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What do Iran’s Emergency Elections REALLY MEAN?
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Iranian freelance journalist and university lecturer Setareh Sadeqi delves into the conspiracies surrounding late Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi's death, and the fast approaching presidential elections that will elect the nation's next leader. SUPPORT TMJ News: https://www.gofundme.com/f/tmjnews VISIT TMJ's homepage: https://www.tmj.news FOLLOW TMJ News: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tmjnewsnetwork Instagram: https://instagram.com/tmjnewsnetwork Facebook: https://facebook.com/tmjnewsnetwork Twitter: https://twitter.com/tmjnewsnetwork
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[0:00]is it even possible to pay these many people to come and
[0:06]attend the funeral having below 50% voter turnout is pretty significant when
[0:11]you're considering voting for a country's leadership the Islamic Republic still enjoys
[0:16]a great level of support Iranians have complained their government is this
[0:22]lack of transparency the vetting process caused a lot of dis satisfaction
[0:28]why is it that we care so much about Palestine [Music] salum
[0:37]and welcome to another episode on the TMJ podcast today we are
[0:43]talking about the fast approaching Iranian presidential elections with satari she is
[0:47]a freelance journalist and translator based in Isfahan Iran she's also a
[0:51]lecturer in political sciences with a PhD in North American studies from
[0:58]the University of tan satar also hosts a podcast on YouTube called
[1:01]twice told Tales thank you again sat for being our guest today
[1:06]I really appreciate your time especially coming to speak with us at
[1:10]a really important time period in Iranian politics having gone through a
[1:13]series of very important uh significant issues in the past few months
[1:17]and I really want to start the conversation with the death and
[1:21]the passing of the Iranian president president ibraim RI um which was
[1:25]a shock to not only Iranians but people all around the world
[1:28]from what I know the Iranian media has not officially said there
[1:32]have been any foreign influences and they say it was an accident
[1:36]so have there been any updates on that front thanks for having
[1:38]me well as you mentioned the Iranian media has not pointed to
[1:43]any chances of sabotage or foreign involvement in what happened to the
[1:48]helicopter with that was carrying our president and our foreign minister do
[1:53]Iranian government strongly rejected the chances after doing their investigations you hear
[2:01]from like maybe on um social on social media among Iranians that
[2:06]there are guesses of uh some sort of foreign involvement especially because
[2:11]first of all we have a history of being attacked and there
[2:15]have been uh assassinations inside Iran carried out mostly by um Meek
[2:23]the terrorist organization funded and sponsored and trained by mad and at
[2:29]some point by CIA as well uh so it's like it suddenly
[2:31]reminds people of what has happened in the past and they want
[2:37]to somehow relate the same the the incident to the same factors
[2:40]that were involved in the assassination of other Iranian officials throughout all
[2:46]these decades After the Revolution and the other uh factor that made
[2:52]people make speculations is that the incident happened right after president RI
[2:59]met with Alf the president of the of a and is known
[3:05]to be a stun Ally of Israel Alf has opened relations with
[3:09]the Israeli regime uh and these all happened after there were tensions
[3:14]between uh Iran and the Israeli regime after the Iranian Embassy was
[3:19]attacked in Damascus and Iran responded to that I mean there are
[3:27]reasons why people made these speculations but the investigations showed nothing or
[3:31]suggested nothing that would imply there was some sort of sabotage or
[3:38]foreign involvement right and with the passing what Legacy would you say
[3:42]that the late president left for the Iranian people and internationally well
[3:45]I think uh two most uh important events that happened during President
[3:53]R's term in office uh where first Iran joining bricks and the
[3:58]formation of um bricks or the expansion of bricks and the welcoming
[4:05]of bricks uh to like welcoming other countries to become a part
[4:10]of it which is very threatening to the to the US and
[4:16]uh the current world order it has um implications for the Iranian
[4:22]economy it could help ease sanctions as Iran can use other currencies
