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Islamic Perspective on Evolution - Sayed Mohammad Baqer Qazwini
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Ramadan 2019 - "Islamic Perspective on Evolution" - Sayed Mohammad Baqer Qazwini
Night 3 - Ramadan 2019 - 1440 at the Ahlul Bayt Center of Toledo
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[0:06]I begin in the name of the Almighty God, the compassionate, the
[0:12]merciful, the one who has created everything in utmost perfection.
[0:16]And may the peace and blessings of the Almighty God be upon
[0:21]his pure and beloved messenger, the peak of his creation, the symbol
[0:26]of humanity, the holy prophet Muhammad sallall.aii.
[0:31]Muhammad and his immaculate progeny of the B peace be upon them.
[0:40]Allah subhana wa ta'ala states in the holy Quran in why is
[0:55]it that you do not long to go to your Lord who
[1:01]has glory and majesty and he has created you in stages.
[1:10]Illuminate your hearts and minds with a very loud salawat.
[1:21]Evolution, it's an issue that is hotly debated today in the religious
[1:30]circles, in academic and scientific circles.
[1:34]And there are many people who are religious who are trying to
[1:37]make sense of this theory.
[1:39]How does this theory impact me and my religious values and beliefs?
[1:45]You find that there are many people today who are using this
[1:54]theory to disprove religion to make the claim that we no longer
[1:58]need to believe in a god, in a creator, in an intelligent
[2:00]designer.
[2:02]Because evolution can explain life for us.
[2:06]This is something that's hotly debated and contested.
[2:11]Therefore, it is very important for us to make some sense of
[2:18]this theory of evolution.
[2:18]See what is the Islamic perspective on it.
[2:22]What is the view of our scholars on evolution?
[2:26]And does it really prove that there is no need for a
[2:31]creator, for an intelligent designer?
[2:36]We will examine this very fundamental issue in our discussion tonight.
[2:40]Before we examine the Islamic perspective on evolution, let's briefly examine the
[2:47]history of evolution, especially with Darwin because Darwin, Charles Darwin, is seen
[2:54]as the father of the evolutionary theory.
[2:56]We find that Darwin who came in the 19th century, he was
[3:04]a biologist, a geologist, a naturalist.
[3:07]He was not the first to talk about evolution.
[3:13]In fact, scientists before him such as Lamar and others had already
[3:19]discussed evolution.
[3:18]But what Charles Darwin did, he developed this theory.
[3:24]And that's why he's considered the father of evolution.
[3:28]When you look at the history of Darwin, it's really an interesting
[3:33]history.
[3:33]Darwin came from a scholarly family.
[3:38]His grandfather was a doctor, a well-known doctor.
[3:39]Now, he was not known to be very bright in his academic
[3:45]studies.
[3:46]In fact, his father would constantly be frustrated with him when he
[3:51]would see that he was not doing so well at school.
[3:53]He would see his son busy with a hobby that his father
[3:59]didn't understand.
[3:58]Darwin had a hobby.
[4:01]He would go and collect insects.
[4:02]He would collect, you know, the eggs of birds and study them.
[4:08]And he would not do so well in school.
[4:11]He was not a genius from that aspect.
[4:14]He did not have a very high IQ.
[4:17]And that's something that really frustrated his father.
[4:21]However, Darwin, even though he did not really have a very high
[4:26]IQ, you know, anything that's extraordinary, but he had one type of
[4:34]intelligence that made him stand out in history.
[4:38]He was very innovative and excessively creative.
[4:39]And it is this innovation that led him to the theory of
[4:45]evolution and natural selection as we shall see.
[4:49]So basically one day one of the teachers of Darwin Hemsow he
[4:52]comes to his father he tells him look your son is not
[4:57]an idiot.
[4:56]Darwin is not an idiot.
[4:58]Trust me I'm his teacher and I know he's pretty smart.
[5:01]Why don't you give him an opportunity?
[5:04]There is a voyage.
