
[52:28]is more important than any other law so we give priority to
[52:34]the more important law the same principle we apply it to organ
[52:37]donation we have two laws do not violate the sanctity of this
[52:39]Muslim don't touch my body is Haram but on the other hand
[52:43]we have to save the life of that second Muslim it's Roger
[52:48]these two come into conflict we prioritize the more important one in
[52:52]that we have to save the life of that Muslim and that's
[52:54]why these are lemma say that what these are Allah might say
[53:01]that we have to take the organ of this Muslim and give
[53:05]it to the other Muslim because saving his life is more important
[53:09]than not violating his sanctity [Music] yes if another person if another
[53:24]Muslim if another Muslims life depends on it then yes that would
[53:29]trump that would overwhelm you know the importance of his of his
[53:36]the importance of the sanctity of his body yes so yes so
[53:44]these are Dhamma what they have said and by the way say
[53:48]the Sistani and a signal Hui both they are proponents of this
[53:54]second view you can only donate to a not to a Muslim
[53:58]if his life depends on it so why did they say okay
[54:00]we understood only if his life depends on it but why did
[54:05]they say a Muslim so these are lemma I have said look
[54:07]even a non Muslims life is important right saving his life is
[54:10]important but is it more important than violating the sanctity of a
[54:18]Muslim we don't know a Muslims life is more important it will
[54:23]trump it will overwhelm it will be more important than violating the
[54:27]sanctity of you know this Haram violating the sanctity of of this
[54:31]Muslim Muslim but saving a catalyst life is important but even if
[54:39]it involves violating the sanctity of another Muslim we don't know he's
[54:44]not saying no we don't know as long as we don't know
[54:48]we cannot take this body organ and give it to that confident
[54:51]sorry we know your life is important you calculate we wish we
[54:53]could save you but the only way we could save you is
[54:57]if we go and cut up the body of a Muslim and
[55:01]that's Haram and we don't know if Allah has given us of
[55:03]that permission we don't know if saving your your life is more
[55:09]important than violating the sanctity of a moment of a Muslim because
[55:12]a member these two are in conflict so we say we said
[55:17]we prioritized them more imports more the more important one if it's
[55:20]the life of a Muslim it does overcome this Haram but if
[55:23]it's a life of a kafir they say we don't know as
[55:26]long as we don't know we have no authority to do it
[55:30]so this is the first justification the first argument of the AMA
[55:34]that say you can only donate an organ to a Muslim if
[55:40]his life depends on it so to quickly summarize our body is
[55:46]a mana from Allah what once were alive we can do whatever
[55:48]we want with the after we die we can't so I can
[55:51]just donate something to someone without their consent so why when someone's
[55:55]life depends on it we can if that person is a Muslim
[55:58]because that the saving the life of the Muslim is more important
[56:06]than the sanctity of the you know the dead Muslim now that's
[56:09]the first justification that they have given they have a second justification
[56:13]but I think time is up and this will take a couple
[56:18]of minutes and show Allah I will go over it and mention
[56:20]it in the second class after Oh Darwin and l-hamdu lillahi rabbil
[56:26]alameen wa sallahu Allah muhammadun Wadi Halfa hurry
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