[4:27]other than uh dollar which we have been a banned from using
[4:31]and we have been isolated from the international banking system and Bricks
[4:36]developing their own uh currency and a banking system would help Iran
[4:42]in in uh many different ways but also implications for the global
[4:48]uh World Order and uh threatening um dollar and threatening uh K
[4:53]world order that has been um you know harming or pressuring countries
[4:58]that do not subjugate to to the US and did not submit
[5:03]to the will of the hamen right the other thing was Iran's
[5:07]response to israeli's uh aggression against against the country for many years
[5:14]Iranians have wanted have sought that the government would somehow respond to
[5:20]really aggressions it wasn't a a military direct military uh action against
[5:25]the Iranian uh sovereignty but it was in many ways forms of
[5:31]aggression by the Israeli regime for example the attacks on our uh
[5:35]military facilities through drones or the Cyber attack on our nuclear facility
[5:41]the assassination of our nuclear scientists by mad uh so there there
[5:44]have been all sorts of aggression but Iran never actually responded militarily
[5:50]and this was the first time that Iran I mean the public
[5:54]opinion inside Iran on the global international uh Global and international public
[6:00]opinion was so ready for a response by Iran because of what's
[6:03]going on in Gaza the genocide that everyone is seeing and as
[6:09]you know like that was praised by a lot of people and
[6:11]Nations absolutely and I think in some ways the the few legacies
[6:15]that you mentioned speak for themselves because we did see on the
[6:19]media of course Western media did not really cover this as much
[6:22]but there were millions of Iranians that uh showed up to his
[6:24]funeral that participated and one thing I also want to ask you
[6:29]about is similar to other cases is we have seen with Iran
[6:31]where during major events throughout the year you have a very significant
[6:35]population of Iranians pouring out into the streets we always hear these
[6:41]um kind of rhetorics of oh these people were paid off or
[6:43]they were kind of you know this is all government propaganda to
[6:46]show that the people are truly with the government this also happened
[6:51]with the funeral of the president what would you respond to that
[6:54]I mean it's been so cliched and so much so many times
[6:57]repeated that there are many jokes about it inside the Iranian Society
[7:04]like there are these memes or there videos on social media how
[7:08]they make fun of this false allegations uh and it just it
[7:13]just suggests that how people are very or uh I mean it's
[7:15]mostly Western media but how they're either very ignorant about the Iranian
[7:19]Society or uh deliberately wants to play around the facts and not
[7:27]show the realities and they cannot understand how uh the Islamic Republic
[7:32]Republic still enjoys a great level of support by its people uh
[7:36]despite all the uh pressures and aggressions and all the difficulties and
[7:41]challenges that the country has gone through and is still going through
[7:45]it's very difficult for them to understand how this happens I'm from
[7:49]esphahan and I live in esphahan but I happen to be in
[7:54]tan I attended the funeral and there were a lot of I
[7:58]mean the crowds were so large and it was so huge that
[8:00]we were fearing and uh that uh Stampede would happen and I
[8:06]actually because I was with a an American friend who is an
[8:09]investigative journalist and I would uh we would talk to people and
[8:15]I would uh help with the translations and we ask our people
[8:17]that you know that Western media says that you have been paid
[8:21]to to come here right and you saw people like women uh
[8:27]teenagers young uh women young men uh older people old their men
[8:31]and women well actually weeping the death of the president and when
[8:35]I asked them like they With Tears in their eyes they would
[8:39]tell me like one lady said that he she feels that she
[8:42]has lost um her own dad and that's how it was like
[8:47]uh tragic for her the other one said if people or in
[8:52]the west or if with Western media think that uh we have
[8:54]been paid they should come here and see is it even possible
[8:59]to pay the these many people to come and attend the funeral
[9:03]and no we have come because we loved our president and it's
[9:09]not just now that he has passed away it's because we have
[9:12]uh appreciated what he has done uh especially it was interesting for
