When Imams Spoke to Atheists - Sayed Saleh Al-Qazwini

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[0:10]one of the greatest challenges that Muslims face in this era that

[0:20]we live in is the challenge of proving and defending their faith

[0:29]today Muslims especially Muslims in the West face challenges they face misconceptions

[0:38]against the religion of Islam from one dimension Islam is accused of

[0:47]being a religion of terror Aslam is accused of being a religion

[0:51]of violence rasul allah has accused there are many misconceptions about the

[0:57]religion of islam that we face on a daily basis and from

[1:01]another dimension we see that the religion as a whole all religions

[1:07]not only the religion of islam are facing struggles there is the

[1:14]rise of atheism the rise of people not believing in God anymore

[1:19]the rise of people questioning their beliefs this is on the rise

[1:24]and in fact in North America the second most popular religion they

[1:33]call it religion now are the group of people who are considered

[1:35]to be the nuns nuns meaning they don't believe in anything they

[1:39]don't believe in anything they're the second most popular and growing group

[1:44]in the United States and in Canada so we see that this

[1:49]hasn't has had an impact on the Muslims that are living here

[1:52]on the Muslim communities on Muslim youth many of them go to

[2:00]universities many of them interact with people and they don't have an

[2:04]answer when they are when their religion is accused of being a

[2:08]religion of violence when their prophet is accused when their values are

[2:14]many Muslims have no answer and similarly when their religion is accused

[2:20]when their theology when their belief in God in front of atheists

[2:25]in front of an atheist professor a professor who is questioning their

[2:30]religion and questioning their faith using science and using modernism you see

[2:36]a lot of people have no answer a lot of people fall

[2:39]for these misconceptions they have no answer no way of defending themselves

[2:44]and defending their values and their religion there are solutions my dear

[2:50]brothers and sisters there is an answer the answer is twofold one

[2:57]we have to always resort to knowledge we have to always resort

[3:03]to education Rossano masala Mahalo you Ali and the idol Bates when

[3:06]they spread the religion when was sort of last spread the religion

[3:12]he did not use the power of emotions he did not appeal

[3:14]to the emotions of people but rather he appealed to the intellects

[3:20]and similarly we have to do the same thing one of the

[3:23]beauties of the religion of Islam is that Islam is not afraid

[3:28]of knowledge Aslam is not afraid of science Aslam is not afraid

[3:33]of advancements no in fact it was the religion of Islam that

[3:36]embraced science in fact a lot of the science that we know

[3:42]today received a push from the religion of Islam it received promotion

[3:47]from the religion of Islam and from the early Muslims so Islam

[3:51]is not afraid of science Islam is not afraid of Elam in

[3:56]fact Islam calls us all to do to uphold and to use

[4:01]our reason and to do to affect core thinking and analyzing this

[4:04]is what Islam calls for us to do in fact your religion

[4:09]is going to be questioned if you don't think because you're going

[4:13]to be believing in God you're going to be praying you're going

[4:16]to be going to Hajj you're going to be doing everything that

[4:18]you're supposed to do but there's no solid foundation so it's Lam

[4:23]says go and seek knowledge and don't be afraid of any science

[4:28]out there be afraid of knowledge this is one the first solution

[4:33]is to use knowledge and science and embrace knowledge to be able

[4:38]to defend the truth and defend our Lord and defend our God

[4:45]second it's through our o'clock through our morality through our etiquette the

