ʿILMTalk: The Qurʾān, Dīn, and Ideology Part 2 | Shaykh Amin Rastani

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[0:07]Is everyone having a good time?

[0:09]No.

[0:11]Everyone asleep.

[0:14]It doesn't matter if you're having a good time.

[0:16]Are we learning stuff in these days or not?

[0:18]That's what we're here for, right?

[0:21]Inshallah.

[0:19]Alhamdulillah.

[0:22]Yes.

[0:23]Quran and ideology.

[0:25]So today inshallah to give you an overview of what we're going

[0:29]to be discussing.

[0:30]Uh we're going to talk a little bit about going to give

[0:33]you a couple examples maybe one example of how the Quran is

[0:36]a book of ideology first and foremost.

[0:40]Of course it has dos and don'ts in it but it's it's

[0:44]a book of ideology first and foremost.

[0:45]For that we're going to quote one of our great scholars that's

[0:49]alive today.

[0:51]We're going to move on into what says about approaching the Quran

[0:55]and what he has observed in his time and maybe is what

[0:58]pushed him to to write his what he saw people were doing

[1:05]wrong when it comes to of Quran and understanding Quran and approaching

[1:09]it and finally what trap and what very dangerous slippery slope one

[1:15]can end up on if the right methodologies are not taken.

[1:21]can when it comes to approaching the holy Quran and some of

[1:24]the problems that we have today that we're dealing with.

[1:26]This is what we're going to be going through today inshallah.

[1:28]Please give me a salawat.

[1:34]Yeah, there's a lot to get off of our chest when it

[1:38]comes to this topic.

[1:40]As a matter of fact, yesterday right after the talk that we

[1:43]had or that I had here, one of the brothers approached me

[1:46]and he was very fervent.

[1:47]He was you know uh there's a problem that we have you

[1:51]you spoke about and stuff but you have to also talk to

[1:54]the people about how there's a problem when it comes to certain

[1:57]people doing of Quran I said don't worry tomorrow we'll talk about

[2:00]that but I don't see him in the crowd right now so

[2:04]when it comes to the Quran this Quran is a book of

[2:08]ideology whether we like it or not it it comes to fix

[2:12]the mindset of the people first and foremost of course regarding Allahh

[2:15]and I'm going to quote Ami here and what he says regarding

[2:24]uh one example he gives of how this book is different than

[2:26]other books when it comes to giving us ideology.

[2:30]He says that science today will look at things horizontally or I'll

[2:35]explain what that means at one level horizontally.

[2:39]while the Quran will have a vertical approach to them.

[2:43]In other words, if science looks at a phenomenon such as certain

[2:48]minerals in a mountain, what does it discuss?

[2:52]It discusses what these minerals went through.

[2:53]The thousands of years they've put behind them and the thousand of

[2:58]years that are going to come.

[2:59]What are these minerals going to go through?

[3:02]These stones, whatever.

[3:02]If it's coal, how it's going to turn to diamonds, although they

[3:04]say that's not real.

[3:05]I don't know.

[3:06]I haven't looked into it.

[3:07]Is it really true that coal turns into diamonds?

[3:10]Some people have some reservations there but anyway discusses all of these

[3:16]details but at whether but when we look at it it's all

[3:19]horizontal it's all in one horizon it's all at one level but

[3:24]then he says he goes on to say but the Quran which

[3:27]of course is not a book of science it's a book of

[3:31]guidance but on the side also we'll find science in there will

[3:35]look at things vertically and he explains he says because it puts

[3:41]things into their real perspective and where they belong in the vertical

[3:46]chain of existence.

[3:45]So for example, when the Quran talks about sending I don't know

[3:50]rain, what does the Quran say?

[3:54]It says the Quran talks about okay the different fruits that come

[4:06]about as a result of the rain that is that is pouring.

[4:11]Okay, this is something scientific doesn't have much to do with our

[4:12]guidance but it plugs something in there as well.

[4:17]It adds a little special touch to it that science will not

[4:22]discuss and that is that we sent it down.