[5:07]There's an expedition, a journey that's going to examine some islands, some
[5:12]different places.
[5:12]It's a scientific journey.
[5:16]Let your son go.
[5:15]He is smart.
[5:16]He has that innovation.
[5:18]So finally his father agrees.
[5:24]Darwin goes on this journey.
[5:25]This became the most important journey in the history of modern science.
[5:30]It lasted for about 5 years from 1831 to 1836.
[5:36]It's called the voyage of the beagle.
[5:42]If you examine the history of it, it's called the journey of
[5:47]the beagle.
[5:48]He went there for five years and Darwin collected the specimens that
[5:53]he wanted to go back home and analyze them.
[5:58]Once he studied different geographies, different species of animals, he came up
[6:02]with his landmark idea.
[6:05]He came back home and after a while he wrote his famous
[6:09]book, The Origin of Species.
[6:13]And in this book he talks about evolution, natural selection and how
[6:19]evolution occurs through natural selection.
[6:22]Now once he did that there was an outrage in Europe especially
[6:27]amongst religious people especially Christians because when Darwin came up with this
[6:31]idea he directly challenged the idea of creationism in the Bible in
[6:38]the book of Genesis that the earth was created 6,000 years ago.
[6:43]This is something he challenged.
[6:45]He showed that these species have evolved through thousands, hundreds of thousands
[6:51]and even millions of years.
[6:52]And this made a lot of people uncomfortable.
[6:56]In fact, when he died in 1882, two prominent people avoided his
[7:00]funeral.
[7:01]The Archbishop of Canterbury, he did not make it.
[7:06]The prime minister, Gladstone of England, he also skipped the funeral.
[7:09]They made up their excuses, but they're like, "We're not going to
[7:12]his funeral because they were Christians." And Darwin basically just destroyed our
[7:18]faith.
[7:19]He's, you know, a heretic.
[7:21]Whatever it is, we're not going.
[7:25]He did really shake up the Christian world.
[7:26]Those who believe in the creationism of the Bible.
[7:31]Now after that many people came especially atheists they used his idea
[7:36]to try to negate the existence of God.
[7:41]Now when we talk about evolution my dear brothers and sisters we
[7:45]have to make it very clear that there is a distinction between
[7:49]microeolution and macroeolution.
[7:51]Often times people mix these up especially those who have an agenda.
[7:56]I've seen them.
[7:58]They try to reject the existence of God.
[8:01]They quickly will give you examples of micro evolution to say that
[8:07]evolution is something that I can see in front of me.
[8:11]I can see it under the microscope.
[8:13]I can see something evolving and changing.
[8:17]There's a difference between these two.
[8:19]No one disputes micro evolution.
[8:21]Micro evolution is the evolution that happens within one species.
[8:25]When a species evolves, adapts, that's not something that anyone disproves.
[8:30]This is accepted by everyone.
[8:32]For example, if you've heard of stories of uh some parts of
[8:37]the world where you want to get rid of insects and you
[8:42]spray them with pesticides, right?
[8:43]After a while, you see the new generation of insects, they somehow
[8:49]develop resistance to this pesticide.
[8:52]it no longer works with them because they start to adapt.
[8:57]Another example which was very famous in history, some of you might
[9:03]have read about it is the peppered moth.
[9:04]Basically, right before the industrial revolution in England, there was so much
[9:13]smoke and pollution in the atmosphere that certain types of moths or
[9:18]butterflies started to change their color.
[9:22]Because when the air was pure and everything was light, they wanted
[9:29]to camouflage themselves to be safe from predators.
[9:34]So the color of those moths was light.
[9:36]After the industrial revolution, when the whole environment was polluted, in order
[9:43]not to be visible, they could no longer be bright.
[9:47]They had to be dark.
[9:48]So over a few decades they actually evolved to becoming dark.
[9:55]These are all examples of micro evolution.
[9:56]When we talk about the theory of evolution, we're not talking about
[10:02]this.
[9:59]We're talking about macro evolution.
