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[2:17][Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] muhammad thank you

[4:11]brother mustafa for the beautiful recitation can we give him another loud

[4:15]salawat salaam alaikum again i welcome you to our friday night program

[4:23]this is a collaboration between the muslim youth connection the faith community

[4:29]health initiative and the islamic institute of america a quick reminder before

[4:33]i pass the mic over make sure you're wearing your face masks

[4:36]at all times and please make sure you're stan you're sitting on

[4:41]a piece of tape underneath you that way you are properly socially

[4:43]distanced with that i'm going to pass the mic over to our

[4:49]moderator tonight she's dr maha el hosseini she's and she's an endocrinologist

[4:54]at metro detroit endocrinology she is also a member of the faith

[4:58]community health initiative can we please welcome her with aloud salah muhammad

[5:26]salaam alaikum and good evening everyone on behalf of the faith community

[5:33]health initiative at the islamic institute of america we are pleased to

[5:39]present to you this educational session on the covet 19 pandemic and

[5:43]the current vaccines available there is no doubt that we are living

[5:50]in uncertain and challenging times in many aspects just like we have

[5:53]an array of information available at everyone's disposal we also have an

[5:57]equal amount of misinformation the result is confusion lack of trust and

[6:04]the inability to make informed decisions since knowledge is power the health

[6:10]committee at the iia has put together a group of panelists from

[6:15]different backgrounds in order to share their respective expertise with the community

[6:20]today's panel includes dr hamami the chief health strategist for wayne county

[6:27]who has been a prominent figure in leading the response to the

[6:31]covet-19 pandemic in the area previously dr hamami has served many roles

[6:37]including serving as the chief health officer and the director of the

[6:45]department of health veterans and community wellness in wayne county today dr

[6:48]hamami will be educating us on the kobit 19 pandemic from a

[6:53]medical standpoint as well as providing us with an update on the

[6:57]vaccine situation our second speaker will be michigan state representative mr hamud

[7:03]who will be speaking about the response at the federal and and

[7:08]state levels last but not least our final speaker will be imam

[7:14]sayet hassan kozwini who will be guiding us on making sense of

[7:18]this pandemic and vaccine therapy from a religious and spiritual perspective in

[7:25]the end we will have a q a session so if you

[7:28]can please leave your questions until the end of the session without

[7:33]further ado i'd like to call upon our first speaker for today

[7:37]dr hamami who will be covering the medical aspect of this session

[7:42]thank you dr muna uh assalamualaikum everybody uh good to be here

[7:50]and glad to be back i i have had so many uh

[7:53]uh i was honored to be with uh kozwini on a couple

[7:58]of occasions including how we interact with our community and i echo

[8:04]what dr mona said there is a lot of misinformation that is

[8:08]circulating out there and i'm sure many of you belong to at

[8:13]least one if not more than one group of whatsapp and you

[8:16]see all those videos that are coming from the old country from

[8:21]the new country and from no country sometimes which is is truly

[8:27]disturbing because um this these uh misfacts can affect those of us

[8:33]that have the hesitancy we as human beings have the hesitancy and

[8:37]the the reluctance and the fear of anything that we do not

[8:41]know or we do not understand and the best thing to to

[8:47]tackle anything that you do not know is with facts and with

[8:51]science so sometimes unfortunately many of those rumors are sugar coated with

[8:58]some scientific flavor and it becomes very hard to convince people about

[9:03]many of the things that they know and at the end of

[9:08]the day this is going to affect how we react and specifically

[9:11]our community our community has been one of the hardest hit during

[9:16]this pandemic not because of anything that we did wrong not because

[9:20]of who we are not because of what we believe in our

[9:24]community has been hit the hardest because there are some cultural understandings

[9:30]and cultural behaviors that are part of how we live we are

[9:35]more social than others we live as big families there are generations

[9:38]that share the same household we tend to to be passionate about

[9:44]the things that we believe in in addition to also that we

[9:48]saw the disparities in how this pandemic has been affecting different ethnicities

[9:54]and different minorities and and and that is evident in why we

[9:59]see it more in our communities versus others so with that intro

[10:05]i i know there were several uh questions that i was asked

[10:09]to cover um some of them are very basic about the disease

[10:13]itself i'll try not to spend so much time on it and

[10:17]i want to spend a little bit more time on the vaccine

[10:18]itself which i'm sure many of you are eager to know more

[10:23]about and then i would like to leave more time for a

[10:25]dialogue and for conversation where i can answer any of your questions

[10:30]that you might have so starting with the basic of when we

[10:32]talk about covid19 which is a disease that is caused by the

[10:39]kovi the sarsko v2 or the more known as the coronavirus when

[10:45]we talk about viruses viruses are different than bacterias bacterias are pathogens

[10:49]that infect the body in a certain way with viruses there is

[10:56]more an invasive way where a virus goes into someone's cells and

[11:01]inject its own genetic material and it starts using your own body

[11:08]to duplicate and replicate and this is how viruses reproduce inside our

[11:13]body and each virus of course has its own characteristics of what

[11:16]it attacks and all that so the sarsko v2 is is called

[11:21]a novel virus because it is new but in reality it is

[11:25]not very new we have had encounters with members of its family

[11:29]specifically the coronavirus if you remember in the 2000 there was the

[11:35]tsars and it didn't hit the us as much but it was

[11:41]very specifically known in china and all that so sars is a

[11:43]coronavirus when in the mid 2000s there was the immersed the middle

[11:52]eastern respiratory syndrome and that was mostly in saudi arabia and in

[11:56]the middle eastern countries and it was thought to be transmitted by

[12:00]camels and this is why it was there this was also a

[12:03]coronavirus so this one that we have seen is from that family

[12:07]but it was new because it had a whole different characteristics of

[12:13]how it acts um so how does the vaccine enter how does

[12:17]the virus enters your body specifically this one is transmitted via respiratory

[12:22]system so droplets are the first way that it travels someone coughs

[12:29]or sneezes or even talks loudly then it is believed that six

[12:34]feet and this is why when we say social distancing for six

[12:38]feet this is how far those droplets would travel and those droplets

[12:41]would contain the virus so someone that is sitting closer to you

[12:45]than six feet and let's say you sneeze or you cuff or

[12:50]even breathe sometimes that droplet can be inhaled by the other person

[12:53]and once then inhaled if it contains the virus it goes into

[12:56]the body and as we said the virus itself why is it

[13:00]called corona because and the reason and i'm not going to be

[13:03]too scientific about it but the reason it's called corona because many

[13:06]of us have seen a picture of the virus by now right

[13:11]it's a big ball and it has spikes those spikes are like

[13:13]a crown it's like a tag around around the virus and this

[13:19]is why it's called coronavirus from the crown those spikes are responsible

[13:24]for sticking to the human cell they're called receptors so those spikes

[13:28]go and there are receptors on our cells and those spikes now

[13:32]adhere to our cells and this is how it goes into our

[13:38]body and starts uh replicating or duplicating this virus is again a

[13:47]respiratory virus what is what made it a little bit more i

[13:50]wouldn't call it deadly but at least scary or or one is

[13:54]because it's new we don't know enough about it two because it's

[13:59]reacted in very unpredictable ways so some people would have it they

[14:05]would not show any symptoms and we call those asymptomatic and these

[14:08]are dangerous because you don't know that you're sick so if you're

[14:11]not sick you're not staying home if you're not sick you're feeling

[14:14]well then you're out and socializing and doing all kind of stuff

[14:18]but you carry the virus and you're spreading it so this is

[14:20]the worst way to to to carry the virus then there are

[14:25]those that are symptomatic but it's very mild it's a slight fever

[14:28]slight runny nose as if you had the flu you don't really

[14:32]know what to do it doesn't last long and all that and

[14:35]we call that mild but then there are the severe cases of

[14:38]this and of course the proportion of the severity is is proportional

[14:44]to the age young people when they get the virus they probably

[14:48]are asymptomatic and have very mild symptoms but as the older gets

[14:53]it the older population gets it this is where the severity becomes

[14:56]harder and in some cases because it's a respiratory virus because it

[15:01]affects the function of the lung it then affects the oxygen exchange

[15:06]oxygen is very important and this is where if someone goes into

[15:09]what we call hypoxia which is a lower level of oxygen in

[15:15]their system sometimes it can go to a complete shutdown of the

[15:19]body system and the the we call it complete uh dysfunctioning of

[15:23]the body where it can lead to death so these are the

[15:28]early cases that we started seeing it was a new virus and

[15:32]if you remember in march and april we were seeing very high

[15:35]death rates of this virus the reason is two one because it

[15:40]was affecting we were discovering it in the elderly the most because

[15:45]those were the ones that reacted to it most severely those were

[15:49]the ones that had to be hospitalized and go into the intensive

[15:53]care unit and be put on ventilators and also the elderly whether

[15:59]we like to admit it or not when we get older then

[16:00]there are so many other conditions that we might have which we

[16:06]call comorbidities and comorbidities it means i might have diabetes and now

[16:08]i have this virus or i might have asthma and i have

[16:12]this virus or i might have hypertension and i have this virus

[16:14]so all that is going to put a burden on the human

[16:19]body and react to it in a different way so the uh

[16:24]every infection that is known to mankind even the flu flu which

[16:28]we all get at some point in our life if it hits

[16:32]someone that is medically fragile or their health system or their immune

[16:36]system isn't as healthy can lead sometimes to severe illness and sometimes

[16:41]can lead to death so the the fact that this virus is

[16:46]causing death isn't something that only specific to this virus however because