[4:50]way we deal with people you might find some people they have

[4:53]the knowledge but no one could come near them this is not

[4:56]how I sort of Lamas this is now how the Alan Bates

[5:01]were rasulullah sallallahu aleyhi wa now was a person who was so

[5:07]approachable fabbi marmatan min allah al Intelli home when Okun Tov of

[5:12]Vanga leave a local landfill woman howling Allah tells the Prophet that

[5:17]you were sent out of the mercy of allah subhanaw taala it

[5:21]was because of God's mercy he sent to us a man like

[5:23]Rasul Allah and then he says when Oh Kunta fathan an evil

[5:29]Kyle if you were rude if you did not tolerate people no

[5:32]one would be around you no one would want to listen to

[5:36]you what does it mean to have proper etiquette when we're dealing

[5:39]with people does it mean that I just smile and I'm nice

[5:43]when I'm talking to people no it also means that I have

[5:45]to be tolerant of other people it means that when someone comes

[5:50]and tells me something that I don't like something that perhaps may

[5:54]go against my values I'm not going to judge that person I'm

[5:57]going to give that person an opportunity I'm going to talk to

[6:01]that person I'm going to listen to what questions this person has

[6:05]you know I find some youth they come and they say I

[6:09]go and I ask my parents about God and proving to me

[6:13]God and things like that and my parents they get angry at

[6:15]me and they start yelling at me of course that's not going

[6:19]to bring an answer that's not going to bring the solution this

[6:23]is why Allah subhana Allah orders Rasul Allah in Tooele Sibylla big

[6:28]bill hikmah well more ever till husana which I did home bility

[6:33]hearson invite people towards the path of your Lord with what bellick

[6:39]wisdom one more little husana and good admonishments and if they are

[6:47]debating with you if it came down to debate which I didn't

[6:50]home Belletti he ass and debate and the best way possible this

[6:56]means don't resort to violence don't resort to accusations don't resort to

[7:02]attacks and when we look at the profits when we look at

[7:04]our leaders when we look at our role models we see that

[7:09]this is exactly how they were during the time of Rasulullah during

[7:12]the time of the prophets people would come and they would question

[7:18]their faith people would question God in front of a prophet how

[7:21]did the prophets how did the Imams deal with these people during

[7:24]the time of Imam Sadiq alehissalaam there was a rise in atheism

[7:28]there was a rise and people rejecting their beliefs yes this happened

[7:36]during the time of Imam Sadiq alehissalaam because there was a movement

[7:41]there was a movement of relative freedom that existed at that time

[7:47]because one government fell venya Maha and another government came to power

[7:52]been in Abbas and therefore the authorities they did not have a

[7:56]solid grip on the community and on society and it was during

[8:01]that time that many works of philosophers Greek philosophers and Roman philosophers

[8:05]were entering into the Muslim land so here you have different thoughts

[8:10]different views that are emerging and one of the thoughts that emerged

[8:15]was the thought of atheism people started questioning their belief people started

[8:20]questioning God and people started questioning creationism and of course we see

[8:27]that the imams of the other debates they answered all of these

[8:31]questions and misconceptions and the best way possible they didn't resort to

[8:37]violence they didn't resort to accusations and attacks they weren't intolerant because

[8:42]the one who's not tolerant is the one who is not backed

[8:45]by intellect if you have the intellect if you have the proof

[8:52]you're not going to be intolerant and this is how the Alan

[8:55]Bates were not nod allele we are the ones who used the

[8:59]Deline we used the proof when we talk to people we don't

[9:01]need to resort to intolerance or any other methods or means and

[9:08]of course it was arise but we see that it was the

[9:09]ATLA debate it was rasulallah and the family of rasulallah they were

[9:15]the only ones who were equipped to answer the misconceptions of the

[9:18]time because they have the knowledge they have the education and they

[9:22]have the o'clock you're not going to find these two qualities these

[9:27]two ingredients with anyone else other than the school of a debate

[9:30]on a home cinema where they have the knowledge from Allah subhana

[9:37]Allah and they have the best etiquettes there was a man during

[9:40]the time of Imam Sadiq by the name of Abu shockula Dasani

[9:46]this man at Dasani he was one of these Anna Dhaka he

[9:48]was one of the atheist of the time and he goes to

[9:53]one of the students of Imam Sadiq by the name of Hashem

[9:55]abdel hakim he goes to his shaman al hakam and he tells

[10:02]him o hashem you believe in God Hashem tells him yes I

[10:04]believe in God it tells him do you believe that your Lord

[10:10]is powerful he's capable of doing anything he says yes I believe

[10:13]my lord is capable my Lord can do anything he tells him

[10:19]can your Lord take this dunya this dunya that we have take

[10:23]it and place it in an egg without making the egg bigger

[10:30]and without making the dunya smaller now of course this is something

[10:33]that's impossible this goes against the laws of creation this goes against