[10:03]When evolution happens at a large scale from one kind of species
[10:11]to another kind, a mutation occurs and one species evolves into different
[10:15]species.
[10:16]This is what has been debated in the last decades or the
[10:20]last century actually.
[10:20]So what is our p perspective on the theory of evolution?
[10:25]Because today you will find many scientists in fact most scientists biologists
[10:29]today believe in evolution.
[10:31]There is overwhelming evidence that species do evolve and that most animals
[10:37]today if not all animals around the world have a common ancestor.
[10:41]Now they could disagree on the details.
[10:44]That single, you know, cell in the oceans and then it evolved
[10:51]into an animal that was aquatic that lived in the sea, then
[10:55]into an amphibian that you would live in the sea and on
[11:00]land, then land animals and so on and so forth.
[11:01]There could be a lot of disagreements on the details.
[11:06]But as for the process of evolution that many of the creatures
[11:11]that we see today go back to a common ancestor, this is
[11:16]something that most scientists today firmly believe in and there is overwhelming
[11:22]evidence that points in that direction.
[11:23]Even though we don't have conclusive evidence, but there is overwhelming evidence.
[11:28]So what is our perspective my dear brothers and sisters in the
[11:32]religion of Islam?
[11:34]Does Islam believe in evolution?
[11:35]And does evolution mean that we no longer need a creator in
[11:41]order to you know create us?
[11:43]Because you have this process of evolution that does things randomly through
[11:49]natural selection through so many you know different ways.
[11:52]What's our perspective?
[11:54]There are two very fundamental points to share with you here.
[11:57]The first is about the process of evolution.
[12:00]Second is about human beings being impacted by evolution and whether prophet
[12:06]Adam evolved from a common ancestor.
[12:09]We'll examine these two points very briefly.
[12:12]The first point there is no doubt that any living creature is
[12:19]impacted by its environment.
[12:21]That's what differentiates living beings from inanimate objects.
[12:26]What's the difference between something that has life and a rock?
[12:29]Put a rock for a million years.
[12:33]It really doesn't transform into something else.
[12:34]It doesn't really evolve into something else.
[12:38]Whereas something that has life is impacted by its environment.
[12:42]It adapts.
[12:44]It changes.
[12:46]At this very basic level, there is no doubt that living beings
[12:50]are impacted by the environment and that there is some adaptation.
[12:55]Now when we examine evolution from a religious perspective, there are many
[13:04]today especially atheists who consider evolution as ammunition in their hands to
[13:09]negate the role of religion and to negate the role of a
[13:11]creator and this is a major fallacy that they commit.
[13:16]We say fine let's say there is conclusive evidence for evolution.
[13:21]How does that negate the exist the the how does that negate
[13:27]the existence of a creator of an intelligent designer?
[13:30]Because the more you study evolution, my dear brothers and sisters, the
[13:36]more you will come to realize how complex of a process it
[13:41]is and the more you see the complexity in evolution, the more
[13:46]you see the signs of a creator who gave you this system.
[13:52]See, in the end, evolution needs a system.
[13:53]It's a mechanism.
[13:55]It needs a designer to create a system we call evolution.
[14:02]It cannot exist on itself.
[14:03]One common example that they share is the lottery.
[14:06]Haven't you heard them?
[14:07]Well, it's very unlikely for somebody to win the lotto, but you
[14:15]can eventually it does happen, right?
[14:16]through the laws of probability, randomly someone eventually wins the lottery out
[14:21]of millions and millions of people.
[14:23]This kind of analogy is very problematic.
[14:29]There's a big fallacy embedded here.
[14:30]Why?
[14:31]Yes, we do accept that when you have a lottery that's functional,
[14:35]the result of that lottery is random.
[14:38]It's governed by the law of probability probability.
[14:42]But who designed that lottery?
[14:43]The lottery is a very complex system.
[14:46]There are intelligent designers who designed it.
[14:48]Yes, the outcome can look random based on the laws of probability.