[16:53]we were seeing it in big and massive numbers then the percentage

[16:58]of how many people die from this virus is a little higher

[17:02]than all the other viruses and because it was new this is

[17:07]where it was shrouded with all this fear and and paranoia and

[17:10]and we call it deadly not that i'm saying it is not

[17:14]a serious matter that we need to not take into consideration but

[17:19]it certainly is something that is a characteristic of every virus and

[17:24]this is where common sense and the practices that we practice can

[17:30]curb that deadly virus and can protect us from it so before

[17:36]we get into the vaccine which is one sort or one method

[17:44]of prevention the best way to prevent you from catching any infection

[17:47]let's forget about coronavirus for a while whether it's the flu or

[17:53]whether it is anything that is contagious is proper and and common

[17:59]practices that even in our religion we are encouraged to use right

[18:03]hygiene washing keeping yourself clean washing your hands with making sure that

[18:11]whenever you touch something you wash your hands and all that the

[18:15]second is the physical distancing again we're talking about droplets that can

[18:20]travel for a distance so keeping that distance is all going to

[18:23]minimize you catching that and finally this piece of of cloth that

[18:30]we are all wearing which unfortunately for many other reasons that we're

[18:35]not going to talk about here has been so politicized and it

[18:39]has been also marked as whether you are brave or not or

[18:45]whether you believe in conspiracy or not and or whether you are

[18:50]blue or red or or green or whatever and it became a

[18:56]symbol for people that are either so fanatic and so religious about

[19:00]wearing the mask or people that are also so fanatic and so

[19:03]religious about not wearing the mask but if we see all the

[19:08]studies that have been produced out we know that masks are working

[19:12]if we see just between november and january 8th so remember november

[19:18]before thanksgiving holiday there was the governor directive that we need to

[19:25]shut down and she she advocated against uh gathering and all the

[19:31]restaurants closed down and and there were restrictions masks were mandating and

[19:38]all that until january 8th which is again christmas thanksgiving and new

[19:46]year's it is believed through predictive models that michigan was able to

[19:52]to prevent a hundred and fifty thousand death because of that's those

[19:56]simple three things masking distancing and washing your hands so imagine if

[20:02]everybody else can do that and we were able to do that

[20:09]right when we saw the spikes in april and in may and

[20:11]when everybody's shut down we were saying we want to slow the

[20:15]curve if you remember that term slowing the curve this is when

[20:19]people were really strictly adhering to those three things we saw the

[20:23]spike again or the raise in the in the cases back in

[20:29]june and july when we became relaxed we became oh yeah we

[20:33]we rode the wave we we flattened the curve but then because

[20:39]we became a little careless if i may say that we saw

[20:44]that spike and this is why i keep saying we are not

[20:47]out of the woods yet it is not time to celebrate we

[20:51]will have plenty of time to celebrate and i promise you but

[20:54]as we are seeing cases dropping down that doesn't mean that we

[20:58]should lower our guards and it certainly doesn't mean that we will

[21:02]go back to normal immediately however some tools that are going to

[21:07]bring us closer to get back to normalcy is the vaccine now

[21:11]before i tell you about the vaccine the vaccine isn't the magic

[21:15]pill that is going to prevent everything but if you heard the

[21:20]analogy of the swiss cheese model you know the swiss cheese a

[21:24]piece of cheese with holes right so you have one slice and

[21:27]you put it there are so many holes you bring another slice

[21:31]of swiss cheese and you put it on top the holes aren't

[21:35]identical so now some holes are covering the other holes you put

[21:38]more layers and at the end you have a block of cheese

[21:41]that has no holes at all because all those holes are compensating

[21:44]for where they are and this is exactly what we're doing you

[21:47]have prevention which are the mask the distancing and the hygiene you

[21:54]have the vaccine that's another layer of cheese you have the treatments

[21:59]you have all that and this is where we can make sure

[22:03]that this virus is no longer a threat so speaking of the

[22:09]vaccine so remember we talked about the virus big ball with spikes

[22:14]these are receptors the vaccine is a technology so in the old

[22:20]times the way vaccines were developed is we take the virus itself

[22:24]we make it weak and this is what your children get right

[22:28]the the polio vaccine all those vaccines and doctor you know probably

[22:32]better than anybody else this is how we make vaccines we weaken

[22:37]the virus we inject it in the body we force the body

[22:39]to recognize the virus in its weakened form and it builds antibodies

[22:44]against it so when the virus comes in in its full form

[22:47]then our antibodies attack it and kill it this is a new

[22:53]technology that is called messenger rnas the messenger rna is part of

[22:57]the genetic code of the vaccine that we took not we but

[23:02]scientists too and they rearranged some of the genetic code and they

[23:10]inject it in the body to force your cells to make antibodies

[23:17]against the receptors those spikes that are on the on the virus

[23:22]so now your cells are building proteins that will recognize those receptors

[23:27]and blocking them when these are blocked the virus goes into your

[23:33]body and what happens it cannot stick to any of your cells

[23:35]so it cannot duplicate or replicate it cannot use you as its

[23:40]host and the virus disappears eventually because there is nowhere for it

[23:45]to reproduce in your cells and this is exactly how this vaccine

[23:50]the two vaccines the moderna and the pfizer vaccine that you heard

[23:54]so much about them this is how they work and because they

[23:58]are not containing any of the particles of the virus then they're

[24:04]even safer than the polo poliovirus that is a weak virus it

[24:09]is safer than all the life-saving vaccines that we know where where

[24:15]we would inject parts of the vaccine of parts of the virus

[24:17]so in terms of comparing it to what we have been living

[24:23]with the life-saving vaccines this is even a safer technology okay now

[24:31]many of you would say and and the rumors are saying well

[24:35]usually vaccines take at least three to five years to produce this

[24:39]one was done in six to eight months something doesn't sound right

[24:44]i heard it from so many people that say salahu remember you

[24:49]know it's it's it it didn't pass all that well here's one

[24:54]of the facts that were misrepresented remember i mentioned that we knew

[25:02]enough about the coronavirus family we talked about sars in 2000 mercen

[25:08]in 2006 and all that the messenger rna technology was done studying

[25:14]those vaccines the technology has been mastered all they needed to do

[25:18]so let's say i have this piece of paper this is the

[25:21]messenger rna right so all i need to do is bring now

[25:26]this genetic code of the new virus apply it to this and

[25:29]now i have a new vaccine and if this virus changes and

[25:33]we have a new virus the technology is mastered we have done

[25:36]so many extensive research and experiments on it all we have to

[25:41]do is add a piece to it and this is how it

[25:44]works so it wasn't done overnight and for anything to be available

[25:53]for human consumption even aspirin anything that is as simple as aspirin

[25:58]or a complicated drug that cures cancer it has to pass so

[26:04]many rigorous tests and studies and research and trials and you hear

[26:10]about phase one phase two phase three these are experiments that have

[26:13]to go through all the phases and then given to a large

[26:18]number of people 30 000 for modern and 40 000 for pfizer

[26:22]where they were assessed and monitored and all that until the fda

[26:28]the food and drug administration which is the highest authority for anything

[26:34]that is put in the market or given to humans as a

[26:36]therapeutic agent has to allow it to happen so when you hear

[26:42]that the vaccine is available it could have never been available no

[26:46]matter what whether it's the president or the the vice president or

[26:53]this party or the other pushing for it science always prevails those

[26:59]are independent scientists that have no political affiliation that have no allegiance

[27:03]to anybody but to science and to making sure that mankind is

[27:08]protected and it is something that is going to beneficial now with

[27:15]that said yes it is a new vaccine but new in terms

[27:20]of that we are now [Music] testing it or or giving it

[27:26]to people and there is a period where we are going to

[27:27]see over this year to see how effective it is in in

[27:33]clinical studies it has shown to be effective 95 percent and many

[27:38]people say well what does 95 percent effectiveness means so the two

[27:44]vaccines that we're talking about pfizer and moderna has proven to be

[27:48]a hundred percent effective in lessening the severity of the virus what

[27:54]does that mean in simple words that means if any one of

[28:00]us here has the vaccine and got exposed to the virus then

[28:07]chances are if we get disease it will be very mild remember

[28:13]i told you this flu-like you don't feel good for 24 hours

[28:16]some sneezing some fever and all that so this is hundred percent

[28:22]you are not going to see anyone that is vaccinated you are

[28:24]not going to see anybody that is going to critical condition need

[28:29]to be put on ventilation need to be admitted to the hospital

[28:33]severe lack of oxygen and pneumonia severe pneumonia and all that that

[28:39]is hundred percent in 95 percent of the cases you will not

[28:46]have an infection period and this is what we mean by 95

[28:49]so you bring 100 people you vaccinate them 95 of them will

[28:53]not have an infection period and those 5 percent that might have

[28:59]an infection will have it in a very mild way that is

[29:02]not even going to require anything but supportive therapy so no medical

[29:07]intervention so that's when when you hear 95 effectiveness or or or

[29:15]94 which are the modern advisor now we're going to learn about

[29:17]new vaccines that are going to be available more some of them

[29:21]are 60 some of them are are less than that so this

[29:25]is what we mean by effectiveness what happens if we don't get

[29:32]vaccinated simple if you don't get vaccinated then you're not protected if

[29:36]your child is not vaccinated at two months four month and six

[29:42]months right these are the life-saving childhood immunizations that protect against diphtheria

[29:47]and pertussis and tetanus if your child is not vaccinated what do

[29:50]you think happens they are going to get those diseases because they're

[29:54]going to go to school and someone is going to have it

[29:58]if your child is not receiving the mmr vaccine or the measles

[30:02]and rubella at 18 months and they go to school and someone

[30:05]has rubella then your child is going to have it and we

[30:08]saw several years ago when the anti-vaccine movement was was happening and