[10:38]the laws of reason Allah subhana Allah created this world and he

[10:44]created laws a white wall cannot be black wall at the same

[10:47]time there is there are different thing things that are binaries things

[10:50]that are different from one another and there are laws of existence

[10:55]but this man has shine abdel hakim he didn't have an answer

[10:57]even though a shaman al hakam was a boatman he was a

[11:01]believer and he was one of them with akeli mean he was

[11:03]one of those people who were very strong in the science of

[11:09]theology and debates with other people by shyamalan how come he tells

[11:13]him I don't have an answer for you but I will go

[11:17]and I will bring you an answer I will shock you at

[11:21]Dasani he tells him go and come back in a year I'm

[11:23]going to give you a whole year he's ridiculing him he's mocking

[11:27]him he tells him go and come back in a year then

[11:29]we'll see if you have an answer her shaman will hack him

[11:34]right away he gets up and he goes to him I'm sorry

[11:38]Sarah he goes to the Imam and he tells him oh my

[11:39]dear master there's as in deal there's a an atheist out there

[11:44]who came and he told me this how can you place this

[11:46]whole dunya in an egg without making the egg bigger and without

[11:52]making the dunya smaller so the Imam RA salami tells him o

[11:55]Hashem how many senses do you have how many senses do you

[12:00]have he tells him I have five senses he tells him what

[12:04]is your smallest of the senses he says the smallest is my

[12:09]eyes the smallest of the senses it's my eyes it's a small

[12:12]eyeball with the pupils that are very small the Imam tells him

[12:17]Oh a sham what do you see with your eyes he tells

[12:19]him I see the mountains I see the deserts I see the

[12:25]Sun I see the valleys I see the rivers I see all

[12:29]of this in front of me the Imam tells him oh Hashem

[12:35]the one who is capable of placing this whole dunya in these

[12:39]small eyes is also capable of placing the dunya and an egg

[12:46]however Allah has laws Allah has laws of creation Hashanah and Hakeem

[12:50]he took the answer from the Imam and right away he goes

[12:53]said they saw me he goes said they saw me and he

[12:57]tells him I have brought you the answer and he tells him

[13:01]what the Imam Ali is salam says and at the sign he

[13:03]is shocked this is the first time he's seen someone who is

[13:09]able to answer his misconception in a very beautiful way in a

[13:14]very beautiful way very precise way he's able to answer him so

[13:18]a Dasani he what's up and he says I'm going to go

[13:20]and see him I'm sad he doesn't believe in him but he

[13:26]says I'm going to go and see this man in Masada so

[13:31]he goes and he sees imam sadiq ali Sonam and of course

[13:35]he still wants to debate the Imam but the Imam Ali Saddam

[13:41]is very respectful the Imam is following the verse in the Quran

[13:44]Allah Sibylla big bill Hekmati well more ever till husana which I

[13:50]deal humble let's see he asks and the Imams not resorting to

[13:53]intolerance and violence the Imam says let's see what this man has

[13:57]to say because perhaps there's a chance that this person is going

[14:00]to be guided I'm not going to shut the door in front

[14:04]of this person's face perhaps there's a chance he's going to be

[14:07]guided so he tells him at the signing he tells him I'm

[14:13]sorry Valley Salaam he tells him Medellin Allah and lettuce on Yun

[14:17]he tells him what's the Delisle what's the proof that you have

[14:23]been created that you have someone a power that has created you

[14:28]so the Imam Allah's Salam he tells him I see myself in

[14:32]two scenarios either I am the Creator or I am the created

[14:37]either I am the harlot I am the Sonic or I have

[14:42]been created if we go to the first scenario if I am

[14:50]the creator either I created something from things that were already there

[14:55]something that already existed I created something which already existed then I

[15:00]am NOT the real creator whoever created at first as the original

[15:04]creator if I created something that already existed that doesn't mean that

[15:09]I'm the Creator someone else came before me and created or I

[15:14]created something out of nothing and you know that you can't create

[15:19]anything out of nothing so therefore we go to the third option

[15:27]and that is I have been created and there has been a

[15:29]creator that has created me now today there's a rise in a

[15:38]movement in the era of modernism in the era of post-modernism there's

[15:41]a rise of a movement of a thinking that says you know

[15:46]what religion is for people who lived many centuries ago religion is

[15:52]for people who had no power today in the age of science

[15:54]in the age of technology in the age of post-modernism we don't

[15:58]need religion anymore before the farmer used to pray wanting grain to

[16:03]come today I could just go to the Weather Channel and I

[16:07]could find out when it's going to rain before people didn't know

[16:10]what diseases they had in them today I go to the doctor

[16:14]he does an MRI she does an MRI on me and they

[16:17]find out what disease I have and they give me the cure

[16:19]and therefore some they come and they say religion is dead we

[16:25]don't need religion God is dead they say that there is no

[16:27]need to worship anymore before people used to worship now there's no

[16:31]need to worship religion is irrelevant today is that the case of

[16:36]course not the problem is people they have a little bit of

[16:44]power and they start thinking that religion is irrelevant God is irrelevant