[4:25]We sent it down and we made the fruits come out vertical

[4:28]the mda which is Allah the origin of all existence then what's

[4:33]happening in this horizon and also the way it returns to the

[4:38]maad as well the relationship between everything here and him and the

[4:43]relationship between everything here and our maad and our resurrection.

[4:46]Oh, so that's not something science discusses yet.

[4:51]That's why the Quran came for to make sure that we know

[4:53]that there's other stuff going on.

[4:54]Don't get stuck at one level and see what's going on in

[4:58]this room only.

[5:00]See what's happening on the second level.

[5:00]See what's happening in the basement.

[5:02]That's what the Quran came for.

[5:05]So, it's a book of ideology, of world view, putting things into

[5:10]the their real perspective, seeing things the way they really are.

[5:13]I'm just going to say this on the side.

[5:17]this theologian he had come to a few years back uh a

[5:20]theologian from a Catholic theologian and he was talking about how all

[5:24]this Quran that you have it doesn't make sense that there's science

[5:30]in it your book is has to be a book of guidance

[5:31]not a book of science why does it talk about mountains this

[5:35]and that well he misses this point first of all second of

[5:39]all I mean I'm a shy person doesn't seem like that but

[5:43]I am so I couldn't help but to say something there I

[5:45]was Okay, fine.

[5:46]If it has science in it.

[5:47]True.

[5:47]It's not a book of science.

[5:48]But it's not a bad thing either if it has science in

[5:52]it.

[5:52]Why?

[5:53]Because at the end of the day, either that science is true

[5:54]or false that we find in the Quran.

[5:56]If it's true, then it's supporting the veracity of this book even

[6:01]further.

[6:01]What's wrong with that?

[6:02]I don't get what's wrong with that.

[6:03]It was interesting how he looks at things.

[6:05]Anyway, this book is a book of ideology.

[6:07]It's a book of and belief system.

[6:10]So now it's not going to be talking to us.

[6:13]It's a book.

[6:15]It's a book that we have to go to and actually derive

[6:18]beliefs from, understanding from.

[6:23]So this is where in the introduction of his misan explains something.

[6:26]It's as if he's reciting.

[6:28]He's upset.

[6:30]You can tell he's upset.

[6:33]And maybe this is one of the things that drove him to

[6:35]do what he did and pushed him in that direction to write

[6:39]this tap.

[6:38]These introductions to these big works of the great scholars from the

[6:44]past still today.

[6:43]They they give you so much perspective and an understanding of the

[6:50]context of the that which the amat were in.

[6:52]When you read like the introductions to the books of Kusi of

[6:57]the fifth century, you see what was going on in his time.

[6:59]Oh, he wrote this book for this purpose.

[7:01]Oh, this was a problem back then.

[7:05]She sad writes a book on the hadith of imm.

[7:08]Why?

[7:09]In his intro, he explains this is sud lived in the 4th

[7:18]century.

[7:16]Why?

[7:17]Because he says that our some of them are doubting the existence

[7:22]of I had to write this book.

[7:25]These introductions let us know what's going on.

[7:27]put put us in the context of the author of the book.

[7:30]In this introduction explains he says that he first he gives a

[7:37]little very very brief history of maybe one page and I thank

[7:40]him for that and then he goes on he says that the

[7:44]scholars of they started having differences of opinion in what in everything.

[7:50]Look at what he says.

[7:53]He says that they reached the point the muer the theologians that

[7:57]the only common ground between them and other thinkers and other scholars

[8:02]was one two things oneahill and everything else everything else was disagreed

[8:12]upon like All of these things he goes on he says they

[8:26]had difference of opinion all of these things but the Quran has

[8:28]spoken about these things.

[8:31]So each did their own had their own way of supporting their

[8:36]ideas through the Quran.

[8:36]In the end he said they started having a difference of opinion

[8:44]when it comes to understanding the Quran.

[8:52]They're going all to the Quran, but they all at the same

[8:56]time are still maintaining their own ideology as well.

[8:57]How's that possible?

[8:59]The Quran has to support one of these, not all of them.

[9:02]It's not a pluralistic kind of book.