[30:14]people decided we don't want to vaccinate our children we saw a

[30:19]recurrence and some big infections in california and elsewhere with the measles

[30:24]that was because they're not protected so as it is simple what

[30:29]happens if you don't wear a coat and you go out in

[30:33]the snow and it's very cold you're not protected so the coat

[30:36]is your protection the vaccine is a protection what happens if we

[30:38]all decide we're not going to wear masks and we're not all

[30:43]vaccinated some of us are going to get sick especially if someone

[30:47]carries the virus so that's that's what happens when we don't get

[30:52]vaccinated but what happens when we get vaccinated is again some of

[30:55]us will have a hundred percent immunity some of us will have

[31:04]95 immunity but overall most of us will be immunized and those

[31:08]that are not immunized are going to be protected because most of

[31:12]us are immunized so this is when you hear the word herd

[31:16]immunity that the the simple explanation of herd immunity is that the

[31:23]majority are protecting the minority at the end of the day let's

[31:29]say everybody has a chance to get the vaccine there are still

[31:32]going to be a very small percentage of people because of medical

[31:35]conditions they cannot get the vaccine there's a contraindication to get the

[31:39]vaccine but if everybody else around them is vaccinated then they are

[31:46]protecting those that are not vaccinated and this is what herd immunity

[31:50]about in order to establish herd immunity in our community and our

[31:58]extended community [Music] oh there you go good so let me there

[32:46]are two more questions and then i'll stop one that again many

[32:49]of the rumors many of the um uh facts or misfacts are

[32:56]about what is called the new strain we hear about the united

[33:02]kingdom now the the b117 we hear about south africa and again

[33:08]everyone is panicking and it is quite normal we all fear what

[33:13]we do not know right we all fear what we do not

[33:17]know and it's acceptable but how do we eliminate that fear inside

[33:20]us by seeking to know more and seeking facts viruses antivirus even

[33:30]the flu virus part of their normal evolution part of their normal

[33:36]life is to go through mutations and by mutation that means they

[33:39]change some things in their genetic code and they evolve they do

[33:45]not create a new virus but they improve that virus and it

[33:49]is part of their survival the flu virus that we get every

[33:57]year goes into 2000 different variants every year but we don't hear

[34:01]about it because we're used to it it's part of what we

[34:04]know right we don't fear it we know it it's it's we

[34:08]we live with it the coronavirus or or the uh sars kov2

[34:13]has already gone through 200 variants but we only heard about those

[34:20]four the south africa the brazil the uk and and and elsewhere

[34:24]because one it is now the the flavor of virus it is

[34:31]what everybody knows about but also these variants have changed some of

[34:35]the traits some of the characteristics of the coronavirus these variants are

[34:44]adding to the transmissibility of the virus what does that mean that

[34:49]means it makes it spread faster it makes it more contagious which

[34:55]again brings us to the first point that i said this is

[34:59]why we need to be fully practicing all the preventive measures because

[35:06]now we have a more aggressive transmission that requires us to stick

[35:10]to our masks require us to wear the mask properly it's not

[35:15]going to be a da una where it is on your chin

[35:17]and it doesn't mean that you can have your nose exposed just

[35:21]because you like to breathe fresh air we all believe me would

[35:23]like to breathe fresh air but this is not the proper way

[35:27]to wear it now it is more important to wear it the

[35:29]right way it is more important to use sanitizers to wash our

[35:34]hands it's more important to have our distances because these strains or

[35:38]these variants are more infectious but what these variants are not more

[35:46]virulent that means they are not more severe that means they do

[35:53]not cause a more severe disease or infection than the original virus

[35:58]the mother virus if you want to call it that so the

[36:02]severity of the disease is exactly it didn't change even with the

[36:07]new variants but how fast it can spread has changed and this

[36:13]is again why protection is still as important and this is why

[36:18]we need to make sure that everybody gets that vaccine because we

[36:22]want to establish the herd immunity and suppress the virus and its

[36:29]ability to mutate and change its characteristic to to spread faster so

[36:36]when will wayne county get fully vaccinated and what is the plan

[36:42]that is the biggest question that i probably get asked at least

[36:48]10 times a day the vaccine is in limited supplies for so

[36:53]many reasons one production and demand these are new vaccines they're being

[36:58]made every day they're being made from scratch and the minute they

[37:06]were approved they were bought and they were put and sent to

[37:11]the market because of the limited supply then it you know you

[37:16]have one pie and now you have to slice it into all

[37:19]different slices so the more people that want a piece of that

[37:25]pie the smaller the slice is going to be so imagine we

[37:30]have 300 million americans that need those vaccines not all of them

[37:37]are going to get it at once so therefore there had to

[37:40]be a plan of rationing there had to be a prioritization plan

[37:43]on who gets the vaccine first and who gets it second and

[37:47]who gets it third and so forth so during this period where

[37:53]there is limited supply those that need the vaccine the most are

[37:57]going to get it first who are the ones at risk the

[38:01]doctors the nurses in the emergency rooms those that are dealing with

[38:06]the sick patients those that are exposed to covet every day the

[38:09]ambulance workers the emergency medical uh technicians the the uh emergency medical

[38:15]services that would come after 9-1-1 and and deal with that so

[38:21]those were the first population that we said they have to be

[38:25]vaccinated so any shipment of vaccine that was received were reserved for

[38:32]those and they were vaccinated then we said okay who are the

[38:36]next in line the medically fragile the elderly and the elderly that

[38:43]are living in congregate homes in nursing homes on long-term care these

[38:48]are even at higher risk because they are in groups because they

[38:53]have medical conditions that makes them weaker and they should be the

[38:57]second in line and we said great the second shipment of vaccine

[39:01]that we got we started doing long-term care skilled nursing facilities and

[39:07]adult nursing homes and then they said the third priority should be

[39:16]anybody that provide health services for patients so that immediately opened the

[39:25]door to people like dr muna and myself and practitioners that are

[39:31]surgeons or pediatricians or primary care physicians dentists pharmacists laboratories endoscopy labs

[39:40]urgent cares dialysis all those now the bigger we're we're expanding that

[39:49]umbrella what is happening we're including more people right so currently i

[39:53]have a list in wayne county of 18 000 people that fit

[39:59]in that category and that lit growing we have been able to

[40:06]do one third of that population only 6 000 based on the

[40:10]vaccine supply we're getting so remember we did the frontline medical workers

[40:14]we did the long-term care and now we're doing what we call

[40:19]priority three in that group and these are the medical professionals and

[40:22]the dentists and all that but that list is growing but we

[40:26]didn't want to wait until we finish this because it's going to

[40:28]take us forever to finish them and we know that there are

[40:33]other groups that are also going to be added and we need

[40:37]to address those and currently there are three priorities in what we

[40:41]call phase 1b those three are also people that are going to

[40:47]be at exposure and we need to address those there are the

[40:49]public safety these are the law enforcement the police department and firefighters

[40:53]there are the educators our teachers and staff that work in schools

[40:57]that are eager to go back and teach our children and we

[41:02]want them to be safe and then there are those that work

[41:07]in correctional facilities at the jail and prisons and the juvenile detention

[41:10]facility those three groups are going to be next in line in

[41:15]fact next week we're starting with the teachers there are 20 000

[41:18]teachers in wayne county that want the vaccine so you have twenty

[41:23]thousand teachers and eighteen health professionals that thirty eight hundred thirty eight

[41:27]thousand and then you have three thousand police officers that's now forty

[41:33]two thousand add to it others and remember that and representative habudwood

[41:39]would tell you we get at least my department wayne county health

[41:45]division we get on average 6 000 doses every week and we

[41:50]need at least to vaccinate 50 000 so that is slowing the

[41:55]how fast we get to the general public then there are the

[42:02]65 and older those are also a priority because they are remembered

[42:06]the older are more at risk and those are the ones that

[42:09]really we need to address those there are at least in wayne

[42:14]county two hundred thousand sixty-five and older citizens and we cannot do

[42:20]that at the health department on our own we do not have

[42:23]enough vaccine to do them it will take us years if we

[42:26]want to do that so we reached out to our partners in

[42:29]the hospitals and the health care systems and they all stepped up

[42:34]and said we will take that population so when you hear that

[42:38]i called the health department my parents are 70 or 75 or

[42:44]66 and i called the health department and they said they cannot

[42:48]help us that is because yes we cannot help you but if

[42:53]you call beaumont or henry ford or st john's or saint mary

[42:57]or garden city then they are the ones that can help you

[43:00]because they chose to do that why did they do this for

[43:06]three very practical reasons one probably 70 percent of the population 65

[43:12]and older have a physician that belongs to one of those hospitals

[43:16]so they're already their patients they know them they know how to

[43:21]get them they know how to vaccinate them second the hospitals received

[43:24]much more doses than the health department and they can manage this

[43:28]population again it doesn't mean someone calls today they are tomorrow getting

[43:34]the vaccine but the waiting period is at least not months it

[43:37]might be a few days to a week third which is very

[43:42]important in my opinion as a clinician we're talking about population that

[43:47]is very medically sensitive and by that i mean they have other

[43:51]conditions that we need to care for and for the very simple

[43:57]and and remote possibility that anything can go wrong when they get

[44:03]the vaccine because they're so fragile then it's best for them to

[44:05]get the vaccine in a healthcare setting rather than to get it

[44:09]through a drive-through or a walk-in in a big stadium and this

[44:13]is why we decided we want to do this model and this

[44:18]is why wayne county is vaccinating the 65 and older through the

[44:23]health care systems the last point i want to do and i'm

[44:27]going to stop there is talk about the safety of the vaccine

[44:32]again so many rumors so many so-called experts so many arab-speaking english-speaking