[16:49]when in fact everything that we have even the things that we

[16:53]have created the advancements in science and in technology and everything that

[16:57]is creating something that was already there we are bringing the material

[17:03]the original material was already created for us a loss of a

[17:08]note Allah is the one who created the original material and allah

[17:12]subhanaw taala is the one who gave us the intellect so we

[17:15]are not the creators we are not the original creators the original

[17:19]creators the one who gave us the original resources that we have

[17:26]for that are there for us but of course you find people

[17:29]that they have a little bit of power they've achieved a few

[17:34]things and then they come and they become so arrogant even the

[17:37]doctor the doctor that comes and gives you medication that the doctor

[17:40]create that medication himself or herself no the doctors using something that

[17:46]is already they're extracting from plants from animals from the resources that

[17:52]allah subhanho wa taala has created and they're putting things together so

[17:59]we are not the creators we are not the ones who have

[18:02]actually created there was a man that came to mama Sadiq alehissalaam

[18:06]by the name of eben a Beluga abdel karim had been a

[18:12]beluga he comes today mom and that man was an atheist too

[18:17]he tells him your Lord he tells him I'm Sadiq he tells

[18:19]him your Lord is capable of creating everything the Imam tells him

[18:23]yes Allah has capable of creating everything he tells him I am

[18:29]also a collip I am also a creator they mom tells him

[18:33]how do you create he says I go and I defecate somewhere

[18:35]and then a few days later I come and I see that

[18:39]my feces has turned into worms I am the also a creator

[18:44]I created those worms the Imam alayhis-salam he tells him shouldn't the

[18:49]Creator know everything about the creation every precise detail about the creation

[18:54]if you built a house you should know where everything is you

[18:57]should know all the details if you made a car you should

[19:00]know everything about that car he tells them shouldn't the Creator know

[19:03]everything about the creation every nyjah he says yes the Creator should

[19:08]know everything about the creation then the Imam tells him ok then

[19:14]tell me those worms which one is male and which one is

[19:15]female which one how old they are tell me the exact details

[19:21]about them he didn't have an answer he didn't have an answer

[19:24]and this is proof that he is not the creator now allah

[19:29]subhanho wa taala is the original creator however we see people they

[19:34]become arrogant when they have a little bit of power when they

[19:38]have a little bit of authority some people they start turning even

[19:43]against their Lord they start having the audacity to turn against allah

[19:55]azza wajal and who is the real power who does real power

[19:58]belong to some of us we think we have some authority in

[20:04]this dunya we think that we are powerful powers relative and reality

[20:10]a day will come when every powerful person every person who has

[20:15]an authority every Ummah nation civilizations they were wiped off the face

[20:20]of this earth civilizations that thought that they were so powerful civilizations

[20:26]that viewed themselves that they are so powerful and they have reached

[20:30]the ultimate heights they were wiped off the face of this earth

[20:37]and they're nowhere to be remembered they're forgotten Allah talks about civilizations

[20:41]that were so powerful Elam tara kayfa fire a Booker behad aramid

[20:47]ITIL Ahmad and let's heal a Munich miss loja filled Balad with

[20:55]a Moodle Levine job of Sakura bill word was Aruna del out

[21:00]I Delevingne otago phil Balad so actor roofie Hal facade allah subhanaw

[21:06]taala gives us examples iran the people of prophethood the mood the

[21:11]people of prophets allah allah subhanaw taala talks about Aaron and I'm

[21:15]a dad Ahmad they used to build pillars skyscrapers at that time

[21:21]at that time they thought that they had reached the heights of

[21:25]civilization they had built their own skyscrapers aramid artillery mad and let's