[14:54]But the lottery was designed by intelligent beings.
[14:58]When you look at evolution, think of a lottery.
[15:00]Maybe when you see the history of organisms, it looks like there
[15:06]is some randomness involved.
[15:08]Certain creatures becoming extinct, some of them evolving, suddenly there's a mutation.
[15:13]It might seem random, but what about the system that has given
[15:20]life the capacity to evolve?
[15:21]That system, my dear brothers and sisters, is a very complex system.
[15:25]And that in itself proves there must be a designer.
[15:30]Evolution cannot exist without a design.
[15:34]It's a mechanism that allows a living creature to evolve.
[15:38]Life has the capacity to evolve.
[15:43]Where did this capacity come from?
[15:44]Who gave it this design?
[15:45]And that's Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
[15:48]Whether we say God directly created all the species or there was
[15:54]a complex system that led to all these species, we cannot negate
[15:58]the existence of an intelligent designer whom we call Allah or God
[16:03]or anything else.
[16:04]But you see many atheists, they will try to use evolution to
[16:09]negate the existence of God.
[16:10]By the way, Darwin himself was not an atheist.
[16:13]Initially, he did believe in God.
[16:15]Later in life, it seems he got confused whether God existed.
[16:21]So, he became an agnostic.
[16:22]But he never rejected God.
[16:25]He never said there God does not exist or I have evidence
[16:28]that God doesn't exist.
[16:31]He just said, "I don't know.
[16:32]Possibly yes, but I don't know." He at the end of his
[16:37]life apparently did not see evidence.
[16:38]So Darwin did not reject the existence of God.
[16:40]In fact, in a number of his passages, his works, his books,
[16:45]he does seem to accept the idea of having a designer for
[16:49]this system.
[16:49]So that's the first point, my dear brothers and sisters.
[16:54]Assuming we have conclusive evidence for evolution, in no way does it
[16:58]negate the existence of Allah subhana wa ta'ala.
[17:02]If anything, it gives you a window into the system of the
[17:05]almighty God.
[17:06]Because Allah is very clear in the Quran that he creates in
[17:09]stages.
[17:11]Why did Allah create the heavens and earths in six stages?
[17:16]Doesn't the Quran say if Allah wants something, he says be and
[17:22]it is.
[17:22]Allah is teaching us I have a complex system.
[17:24]I work in stages.
[17:28]My system involves many stages.
[17:30]And yes, there could be evolution in those stages.
[17:32]That's part of the system of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
[17:37]In this verse in verse 14, Allah subhana wa ta'ala states, "Allah
[17:48]has created you in stages." Allah is addressing us people.
[17:54]Look, look at the world around you.
[17:57]Look at the universe.
[17:57]Think I have created you in stages.
[18:00]There's a system.
[18:03]Go and explore this system.
[18:05]If anything, evolution demonstrates the intelligence of the designer.
[18:10]How can you, my dear brothers and sisters, create a system that
[18:13]gives you life and allows for life to evolve?
[18:17]Who can do that other than God?
[18:19]Think about this.
[18:21]Who can do this other than Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala?
[18:25]And we know this through artificial intelligence.
[18:28]Sometimes you create a computer and you tell it what to do.
[18:33]It just follows instructions.
[18:33]Doesn't move an iota from your instructions.
[18:37]That in itself shows design.
[18:39]But sometimes you give the program some level of artificial intelligence where
[18:44]the program itself starts to make decisions.
[18:47]I ask you my dear brothers and sisters, which is more complex?
[18:52]Which system requires a more carefully planned design?
[19:00]The one that does have some sort of artificial intelligence.
[19:04]It's much more complex.
[19:07]That is the first point when we discuss evolution.
[19:11]So there's nothing about evolution that contradicts religion, my dear brothers and
[19:14]sisters.
[19:15]In fact, the Holy Quran makes numerous references that the creation of
[19:20]God comes in stages.
[19:22]Secondly, what about the human being?