[44:40]any language-speaking so-called doctors would go on youtube would go on whatsapp

[44:46]would do a video and tell you all the horrible stories about

[44:50]the vaccine some say it is an invention by bill gates to

[44:56]control you believe me bill gates doesn't need a vaccine to control

[44:58]you we are controlled by our phones they know exactly what we're

[45:01]doing so they don't want to need to go to this very

[45:06]expensive technology so they can control you some say that you start

[45:10]glowing in the dark i took the two doses and i am

[45:13]still i don't think i'm glowing in the dark let's turn off

[45:16]the lights to see if that is happening some say so all

[45:22]this is nonsense the vaccine is well studied well evaluated and it

[45:29]doesn't have any side effects that any other vaccine would not have

[45:35]some soreness at the injection site maybe some would have high temperature

[45:41]fever sometimes chills for 24 hours and it goes away there are

[45:49]very few that have allergic susceptibility that means they have known allergies

[45:55]that might react to some components of the vaccine specifically the vaccine

[46:01]has a component that is polyethylene glycol and if anyone that is

[46:06]allergic to that then sometimes an allergic reaction tingling in the tongue

[46:09]or some itching or something very few that is less than 2.5

[46:17]per million 2.5 per million go into what we call anaphylactic shock

[46:22]anaphylactic shock means your body immediately goes into after you get the

[46:30]vaccine within 10 minutes your body goes into a shutdown and you

[46:33]need to be given adrenaline this is why the people carry epipens

[46:38]in all the cases there there has been 10 cases in 4

[46:44]million vaccines given and that's where we get that 2.5 per million

[46:50]or 2.5 cases per million in all those 10 cases it was

[46:54]in people that had well-known allergies that this happened to them before

[46:59]so there is that susceptibility that we said so my last point

[47:04]that i want to say this vaccine has been now given to

[47:09]20 million people in the us let's add to it another 50

[47:14]million all over the world so there are 70 million people that

[47:21]took the vaccine and as of today there hasn't been one single

[47:25]case of death that is confirmed to be linked to the vaccine

[47:31]not one single cause of death in 70 million people that took

[47:38]the vaccine which doctor this makes it safer than aspirin because we

[47:43]know people that take aspirin and die and this is as simple

[47:46]as i want to put it i really thank you for the

[47:48]opportunity i know there will be a lot of things that you

[47:51]want to know but i don't want to take all the time

[47:52]thank you very much thank you very much dr hamami for all

[48:03]the details that you gave that was very helpful moving to our

[48:08]second speaker representative hamud who will be giving us an update on

[48:14]the response at the state and federal levels thank you so much

[48:23]we have a weekly phone call together we actually have a weekly

[48:26]phone call with many of the stakeholders at the state at the

[48:29]county at our schools to make sure that we are coordinating not

[48:33]just the vaccine distribution but also keeping an update on how many

[48:37]cases are at our schools where is there an outbreak within our

[48:40]community what streets or what neighborhoods are at a greater risk and

[48:44]to me and my team he's known as the the coronavirus encyclopedia

[48:49]and so he is a an asset to this community and we

[48:53]thank him for his work very very much without you i don't

[48:57]know where we would be as a public health department so thank

[49:00]you so much i've been asked to discuss what the state's response

[49:03]has been as it pertains to vaccine distribution and i'll try to

[49:08]focus as much as i can on on those points very early

[49:11]on when we knew that the vaccine was in development the governor

[49:16]and our state department of health and human services began to work

[49:20]on the logistics of the distribution of the vaccine not only is

[49:25]it difficult because of the number of doses that are available it's

[49:29]difficult because of the refrigeration that's needed for these vaccines specifically pfizer

[49:35]and moderna some of these vaccines have to be stored at negative

[49:40]70 degrees celsius and those types of refrigerators are not widely available

[49:45]they're not available at our schools they're not available at our nursing

[49:49]homes or our long-term care facilities and so even accessing the technology

[49:54]to store the vaccine is very difficult and has been a part

[49:58]of the the process the learning process in order to disseminate the

[50:04]vaccine but we started to overcome that obstacle the second thing that

[50:09]dr the doctor highlighted was you have only an x amount of

[50:13]doses and it's not just that we're competing and i'm going to

[50:16]speak as wayne county we're not just competing with oakland county or

[50:20]with the city of detroit because we have our own they have

[50:23]their own public health department we're competing with every single state across

[50:26]the country and we're competing with every single country across the globe

[50:30]and acquiring these vaccines which is making it that much more difficult

[50:35]and so the governor issued several letters to the federal government and

[50:40]specifically what she requested was uh two things one she requested the

[50:44]ability to purchase additional vaccines that have been set to the side

[50:50]and two she requested permission to use the storage that we had

[50:55]as second doses to be administered uh as first doses because many

[50:58]of the vaccine the pharmaceutical companies have come out and said they're

[51:05]actually amplifying the number of vaccines they are going to create through

[51:08]and manufacture in 2021 which gives us the ability then to use

[51:13]the first dose vaccines now because you get your second dose in

[51:16]between 21 to 28 days later and by that time new vaccines

[51:21]will have arrived and we can administer those doses throughout the state

[51:25]the way the state has determined how we will administer the vaccines

[51:30]is through our local public health departments and so here in dearborn

[51:34]durban heights in western wayne county we will work through wayne county

[51:36]public health department if you are a resident of the city of

[51:40]detroit the city of detroit has its own public health department and

[51:43]so i would implore you to reach out or reach out to

[51:45]them go to their website to see how their best administering the

[51:51]vaccine and the other point is at the federal level there was

[51:54]a decision made that at all of the nursing homes and the

[51:56]long-term care facilities our public health departments aren't technically responsible for administering

[52:02]the vaccines they've reached out to cvs and walgreens and cvs and

[52:07]walgreens are actually going into the long-term care facilities in our nursing

[52:11]homes and they're in charge of setting up the appointments acquiring the

[52:15]doses completing the forms and administering the vaccines to our elderly and

[52:18]so for example at henry ford village over on ford road and

[52:23]greenfield they went in and to the special needs population to those

[52:26]in uh the nursing uh the nursing home part of that facility

[52:29]they already received their first dose on january 30th they will go

[52:34]back and give them the second dose and they will begin giving

[52:36]the first dose to the long-term care residents of that facility and

[52:41]then they'll have a third follow-up appointment to give a second dose

[52:46]of the long-term care residents and if it's a very large facility

[52:49]they're going to need several appointments because it's a very labor-intensive process

[52:56]meaning that we need a lot of hands on deck not just

[53:00]in terms of refrigeration but individuals who are volunteering to complete the

[53:04]form properly and then healthcare professionals who are administering the vaccine and

[53:08]so that's where the the intensive portion comes in i can tell

[53:13]you as a representative for the city of dearborn there is an

[53:18]internal struggle for trying to get our fair share here in wayne

[53:21]county if you look at the numbers i just looked it up

[53:26]right now there has been nearly 1 million doses of the vaccine

[53:30]administered in the state of michigan as of yesterday which is quite

[53:34]an accomplishment we've come to the point where we are now administering

[53:36]more doses than we are having cases and that and that shift

[53:41]is really something that we like to see however what we've noticed

[53:44]is that wayne county isn't receiving what i believe to be its

[53:49]fair share and i believe uh the doctor would agree with me

[53:50]we're not receiving our fair share of doses and what we're currently

[53:54]doing all the representatives of wayne county have come together and we've

[53:58]put together a letter asking the department to reevaluate the formula it's

[54:03]using and to reevaluate how many doses we are receiving as a

[54:07]county in order for us to speed up the process in which

[54:08]our residents received the vaccine but as it pertains to where do

[54:13]you go how do you sign up it was spoken to earlier

[54:15]if you are 65 and older please refer to your local health

[54:22]system if you are a teacher i know they are coordinating with

[54:23]the schools that you work at in order to get the numbers

[54:27]of who is signing up for the vaccine so they can organize

[54:29]a vaccine distribution through the schools so that we can try to

[54:34]open up our school system once it is safe to do so

[54:37]i know a target has been given to us but i think

[54:40]we should try to move accordingly once it's safe to do so

[54:44]and the last question i've been asked to answer is you know

[54:48]what is the federal government doing i think it's safe to say

[54:52]that we had no vaccine distribution plan before january 20th of 2021

[54:57]and that is the day in which the new president was sworn

[55:00]in and i think it's safe to say that we have not

[55:04]had a national strategy along around coronavirus for quite some time unfortunately

[55:08]but what we're seeing now is a shift in the mentality a

[55:13]shift in the belief of science a shift in the belief of

[55:15]that this is a global pandemic and that we need to appropriate

[55:19]all the assets that are needed to tackle this as quickly as

[55:23]possible and so we're hopeful that with the new leadership at the

[55:28]federal government that we will see an uptick hopefully in the amount

[55:32]of the vaccines that are manufactured and distributed and that there will

[55:35]be more assistance to states and one of those forms is not

[55:40]just the vaccine itself but resources resources whether it's unemployment resources so

