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Interfaith & Intrafaith Dialogue - Sayed Hossein Qazwini
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23/08/04
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[0:01]tonight we have a special guest from karbala so before we start
[0:09]our program we will be listening to some Quran recitation with the
[0:14]brother Ahmad after Salat Muhammad Muhammad foreign foreign [Music] [Music] [Laughter] [Music]
[1:38][Laughter] [Music] you are free [Music] [Music] [Music] meaning [Music] [Applause] [Music]
[2:41][Music] [Applause] [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] wanna do [Applause] foreign [Music]
[4:26]you know [Music] mmm energy foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] um [Music] [Music]
[6:18]I am tonight foreign [Music] [Music] Muhammad [Music] beautiful recitation ascent I'd
[7:14]like to start with few announcements uh quickly as you all know
[7:21]this Saturday at 5 PM we have the service day in the
[7:26]honor of Nam Hussein this is at the Plymouth Islamic cemetery and
[7:30]the details are on the Flyers to sign up and would like
[7:36]to all see you there at five o'clock inshallah also uh we
[7:41]have the Arvin art competition on August 27th submissions are underway uh
[7:49]all submissions have to be due by August 24.
[7:53]again the details are on the Flyers of how to sign up
[7:57]and and pay um also after a successful first year the city
[8:02]of knowledge weekend School the Sunday school is now open for registration
[8:07]as you all know last year we had or we were limited
[8:14]to only accept around 80 uh 80 kids or students this year
[8:21]we rented the place next door here down the um on the
[8:24]same complex the same parking lot and inshallah we should be able
[8:29]to get more students we as of this morning we are almost
[8:33]100 students so with all these seats are fed up quickly so
[8:37]please register your kids if you're planning to do this year the
[8:42]other good news is inshallah we are in a process of planning
[8:48]for an Arabic Saturday school as well so um we are still
[8:50]in a planning phase more details would come later but if you
[8:56]are if you want to volunteer as maybe a teacher or someone
[9:01]who can help building the structure of the school please make sure
[9:04]you see us and we'll give you more details one of the
[9:08]other programs also we're working on is tutoring uh with the beginning
[9:14]of the new uh school year we will have a program for
[9:18]our kids for tutoring different subjects and maybe two or three times
[9:24]a week we're working on the details we'll share it later but
[9:27]if you are interested in helping or being a tutor or in
[9:31]any subject you like please see us as well we appreciate your
[9:36]help um the other the final announcement we have another good news
[9:39]as you all may have seen right here we have reached the
[9:49]820 000 of the 950 000 goal to buy the land um
[9:57]uh you were very generous during Muharram a lot of you have
[10:05]donated or Ashura is over uh well it's not technically over because
[10:09]so if you did not get the chance during the days of
[10:15]Muharram you can always see us pledge and help us we want
[10:21]to reach our goal we have 130 000 left we have uh
[10:26]less than four weeks to close on the land so inshallah we'll
[10:29]make it happen inshallah will make it happen with your help and
[10:32]if you like to pledge or you're thinking to do it so
[10:36]and you need more details please see me or hash Hassan we
[10:40]should be able to help you okay and um now I'm honored
[10:46]to introduce our special guest as I said from karbala Syed Hassani
[10:50]said Hassani is a graduate of the UC Berkeley he is a
[10:57]student of najaf and karbala under high ranking Scholars he's a teacher
[11:02]of uh in karbala but I know it's one of the most
[11:11]complex and uh high-level subjects that they teach on cemeteries seminaries how's
[11:15]that so um he also authored numerous books and of course he's
[11:22]the uncle of our beloved and a brother of our beloved Muhammad
[11:25]as well another Branch from the sojara Mubarak of the kazuinis um
[11:31]without further Ado um now with Syed Hussein and the lecture titled
[11:37]Interfaith and intra-faith dialogue after Salat Muhammad assalamu alaikum alhamdulillah Allah [Music]