[9:18]me especially for the working class they mentioned specifically that they came
[9:20]from the working class and they were very um satisfied with the
[9:25]policies that he had right I think maybe one of the reasons
[9:27]why these uh this rhetoric comes out a lot is because the
[9:32]side that kind of tries to paint this in a way where
[9:33]all Iranians were actually rejoicing over this fact they tend to be
[9:40]very loud about their sentiments you know we had some videos coming
[9:43]out uh from Iran and others um internationally where you had a
[9:47]subsection of Iranians in the diaspora uh rejoicing over the death of
[9:53]the president you had some people showing up in front of actual
[9:57]memorial events for him uh kind of protesting so you also had
[9:59]a very small Subs segment of of people showing happiness about this
[10:03]where do you think that might stem from is this about some
[10:07]sort of Revenge well I think it's very important to know that
[10:10]even in those videos that went viral where a part of Iranian
[10:18]diaspora or Iranians inside Iran were um filmed as like um celebrating
[10:22]the death of the president they were very very few people like
[10:25]the images that we have for example in front of Iranian Embassy
[10:30]in London or uh a memorial for him somewhere in the US
[10:32]there are just a handful of people and they're not really many
[10:37]people but they they let the Western media definitely likes to portray
[10:41]them as the majority as the as the ones that whose opinion
[10:44]uh counts some of these people who were shown as celebrating the
[10:50]death of the president were waving Israeli Flags too absolutely and it
[10:55]it should tell you where it comes from right it's exactly uh
[10:58]and I personally don't know I mean I know a lot of
[11:02]people who didn't like him or didn't vote for him I personally
[11:04]didn't vote for him but I had a lot of respect for
[11:08]him I really didn't see anyone celebrating his death uh and I'm
[11:12]not saying that that they don't exist they do exist uh for
[11:16]sure but I think it's the effect of propaganda uh unfortunately and
[11:20]it's affecting Iranians as well because of the propaganda that exists that
[11:27]wants to portray him as uh you know um a president who's
[11:32]responsible for the death of Iranian people but when you ask them
[11:35]like what what do you mean by the death of Iranian people
[11:41]they don't really uh have an idea and a lot of these
[11:43]things a lot of these you know allegations started by the MK
[11:47]organization and that's I think another very important uh point to keep
[11:55]in mind that a lot of these fake news comes from organizations
[11:58]that once were um listed as terrorist organizations because they have killed
[12:04]many Iranians but also um Iraqis in the case of MK MK
[12:10]has killed Americans as well so they they're a terrorist cult and
[12:14]they live in uh camps uh and they are responsible for spreading
[12:18]all these like fake news and false information right and it is
[12:23]also interesting to know um how us support kind of fluctuates with
[12:27]groups like these where for example at first even the US will
[12:29]Design the me as a terrorist organization but when it starts to
[12:34]serve their purposes they're taken off that list and now suddenly they're
[12:38]no longer a terrorist organization so that's that's also you know in
[12:40]line with what you were saying really important to note because all
[12:43]of this has very real consequences for the people of a country
[12:46]that are receiving all of this uh propaganda Iran is now also
[12:53]uh inching very close to the elections as we know this is
[12:56]coming about a year early but because of the circumstances it's been
[12:59]kind of pushed forward do you think that the recent you know
[13:03]death or the passing of the president is going to encourage more
[13:06]people to vote usually with and we're going to get to voter
[13:10]turnout as well but uh you have some people also saying you
[13:12]know everyone should refrain from voting show your discontent with the government
[13:16]by not voting whereas some people are actually taking this as a
[13:19]sign to you know go to the polls and actually voice their
[13:23]um opinions and their demands from the government through voting itself how
[13:27]do you think this might be impacting the way people show up
[13:29]to the gos this year based on my uh personal observation I
[13:34]think there are more people going to vote because uh they felt
[13:38]very strong about uh the passing away of their president but also
[13:42]it's actually like it's one of the uh presidental presidential elections that