[55:45]that if you are laid off of work that you're able to

[55:48]still be at home and provide for your family without being forced

[55:52]to make that decision of should i go into work and put

[55:56]myself in a dangerous position for my family in terms of exposing

[55:58]myself to the virus so i can earn an honest day's living

[56:03]to provide for my family or do i have enough resources so

[56:05]we can you know provide for now while trying to protect the

[56:09]family and our neighbors and our community but also resources for our

[56:13]small businesses that are struggling i think most recently many of you

[56:16]heard restaurants for for many months have not been able to operate

[56:20]the dining inside of their restaurants as of february 1st that will

[56:26]change there will be a 25 capacity limit depending on up to

[56:29]100 people depending on how big of a restaurant you have and

[56:32]there will also be curfew you cannot operate dine in past 10

[56:38]p.m however you can operate carryout dine out or the the tents

[56:41]that we see outside and just one comma on the 10th some

[56:45]people say how is it possible to have tents outside that look

[56:48]like you're dining inside many of the tents that you see might

[56:51]technically not be allowed there's a very specific regulation of type of

[56:57]tents that are allowed to be operated and so i just want

[57:00]to flag that we're not here to point the finger at any

[57:02]bad operators it's a very difficult time for our small businesses and

[57:05]i implore you all to support small businesses as much as you

[57:08]can but those changes will go into effect come february 1st and

[57:12]we'll begin to see dinan again and it's our hopes that as

[57:14]dinan opens up we just want to encourage individuals to still please

[57:19]mask up even inside the restaurant when you're not eating because it

[57:22]is when the mask is off in a setting like a dinan

[57:27]setting where you are most at risk for spreading the virus and

[57:30]with the new variant it was spoken to it's up to 50

[57:35]percent more infectious it is actually more dangerous for us that the

[57:39]new variant is 50 more infectious as opposed to 50 percent more

[57:43]deadly if we do not take the right public health precautions we

[57:47]would lose more lives because it is more infectious than more deadly

[57:51]and so please continue to practice safe social distancing continue to avoid

[57:57]the large gatherings many of our venues are struggling i understand that

[57:59]but we're doing what we can to provide them with the grants

[58:02]and opportunities and we're hoping to receive more federal aid so that

[58:06]we can pass it through and at the state level we just

[58:09]passed over 200 million dollars for small businesses and grants and so

[58:11]we're doing as much as we can with the resources that we

[58:15]do have i mean with that i will turn it back over

[58:18]to you dr mona thank you representative hamud and the final word

[58:29]is for mawlana first i would like to thank the panelist dr

[58:43]hamami and brother abdullah mood for honoring us tonight and joining this

[58:47]panel i would like to thank dr mahal hosseini for moderating my

[58:53]role tonight is not to see not to speak about the scientific

[58:58]aspects of the uh of the vaccine because this is not my

[59:06]job this is not my expertise and we already heard some enlightening

[59:11]words from dr hamami and brother abdullah mood on that regard my

[59:17]role is to speak about the islamic and religious implications on whether

[59:23]or not we should take the vaccine what does islam say about

[59:28]the vaccine should we take the vaccine or we should not many

[59:33]people are calling and asking these days what is our responsibility islamically

[59:38]morally and here is the answer my dear brothers and sisters there

[59:45]are two guiding factors that rule this issue in islam one is

[59:50]that we have a principle in islam that says saving life is

[60:00]mandatory no matter what and when it comes to saving life if

[60:06]saving life conflicts with any other obligation as big as salah for

[60:18]example or any other obligation saving life proceed so for example if

[60:24]i'm about to pray and i just have 10 minutes to finish

[60:29]my prayer before sunset and there is a child drowning in the

[60:35]swimming pool assuming i know swimming unfortunately i personally don't know how

[60:44]to swim i need to cut my salah i need to stop

[60:46]my salah and immediately go and save this child why because saving

[60:55]someone's life is more important than prayer as important as prayer is

[61:02]so this is one principle that our scholars would emphasize and the

[61:08]quran says he who saves one life it is in the eyes

[61:19]of god as if he has saved the entire mankind the second

[61:27]principle is when it comes to issues that are not purely religious

[61:33]where do we go to from an islamic point of view who

[61:38]do we go to when i experience a medical problem who should

[61:47]i go to should i go to the carpenter should i go

[61:52]to the grocer or to the taxi driver with all due respect

[61:56]to those individuals islamically asked i have to go to a physician

[62:01]allah says in the quran when you do not know about something

[62:10]go to the expert why that's why you go to a sheikh

[62:15]or a saiyad or an imam when you need to deal with

[62:17]an islamic issue but when it comes to your health you go

[62:21]to the doctor and you listen to the doctor when it comes

[62:27]to other issues business and you have a business issue to discuss

[62:32]you go to a businessman when you have a legal issue or

[62:38]when you are in legal limbo you go to a lawyer when

[62:43]it comes to this issue the issue of vaccine should we take

[62:50]it or not i'm not the expert on it to tell you

[62:55]it is good or not this is the expert the expert tells

[62:58]you yes you should get it according to the data we have

[63:03]the scientific data we have you must take it because it prevent

[63:09]a tragedy and if you do not take it given the fact

[63:15]that there is no cure no medication proved for for covid has

[63:26]been invented then you must take this vaccine in order to save

[63:32]your life based on that my dear brothers and sisters islam says

[63:36]if vaccine is the only way to prevent getting infected and ultimately

[63:44]avoiding a terrible consequences such as death or dying then it must

[63:52]be taken say the sistani the grant ayatollah and the highest shia

[63:59]scholar in the world has been asked recently about taking the vaccine

[64:03]and the question was put this way that if the vaccine is

[64:11]approved by medical authorities around the world and it is the only

[64:15]way for us to put an end for this pandemic what is

[64:22]the islamic obligation uh required to say it says your islamic obligation

[64:27]requires you to take the vaccine now if you take the vaccine

[64:36]and something happens to you then what i'm not in charge to

[64:41]answer that question nor i'm responsible to answer that question why because

[64:48]you know that every medicine you consume it has side effects hardly

[64:54]you find any medical any medicine that doesn't have side effect eventually

[65:01]any medicine you use it has side effects some of the and

[65:07]the side effects vary from severe to mild to minor now i

[65:13]am not in charge of assessing the side effect it is also

[65:18]the expert who will assess that but again does those does this

[65:27]side effect would should stop me from taking the vaccine no because

[65:33]again the risks of not taking the vaccine without weight the risk

[65:39]of taking it so we it once if it is offered to

[65:49]us once it is available without zabara without going behind lines and

[65:56]using our connections and ties to get that yes you should take

[66:00]it for yourself and your family members and remember my dear brothers

[66:05]and sisters some people say i don't care about my health it's

[66:08]not only about you there are other people who live with you

[66:11]in the same house the kids the elderly people and you can

[66:16]be the victor you can be the vehicle with which this disease

[66:21]is being transmitted so you are not responsible for yourself only but

[66:26]also for those who are around you so you better take precaution

[66:33]now there is a question i would like to mention i will

[66:39]i would like to bring up that question to you and give

[66:43]my answer and also get an input from dr hamami there are

[66:53]rumors that the one of those two vaccines either pfizer or the

[66:57]other one moderna contains pork product as far as i know that's

[67:08]not true but again i would love to hear that from dr

[67:12]hamami but remember even even if tomorrow we find out that yes

[67:21]it does include pork uh product this does not make the vaccine

[67:28]why is that because in islam eating pork is haram but to

[67:33]take a product of the port of the pork and add it

[67:39]to your bloodstream there is no evidence in islam that this is

[67:46]haram so basically even if that's true still it does not make

[67:50]the vaccine haram but i would like to after i'm done i

[67:53]would like to be the first one to ask dr hamami if

[67:56]that's true or not finally my dear brothers and sisters one of

[68:03]the problems the new technology the smartphones had brought for us one

[68:09]of the new headaches is spreading false rumors and disinformation so i

[68:17]think most of you have this app the whatsapp just like i

[68:23]do and i receive without exaggeration i receive hundreds hundreds of notifications

[68:31]on weekly basis on my website now some of the things i

[68:35]can say a large portion of things we get in our whatsapp

[68:43]are false information some people i have seen them repeating things that

[68:50]are baseless and there is no evidence to support what they say

[68:56]and when you say what is the source of your information they

[69:00]say what's up so what what's up is not a medical authority

[69:06]it is not a religious authority people exchange those video clips sometime

[69:12]recklessly irresponsibly they make up things and they then pass it on

[69:19]and someone's sitting and this is what bothers me that some people

[69:26]seems that they have no job other than forwarding those messages to

[69:29]others as if it's been revealed to them by allah that this

[69:34]is your responsibility my responsibility is not to forward any junk that

[69:39]i receive on my whatsapp i need to be careful not to

[69:44]contribute to this campaign of disinformation and misleading so not anything you

[69:51]receive in your whatsapp any video clip any statement by someone sitting

[69:59]somewhere making statement just like our friend dr hamami mentioned would say

[70:05]something about it call us we take it we should abandon we

[70:10]have a disease in this community it is called conspiracy theory many

[70:16]people believe in conspiracy theory anything you ask them why this church

[70:23]used a green carpet maybe this is a sign of maybe a

[70:29]conspiracy that they wanted to conquer the the united states by this

[70:34]by this uh by pretending they are muslims this is all nonsense

[70:39]my dear brothers and sisters we should not follow the rumors and

[70:45]false rumors and we should rid ourselves from the conspiracy theories that

[70:50]everything someone is doing then there must be an ulterior motive behind

[70:58]it either bill gates or the zionist or wall street or this

[71:03]guy or that movement or this group we need to be more

[71:10]realistic and we need to not allow this wave of disinformation would

[71:16]mute our responsible reaction towards the crisis thank you so much for

[71:25]listening wasalamu alaikum thank you mawlana for your religious and spiritual guidance