[12:43]foreign [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] Rahim [Music] voila yeah [Music]
[14:30]for the past several decades there have been serious attempts to engage
[14:38]in Interfaith dialogue between world religions Islam Christianity and Judaism the followers
[14:45]of these different faiths there have been serious attempts to engage in
[14:51]conversation to understand one another to know one another and we have
[14:59]seen World conferences workshops many events many visits of course we can
[15:06]categorize the visit of the Pope to the holy city of najef
[15:12]in 2021 when he visited this was a highlight this was a
[15:23]major event in the world of dialogue between world religions this was
[15:29]a very important event and we recently saw just three days ago
[15:34]that said sistanya also wrote a letter to the pope and the
[15:41]Vatican Islam my dear brothers and sisters encourages dialogue with other religions
[15:47]with world religions we see several verses on the Quran that begin
[15:55]say o the people of the book and even this concept itself
[16:02]people of the book that means we have something in common we
[16:04]have a book and you have a book we both are people
[16:09]of the book The Quran says engage them engage people of other
[16:15]religions in one verse Allah tells us to emphasize what we have
[16:24]in common not to emphasize what we differentiate or what we disagree
[16:32]upon but rather what we have in common let us come O
[16:38]the people of the book let us come to agree on something
[16:44]that we have in common Allah a common ground that we do
[16:53]not worship other than Allah and we do not perform and that
[17:04]we don't worship one another or we worship each other we worship
[17:12]some members of our communities Allah also tells us that those people
[17:16]of other faiths and religions if they do not fight you if
[17:20]they do not drive you out of your lens if they show
[17:24]no animosity towards you be good to them show kindness to them
[17:29]Allah those who don't fight you from other faiths be good to
[17:41]them show kindness to them be fair with them Allah also tells
[17:49]us not to argue with people of the book Christians Jews don't
[17:57]argue with them there was no reason to argue and start a
[18:00]quarrel on the contrary start with common ground tell them that we
[18:07]believe in the same God we believe in the same Heaven and
[18:12]the same hell and we believe in the day of judgment start
[18:13]with what with what you have in common Allah says unless there
[18:23]is some good in dial in argument with them fine otherwise don't
[18:29]argue as tell them that we believe in what was what is
[18:40]revealed to us and we believe what is revealed to you we
[18:44]believe in your prophets we believe in Jesus and Moses we believe
[18:48]in the in the Torah and the inji these are divinely revealed
[18:51]books now have they they've been tampered with or not this is
[18:56]a different discussion we believe they've been tampered with but the original
[19:01]Torah we accept it as a book of Revelation the original injil
[19:04]We believe it we accept it as a book of Revelation um
[19:14]we believe in the same God o Christians and Jews you don't
[19:18]have a god different from ours we may call him differently we
[19:25]may call him different names Jews call God Yahweh we call them
[19:30]Allah and so on and so forth we might have different names
[19:33]but the essence is in Islam my dear friends we learn respect
[19:42]for other faiths and religions this is what Islam teaches us and
[19:47]if you see a speaker a scholar that preaches hate and hatred
[19:52]and animosity towards people of other faiths and religions known that this
[19:57]person does not represent scripture does not represent the Quran one day
[20:02]was walking in the streets of kufa while he was the Khalifa
[20:08]of the time he was the ruler he saw I beggar in
[20:10]this roots of kufa he said mahada what is this he didn't
[20:16]ask manhatta who is this he asked what is this because the
[20:22]sight of a beggar begging during the days of Amir was something
[20:25]extraordinary during the time of Emil Momin there were no Beggars because
[20:29]there was no poverty so they told him this person is a
[20:42]Christian he's a Christian beggar he's become an old man and now
[20:46]he's begging thinking that this will reduce means anger as long as