[19:24]Then what about Adam?
[19:27]When it comes to the creation of Adam, our scholars are split
[19:35]basically into two camps or groups.
[19:37]The vast majority of our scholars believe that Adam was created instantaneously.
[19:42]He did not have parents.
[19:45]Allah created him fully formed from clay.
[19:48]And the verses of the holy Quran seem to indicate that if
[19:51]we take them literally that's what they indicate that Allah created prophet
[19:56]Adam directly when he wanted to create a caiff to represent him
[20:00]on earth.
[20:02]However does this mean that Adam is the first human being?
[20:07]No.
[20:05]Adam is not the first human being or humanlike figure.
[20:09]The Quran makes references that before Adam there were other human-like creatures
[20:16]and so do our from the B peace be upon them.
[20:20]If you remember the conversation that Allah has with the angels Allah
[20:26]informed the angels I want to create a caiff on earth.
[20:30]What did they do?
[20:32]They objected.
[20:32]What was their objection?
[20:38]They said, "Oh Allah, how would you create a type of creation
[20:44]that's going to spread corruption and spill blood on earth?" Why did
[20:48]the angels say that?
[20:50]How did they know humans would do that?
[20:51]Because they had seen the creatures before Adam.
[20:56]Adam looked like them in his physical form.
[20:59]So they thought this is just a continuation of those creatures.
[21:02]And those were wild.
[21:05]They were barbaric.
[21:05]They used to kill one another.
[21:07]Why do that again?
[21:09]And how can this be your khalifa?
[21:11]Allah says, "No, I know what you don't know." See, even the
[21:13]angels hint that there was something before Adam that looked like him.
[21:19]Now, when you look at our hadith, it's fascinating.
[21:21]We have numerous hadith from the imams of B that before Adam,
[21:26]there were humanlike figures.
[21:29]One hadith states, "Before this Adam, there were 1,000 Adams." In another
[21:36]hadith from Albakis he says before you this current human race six
[21:45]forms of humans came six eras stages of human creation and you
[21:53]are the seventh and the last of them and you have been
[21:57]given the full intellect because this current human race has achieved the
[22:03]highest intellectual capacity.
[22:04]to know right from wrong and also to have intelligence.
[22:08]So the of are very clear that before us there were humans.
[22:14]So if today you find some people finding you know the fossils
[22:20]of a humanlike figure that predates to 2 million years ago, 3
[22:24]million years ago there's nothing about that that would contradict religion.
[22:28]In fact, religion is saying that before you human beings, there were
[22:32]humanlike figures.
[22:35]No doubt about that.
[22:36]Now, did Adam evolve from them or God directly created him?
[22:42]That's the point of discussion.
[22:44]These scholars say no.
[22:45]Adam is an exception.
[22:47]Even if we accept there is evolution, there's a common ancestor for
[22:50]all these other beings.
[22:53]Not Adam.
[22:52]Adam is an exception.
[22:55]It seems that the Quran says God created him directly.
[22:58]And this is something that Allah subhana wa ta'ala did because Adam
[23:03]was his representative on earth.
[23:04]But in no way does that mean that we reject evolution.
[23:08]When it comes to Adam only we say it seems from the
[23:14]Quran if we take the verses literally that Allah subhana wa ta'ala
[23:18]created him directly.
[23:18]And by the way, today if you look at the human race,
[23:22]because there were other humanlike figures like the Neanderthalss, other types of
[23:29]homo sapiens, but they all went extinct.
[23:32]If you look at the human race today, you find that we
[23:37]go back to an identical ancestor not too long ago.
[23:42]Because our hadith indicate that prophet Ibra, prophet Adam.
[23:46]He existed on earth somewhere 6 to 7,000 years ago.
[23:51]If you add up the numbers in our hadiths, it gives you
[23:56]a figure of about 7,000 years.
[23:58]Before him, there were humanlike figures.
[24:00]Yes, but they went extinct.