[9:05]So he says, as for the ones who are the ones who

[9:12]are into narrations, they are what did they do?

[9:13]What they did is wherever they had a hadith on a specific

[9:21]verse a hadith that explains a verse they said okay we're understanding

[9:24]this verse alhamdulillah but wherever they didn't have a hadith for a

[9:27]verse they said we don't know what the verse is saying put

[9:29]it aside wow this wow isn't by me it's by the way

[9:39]he says wow the Quran that says I am I am a

[9:41]clarification and explanation for everything you can find an explanation of everything

[9:46]within me now needs explanation by hadith.

[9:50]The the book that is N now needs other light to to

[9:54]to shine on it so it so it can become apparent and

[9:58]clear what is meant by it.

[9:59]We thought this was a book that was going to shed light

[10:02]on everything else and so on.

[10:04]He keeps talking about these things.

[10:06]These are the he says this is wrong.

[10:09]This is wrong.

[10:11]Why?

[10:12]He says, "How can Allah not want them to use their minds

[10:18]a little bit?

[10:17]Just go to hadith." Why doesn't Allah want them to use their

[10:20]minds?

[10:20]Why would Allah not want them to use their minds a little

[10:24]bit when it comes to understanding the Quran?

[10:25]Looking at the verses, seeing what the verses are saying while it's

[10:30]the mind itself that told us that we are supposed to go

[10:32]to this book in the first place.

[10:37]When Allah sends a miracle down, do we listen to that prophet

[10:43]because he's a prophet?

[10:43]He's he claims I'm a prophet or because a miracle comes from

[10:46]Allah and our mind thinks about it's like okay this is a

[10:50]miracle really this is a miracle it comes from Allah so I

[10:52]better follow this person this is a sign that this person has

[10:55]to be followed this is mind this is the mind working this

[10:57]is the intellect the mind after hearing the Quran and thinking a

[11:04]little bit the the mind understands this is a book that has

[11:06]to be followed and the the one who brought it has to

[11:09]be followed the mind is the one that gives they call it

[11:12]to this book.

[11:15]So the mind cannot be referred to after that either at least

[11:18]to try to understand what it's saying to it's a vicious cycle

[11:24]they call it.

[11:27]So that's theologians what did they do?

[11:30]He says they all went to the Quran and they used verses

[11:34]to prove their point in their own way.

[11:34]Yeah.

[11:35]Even till today of course this is not a very relevant example.

[11:39]He doesn't give this but for example the Shia will have certain

[11:41]verses that they'll say this is this has to do with our

[11:44]imam at the way we believe in it you will have who

[11:46]will have their hadith that verses of the Quran that talk about

[11:52]the muaj and they'll use that to prove that no we will

[11:54]go to the sahaba for example every person has their arguments now

[12:00]some might be uh more more true might some might be flawed

[12:03]every person has their own but the point is everyone says see

[12:08]The Quran is saying what I'm saying.

[12:10]The philosophers, scientists, they all made sure that the verses are in

[12:13]accordance with their presumptions and assumptions.

[12:18]This is him reciting Msiah for us.

[12:21]The Sufis, the what do they say here?

[12:28]He raises his voice as if maybe he's shedding a tear or

[12:32]two.

[12:32]I don't know.

[12:34]with.

[12:35]He says they endorsed a methodology that gave people the audacity to

[12:41]do false an interpretation and they used poetic sentences and all types

[12:47]of false arguments to prove any irrelevant claim.

[12:54]They used everything to prove everything.

[12:58]Example for that for example would be the fact that the Quran

[13:02]says I created the heavens and earth or we created the heavens

[13:05]and earth in six cycles doesn't always mean day by the way

[13:11]six cycles days whatever you want to interpret that as some say

[13:16]oh this is talking about the six levels of the spiritual development

[13:20]of the human being.

[13:22]That sentence and this sentence not one word of them overlapped.

[13:26]Where did we get this out of that?

[13:29]Yeah, if you want to do if you want to identify this

[13:36]verse with something else, that's that's another thing.