[20:53]he's a Christian beggar it's okay I mean was very upset he
[20:57]said you have not done Justice to him when he was young
[21:07]you made use of him you made him go through hard labor
[21:13]now that he's old you leave him to beg a jerus have
[21:16]him a set salary a monthly salary from the Islamic treasury it
[21:23]didn't make a difference whether the beggar was a Muslim or a
[21:32]Christian was known for his famous saying people are of two kinds
[21:41]either your brethren in faith or your counterpart in humanity if he's
[21:45]not your brethren in faith he's a brother in humanity this is
[21:49]how we should see everyone else we don't divide people in two
[21:54]camps like one famous president once said you're either with us or
[21:58]against us no we don't have that in Islam we don't give
[22:01]people ultimatums and we tell them to choose you're either with us
[22:06]or against us we tell them you're either our brethren in faith
[22:09]or you're our brother in Humanity we're all Brothers in humanity Muhammad
[22:22]with the Christians and Jews in his community under his watch they
[22:28]were called were Christians and Jews that lived in the Muslim Nation
[22:33]and they enjoyed their rights and they enjoyed protection their rights were
[22:39]very similar to the rights of the Muslims yes they they would
[22:43]pay a different tax called jizya while Muslims paid zakat and homes
[22:48]but they enjoyed the rights he who hurts or assaults meaning a
[22:59]Christian and Jew whom we have an agreement with whom we have
[23:03]a bond with then I will face him on the day of
[23:07]judgment and I will stand to argue with him on the on
[23:12]the day of judgment one day Salaam foreign they have different laws
[23:36]from us in their faith a brother can marry a sister it's
[23:39]in their faith it's in their religion so this individual in the
[23:48]presence used a very negative word towards that zoroastrian how could he
[23:53]marry his sister or a relative stop stop um this man marries
[24:08]his mother or his sister this is unheard of their mom said
[24:13]in another narration this is their marriage this is their law there's
[24:19]no reason to make fun of them or ridicule them there's no
[24:25]reason to ridicule them for what they believe in and another Hadith
[24:31]mentioned in was sitting with a group of his companions a Jewish
[24:44]corpse a corpse of a Jewish individual passed by rasulullah stood foreign
[24:59]standing so they told him this person is Jewish why would you
[25:08]stand for this corpse while it belongs to a Jewish person is
[25:15]he not a human being so what is it if he's Jewish
[25:19]or a Christian he's a human being I respect him as a
[25:26]human this is what rasulullah will teach us one day passed by
[25:33]a rundown Church one of his companions he said this is a
[25:40]house in which Allah time and time again they perform shirk in
[25:47]this house you have it wrong this is a house that time
[25:55]and time again Allah was worshiped this is the house of worship
[25:58]the towns of worship whether it's a church or a synagogue or
[26:04]a mosque these are places of worship Islam respects these places of
[26:10]worship just because they worship differently from us it doesn't mean that
[26:14]this we we can tarnish this place or have disrespect for that
[26:18]place no it's a place of worship it's a house of God
[26:25]whether it's a church or a synagogue or a mosque this is
[26:27]our faith my dear friends this is our religion our religion teaches
[26:31]us respect for other religions and followers of other religions this great
[26:40]scholar who left us at a very early time if he passed
[26:45]away may Allah be pleased with him if he's still alive may
[26:48]he returned to us safely one day in Lebanon in in an
[26:56]area there's Christians they're Muslims maybe a heavily Muslim populated area there
[27:03]was an i and everyone in Lebanon knows this story there was
[27:07]a ice cream seller but no one buys from no one is
[27:13]buying from his ice cream why because he's Christian and Muslims believe
[27:19]that Christians aren't edges how can you buy ice cream how can
[27:22]you buy food so he saw that this person is selling ice
[27:25]cream but no one is buying from him so he stopped and
[27:29]he bought ice cream and he started eating in front of everyone
[27:33]and you know in in the etiquettes of hausa you don't do