[13:46]it's very difficult to predict like usually it would be be between
[13:53]two main candidates that you would have guesses but now it's you
[13:57]don't really know um so yeah so so that excitement tells me
[14:04]that it's probably higher than the last time that we had a
[14:07]presidential election which actually witnessed the lowest turnout since the um Islamic
[14:13]revolution right and uh what are some of the major demands this
[14:16]time around that Iranians have from their government and what are they
[14:20]expecting to see from the candidates what are they kind of looking
[14:23]for in terms of qualifications demands especially for uh economic relief which
[14:28]is something that many Iran are struggling with what are kind of
[14:31]some of those major points that they're looking at right now I
[14:34]think the main one and the most important one is definitely the
[14:37]economy um we have been struggling and for the past few years
[14:42]it's been U more difficult than ever that for example I remember
[14:46]it's in my in my life as an adult at least because
[14:51]we had economic ease after the war like during the war the
[14:54]8ye imposed war on us backed by the US and carried out
[15:00]by saddam's regime uh it was very difficult and when we came
[15:03]out of that war it was we went through a lot of
[15:07]Financial and economic challenges but we had uh periods of prosperity and
[15:12]the country starting to flourish but for the past like maybe four
[15:17]or five years it's been very difficult and each year it has
[15:20]become more difficult so that's number one and people want to see
[15:25]more employment uh people want to see that the value of our
[15:29]currency increases and uh move towards a more stable economy because right
[15:34]now there is not Economic Security uh prices can change overnight and
[15:38]it's very very risky to invest on anything that's like uh number
[15:44]one um thing that people are looking for another thing that I
[15:50]have seen people are trying to pay attention to is um a
[15:52]foreign policy that relies more on domestic uh uh you know the
[16:01]capability rather than whether or not for example will we can have
[16:04]a deal with the us or you know improved relations with the
[16:08]us because in our experience like people had a lot of hope
[16:12]that the nuclear deal would um bring about economic relief and like
[16:16]you know make things easier for them but this did not happen
[16:21]not because of the deal but because the US unilaterally like withdrew
[16:25]from the deal and this could happen at any time so they
[16:28]have learned uh in many different ways that the US cannot be
[16:34]trusted the Europeans just follow um the US so if anything is
[16:36]going to happen that brings about economic uh some sort of economic
[16:40]ease uh uh should happen from inside and we should not be
[16:47]looking at the us or Europe to bring about um economic um
[16:50]ease for us 100% And speaking about uh economic challenges that's something
[16:55]that Iranians especially in the recent years have really been Ling with
[17:01]and in terms of just uh looking at the reasons why voter
[17:04]turnout rates are affected by these it also has a significant impact
[17:07]of how satisfied are people with the way that their government is
[17:12]handling their society and their economy um just to pull up some
[17:15]numbers and we're going to kind of shift into the conversation about
[17:17]voter turnout because I think that's also important given how the elections
[17:20]are coming up for presidential elections the most recent one in 2021
[17:24]which is when uh president RI came into Power um the voter
[17:30]turnout rate was 48.8% which is below 50% of the country's population
[17:34]and this is a huge drop uh from other years where for
[17:37]example in 2013 and 2017 I believe you had 73% uh voter
[17:43]turnout and in 20 2009 it was around 85% so this these
[17:48]are very high numbers and then suddenly we're dropping um we see
[17:52]similar Trends with the Parliamentary elections I believe this year there it
[17:56]was about 40% uh for the Parliamentary elections and I believe these
[17:59]numbers are from the interior Ministry so correct me if I'm wrong
[18:02]but what what would you say the reason is cuz these are
[18:06]you know having below 50% voter turnout is pretty significant when you're
[18:11]considering um voting for a country's leadership what would you say kind
[18:15]of the reasons behind these statistics are well one thing as as
[18:18]we mentioned is the uh the situation with the economy the financial