[21:31]heal a mere luck myth lo ha fill blood no one had

[21:37]created anything like what they had created what happened to Iran what

[21:41]happened to the mood what happened to firown' who used to be

[21:44]so powerful and he used to say an Arabic Oh Malala a

[21:49]day came when he saw all of his power taken away from

[21:55]him so today those people who say we are strong we are

[21:58]powerful we have advancements in science and in technology and we don't

[22:01]need God anymore no you do need God because you are weak

[22:05]despite how strong you might think you are you are poor despite

[22:11]how rich you might think you are Alex under the grates he

[22:17]was a conqueror Alexander the Great's during his time he conquered most

[22:22]of the known world on his deathbed he gathers his family and

[22:30]he wants to write to us Lea he wants to write a

[22:32]will he tells them when I die I want the doctors to

[22:38]carry my casket I don't want my family to carry my casket

[22:41]I want the doctors the best doctors in my country and my

[22:46]government I want them to be carrying my caskets and second I

[22:49]want you to place my hand out of the casket out of

[22:54]the coffin and third when I died when they placed me in

[23:00]the grave I want them to throw some of the gold in

[23:01]the grave they told him why why are you saying this he

[23:07]tells them I want the doctors to be carrying me so that

[23:12]people will understand that even the best doctors of the time they

[23:17]couldn't save my life the best doctors the most advanced doctors they're

[23:21]not able to save my life second I want you to put

[23:27]my hand out so that everyone sees everyone who I used to

[23:30]rule everyone who I had power and authority over I want them

[23:35]to see that I leave empty handed I don't have anything with

[23:37]me and third I want them to see the gold in my

[23:42]grave it doesn't help me it doesn't do anything to me it

[23:45]doesn't take me out of my grave and it doesn't take me

[23:50]from my misery or from the death that I'm in this is

[23:55]the weakness my dear brothers and sisters there comes a time when

[23:59]we will be weak despite how strong we are so why should

[24:01]we feel arrogant why should we feel pride and not turn to

[24:07]allah subhana wa ta'ala in fact perhaps it's better to place ourselves

[24:15]in the place where it belongs in the place of weakness because

[24:20]that is when we connect with allah subhanaw taala this is why

[24:24]allah so allah sallallahu alayhi wa ala he says a bush itla

[24:28]Sartain nanofy ha ha Ankara he says the best hour for me

[24:36]is an hour that I'm hungry and afraid why why would anyone

[24:38]want to be hungry and afraid he says because only when I'm

[24:42]hungry and I'm afraid that's when I realized that no one can

[24:45]help me other than allah subhanaw taala that's when I'm the closest

[24:50]to Allah subhana WA Ta'ala one day a man comes to him

[24:56]a methodical as Salaam and he tells him I want to feel

[24:57]the presence of my lord the Imam tells him have you ever

[25:05]been in a shipwreck have you ever traveled in the sea he

[25:08]tells him yes he says has your ship ever collapsed and broken

[25:13]in the middle of the ocean he says yes it has he

[25:19]tells him at that moment when the waves were surrounding you and

[25:22]you felt so weak in the middle of the ocean and there's

[25:27]no ship there's no one that is able to help you did

[25:29]your heart yearn for anything did your heart yearn for anyone he

[25:35]says yes I had faith that there's a power that's going to

[25:37]help me at faith I had hope that there's a strong power

[25:42]that is able to be there for me and able to help

[25:44]me they mom tells him that powers allah subhanaw taala and i'm

[25:49]sure we've all experienced this when there's a little bit of turbulence

[25:53]in the plane you see everyone they start turning to God you

[25:55]see everyone they start praying in their own languages in their own

[26:00]way they start praying they start worshipping because sometimes we need to