[27:38]this you don't eat food let alone ice cream in the street
[27:42]but I said want to set a lesson that so what if
[27:46]he's a Christian that is selling ice cream what's the difference between
[27:49]a Muslim selling ice cream or a Christian selling ice cream and
[27:53]that person's business boomed from the day that Satan bought ice cream
[27:59]from him people went and they started buying ice cream from him
[28:01]in modern day my dear friends someone had to say to sistani
[28:08]when Dash entered Iraq and they occupied our lands in Iraq when
[28:11]half of the country fell in the hands of daesh I say
[28:17]this is standing the same way that he fought for Muslim blood
[28:20]he fought for Christian blood the same way that he would preach
[28:26]and speak and defend Muslim blood he defended Christian blood and easy
[28:31]the blood and yazidis they're not even from people of the book
[28:35]they're not people of the book but they are a religious faction
[28:37]and Iraq whom says fought for their rights and he defended them
[28:44]and we also pictures the same way when they liberated certain towns
[28:50]and cities they helped build churches they helped bring back bells to
[28:59]churches these are the teachings of Islam this is what Islam teaches
[29:02]us Muhammad there was a man by the name of was a
[29:15]pagan or he didn't even believe in God not that he was
[29:18]a pig he didn't even believe in God time and time again
[29:21]he would come to Imam and he would engage in dialogue he
[29:26]would engage in dialogue peacefully respectfully academically not once raise his voice
[29:37]against and tell him that what are you saying what you're saying
[29:42]is a blasphemous that I need to kill you or I need
[29:46]to do this I need no was an atheist an atheist and
[29:55]he and he kept on making arguments against Islam against Imam was
[30:01]always nice to him one day has a dialogue a conversation with
[30:09]one of the companions raised his voice he got angry calm down
[30:19]when I speak to your teacher he doesn't get angry with me
[30:23]but you get angry with me learn from your teacher learn from
[30:28]your teacher how to have patience how to have tolerance for other
[30:31]views why why would you get angry with me for having an
[30:38]academic conversation an academic dialogue some say it but what is the
[30:44]purpose of dialogue to sit with Christians Jews Interfaith events by the
[30:48]way I think some individuals believe that tonight was going to be
[30:53]an Interfaith event I'm sorry to disappoint you the topic is Interfaith
[30:58]but it wasn't a Interfaith event inshallah next time and I will
[31:01]get to that and I will get to that and I believe
[31:07]that Mecca Mecca under the guidance of my dear respected honorable nephewini
[31:12]can you can do a lot in Interfaith and this is what
[31:16]I'd like to introduce tonight what the name of McCann this beautiful
[31:20]Islamic Center there's a lot to do when it comes to Interfaith
[31:24]engagement and Interfaith Outreach and Interfaith dialogue what is the purpose my
[31:31]dear friends some say that the purpose of interfaith dialogue When We
[31:35]Gather at conferences when we visit churches or they visit our mosques
[31:39]is to convert one another they either convert US to Christianity or
[31:44]we convert them to Islam No no that is simply not the
[31:50]purpose of dialogue the purpose of dialogue when we have dialogue with
[31:53]other with other religions we are not giving up on our faiths
[31:59]and principles not one not one of our principles do we compromise
[32:03]we do not compromise on our faith on our belief on our
[32:06]principles and we are not apologetic what we believe in we strongly
[32:12]hold to our faith and our belief but what is the purpose
[32:16]of dialogue some say that today there's a hoax those who call
[32:21]for the dialogue of world religions the purpose is to form an
[32:31]abrahamic faith is to form one religion this is a hoax there's
[32:34]no such thing the purpose of interfaith dialogue is not to form
[32:41]One Faith No as a Muslim respect your faith as a Christian
[32:43]respect your faith as a Jew respect your faith the go the
[32:48]dot the purpose behind dialogue is one my dear friends to understand
[32:52]one another to understand one another and to work with one another
[32:55]today my dear friends we have common challenges there are challenges that