[13:37]But what are the words of the sentences saying if you open

[13:43]such a door, it's a door that you open to never ending

[13:45]land.

[13:46]Anyone can say whatever they like.

[13:49]Here it's as if he's raising his voice.

[13:52]He's upset.

[13:54]Says conclusion that he comes to is he says when you look

[14:00]into all of these different approaches all of them he says we

[14:07]find a problem that is common in all of them what is

[14:08]that they all seek to impose their findings from outside impose this

[14:15]onto the Quran and then he asks a very important question he

[14:20]says are we supposed to approach the Quran and say oh Quran

[14:24]what do you have to tell Or is the question, oh Quran,

[14:28]what are you what are you supposed to be telling me?

[14:31]That's the problem.

[14:33]And you can resonate, we can all resonate with this because relate

[14:36]to this because we see it today.

[14:39]Mashallah, mashallah.

[14:41]Just because the guy both on the extremist side, the person who's

[14:47]exercising extremism will cite Quran and will have his taps.

[14:51]In the Sunni world, the Shia world, you'll see they'll have their

[14:55]celebrities, their celebrity speakers, and they will cite Quran and Quranic verses

[15:01]for some of the claims that they have.

[15:02]And you're just sitting there, you're like, "Wow, really, is that even

[15:05]possible?

[15:05]This is tough.

[15:07]This is a problem.

[15:08]What problem?

[15:09]What is the danger?

[15:10]So what if somebody, you know, it seems like this verse is

[15:15]talking about what I think?

[15:15]So what if I say this verse is talking about what I

[15:18]think?" The problem is very grave.

[15:24]The problem is called there are certain things that made sure to

[15:32]destroy.

[15:34]One of them for example would be I don't want to get

[15:38]into that.

[15:40]Some of you have heard of it.

[15:40]One of those things to give an opinion when I don't have

[15:46]the I haven't reached certainty regarding that.

[15:48]Another one is they have destroyed these concepts.

[15:54]Let's look at some in this regard.

[15:56]Before I go to those, let me just say one thing though.

[16:01]when he says all of this the philosophers this the when you

[16:08]look into his I'm saying this for those of you who might

[16:12]have you know uh read al- misan a little bit and and

[16:15]I don't want it to sound like uh this is an al-Misan

[16:17]session but as I said yesterday whether we like it or not

[16:22]this book is intertwined with anything that we talk about when it

[16:25]comes to Quran examples will come from this book usually so this

[16:28]is just an example Just want to get this straight before I

[16:32]go on.

[16:33]For those of you who've read his book a little bit, you

[16:36]see that in the end of certain parts of his book, he

[16:40]talks about you're upset about how the philosophers, how the andith were

[16:51]bringing these things when it came into the picture when they're talking

[16:54]about but you're doing the same thing in your uh you you

[17:03]you have a discussion, a philosophical discussion at the end of this

[17:06]verse, a hadith discussion at the end of that verse.

[17:12]The answer to that, brothers and sisters, is very simple.

[17:15]What he does is he tries to not make this mistake that

[17:19]we were talking about so far.

[17:22]Once he's done looking at only the verse and nothing else, then

[17:28]he'll say, "Oh, by the way, there's some hadiths in this regard.

[17:34]Let me bring it at the end of the discussion." So, he

[17:36]will go surely look at the Quran only.

[17:40]And then once he's done, he says, "Oh, as a matter of

[17:44]fact, there's a philosophical discussion here too.

[17:46]Let me just mention that and explain that too." That's his job.