[26:05]feel weak to be reminded of allah subhanaw taala but that shouldn't

[26:09]be the case we should always remind ourselves of allah subhana wa

[26:14]ta'ala and the power of allah subhanaw taala of course there are

[26:21]some who are blinded and there are others who see the reality

[26:24]and see the truth the same man at Dasani who came to

[26:28]the imam alayhis-salam and who asked about the egg about the dunya

[26:32]being in an egg without the dunya becoming bigger and the egg

[26:37]becoming smaller he comes to the imam alehissalaam he comes to the

[26:42]imam and he tells him after he spoke to the Imam he

[26:44]tells him about Abdullah Delaney a Lama Budi o my master o

[26:50]a Baba guide me to the one who I'm supposed to worship

[26:53]he wasn't arrogant he tells him guide me to the one who

[26:58]I'm supposed to pray to the one who I'm supposed to worship

[27:02]so the Imam alayhis-salam there was a young child next to the

[27:05]imam who had an egg in front of him the Imam tells

[27:09]him give me that egg he takes that egg and he tells

[27:11]him o day signee do you see this egg he says yes

[27:15]he tells them this egg has an outer shell outer shell a

[27:22]layer that's protecting it and beneath that there is another shell that

[27:27]is also protecting it and under that there's white and beneath the

[27:31]white there is a yellow or a gold the gold does not

[27:37]mix with the white and the white does not mix with the

[27:43]gold nothing comes in it to damage it it is protected nothing

[27:45]comes out of it to tell us what's in it is it

[27:50]going to be a male is it going to be a female

[27:54]but once it hatches it brings something as beautiful as the peacock

[27:59]something as beautiful with the colors of the peacock do you think

[28:04]that this has been organized and prepared and planned by a power

[28:08]he says yes and then a Dasani says ashhadu an la ilaha

[28:16]illallah muhammadan rasulallah wannna qawalli la solana muhammad wa ala muhammad the

[28:27]Imam Ali Salaam you used something as simple as an egg as

[28:32]simple as an egg everyone eats an egg everyone has seen an

[28:35]egg all it takes is for you to come and see this

[28:38]egg and it will lead you to allah subhanaw taala in fact

[28:44]everything around us leads us allah subhanaw taala allah has given us

[28:48]20/20 vision he's given us senses he's given us hearing taste smell

[28:55]all these senses but there are some people who still have the

[28:58]audacity to reject allah subhanaw taala despite the fact that he has

[29:05]given them all of these senses but their hearts are blind and

[29:07]allah says in the quran that some perhaps some people their hearts

[29:11]they see very well but their hearts are blind the hearts are

[29:19]blind to the reality out there in front of us allah says

[29:23]in the quran or am i at in a philosophy Wafi am

[29:29]forsome hat IATA bayon Elohim and no luck and we shall show

[29:33]them all of the signs in the horizons and in yourselves there

[29:39]are signs that will lead you to allah subhanaw taala look at

[29:42]the universe look at the Stars look at the moon look at

[29:48]the solar system there's a system and everything from the greatest large-scale