[33:04]all people of Faith face not just as Muslims but as Christians
[33:07]and Jews and we need to work together there's an African proverb
[33:14]that says if you want to walk fast if you want to
[33:20]fast walk alone but if you want a fact if you want
[33:24]to walk far walk together I'm sure you've tried that during autobahi
[33:27]you want to walk fast walk by yourself don't have anyone with
[33:33]you but if you want to walk far walk with others have
[33:35]a companion and you will walk far today my dear friends we
[33:39]need to walk far in this nation people of Faith people of
[33:46]religions we Face common challenges today whether you're a Muslim or a
[33:50]Christian or a Jew we have common challenges one youth are running
[33:55]away from religion places of worship are empty not just mosques even
[34:01]churches even synagogues places of worship are empty youth are running away
[34:07]from religion today there's a common challenge there's the gender issue at
[34:14]schools teaching our children at the age of six seven eight do
[34:16]you want to be a boy or do you want to be
[34:20]a girl come and choose your gender something that doesn't make sense
[34:27]Allah created us this human nature to understand who we are and
[34:31]what our identity is Allah created us as men and women these
[34:43]people who claim to follow science where's science where is science God
[34:51]created us as men and women males and females you want to
[34:53]change that there's a threat my dear friends there's a threat in
[35:02]addition to the propaganda from the lgbtq community that have that are
[35:10]trying day and night to indoctrinate our young children they're coming after
[35:16]our children my dear friends and they're not stopping they're going and
[35:21]I hide speed to come after my children and your children now
[35:27]this is a threat this is a common threat a common threat
[35:29]whether you're a Muslim or a Christian or a Jew this is
[35:34]a common threat we need to work together to overcome this threat
[35:39]we are here to stay my dear friends you know lately I've
[35:43]been hearing from a lot of people that we are going to
[35:47]pack our bags and leave leave where do you think you're going
[35:53]good luck with that Lebanon Afghanistan Iran where do you want to
[36:04]go I assure these families who say we will pack our bags
[36:07]and leave I give them a year or two years at most
[36:11]and they will be back we are here to stay my dear
[36:16]friends that's why we need to think of real solutions and these
[36:19]real solutions these real threats we can only face them if we
[36:22]wait if we work together with other peoples of faith and other
[36:27]religions because this is not just an Islamic threat this is a
[36:30]threat for all people of faith and we can work together we
[36:35]live in a country that is diverse there's Christians there's Jews there's
[36:41]a Buddhists there's Muslims there's Hindus this country is diverse we live
[36:46]in a diverse community and there's so much that we could do
[36:49]to work together some think that the notion of interfaith dialogue is
[37:03]a hoax and the only purpose is normalization with Israel that is
[37:08]the purpose why Muslims Christians and Jews should get together work at
[37:13]conferences the purpose is normalization with Israel absolutely not absolutely this is
[37:18]not the reason why we promote Interfaith the Quran promoted Interfaith 14th
[37:23]centuries ago the Quran says in many verses the verses begin oh
[37:32]the people of the book let's get together and discuss Common Ground
[37:37]what we have in common together it has nothing to do with
[37:40]normalization with Israel some say that Islam opposes Interfaith dialogue how because
[37:51]Islam considers Christians and Jews to be negis they are negis and
[37:56]hence we are meant to keep a distance keep your distance from
[37:59]Christians and Jews Islam put that barrier so that we do not
[38:05]engage in dialogue so that we don't mix we don't mingle with
[38:08]people of other faiths this is absolutely not true not true we
[38:13]have Scholars today many of our Scholars today they say people of
[38:16]the book are what Christians and Jews he was a brave much
[38:26]who came out and he said that the narrations that discuss the
[38:30]tahara the Purity and impurity of the people of the book it
[38:34]doesn't say that they are impure innately innately they are impure no
