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[2:18]of God the most beneficent the most merciful all praise is due
[2:23]to the Lord master of all the worlds and peace and blessings
[2:25]be on All His prophets and especially the final Prophet The Prophet
[2:33]Muhammad sallam my respected brothers and sisters what is Sunni Islam what
[2:43]are the roots of Sunni Islam what is the origin of Sunni
[2:47]Islam what are the divisions within Sunni Islam indeed I find that
[2:56]many of us Shia do not know much about Sunni Islam and
[2:59]likewise many in the Sunni world do not know much about Shia
[3:05]Islam many times we make generalized statements sweeping statements against each other's
[3:12]Heritage and the reality is you'll find that these sweeping statements these
[3:16]stereotypes that we build and sometimes have inherited from our parents means
[3:21]that we do not necessarily give Justice to the beliefs of the
[3:28]Muslim World Muslims are nearly two billion in the world today we
[3:33]know normally whenever a person asks what are the sects of Islam
[3:37]normally you're told it is Sunni and Shia but what are the
[3:40]beliefs within the Sunni school when did they originate was the Sunni
[3:47]school there from the time of the holy prophet peace be upon
[3:49]man his family was it in the time of the cffs was
[3:53]it in the time of the OM Empire and the time of
[3:58]the Abbasid Empire the reality is that when you are ask anyone
[4:02]in the Sunni world when did the Sunni School actually begin and
[4:05]from where did it develop you'll find that there are differing answers
[4:09]there are differing theologies there are differing legal schools there are differing
[4:15]opinions sometimes you might ask somebody what are you and normally when
[4:20]they say that they are Sunni you say so that means you
[4:23]follow the sunah of the Prophet peace be upon his family say
[4:26]yes that's what I follow I follow the teachings of the Quran
[4:29]and the Sunnah of the the holy prophet peace be upon his
[4:31]family on the first level every Muslim claims that so what is
[4:35]it that differentiates you if I come to any Muslim in the
[4:37]world today you will see that they will say that the Quran
[4:41]is what I follow and alongside that I follow the Sunnah of
[4:44]the holy prophet peace be upon his family so in other words
[4:46]any Muslim in reality could be labeled Sunni if you go to
[4:50]any Muslim in the world today those are the two tenants that
[4:52]they hold on to but then if you were to ask them
[4:57]and to press them to develop for you an evolution of the
[5:02]Sunni school you'll find a plethora of ideas emerge you'll find many
[5:07]divisions you'll find a number of different credle texts I've got to
[5:14]give benefit to the Sunni World they have played it very well
[5:17]for 1,400 years because if you look at anybody in the Sunni
[5:20]world stereotyp you see anyone who's praying like this you would never
[5:24]imagine that behind this person comes a whole wave of different sects
[5:32]within the sect of Sunni Islam there are so many subdivisions within
[5:36]the sect of Sunni Islam there are so many theologies someone says
[5:40]no there's only one theology no even within the interpretation of what
[5:50]is the definition of God what is the position of the holy
[5:53]prophet peace be his family in relation to his theological position and
[5:59]the discussions concerning these pillars of the religion you'll see so many
[6:04]different viewpoints so many different opinions that you could have in one
[6:10]mosque in the Sunni World completely differing World Views on Theology and
[6:16]on law if I was to say to you now for example
[6:21]that the main theological schools in the Sunni world are represented by
[6:25]the books that I have in front of me over here I
[6:29]guarantee you on the first level that the majority of the Shia
[6:32]who are watching this will have not read any of these books
[6:38]and yet the Shia Community still finds it normal to make sweeping
[6:43]statements about a sect whose credal texts they've never studied if you
[6:48]look at the books that I have in front of me over
[6:51]here you will find that these books in front of me over
[6:53]here in reality discuss the Creed of what we know today as
[7:01]but within them there are so many differences that have Arisen if
[7:09]you look at the text in front of me over here I'm
[7:10]showing you the main thinkers who represent the of the Sunni World
[7:21]in front of me here on the far left I have if
[7:22]you come to me over here please you will see foundation of
[7:29]the Sunnah Imam Ahmed Binh a key figure in Theology and in
[7:33]law then I have over here one of the most important theological
[7:41]schools in the Sunni world and that is the midi School of
[7:45]Abu mans Al M majority of people who will say that they