[29:56]creation to the smallest universe to the smallest cells in your body

[30:01]allah subhanaw taala has created a system to your DNA all the

[30:03]way to the solar system there's a system there's precise precision a

[30:10]man comes to mama ravana salam and he tells him what is

[30:13]the proof that there's a creator he tells him when i look

[30:18]at myself and i see that i have no control of everything

[30:21]I didn't choose when I came I don't choose when I die

[30:25]I don't choose how I'm going to die I can't make my

[30:29]life better or make my life worse everything is in the hands

[30:32]of allah subhanaw taala that is the proof that there is a

[30:37]lord above me that is the proof that there is a god

[30:38]odd that shows me the way there's a god that has created

[30:43]me but of course some people they don't see some people they're

[30:48]blinded by this reality a man comes to my Mali alehissalaam by

[30:56]the name of that Lib Ali Imani he tells the Imam alehissalaam

[30:58]Hal Dora eight Arabic have you seen your Lord M I'm Ali

[31:03]alehissalaam he tells him kafir abidor Abunda Marah how can I worship

[31:09]a Lord that I have not seen he tells him how have

[31:13]you seen him tell me how have you seen your Lord the

[31:15]Imam alehissalaam he tells him latitude Rikuo UHN be Mucha Hidatsa lion

[31:24]well I can to Jericho whole boob be haka Ethel Nieman he

[31:28]tells him the eyes cannot see allah subhanaw taala but the hearts

[31:34]can see allah subhanaw taala today do we have to see everything

[31:37]with our eye to believe right now scientists they're coming and they're

[31:41]telling us about things that happened millions of years ago and people

[31:45]believe it because it's based on evidence empirical evidence so why is

[31:49]it that when they see the evidence of a scientist and they

[31:53]believe in the Big Bang and they believe in all of these

[31:55]things that took place which Islam has no issue with but when

[32:01]we see all of the signs of a creator all of the

[32:03]sophistication in the universe that lead to a creator why is it

[32:10]that some people reject this some people they say no I have

[32:13]to see there's a problem with this there's a problem with saying

[32:18]I have to see my god I have to see my lord

[32:22]why because if you see allah subhanaw taala if you sense god

[32:25]if you want to feel God in a place in a time

[32:29]through your eyes or anything then that means you're limiting God and

[32:32]God is the unlimited God cannot be limited by definition allah subhanaw

[32:36]taala as the one who was not limited but if you could

[32:41]see God then that means you're limiting him in a specific place

[32:43]in a specific time in a specific location so this is why

[32:51]we can't see God second creation and this chances are the creation

[32:55]of God allah subhanaw taala he's though he's the one who created

[32:58]matter he's the one who created place and time how can I

[33:04]come and restrict allah subhanaw taala to the laws of his own

[33:09]creation time some people they come and they say ok who created

[33:12]Allah if Allah created everything then who created God this is a

[33:16]wrong question why is it a wrong question because Allah is the

[33:20]one who created time we understand time as a creation by allah

[33:25]subhanho to Allah Allah has not trapped in his own creation so

[33:30]you can't say then who created God it's the wrong question because

[33:33]he's the one who created time he's the one who created matter

[33:37]he's the one who created place so allah subhanaw taala cannot be

[33:46]trapped in his own creation and finally the third reason we can't

[33:50]see God because we can't handle seeing God one day a man

[33:53]comes to the imam ali salam and he tells him let me

[33:57]see my god I want to see allah subhanaw taala day mom

[34:03]tells him you want to see God look at the son he

[34:05]looks up and he sees I can't look at the Sun you

[34:08]can't look straight into the Sun he lowers his eyes they mom

[34:14]tells him look again he looks he can't see he lowers his

[34:16]eyes the amount tells him you can't see one of the creation

[34:21]one of the small creation of God and you expect to see

[34:24]God you can't see the Sun you know the Sun it's a

[34:28]star it's one of the stars and there are billions and trillions

[34:31]of stars out there they say there are more stars in the

[34:37]universe and the cosmos system then there are grains of sand on

[34:41]earth the Sun is one of these small creations of allah subhanaw

[34:48]taala and we can't even look at the Sun and we expect

[34:50]to look at allah subhana we are weak we are limited we

[34:58]can't come and try to conceive perceive a loss of Hannah Allah

[35:02]and understand and comprehend Allah subhanAllah but of course you find some

[35:08]people they still reject they still have the audacity to reject a

[35:13]man comes to mama Rafa and instead I'm and also a mom

[35:17]side up the same story the Imams used the same proof he

[35:19]comes to the imam ali salam and i Mirada he tells him

[35:23]this man was an atheist mama rosa tells him let's say that

[35:29]what you're saying is true even though it's not true at the

[35:33]end you and us were going to be the same the believers

[35:38]and the non-believers were going to be the same because we didn't

[35:42]really lose anything by praying by fasting by going to hajj by

[35:45]giving charity it didn't it didn't ruin our lives in fact it

[35:50]made our lives better when I'm praying I'm disciplining myself when I'm

[35:54]giving charity I'm helping the poor I'm being a productive member of

[35:57]my society a productive member of my community when I refrained from

[36:01]alcohol when I refrained from pork when I refrained from the vices

[36:05]gambling and the vices I'm actually doing something good so he tells

[36:11]him if it turns out that there is no God then we

[36:14]did not lose and you did not lose anything but if it

[36:19]turned out that there is a God if it turned out that

[36:23]there is a God which there is a God we are going

[36:28]to be the victorious ones and you're going to be the loser

[36:31]on the day of judgment now any person who knows the laws

[36:37]of probability and mathematics will see that it makes much more sense

[36:40]to believe in God it makes much more sense mathematically using your

[36:44]own reason to believe in God to accept God and to worship

[36:47]God and when we worship it's not like allah subhanaw taala it's

[36:52]placing honest burdens that we cannot tolerate allah subhanaw taala created us

[36:57]and gave us a system of life a system that will bring

[37:02]us closer to allah subhanaw taala that will make our life and

[37:05]our afterlife better so my dear brothers and sisters these are some

[37:10]examples of how the imams alayhim as-salam dealt with the atheist of

[37:17]their time the imams did not resort to in tall they didn't

[37:19]resort to violence in fact they resorted to reason they resorted to

[37:23]wisdom Hitler oli sabili Robbie cable Hekmati Wilmore Everton husana Waddell um

[37:31]let's see here arson and if we want to be successful in

[37:36]the challenges that we face in our society today the challenges of

[37:41]misconceptions against the religion of Islam the misconceptions against faith then we

[37:47]have to also use the power of reason intellect and use proper

[37:55]morality and etiquettes the same way the prophets and rasool allah and

[37:59]the a debate on a home salaam did well hamdu lillahi rabbil

[38:02]alameen wa sallahu ammidon wah [Music] [Music]

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