[38:40]no it's because they drink wine they drink alcohol they eat pork
[38:44]they are not just because of these things not because they are
[38:49]innately no they are not just innately in fact there are some
[38:55]jurists that are coming out today that are saying that all humans
[38:59]are pure all humans are pure I said well I had the
[39:06]honor of attending his upper level lessons in ninja for several weeks
[39:10]and he passed away less than two years ago um the last
[39:20]that he issued before his death was that all humans were pure
[39:25]all humans are pure whether you're a Muslim or a Christian or
[39:29]a Jew or even a Buddhist even a Hindu they're all pure
[39:33]we have such fat ones so there is no barrier that stands
[39:36]between us and dialogue what do we have to gain my dear
[39:43]friends what do we benefit from dialogue number one world peace imagine
[39:48]if Muslims Christians Jews Sunni Shia everyone sat and had peaceful dialogue
[39:54]to understand one another again not to convert one another when I
[39:58]have a dialogue with a question I don't want to convert him
[40:02]to Christianity nor do I want him to convert me do I
[40:05]want to convert him to Islam nor do I want him to
[40:08]convert me to Christianity no we want to understand one another and
[40:14]to work one another on common challenges World Peace look at all
[40:18]the terrorism that happens in the name of religion in the name
[40:22]of faith and in the name of religion we saw several years
[40:28]ago in Myanmar what happened with with Buddhist monks against the Muslims
[40:36]in that area hate done in the name of religion the hate
[40:41]that they had against people of other religions like Christians azitis and
[40:46]others and even Muslims themselves Muslims were the biggest victims to Al-Qaeda
[40:52]and Isis we can put an end to we can work together
[40:58]we can work together there's a saying in Arabic that says what
[41:05]you can't clap with one hand can you cap with can you
[41:10]clap with one hand unless you're very uh uh imaginative and creative
[41:16]that's another story otherwise I haven't seen anyone that can clap with
[41:19]one hand you need two hands you need two hands to clap
[41:24]you need a team to work together Interfaith dialogue helps us remove
[41:29]misconceptions regarding Islam my dear friends people are ignorant of Islam look
[41:35]at the burning of the Quran that happened in Sweden why why
[41:40]would anyone burn the Quran why what does Islam say that other
[41:48]books don't have to say there's an Islam preach tolerance and respect
[41:53]and love but it is misunderstood it is ignorance that drove that
[41:58]person and I personally I think that person was after popularity he
[42:02]wanted to become popular and he became popular he wanted Fame he
[42:07]became famous and today it's very simple today it's very simple if
[42:12]you see someone reading the Quran you don't become famous someone passing
[42:15]out a copy of the Quran you don't become famous you want
[42:20]to become famous set the Quran on fire and you become famous
[42:23]there was ignorance there's a lot of ignorance dialogue helps reduce ignorance
[42:30]it helps us understand one another know more about each other to
[42:34]recognize how much we have in common how much of the Quran
[42:38]and the Torah and the injil how much they have in common
[42:40]the stories the figures you know these Prophets is all of these
[42:50]prophets that are accepted by all all of these religions they accept
[42:54]them as prophets we accept them as prophets what's the difference except
[42:58]that we believe in Muhammad also my dear friends we are a
[43:13]minority in this country in this Society we want Islam to be
[43:16]recognized how do we do that if we don't engage in Interfaith
[43:20]dialogue how do we want our holidays like to be recognized and
[43:30]you know we saw tweets or messages from the president or from
[43:36]your local state representative the U.S Congress member that represents your area
[43:44]we saw certain tweets and this is what we need recognition of
[43:48]our faith recognition of ashola recognition of Imam recognition of our events
[43:54]on our holidays how do we do that we let others work
[43:58]others work or we go and we engage we do the work
[44:03]we engage with others we invite them to come to our Islamic