[7:50]know Sunni Islam will have never heard of Abu mans Al M
[7:53]both in the Shia and in the Sunni ask anyone in the
[7:59]Shia to tell you about the roots of the Sunni school and
[8:01]how important Abu mansur m one of the most famous Scholars of
[8:11]Sunni theology as well as La a man from an area near
[8:14]Samar who was a scholar in and in following the Hani school
[8:22]so now what do I have I have a person who is
[8:27]M in Theology and hanafi in F someone says wait wait wait
[8:30]I thought they called Sunni no no Sunni Islam is not monolithic
[8:37]the number of subdivisions in Sunni Islam has been covered so well
[8:47]that when you look at them you think that they all agree
[8:52]on all the issues regarding their I here show you this book
[8:59]over here jel fad Hadad the m school why doesn't he just
[9:01]put the Sunni School simple just put why has he written the
[9:08]school from Abu to Al Abu hanifah we know and the mes
[9:16]lean towards the of abif but why doesn't this say from Abu
[9:24]it means that in the Sunni world one of the main theologian
[9:31]who has a school named after him is Abu mans Al who
[9:36]lived when he lived within a couple of hundred years of the
[9:38]holy prophet peace be upon him and his family then we have
[9:42]over here another of the main Sunni theological schools look at this
[9:48]book the differences between the ashis and the midis what's going on
[9:54]over who's ashari who's ashari the differences between the and the midis
[10:02]by IM sham Ahmed Kamal Pasha commentary by F translated byd and
[10:14]M what is the difference between an and a mni I thought
[10:21]everybody is the same you believe in you believe in Muhammad you
[10:24]believe in the Quran and you believe in the angels and you
[10:28]believe in the day of judgment so what's the need to to
[10:29]have was the need to have M then I come to another
[10:37]book over here this is interesting he decides he's not going to
[10:40]go into anything called or he goes into Islamic beliefs over here
[10:46]brief introduction to the of by so this person decides to put
[10:55]an text with a general name then we have another theological school
[11:01]if you look over here we have another one what's it called
[11:05]over here Islamic Creed ofb T now we lean towards what we
[11:14]now know as salais is the salafi Sunni are all these the
[11:28]same no of course not otherwise there wouldn't be a book what
[11:32]is the difference between an and a m I have another theological
[11:38]text by the way that the Sunni World developed which is different
[11:41]from the others that we've mentioned look over here um commentary on
[11:46]the Creed of IM byan T is a Creed in the Sunni
[11:55]World Abu jawi he was was a famous scholar of Egypt again
[12:02]living similar times to Al and comes a bit later than that
[12:08]time all of these have developed the are all the same then
[12:13]why do we need to have different schools of theology we already
[12:18]know in the Sunni world that sometimes when we hear somebody's called
[12:25]a Maliki Sunni if I meet someone who's a Maliki Sunni a
[12:32]Malik M or let's say a m and I might find someone
[12:35]who might be let's say a someone will say to me bro
[12:41]what's going on here they say that they're Sunni that's it one
[12:45]of the areas which I worked on so much in my own
[12:51]life was to try and understand the roots and the subdivisions of
[12:57]this sect called Sunni Islam Sun Islam what it's done very well
[13:03]it's always made you feel that you are some random sect and
[13:07]that Sunni Islam was there from day one if Sunni is Islam
[13:13]was clear as day from day one then why do I have
[13:16]Mr M coming forward with his opinion about Theology and with his
[13:21]and with his and salafi with his with his and with theirs
[13:25]the Sunni world you know like the Shia World majority majority of
[13:31]them have never read their credal texts Shia and Sunni by the
[13:34]way the Shia I have my own misgivings about the Shia who
[13:37]have not read their credle text and someone might turn around to
[13:40]me and say well in your school you have Z you have
[13:44]and you have for me when I am I don't necessarily believe
[13:50]in the salvation of the zi and the is I believe that
[14:00]when you call me that my path is the only correct path
[14:05]is this the same in the sun world the sun World rarely
[14:10]answers that there are salais who do not accept the mity they
[14:15]may be salais who are not pro there might be a salafi
[14:22]who's against does that mean does that mean when the prophet peace
[14:25]be upon him and his family spoke about Islam being divided into
[14:30]so many sects within the Sunni world how many sects are there
[14:37]what's been done for a number of years my dear brothers and