[71:35]we're going to open the floor now for questions and answers i've

[71:40]received several questions so far so i would like to ask the

[71:44]speakers if we can keep the answers to to a minimum please

[71:47]sure so the first question we have is for representative hamud what

[71:53]can we do as citizens to help push for more vaccines in

[71:57]wayne county very good question very good question thank you so much

[72:03]dr maher for citizens in wayne county what i would ask you

[72:06]to do if you don't live in my district in the city

[72:10]of dearborn because i'm sitting right here before you reach out to

[72:14]your state representative reach out to your state senator if you know

[72:16]who they are if you don't know who they are reach out

[72:19]to my office and we'll connect you with them when the representatives

[72:23]hear from you directly it's more meaningful it makes it lights a

[72:27]fire under them to make sure that they're advocating for the issues

[72:30]that you care about i can tell you in my office if

[72:33]i just get 10 emails or phone calls on the same issue

[72:36]we immediately elevate it to the highest priority so i would ask

[72:40]you to reach out to us reach out to your state representative

[72:42]your state senator and ask them to ask to request more vaccine

[72:48]doses and a greater equitable portion to wayne county residents so we

[72:54]can administer vaccines much quicker thank you dr hamami what is your

[73:01]opinion on the upcoming johnson and johnson vaccine um it's as we

[73:07]know there are several vaccines that are currently in what is called

[73:12]stage three uh there is the johnson and johnson there is one

[73:15]that is called novavax and we all heard about astrazeneca that is

[73:19]being used in the uk these are all at stage three that

[73:25]means they're being evaluated as the last stage and they will or

[73:28]will not based on that evaluation receive emergency authorization use i believe

[73:36]this is a good thing to have more vaccines it diversifies the

[73:40]pool that we're working with and certainly adds to the volume as

[73:45]far as what i know about it personally i i know that

[73:48]it's again an effective vaccine probably not as high as the moderna

[73:54]and pfizer but it still has proven to provide benefit and protection

[73:58]of course we want to wait to see what is the final

[74:01]verdict from the food and drug administration and some of the final

[74:06]evaluations perhaps dr hamami could answer this question how would you address

[74:13]those who don't trust a mass distributed vaccine because of conspiracies or

[74:22]misconceptions that's a tough question we all believe in what we believe

[74:26]and sometimes we're passionate about what we believe in again i say

[74:29]everything is through facts so back to to imam's question about whether

[74:35]any of this vaccine or any other drug would contain pork products

[74:40]or animal products and all that the easy answer is check it

[74:47]out you know that the two vaccines the ingredients the package slip

[74:51]they are on the cdc website nothing is hidden go through and

[74:56]check if you do not believe what people are telling you go

[74:59]through and check the ingredients and see whether it says anywhere it

[75:03]has pork fat or pork serum or whatever which i know that

[75:08]they don't but again seek the knowledge by yourself rather than to

[75:12]wait for someone to tell you something and you say yep okay

[75:14]that's what i'm going to be doing so whenever you believe that

[75:20]something is you know you have doubt whether it's medical or similar

[75:25]to how you deal with everything anything that you doubt you go

[75:28]and seek the facts you do your own research and that journey

[75:32]to find the truth is the most fulfilling in everything even in

[75:36]science that journey is going to make you a believer and it

[75:40]will not affect your convictions because somebody else told you so so

[75:44]i would say go and seek the facts and don't repeat whatever

[75:47]is fed to you thank you either dr hamami or representative hamud

[75:54]how long will it take for most of the population in the

[75:59]u.s to have herd immunity that's a great question i think the

[76:05]question that we need to answer in order to come up with

[76:09]that question is how many doses will be provided to us over

[76:11]these next several months in order to achieve herd immunity especially with

[76:14]the new covet variant the public health professionals are saying we need

[76:19]traditionally you need 70 to 80 herd immunity now they're saying we

[76:22]might need upwards of 90 plus it's not going to be difficult

[76:27]to administer the doses to residents who we can get in contact

[76:34]with the difficulty will arise in administering vaccines to those residents who

[76:37]might not have identification cards to the homeless population to the extremely

[76:43]vulnerable population that might be living in the streets where it's hard

[76:47]to get to to residents who might not speak english as a

[76:50]primary language and resources are not provided in another language to educate

[76:54]them on the importance of signing up to receive the vaccine that's

[76:57]the population that's going to fall through the cracks and so we

[77:01]need to do what's best once we have an appropriate size an

[77:05]appropriate vaccine volume in order to get it out as quickly as

[77:08]possible i don't have a timeline manufacturers are changing every single day

[77:12]how many doses will be made available and i think it's up

[77:15]to the federal government to see how much of that vaccine that's

[77:19]actually manufactured they purchase and then provide to the states dr hammy

[77:24]is there an association between the vaccine and infertility no okay let

[77:32]me add more because um the the answer is no there hasn't

[77:37]been that there has been rumors there have been rumors that there

[77:41]is an association all the studies that were done so far did

[77:45]not confirm any of that there are no indications the way it

[77:51]is it acts whether the virus itself or the way the uh

[77:54]vaccine itself is is made does not indicate any correlation that it

[78:02]can affect either male or female infertility so the answer is no

[78:05]if i can just add one point and it's just on the

[78:09]data validation when you're doing your own research use validated websites look

[78:16]to the public health professionals if you go to a website called

[78:20]parents against vaccines dot com they're probably not going to post information

[78:23]that talks about from an objective standpoint and why this vaccine is

[78:27]such as a public health prevention method that we should be using

[78:31]go to the cdc look up the research articles look up the

[78:35]medical journals lean on the public health professionals like dr maha like

[78:38]dr hamami they're the ones who are doing the work they're out

[78:41]there on the front lines each and every single day and they

[78:44]know this far better than any of us do and they know

[78:47]where to go question for dr hamami if someone has an egg

[78:53]allergy can they take the vaccine you have an allergy for what

[78:56]eggs eggs egg allergy any allergy egg egg egg oh i'm sorry

[79:06]no so so again let's let's talk a little bit about the

[79:10]allergies because this has been um probably the most uh looked at

[79:15]um oral allergies whether you're allergic to food or even some of

[79:20]the oral medications you take such as penicillin or allergic to antibiotics

[79:25]and all that there hasn't been any severe reaction related to those

[79:30]at all i at we so far at the health department we

[79:35]vaccinated 16 000 people of which i personally was at the site

[79:40]when they brought me someone and they said they have allergies to

[79:46]penicillin i i think i have five people that did disclose that

[79:48]they have allergies to penicillin and we did vaccinate them and nothing

[79:52]happened of course there is always what we say we as those

[79:58]that are vaccinating you we have five minutes encounter with you we

[80:02]don't know you enough so if you have any medical conditions the

[80:07]best one to ask is your doctor who knows your condition the

[80:11]best and go and consult with your doctor regardless what you think

[80:14]and he or she believe that yes you should take the vaccine

[80:20]then that should be your your go ahead and don't hesitate now

[80:25]back to to the question um oral allergies food allergies haven't been

[80:32]associated with any severe allergic reactions again those that have severe allergies

[80:38]that cause them to carry epipens those that are allergic to some

[80:43]of the components of the vaccine those that get allergic after let's

[80:48]say you go and you do an endoscopy and they inject you

[80:51]with a dye the iodine there has been some correlation but nothing

[80:58]severe specifically one component which is polyethylene glycol which many of us

[81:02]know it as antifreeze it is what you put in your car

[81:05]so it doesn't freeze that polyethylene glycol has been shown some relationship

[81:13]with those allergies again when we give the vaccine we make sure

[81:16]anyone that gets the vaccine remains on site for 15 minutes we

[81:23]monitor them closely and those with a history of allergies we keep

[81:28]them for half an hour to observe them so far against 16

[81:35]000 people we had two or three that i don't think they

[81:39]had an allergic reaction as much as they had an anxiety reaction

[81:42]they were so excited and anxious and scared at the same time

[81:49]and after they got this the shot they had like this ha

[81:51]moment and and this is where they they felt something funny and

[81:57]we immediately told them after the half an hour if you're still

[81:59]feeling uh not feeling good then then let's take you somewhere so

[82:04]we didn't have anything serious in terms of severe allergies thank you

[82:10]and dr hamami why do you need two those two doses is

[82:13]the second dose a booster um whatever you want to call it

[82:18]is yes so so again let's go back to the simple vaccine

[82:23]that we all know your children they get a two month four

[82:27]months and six months the same vaccine these are getting your body

[82:32]to build more and more and more of the system that's going

[82:37]to fight this vaccine the first dose of both vaccines have shown

[82:42]to give you 60 immunity the second dose is going to give

[82:47]you 95 immunity it is part of how our body reacts to

[82:51]something that they get for the first time and then something that

[82:55]they get the next time and it just completes the system so

[82:58]it's similar to the first time you ever drank coffee you probably

[83:03]had a full night that you were awake the second time you

[83:08]drank coffee you probably weren't awake the whole night and this is

[83:11]how we acclimate your body to these things and that's why you

[83:16]need a second dose thank you representative are restaurant staff employees considered

[83:23]front line workers and therefore able to get the vaccine so i

[83:29]believe and correct me if i'm wrong dr hamami they would not

[83:32]fall in the phase 1a for the healthcare professionals but i believe

[83:36]they come in at the end of phase 1b beginning of phase

[83:41]1c where frontline workers who are in a higher risk environment would

[83:43]be able to then sign up to receive the vaccine yeah you're

[83:48]right uh it's it's so phase 1b is very very broad that

[83:55]it's called essential workers and we mentioned currently the top three that

[84:01]the governor said we need to work on these are the police

[84:04]officers the teachers and those that work in correctional facilities but that