[18:23]challenges that people are going through and uh because they have been
[18:28]promised that for example a nuclear would solve the problem or we're
[18:31]going to just rely on domestic production but uh they did not
[18:34]really see a tangible change in their lives they're not they're dissatisfied
[18:38]and they want to show that to the government but the other
[18:42]thing is also the vetting process especially uh three years ago the
[18:46]vetting process uh caused a lot of dissatisfaction not only among people
[18:51]but also among political Elites and um important figures and they criticized
[18:55]the guardian Council for disqualifying uh prominent figures that would have like
[19:02]there had a lot of friends within um the society they might
[19:08]have not uh won the election anyways but they had a a
[19:11]significant support within the public this year also there was criticism for
[19:16]the vetting process but it was more severe last year I mean
[19:21]the last election that we had and that's one reason because people
[19:25]um um kind of felt insulted they felt that they are their
[19:28]choices have been like limited on purpose the government failed to convince
[19:36]the public opinion why exactly this happened so these two I I
[19:43]think were the main factors for the low the very low turnouts
[19:46]in general parliamentary elections are usually usually witness much I mean lower
[19:50]turnout in comparison with the presidential elections but this year was uh
[19:55]like historic little turnout and part of it was because of the
[20:00]vetting process and also the economic challenges that people were facing and
[20:04]they were not seeing um anything uh different and the people the
[20:08]the candidates were not very different from uh pre like uh the
[20:11]previous term so they did not really hope that something would change
[20:16]whereas for example the president with the presidential election this year we're
[20:19]seeing a more like diverse um you know arrangement of the candidates
[20:27]so there's like more hope of change and I think think we
[20:30]will probably see I wouldn't say like much higher turnout but slightly
[20:35]higher turnout vo turnout uh but it also depends on how the
[20:42]uh presidential debates will go right and just to be clear before
[20:44]we kind of move on to the next question what you mean
[20:47]by the vetting process I believe it's when the government uh is
[20:50]the one that decides whether certain candidates are eligible to make it
[20:54]to the final rounds is that correct yes that's exactly like the
[20:57]guardian Council uh reviews the candidates uh capabilities backgrounds and CVS and
[21:04]everything and they decide uh which of the cand which of the
[21:10]people who have registered um can actually run for the presidency and
[21:14]we have seen uh people like Ali Jani who was the head
[21:19]of uh the parliament for many years he was he's been in
[21:21]the establishment for many years he was disqualified uh Mahmud Ahmed NAD
[21:27]who was the president for eight years he was disqualified so there
[21:30]were a number of people who were really very like kind of
[21:32]popular and had some sort of support and they were disqualified for
[21:38]from uh running uh from presidency for various reasons but as the
[21:43]guardian council did not really convince the people why these these um
[21:47]people have been disqualified people feel like some sort of dissatisfaction with
[21:51]that process and so is there like a specific U metric that
[21:54]is used to identify which candidates are suitable to make it to
[21:59]the the final round or is it kind of arbitrary I guess
[22:01]there is but it's not something very transparent and that's one of
[22:07]the problems because it's it's uh like you will see for example
[22:11]letters coming out in a few months that list the reasons why
[22:14]a certain person was uh disqualified but these are like our guesses
[22:19]you don't know how uh you know reliable those sources are so
[22:22]it's there is kind of U lack of transparency that makes it
[22:26]difficult to believe what exactly reason wise and sometimes because it's personal
[22:31]it's like a private reason they cannot share it with the public
[22:36]uh in the case of aliani there was this uh going for
[22:43]example um viral online that he has his children live abroad like
[22:47]in the US and that's one reason that he has been uh
[22:50]disqualified because of security uh concerns how um reliable that information is
[22:57]or if that's exactly what has happened it's difficult to know absolutely