[44:07]centers what stops dialogue my dear friends what stops us from engaging
[44:16]in others there are several factors number one hate speech hate speech
[44:21]we condemn people to to hell there are some speakers that come
[44:27]behind the podium and they believe they are The Gatekeepers of Heaven
[44:32]and Hell they are the sheriffs someone gave them a badge by
[44:36]accident and appointed them as a sheriff to heaven and hell this
[44:39]group goes to heaven and that group will sell Christians go to
[44:42]hell Jews go to hell and they're the only person that go
[44:48]to heaven who appointed you who who appointed you as a gatekeeper
[44:52]to Heaven and Hell this hate rhetoric my dear friends this hate
[44:56]speech stops in the face of interfaith dialogue we need to put
[45:01]an end to hate speech the emphasis on differences no we need
[45:05]to learn from the Quran an emphasis on what we have in
[45:11]common not an emphasis on what divides us also ignorance my dear
[45:16]friends misinformation ignorance not reading about other schools of thought not reading
[45:21]about other religions ignorance will stop you from engaging in dialogue we
[45:25]followers of a debate we've been victims of ignorance in our countries
[45:33]back home we saw what others believed in US how they saw
[45:38]us how they viewed us they believe that we have another Quran
[45:40]we believe that made a mistake instead of going accidentally went to
[45:49]rasulullah they accuse us they accuse us of such accusations this stems
[45:54]from where ignorance misinformation lack of learning lack of reading insecurity is
[46:03]also another problem that no we should not engage with Christians and
[46:07]Jews what if what if we're affected what if our children are
[46:11]affected and they convert to Christianity they convert to Judaism no we
[46:15]do not feel insecure we have no insecurities we know our faith
[46:20]we know our religion we know that we know the truth but
[46:24]we'd like to engage with others now there are steps my dear
[46:31]friends there are steps in saying that Christians and Jews this was
[46:36]a step this was a step there have been many steps towards
[46:42]Interfaith dialogue conferences meetings and this is what I'd like to say
[46:48]tonight I I would like to invite this Islamic Center here in
[46:51]Mecca on this blessed Thursday night to officially start an Interfaith program
[46:57]and start with the local churches start with the local synagogues temples
[47:02]and with other mosques as well unfortunately there are some people that
[47:07]are willing to engage and enter Faith dialogue but they are not
[47:13]willing to engage in intra Faith what do we mean by intra
[47:15]Faith Interfaith meaning Muslim Christian Jewish Buddhist Hindu dialogue intra Faith with
[47:23]an a in traffic dialogue means what you see some people that
[47:29]are willing to to engage with Christians Jews and Buddhists and dialogue
[47:33]but they are not willing to engage with Shia not with Shia
[47:38]why Interfaith dialogue starts with intraphate dialogue if you can't sit with
[47:43]fellow Muslims with Sunni and Shah they can't sit together and discuss
[47:49]how do you expect others to listen to you Muhammad my dear
[48:00]friends amongst the purposes of interfaith dialogue is to introduce Imam Hussain
[48:11]but he is for all we should not keep him for ourselves
[48:17]we need to share him we need to introduce the world who
[48:22]is Imam Hussain what did he do what did he accomplish Imam
[48:26]Hussain was the Martyr of this nation we should not restrict him
[48:29]just for the Shia his majalis we need to introduce others during
[48:34]other times introduce others bring friends let us introduce the world to
[48:42]the message of Imam Hussain if people knew who Imam Hussain was
[48:45]they would flock to our faith and our school of thought but
[48:48]we haven't introduced them properly it's our shortcoming if Imam Hussain was
[48:55]a Christian you would see how Christians would sell the idea of
[48:58]Imam Hussain if Imam Hussain was Jewish you would see how Jews
[49:03]sell the idea of Imam but what have we done we have
[49:05]restricted him to our communities and our people only and that is
[49:11]our shortcoming towards Imam Hussain Imam Hussain is a universal message a
[49:16]message that needs to be delivered to everyone anyone who hears the