[84:11]group 1b has 16 different categories in i think number five or

[84:17]six on the line are what are called agricultural and food workers

[84:21]so under that you have those that work in the supermarket those

[84:25]that work in food factories those that work in farms those that

[84:29]work in restaurants those that work in cafe so imagine now that

[84:35]we are reaching this population the amount of people that we need

[84:42]to ensure that we can vaccinate and this is again we're going

[84:45]step by step um you'd be happy to to know that and

[84:48]and i don't know how that vote for abdullah and those of

[84:53]us at the county government employees are number 10 so so they

[84:57]are not going to get it before anybody else government employees are

[85:01]ranked number 10 in that list and let me say for those

[85:05]receiving the vaccine after your first and second dose the data is

[85:10]still not conclusive as to how long the immunity lasts moderna has

[85:15]suggested it might last only one year pfizer is still speculating as

[85:20]to how long it will last so i i don't want this

[85:23]to be a new conspiracy theory that they're giving us something every

[85:27]single year as we still monitor the data as you monitor those

[85:30]that receive the vaccine it's very likely that this might be like

[85:32]the flu vaccine or you get it every year or every two

[85:35]years we're not sure yet and so just understand that fact now

[85:41]so when you see the article that comes out and says this

[85:43]vaccine only provides you immunity for x amount of time you have

[85:47]to retake a booster at this period of time it's not a

[85:50]conspiracy theory this is a new type of coronavirus we're watching the

[85:54]data we're watching those that had coronavirus and they have received the

[85:58]vaccine and as the data emerges it begins to become public and

[86:01]it's quite normal we do take the flu vaccine every year right

[86:05]every year we say take the new vaccine for so many reasons

[86:08]one because it provides you immunity for one year two remember we

[86:12]said that virus goes into different evolution so every time we modify

[86:17]the vaccine and we take it another year and i suspect similar

[86:21]to what rep hamut said i would suspect that covet 19 is

[86:27]going to be a yearly thing the vaccine for covet 19 is

[86:30]going to be a yearly thing that we will take every year

[86:32]and i don't see any any problem with that it would be

[86:38]part of how we uh take the flu vaccine how we take

[86:39]the shingles how we take all that we take a lot of

[86:43]things on a yearly basis just to protect ourselves okay this question

[86:48]is either for representative hamud or is it true that hospital hospitals

[86:53]receive a financial incentive from the government when someone gets admitted with

[87:00]covet and is it true that because of this incentive hospitals are

[87:06]over inflating the number of cobit deaths i would immediately say instead

[87:11]it's false if we look at what happened early on in the

[87:15]pandemic you know take beaumont wayne for example they suffered a great

[87:19]financial loss because of the cobit pandemic where we had massive layoffs

[87:23]and closing down of units within the hospital at a time where

[87:28]we needed most doctors are you know we have dr maha we

[87:31]have we have dr hamami my wife is a doctor i see

[87:36]who is a health care professional as well these health care professionals

[87:40]are not on the front lines risking their lives for a dollar

[87:42]they're out there risking their lives to ensure the public's health and

[87:46]any insinuation that hospitals are inflating numbers or inflating deaths in order

[87:51]to receive more resources is just absolutely false it's a another conspiracy

[87:55]theory that was floated out there but if you look at the

[87:57]numbers it's 100 percent not the case hospital systems and health systems

[88:01]across the nation are actually struggling at this point in time because

[88:07]what's happening is because we had a severe restriction very early on

[88:09]on all of the elective procedures going into the hospital that pipeline

[88:13]actually ended and people are not going to still not going to

[88:17]receive the preventative care services that they need to anymore people are

[88:20]too afraid of coronavirus to go see their primary care doctor people

[88:23]are too afraid to go see their mental health provider people are

[88:27]too afraid to go into the hospital to receive their colonoscopy or

[88:30]endoscopy that's required and that's what's causing a lot of these hospitals

[88:35]to struggle currently there's no additional bonus that's given if you have

[88:40]a covet 19 uh uh absolutely yes let me add to that

[88:47]covert 19 diagnosis that's what i want to say there we go

[88:52]thank you before i i rejoined the county to have the response

[88:56]in october before that i was for three years working at trinity

[89:01]health as senior vice president for community health and well-being when tolbert

[89:10]hit and trinity has 95 hospitals in 22 states the the hospitals

[89:19]were not compensated for treating covert cases nobody gave money to treat

[89:27]convocation add to it what just said all elective surgeries were shut

[89:31]down everything that was not important was shut down trinity's annual revenue

[89:37]is 20 billion dollars with a b drop down to 15 billion

[89:44]so they lost 5 billion from march till september because so it

[89:53]is not something that people are making profit out of and they

[89:57]will be more than happy to tell you there are no profit

[90:01]and we want people to come and get their elective surgery and

[90:03]they will they they want them to come back and and see

[90:08]their physicians um dr hosseini works at petro endocrinology with my dear

[90:14]friend dr zohailey at some point they didn't see any of the

[90:16]patients because patients were afraid to go see their doctors until they

[90:22]established the telemedicine system and started providing some of the advice till

[90:26]now their patient population is dropping so the medical industry did not

[90:33]benefit from kovit i can tell you that with with full certainty

[90:39]this question is for sayyid hassan sayed what what do you say

[90:45]to those people who say our life and our death are all

[90:50]in allah's hands anyways why should we all wear masks why should

[90:53]we take a vaccine let's let's just trust allah that's a very

[91:01]good question yes we should trust allah subhanahu wa'ta'ala but trusting allah

[91:06]does not mean at all to go reckless and to let our

[91:13]god down the prophet salallahu alaihi wasallam coming to the masjid and

[91:23]leaving his camel and tied and the prophet says ask him why

[91:27]don't you tie your camel because when you come out of the

[91:30]masjid in half an hour you may not find him he says

[91:36]i rely on allah subhanahu wa ta'ala the prophet told him whatever

[91:42]tie your camel first and then rely on allah subhanahu wa relying

[91:48]on allah doesn't mean we go reckless i can go now out

[91:53]and stand right in the middle of 4th street and let cars

[91:57]hit me and i say you know it's up to allah subhanahu

[92:03]ta'ala if allah wants me to be hit i will get hit

[92:05]that's not true allah subhanahu wa ta'ala tells us you need to

[92:12]take care of yourself you're not supposed to cause harm for yourself

[92:21]allah says do not cause your own destruction with your own hand

[92:27]so i cannot be reckless and cause my own destruction and then

[92:31]i blame it on allah subhanahu wa ta'ala allah subhanahu wa ta'ala

[92:36]is the protector and he has our trust but that does not

[92:46]mean in any way or shape that this should make us go

[92:53]not cautious we always need to use a precaution and we need

[92:59]to do our own due diligence to protect ourselves then trust god

[93:05]if i get sick i need to go to the doctor i

[93:09]cannot sit home and i say if allah wants me to heal

[93:14]i will heal musa alaihissalam got sick and allah subhanahu wa allah

[93:18]told him prophet musa go to the doctor when prophet musa ask

[93:25]allah subhanahu wa ta'ala you're the one who offers healing why should

[93:28]you go to the doctor allah told him this is how my

[93:35]plan works you go to the doctor he prescribes you a medicine

[93:37]and then i will help by offering my healing so it is

[93:44]it is part of our faith to believe that trusting god is

[93:50]to do our own due diligence and not to let our god

[93:55]down thank you this question is to dr hamami do you recommend

[94:01]pregnant women to receive the vaccine because of the possible adverse effects

[94:06]on the child's brain and autism this is a very good question

[94:11]and so far the two groups that should not get the vaccine

[94:20]are those that are under 16 years of age for pfizer and

[94:23]18 years of age of moderna and pregnant women the only reason

[94:28]is that when they did the studies they did not include those

[94:32]groups so we don't know anything about how they would react if

[94:36]they get the vaccine there are studies that are happening there are

[94:40]studies that will happen that are now going to take those groups

[94:43]and recruit them and see how that happens as of today as

[94:47]of what we know with the cdc recommendations under 16 for pfizer

[94:53]under 18 for moderna and no pregnant women will receive the vaccine

[94:58]until that changes this is what we're operating yes another question for

[95:04]you can you speak about the story from norway about 25 deaths

[95:09]after vaccines were provided no i can't because i don't know that

[95:14]this happened and i'm not sure if if that is true or

[95:22]not and uh there has been some uh theories of i think

[95:27]it was some older population that eventually when they investigated it further

[95:32]they discovered that they died because they were old because they had

[95:37]other conditions they didn't die from the vaccine so again there is

[95:42]a difference we we learn in public health what we call the

[95:48]causality so one theory they tell you um smoking can cause people

[95:57]smoking can increase car accidents which doesn't make sense right but how

[96:04]they did it they said okay most of smokers also drink alcohol

[96:10]now drinking alcohol would cause car accidents so now you're making this

[96:18]triangular cause you're eliminating the the real cause and you're making that

[96:25]association so it might be very possible for someone with a heart

[96:28]condition to die after taking the vaccine but did he or she

[96:32]die because they took the vaccine or is it because of their

[96:33]heart condition and i think this is what we're talking about thank

[96:39]you i'm going to forward this question to representative hamut we have

[96:44]happy hour at many restaurants why can't we have happy vaccinated hour

[96:49]to get people more comfortable in getting out that's a great question

[96:57]i think we're doing the best we can to try to educate

[96:59]the population on the importance of the vaccine and i wish we're

[97:03]going to have happy hours where you can pull up you know

[97:05]at one of our restaurants to get something to eat and get

[97:08]a vaccine while you're there as well unfortunately the limiting factors is