[17:51]That's why as I said yesterday again refer to this book they

[17:55]they've told me this that's the number one taps we go to

[18:00]from your school at least if it was going to be philosophical

[18:04]taps they wouldn't go to it he looks at the Quran itself

[18:06]all right putting that aside let's move on this trap this slope

[18:10]of you know we're talking about slopes and it's uh snowing outside

[18:13]alhamdulillah this slope this trap of is something that was destroyed by

[18:21]because they they know that this is a door to many look

[18:27]at these hadith that I'm going to I felt is good to

[18:29]share with you Ali quotes the prophet who quotes Allah a person

[18:45]who interprets my book and my words but with his own opinion

[18:52]with his own whim and conjecture without having solid proof for it

[18:55]reaching 110% certainty this person they don't he doesn't believe in me

[19:03]believes in himself another hadith this is part of the next that

[19:12]said A person who does of Quran but at the same time

[19:22]does it with his own opinion his own understanding his own understanding

[19:28]meaning doesn't have the the proper proof for it has not used

[19:36]the proper methodology for it these things this person has ascribed lies

[19:41]to Allahhana and what do we know about that a person who

[19:43]ascribes lies to Allah how deep and trouble is that Last hadith

[19:51]here.

[19:50]Imam was asked about judging giving a he said woman that if

[20:10]you give an opinion if you give a ruling and verdict without

[20:17]reaching certainty and it's just out of wh oh this person looks

[20:20]like it belongs to them.

[20:20]Oh, that's you're in trouble, man.

[20:27]And also a person who does of but you know just out

[20:32]of you know they feel good about it.

[20:34]This makes sense.

[20:33]You know it reads with what I think then they're in trouble.

[20:37]Why?

[20:38]Because it says they're kafir.

[20:40]And this is a problem that Abu Hanifh had.

[20:42]There's a long story here that I have.

[20:43]I'm not going to go through it.

[20:44]Very shortly Abu Hanifh comes to the presence of Imam Sadi.

[20:50]Not he he gets permission to sit in the presence of immediat

[20:53]doesn't give permission once, twice, three times they ask permission.

[20:56]Immad doesn't give permission.

[21:00]Abu Hanifh sits anyway, you know.

[21:01]And he sits and I im turns him says he says he

[21:04]asked the people where's Abu is where's Abu Hanifh?

[21:07]This person they call Abu Hanifh they say this is this is

[21:08]him.

[21:09]He said oh so I hear you give fatwas.

[21:11]Yes I do.

[21:13]So tell me if you get stuck in something what do you

[21:20]do?

[21:21]This is the part we need.

[21:20]He says I practice and go by my my opinion and the

[21:30]imam gets upset of course and he says do you even know

[21:36]of Allah?

[21:35]Do you even know the of Allah properly that you're going to

[21:40]you're going to be doing something like that?

[21:42]And he reproaches him for that.

[21:43]So now today we see the same problem of course with in

[21:47]this world of communication that we live in.

[21:51]We see the people mashallah the guy is a doctor for example

[21:57]the brother and he will come out with some interesting stuff but

[21:59]that's not what the Quran is saying my friend why anything that's

[22:02]true doesn't mean the Quran has to say it.

[22:05]Yeah nowadays you see all these hadiths that are being spread around

[22:07]as a matter of fact it's not the imam who said it

[22:11]it's like Gandhi who said it but it sounds right.

[22:12]So, we're going to say that the imam said don't the the

[22:15]hand that crushes the flower but takes the fragrance or something.

[22:17]I don't know.

[22:19]I have never seen I've never seen a hadith like that maybe.

[22:20]I don't know.

[22:22]I don't know.

[22:24]But lots of hadith that you're sure they're not hadith.

[22:25]It's nice.

[22:26]It's true.

[22:27]Why do I have to make sure that the imam said it?

[22:30]The hadith have told us that your is also a rasool.

[22:34]As a matter of fact, it's the greater rasool that Allah has

[22:38]given you.

[22:38]My mind understands.

[22:39]My mind understands that this is good, this is bad.

[22:42]Sometimes I don't have to make sure that I impose it onto

[22:47]the Quran.

[22:45]A brother came to me happy.

[22:48]He's like, "Yeah, I found a verse in the Quran.

[22:49]It implies reincarnation." I was like, dude, thought the Quran came for

[22:58]other reasons to like destroy these ideas implies reincarnation to the extent

[23:04]our am are so sensitive about this issue.

[23:09]They have discussions in their books.

[23:10]A fak a wants to give a fatwa.

[23:15]Okay, this fatwa that he gives is based on a he has

[23:19]solid proof for it.