[24:03]So all these people came from Adam as the Quran seems to
[24:08]suggest.
[24:09]Yes, there is nothing in science that contradicts this.
[24:11]In fact, science confirms this.
[24:15]I want you to research something which is very important.
[24:17]It's called the identical ancestors point.
[24:21]Research about this.
[24:23]The identical ancestors point indicates that all humans today, all the people,
[24:32]7 billion people on earth today, they go back to the same
[24:35]parent, to the same ancestor about 3 to 5,000 years ago.
[24:41]And this is something that really surprised the scientists.
[24:44]They did not think that the identical ancestor was that close in
[24:51]history.
[24:51]They thought this was something like, you know, tens of thousands years
[24:55]before that.
[24:57]But all people today come from parents from people who existed 3
[25:02]to 5,000 years ago.
[25:02]And this is in line with our hadith that speaks about prophet
[25:08]NIH especially with the flood that many people were killed and only
[25:13]a few who were with him their progeny survived.
[25:15]Prophet N was about 5 to 6 thousand years ago and the
[25:21]identical ancestors point seems to confirm that all the humans that you
[25:25]see today they go back to that common identical ancestor.
[25:29]This is the first view that most scholars have.
[25:33]Even though evolution can be proven, we make an exception for prophet
[25:41]Adam.
[25:39]But we recognize that there were humans before him or humanlike figures
[25:45]before him.
[25:44]The second view which is not very common.
[25:47]There are some Muslim scholars who do believe no evolution could also
[25:51]impact the humans.
[25:53]Even human beings can have a common ancestor with other animals.
[25:58]And they have cited some verses in the Quran to say maybe
[26:03]this is a possibility.
[26:06]They have cited this very verse in Allah has created you in
[26:15]stages.
[26:16]And then verse 17 states Allah has caused you to grow from
[26:22]the earth.
[26:24]Just as the vegetation grows you.
[26:28]Allah speaking to humans.
[26:29]You've grown from the earth through a process.
[26:32]Some of these scholars are saying this could be a re a
[26:37]reference to evolution because clay is the birthplace of life of life.
[26:42]Science has confirmed this.
[26:44]Clay has all the ingredients necessary for life.
[26:47]And by the way, the composition of your body, the elements in
[26:50]your body are those same elements found in what?
[26:53]In clay.
[26:55]Now this could have happened over millions of years that Allah created
[26:59]clay and then the first life was formed from it.
[27:03]Then after millions of years Allah created the human being.
[27:06]This is possible.
[27:08]Like I said it's a minority of scholars who believe in that.
[27:10]But it nonetheless is a possibility.
[27:12]In any case my dear brothers and sisters whenever we talk about
[27:16]evolution we have to be very clear.
[27:19]There's nothing about evolution that disproves the existence of God.
[27:26]If anything, it shows the complexity of God's creation.
[27:29]One final note, my dear brothers and sisters, just like we have
[27:35]physical evolution in life, we have spiritual evolution as well.
[27:38]And the month of Ramadan is that time of the month where
[27:43]we progress and we evolve.
[27:45]You've all heard of the hadith from Im Ali Alisam in which
[27:50]he states if your two days are equal, your yesterday and your
[27:54]today are the same.
[27:56]You did not achieve any progress.
[27:57]You're a loser.
[28:00]You've lost.
[28:02]You have not achieved anything.
[28:03]Make it a point in the month of Ramadan to develop a
[28:06]program where every day, my dear brothers and sisters, you progress.
[28:14]We only have 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 years.
[28:15]That infinite life is determined by these years.
[28:19]Make sure that every day is better than the previous day.
[28:25]Every day, even though you take small steps, but there is a
[28:29]new spiritual achievement because the imam says if your two days are
[28:32]equal, then really that is a great loss.
[28:37]We ask Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala to bless us in this holy
[28:42]month of Ramadan.
[28:42]My dear brothers and sisters, we have about four or five minutes
[28:48]till the adan.
[28:46]So if you have any questions,
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