[97:11]going to be the number of doses that we have available and

[97:14]as dr hamame spoke to earlier the priority list there are vulnerable

[97:19]populations that we need to get vaccinated immediately and let me also

[97:23]add though that when you do get vaccinated inshallah you still have

[97:27]to wear a mask you still have to do all of the

[97:31]other public health prevention preventive measures avoiding large gatherings wearing the masks

[97:35]until we get hurt until we reach a level of herd immunity

[97:38]because receiving the vaccine does not prevent transmission if you do have

[97:41]covet it's very important to note that even if you have the

[97:44]vaccine and if you have covet you can still transmit coven um

[97:48]so i do want to highlight that fact as well that is

[97:52]very true yep thank you for for saying that now there might

[97:58]be a big happy hour in the summer so people based on

[98:02]the estimates and the production of the vaccines and the potential of

[98:07]having new vaccines what is estimated for moving to second stage or

[98:12]or phase two where everyone can go get the vaccine it's probably

[98:17]going to be late summer we're hoping maybe july august or and

[98:22]and that might be where we will have those big parties where

[98:26]everyone is getting vaccinated this question is for dr hamami you indicated

[98:33]that the technology used to produce the vaccine has been there for

[98:38]a number of years that's why we didn't need more than one

[98:40]year to come up with the covet vaccines so what is the

[98:45]difference between the four to five vaccines made by different countries i

[98:52]i know that there are several vaccines there is the chinese vaccine

[98:58]there is the indian vaccine i think there is a russian vaccine

[99:00]i do to claim ignorance a little bit i don't know enough

[99:03]of the details some of them are using the old technology which

[99:08]is taking pro particles of the vaccine proteins of the vaccine injecting

[99:13]the body and making the body produce antibodies against it which is

[99:17]still an effective way but i don't have enough on the background

[99:21]of the science that went into that to tell you whether they're

[99:24]more effective versus this i know that the messenger rna technology is

[99:30]now the future of vaccines because of how simple it is to

[99:35]just add to that messenger so so messenger is really a messenger

[99:40]it's it's like sending a message with a genetic code and asking

[99:45]your body to do this or that or the other so as

[99:48]soon as you can change the code and send it to your

[99:52]body it can build a protection against anything that you wanted to

[99:57]do versus the old traditional way which is still valid but it

[100:00]requires a little bit of time and requires also more time for

[100:05]your body to build those antibodies to fight the vaccine okay one

[100:10]more question for you uh yeah let's i'll finish this one more

[100:16]question and then we'll open it to the floor what is your

[100:20]opinion on people who take steroids so immunosuppressants can they take the

[100:25]vaccine how about people with autoimmune disorders and the last category severe

[100:34]asthmatics yes yes and yes because again remember what we talked in

[100:40]the beginning those that are medically fragile those that have underlying conditions

[100:44]those that do not have 100 health are the ones that going

[100:47]to be more affected if they catch the virus therefore they are

[100:51]the ones that need to be vaccinated first there is category 1c

[100:57]as repamod mentioned these are anyone between the ages of 16 and

[101:05]65 that have underlying conditions such as what you said they have

[101:07]immune deficiency or autoimmune diseases or they have asthma or they have

[101:12]diabetes or they have all those are more at risk and they

[101:16]are one step ahead of the general public these are more important

[101:20]to take the vaccine than those that are healthy so yes they

[101:24]should take it foreign kai ledge [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] like go

[105:00]ahead yes do you want to if we pause there and let

[106:06]him answer those first very good questions let me answer them very

[106:11]shortly your first point makes a lot of sense and it it

[106:16]is worth debating but but i won't go into full debate um

[106:19]the reason this is called emergency use authorization not because it cut

[106:24]corners in the scientific process it cut corners in the regulatory process

[106:30]it cut corners and how fast the the advisors got together and

[106:35]evaluated everything and all that so so that's where the emergency indication

[106:41]comes in now once everything is clear and all that this is

[106:46]going to go back and be evaluated from a regulatory perspective in

[106:50]a more thorough way and it will no longer have that eua

[106:54]but that is no indication whatsoever that there has been some bypasses

[107:01]for safety or for some of the scientific processes the second point

[107:05]about teachers i don't know if anybody heard you um the the

[107:09]plan is and and the governor is encouraging all students to go

[107:16]back in person uh march 1st and if our teachers are not

[107:21]all vaccinated then how safe that is so we are planning to

[107:24]vaccinate in fact next week we twain county have we're going to

[107:31]start giving vaccines to teachers again on a priority uh list we're

[107:36]starting with those schools that are currently in person where they have

[107:43]classes versus those that are remotely depending on how much vaccine we

[107:48]do i believe we have i believe we might get to march

[107:51]first with at least 80 percent of our teachers vaccinated now let's

[107:58]say not all teachers are vaccinated because there's not only the factor

[108:03]that we don't have enough supplies but we have teachers that say

[108:08]just just like everybody else they say well i don't trust this

[108:10]vaccine i don't want to take it now those are going to

[108:15]be responsible for their own decision but those are going to create

[108:21]that what that what uh uh representative hamud was talking about that

[108:25]80 versus 20 80 vaccinated versus 20 percent vaccinated if we have

[108:30]only 20 of our teachers vaccinated because they chose not to be

[108:38]vaccinated that's not good and if they have to go back to

[108:42]the school and they have to go back in in class they

[108:46]cannot use the excuse that it is not safe anymore because we're

[108:50]giving you a tool that is very safe and you decide not

[108:54]to do it just because of a video you saw or an

[108:55]opinion you have so let me let me stop here before i

[109:00]get myself in trouble but even if let's say there was no

[109:04]vaccine whatsoever there are mitigation processes that we put in schools that

[109:12]are ensuring a safe environment for both the teachers as well as

[109:19]the students those are going to still remain in place even if

[109:24]everybody is vaccinated so remember the swiss cheese model so now you

[109:29]have vaccine you have the mitigation processes you have the masking you

[109:33]have the reduced class size you have the hours the two shifts

[109:37]and all that that is going to create a safe environment if

[109:40]we go back in person by march so i'll start with the

[110:32]second question first was president biden said we'll open up centers to

[110:36]mass vaccinate people i think if you look the city of detroit

[110:38]they're working in the old cobo hall the tcf center where they're

[110:41]trying to organize a mass vaccination site for residents of detroit i

[110:45]think as the vaccine becomes more widely available we'll see possibly centers

[110:48]like this pop up across the state or what might be more

[110:53]likely is currently we have a lot of drive-through testing cova testing

[110:55]clinics you might see many of those arise we have one at

[110:59]honeypot centennial library we have one throughout dearborn and throughout several other

[111:04]cities so i think that's the more likely option for receiving the

[111:07]vaccine to your first question about trusting the logistics and and those

[111:11]in government i don't want to say don't trust politicians because i

[111:16]fall into that category unfortunately what i will say is have faith

[111:19]in the public health community have faith and those who are at

[111:23]the head of the health and human services department at the state

[111:26]of michigan that have been doing a phenomenal job have faith and

[111:29]dr hamami was at wayne public health department have faith in dr

[111:32]maher who is a physician in her own right and and and

[111:35]the fact that they are prioritizing the public's health when it pertains

[111:39]to logistics we are doing all we can to prioritize the most

[111:43]vulnerable population first and then try to disseminate the vaccine to the

[111:46]remainder of the population i mean i myself fall into one of

[111:50]the last categories i mean i'm not trying to skip lines as

[111:52]was mentioned earlier i'm trying to be patient and wait my turn

[111:56]and make sure that those who need it now get it first

[111:58]so we each have a role and responsibility in this as well

[112:03]thank you thank you representative i think we're going to wrap it

[112:08]up for for the night maybe you can you can ask it

[112:11]after after the program so that okay go ahead go ahead regarding

[112:43]your question abu ahmed i would say yes the question was would

[112:49]you take the vaccine yourself once it is offered to you yes

[112:54]i would take it once it is available and one once uh

[113:00]i have access to it i my first i myself uh i

[113:03]i i plan on taking it my family they have mixed feelings

[113:09]about it some of them uh say they would like to take

[113:12]it and some say we would like to wait a little bit

[113:15]more to see of more results coming from the vaccination campaign but

[113:24]i personally if it's offered to me i will take it okay

[113:28]thank you this brings our program to an end i would like

[113:32]to thank each of our of our panelists for all the details

[113:36]and knowledge and uh clarifying all the misinformation and i also would

[113:43]like to thank the members of the health committee for doing work

[113:47]behind the scenes and putting this panel together including hajin ajah bazi

[113:54]and sister i want to thank the nyc volunteers for their help

[114:00]today and most importantly thank thanks to all of you for attending

[114:03]as well as those who were following us virtually inshallah this session

[114:09]was helpful and useful and that we pray for these challenging times

[114:13]to come to an end soon and we pray for the quick

[114:20]recovery of those suffering from kobe 19.

[114:21]and inshallah we all meet again soon and in better times also

[114:28]i would like to thank the panelists and also i would like

[114:40]to thank the health initiative committee here at the islamic institute of

[114:46]america headed by our sister hajj naja and sister maya murtara i

[114:56]was hoping that we can also hear from hajinaja as well since

[115:01]she is heavily involved in in community affairs and she told me

[115:07]today she was elected or selected by governor uh whitmer as a

[115:14]member of which committee had the the the committee overseeing the distribution

[115:21]of the vaccine i'm sorry protect michigan the protect michigan committee i

[115:26]see protect michigan committee so congratulations hajin ajaf are being picked by

[115:32]the governor for that position we really wanted to hear from you

[115:38]but i unfortunately i think uh we have uh come to the

[115:43]end of our program but thank you so much hajja for putting

[115:46]this event together you and hajime and thanks to the nyc brothers

[115:50]and sisters who also helped pulling this event together

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