[23:02]and um you mentioned transparency I think that's one thing that we
[23:06]should also touch on one thing that um historically or at least
[23:10]in the past several years Iranians have complained of with their government
[23:15]is this lack of transparency especially when it comes to their economic
[23:17]grievances do you think uh from what you're seeing from the candidates
[23:22]that are uh kind of running right now do you think that
[23:24]maybe transparency is something that might be improved maybe Iranians can expect
[23:28]higher levels of government accountability and transparency is that something that you
[23:31]foresee happening whether or not we're going to see a more transparency
[23:38]really depends on who's going to win the elections for example right
[23:41]now we have the head of the parliament running as a candidate
[23:45]and the same Parliament voted against um um M like MP's trans
[23:55]like vote transparency so uh there was this bill uh introduced at
[23:59]the Parliament that people should know what their candidates have like which
[24:04]laws or legislations the candidates have voted for and the Parliament members
[24:09]voted against that transparency so this is like something that people uh
[24:13]are not happy with like they want to know that the people
[24:15]that they have voted for like what are what do they think
[24:20]of a certain legislation or uh you know resolutions so they want
[24:23]to know and they voted against that transparency but it really depends
[24:26]on how I mean I think that's one thing that will not
[24:31]directly but indirectly come up in the presidential debates and people will
[24:35]decide on that in terms of kind of standing for Iranians and
[24:39]what they want Iran has kind of been one of the very
[24:43]few Muslim nations that has really stood with Palestine in word and
[24:46]in action and we have seen it significantly in the past several
[24:49]months one thing that uh often comes up in questions among the
[24:54]Muslim umah and the dialogue about Palestine is Iran is often excluded
[24:58]from that conversation even though a lot of the kind of I
[25:01]would say Arab nations are uh speaking a lot about Palestine but
[25:06]in action um whether it's economic policies or just separating their foreign
[25:09]policies from the Israeli regime have kind of fallen short in that
[25:14]sense why would you say that um Iran is often ignored or
[25:17]brushed off in this larger conversation I mean uh as always I
[25:21]think the main reason is the propaganda the anti- Iran propaganda that
[25:26]uh is produced by the west but is consumed uh in the
[25:29]Reg but it's also there there are a few factors that make
[25:33]it difficult for people who do not really have direct interaction with
[25:36]Iran or have not experienced for example traveling to Iran or knowing
[25:41]people and uh Iranians or the political system uh make it difficult
[25:45]for them to understand where Iran stands when it comes to Palestine
[25:48]or how it is the issues related to uh to Iran one
[25:53]thing is Arab nationalism because Iranians are not uh Arabs they're like
[25:59]naturally excluded from the rest of the Muslim the other one is
[26:05]that the majority of Iranians are Shia while the majority of the
[26:08]Muslim are Sunni for example the the states the Persian Gulf State
[26:11]all of them or at least the majority of them are like
[26:16]us allies and they want to have Rel good relations with the
[26:22]US and they have actually ignored public opinion because like when you
[26:26]look at Jordan when you look at Egypt Saudi Arabia bahin the
[26:31]people really support um Palestine and they have it's a part of
[26:35]their identity to support Palestine and the liberation of Palestine and they
[26:40]strongly disagree with their with what their governments say but because it
[26:46]is the governments who run the media and who put forward what
[26:50]you know the nation thinks or how they behave towards a certain
[26:54]Nation what we perceive is that they they want to exclude Iran
[27:00]and they don't really understand the support that Iran has been um
[27:04]offering to Palestine and it's they usually uh don't understand that like
[27:09]um it's a very very important part of our constitution to support
[27:15]the oppressed people and it's one of the main uh ideals of
[27:21]the Islamic revolution even before the Revolution of our like of Imam
[27:25]K or other important figures within the Islamic revolution you see that
[27:29]Palestine is a central issue and even before the Islamic revolution the
[27:34]Iranian Nation always supported Palestine so that's why you see for example