[49:19]message of Imam Hussain will fall in love whether you're a shiai
[49:24]or a Sunni a Christian or a Jew or even a Buddhist
[49:27]even a Hindu because the ideal that Imam Hussain died for was
[49:34]an ideal for Humanity all you have to be is a human
[49:38]to love what Imam did now let us come as we near
[49:46]the end of our lecture let us see what is happening to
[49:52]the Caravan of Imam Hussain seven days have passed seven very difficult
[49:57]days have passed after the martyrdom of Imam Hussain where is assay
[50:02]the zainab tonight where are the women where are their children on
[50:08]their way to kufa they're on their way to kufa in the
[50:12]middle of the desert the women were being paraded the children were
[50:19]being paraded and the heads of Imam Hussain and his companions were
[50:25]on Spears as they head towards kufa imams but they're all in
[50:34]the middle of the desert all of a sudden they notice that
[50:40]the Blessed head of Imam Hussein looks towards the desert his head
[50:45]churns on the spear and looks towards the desert and his eyes
[50:51]fixate on a position he said is everyone in the Caravan is
[50:59]everyone here do a head count because I see the eyes of
[51:05]my father it's fixated on a position this is very strange why
[51:11]they do a head count and they notice that one of the
[51:15]daughters of Imam Hussain is missing from the Caravan she's lost in
[51:19]the desert they go back and they found and they find the
[51:25]daughter the orphan of Imam Hussain and it's as if his sister
[51:31]zainab is complaining to her brother as she complains to her brother
[51:37]for taking care of his orphans what a difficult task it is
[52:02][Music] his head was a miracle the head of Imam the head
[52:18]of Imam Hussain would recite verses of Quran he would say the
[52:28]man in the Caravan one of the soldiers who would say your
[52:36]head is greater a greater Miracle than the people of the cave
[52:44]until they reach and I say the zainab enters the Caravan enters
[52:51]kufa and they come in the presence and his is in his
[52:58]court and he has the head of Imam Hussain displayed in front
[53:01]of him when zainab comes and she sees the head of Imam
[53:07]Hussain displayed in front of ebenezia and he speaks to zainab in
[53:11]a condescending manner did you see what Allah has done to you
[53:19]and done to your brother and your brothers here is I saw
[53:27]nothing but Beauty he tries to upset and say the Zayna but
[53:33]I say the zainab is that strong being that strong human beings
[53:36]and then they take the woman and children and they parade them
[53:42]in the streets of kufa cool from the city where I say
[53:45]the zainab would not leave her house during the day so that
[53:49]woman so that men would not see her during the day she
[53:52]would only leave at night today zainab is being paraded in broad
[53:57]daylight so that everyone can see her and her nieces see the
[54:04]children of Imam Hussain being paraded and the streets of cool foreign
[54:29]foreign to put the bodies to rest to bury the bodies of
[54:50]Imam Hussain and his companions Benny Assad a tribe A local tribe
[54:54]they come and they told them we will help you to bury
[55:01]the bodies they helped embody bury all of the bodies except the
[55:05]broken body of Imam Hussain and what was remaining of his body
[55:12]he had to collect the pieces the bits and pieces bring them
[55:17]together Imam he himself dug the grave of his father he put
[55:21]his father and his grave that headless body he put it with
[55:27]the broken ribs with the broken finger he put him on for
[55:30]saying in his grave as he was leaving Imam Zen and abedin
[55:36]removed the dust from his hands and he said [Music] my father
[55:47]as foreign with your face bring me bring me thy baby and
[56:22]put him on my chest what a chest what a broken chest
[56:25]that Imam Hussain had he wanted this small baby this small child
[56:32]to lie rests to rest on the chest of Imam for saying
[56:50]foreign foreign [Music] foreign 100 I don't get to hear it all
[58:17]the time so there you go come here the sky is one
[59:00]by one his companions died leaving him alone no what Muhammad thank
[59:39]you so much yes so do it uh okay so we um
[59:51]we have a Salah in few minutes inshaallah and we will have
[59:54]Dua Kumail right after that inshallah um
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