[23:21]He wants to give this fatwa.

[23:23]There's a discussion in books now that I have solid proof that

[23:35]this is what the ruling that we have to go by.

[23:36]I have proof for it.

[23:38]I have huda for it.

[23:38]I won't be held responsible on the day of judgment.

[23:42]But it is it necessarily exactly right?

[23:46]Not sure.

[23:46]So here they have a discussion on can I attribute such a

[23:52]thing that I have aud if Allah on the day of judgment

[23:56]may ask me why did you say that lobster is a halal

[23:57]although it's not I'm just saying why' you say it's halal he

[24:03]says because of this hadith that hadith this reason that reason okay

[24:05]by the way it was haram just letting you know he says

[24:09]Allah will tell this we're just saying I'm just saying but since

[24:12]you had a ha you're not going to be held responsible So

[24:16]sometimes you have a for a ruling for something that you're saying

[24:21]and attributing to Islam.

[24:22]You have a hud for it, but still you're not 100% sure.

[24:26]This is a discussion they have.

[24:30]Wow.

[24:28]They go this far that when they have a huda, can I

[24:32]still say this is what Allah says.

[24:34]This is what Islam says.

[24:36]I don't know if I'm getting across this point.

[24:42]The exact opposite is happening today.

[24:49]I don't have for what I'm saying.

[24:51]But what do I do?

[24:54]Islam says this.

[24:56]Islam says that.

[24:57]It's interesting when it comes to the Christians and Jews, they say

[25:03]I think this is the case.

[25:03]It seems as this or that.

[25:05]But when it comes to the Muslims, mashall everybody, Islam says this.

[25:09]Islam says that.

[25:12]It's interesting one was saying this once that this is one of

[25:14]his observations when it came to a dialogue with other uh scholars

[25:20]from other religions that he said I noticed or they say that

[25:23]we've noticed they say about us that you this is how you

[25:26]are we when we want to talk about our religions we're very

[25:29]cautious mashallah you guys of course they don't say mashallah you guys

[25:34]when you say something you say Islam says this but then when

[25:37]we go look we see it's not mainstream it ain't nowhere no

[25:39]stream at all can't find it anywhere.

[25:42]This these are the times that we're living in uh today.

[25:46]The for is for a Muslim and in Islam, brothers and sisters,

[25:53]it seems even if what we say is right, even if it

[25:56]turns out that this statement that I'm making on behalf of Islam

[26:02]was true, if the method that I used to get to that

[26:06]was the wrong method, I will be held responsible.

[26:10]Look at Islam.

[26:11]If your fatwa was right, but you used the wrong methodology, you

[26:17]will be held responsible.

[26:22]I wasn't sure, but oh Allah, it turns out that lobster was

[26:25]haram and I told everybody it's haram.

[26:27]Yeah, but your reason for saying it's haram because it's so ugly.

[26:30]Lobsters are ugly.

[26:32]That's why you say it's haram.

[26:34]That's not the right methodology.

[26:35]You had to have textual scripture related proof for it.

[26:41]you didn't.

[26:42]So even though your fatwa was right, you're going to be punished

[26:45]and so and so whose fatwa was wrong will not be punished

[26:49]and will not be held responsible.

[26:50]Yes, in Islam it seems not that the ends not only don't

[26:55]justify the means and that's what ba is all about.

[26:59]Not only is that the case that the ends don't justify the

[27:02]means sometimes and a lot of times if not always, the ends

[27:09]are the means.

[27:10]The ends are the means.

[27:12]How I get to something, how I achieve something is what Allah

[27:16]wants to see me do and Allah is going to be focusing

[27:21]on and rewarding or punish me, punishing me for.

[27:22]Inshallah, we keep all of that in mind.

[27:24]Nowadays, we're seeing this all over the place.

[27:27]Mashallah the ja the courage to speak on behalf of Islam we

[27:33]see it a lot the brothers sisters have to now slowly we

[27:38]have to raise our level so we can identify who is real

[27:40]and who is not real who is speaking out of conjecture whims

[27:45]and who is speaking based on solid proof

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