[27:39]um the Monarch the Sha of Iran also tries to add on
[27:45]like occasionally speak about how Iranians care for Palestine and Palestine is
[27:49]an important issue because he knew that that's what the public op
[27:53]and demanded right and uh one last question to kind of tie
[27:56]this to Iranian public opinion since we've kind of been visiting that
[27:58]theme one thing that um you a lot of times hear some
[28:04]Iranians say is why is our country supporting financially whatever um the
[28:09]people of Palestine when our own people are going hungry and we
[28:12]have so many you know economic struggles why is it that we
[28:17]care so much about Palestine now obviously I would say this is
[28:19]far from being the majority of the people but again these are
[28:23]kind of the sentiments that at least Western media tries to overemphasize
[28:27]when it's covering um Iran and it's public opinion how would you
[28:31]kind of respond to that well uh as you said um part
[28:36]of it is because of the misrepresentation of the IR Iranian public
[28:41]opinion because you know usually the for example the working class the
[28:45]religious people are not represented as Iranians in the western media when
[28:49]the West wants to talk about Iran and Iranians we usually have
[28:52]the secular well-off Iranians who live in northern tan rather than in
[28:57]other uh places there is a portion of the Iranian uh population
[29:04]that unfortunately falls for the propaganda and these questions are put forward
[29:09]by uh farsy speaking propaganda channels and they just repeat that it's
[29:13]not like a genan question but yes that's that's a debate that
[29:16]we have and um like you would um see happening in even
[29:24]family gatherings uh but my like um my response and even some
[29:26]of my friends um or a lot of my friends who do
[29:32]not necessarily support the government for example they wouldn't want to take
[29:35]part in the election they still support Palestine they understand because they
[29:41]cannot forget how for example the Mad trained uh the intelligent service
[29:46]of sha to carry out all sorts of torture methods on Iranian
[29:51]dissidents or how the Israeli regime has assassinated our nuclear scientist has
[29:58]attacked our uh military facility so and I saw a lot of
[30:03]people who did not who like strongly opposed the government were very
[30:07]happy when uh the operation true promise happened they were like feeling
[30:11]very proud of that and that's actually one thing that I think
[30:14]will bring more people to the you know to the voting ballots
[30:20]because they want to vote now that they see their government as
[30:24]standing very strong uh but I mean apart from the IDE IDE
[30:28]logical uh factors that play a role in supporting Palestine in terms
[30:35]of security uh and foreign policy we always see uh the Israeli
[30:38]regime as a rapid dog that has to be you know kept
[30:43]far away from Iran so if you do not deter the threat
[30:45]of Israeli regime inside the occupied lands it's going to Israel is
[30:49]not going to stay happy with what it has it's going to
[30:53]spread towards uh and right now that's what's happening actually uh but
[30:57]they would the threat of the is really regime would spread throughout
[31:00]the region and it would reach uh to Iran we would be
[31:05]even targeted and threatened more strongly if we did not have a
[31:08]policy that uh that included or that highlighted the uh like fighting
[31:16]is the Israeli regime and the other thing is that if you
[31:20]do not oppose occupation of a land no matter who is occupying
[31:24]that land I mean in this case it's the Israeli regime and
[31:27]it's the Palestinian Nation who are our Muslim Brothers I mean also
[31:31]the Christian uh and Jewish Palestinians they our brothers in humanity and
[31:36]um apart from that if you do not oppose a genocide if
[31:42]you do not do not oppose uh occupation illegal occupation of a
[31:46]land it could happen to you any time and then it's too
[31:51]late to start opposing it so it's it's common sense it's basic
[31:55]common sense that um encourages irans and Iran Iran and Iranians to
[31:59]support Palestine the Palestinian Liberation 100% well thank you so much that'sa
[32:05]for your time I really appreciate your your insights very eye openening
[32:09]um and we all praying that inell the election the upcoming election
[32:13]in Iran result and a president that is the best for the
[32:17]future and for the people of Iran inshallah thanks for having me
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