[14:42]sisters is that you've always thought that Islam is simply split into
[14:46]Sunni and Shia the Sunni world has very cleverly always bullied the
[14:50]Shia by saying to the Shia what's your origin when did your
[14:58]theology crystallize I want to ask them a question question maybe for
[15:01]the first time that a question has ever been asked and that
[15:04]is I want to ask you how did your theology crystallize because
[15:10]I'm confused over here I'm looking over here I'm seeing Mai I
[15:14]then look over here I'm seeing I look over here I see
[15:20]salafi I look over here I see I am now super confused
[15:27]because I thought Islam was a very simple religion but even within
[15:30]the majority of Muslims in the world today that is the Sunni
[15:32]world no doubt that there's at least 75% of the Sunni World
[15:37]they call themselves Sunni I want to ask them one question what
[15:40]is who is this abass who's AB for him to be the
[15:49]person who you follow who is for example who is the who
[15:54]are Thea what is their background and I want to play clip
[15:57]number one because I want to show you you just how clear
[16:03]it is that there are in the Sunni world who negate sunnis
[16:13]who don't necessarily agree with their theology please play clip number one
[16:19]where an interesting question is asked to in relation to as a
[16:28]general name and then it subdivisions please play clip number one uh
[16:33]this is [Music] from are and and out of and among the
[16:47]Deviant 72 sects in our subcontinent most of the people believe in
[16:52]ashar or mat Creed what our stand should be about them this
[17:01]is a long topic see when we say that we are this
[17:11]has two meanings either it means sunnis versus Shia and by this
[17:22]definition all those sufis Etc they will all considered to be because
[17:31]they're not sh but if we mean by those who have the
[17:40]same Creed of the Prophet The Companions the and the the favorite
[17:46]three generations in this case the mat and theh are definitely not
[17:53]part of because the late ashar who are contemporary now see the
[18:02]origin of is from abass who was a for 40 years Then
[18:08]followed the opinions of abdah abdah and then some Scholars say that
[18:20]he repented and rejected all of his previous Innovations and bad Creeds
[18:25]as he had written in his book Al I and he announced
[18:34]that he's going back to the of and specifically the of immed
[18:41]others say that he repented true but he could not get rid
[18:50]of every small thing that was clinging to him and attached to
[18:54]him so he still had some remains of kab in him now
[19:04]having said that the Contemporary they are in predestiny they have their
[19:19]belief of Ja and in IM they have the of and in
[19:28]the Allah's attributes they have and they clearly say that we do
[19:38]not approve of any of Allah's beautiful attributes except seven so they
[19:47]deny that Allah is upon his throne they deny that Allah is
[19:51]above his creation and they say things that are baseless when they
[19:56]say that Allah is not above he's not uh uh in this
[20:02]world he's not out of this world and many other things which
[20:06]clearly state that they are not from per se now having said
[20:15]that we have to make it clear that not everyone who says
[20:21]something of what the ashar say is considered to be a full
[20:28]full-fledged ashar because sometimes you may find a scholar like IB ha
[20:36]or a nawi who may say something that was said by the
[20:43]ashar but they don't adopt all of their opinions not even the
[20:47]majority of their opinions but this was a single error or a
[20:51]mistake we do not take such great Scholars out of and this
[21:02]is what clarified in his book when he said that just because
[21:09]ha or an nawi said something that might coincide with what thehar
[21:16]say this doesn't make them ashis similarly if we were hamis and
[21:25]we adopted one of the views of IM shafii would that make
[21:29]us shaf definitely not so I hope this answers your question I'm
[21:35]super confused honestly I'm so baffled I don't even know what's going
[21:39]on I thought that sunnd Islam was something super simple you know
[21:44]what I mean it's I'm not understanding what's happening all I heard
[21:47]in all that is M read and you're in a lot of
[21:51]trouble okay you're not part of because and I think the salafi
[21:56]school does not think you're part of um because you also don't
[22:01]believe that Allah subhana wa taala has a body and I'm going
[22:03]to come to Allah having a body because I think what showed
[22:08]very clearly is that the early group of Muslims the early group
[22:12]of Muslims were differing over so many theological issues for us Shia
[22:16]it's quite blatant what we believe in we just love IM Ali
[22:17]too much and it was so blatant yeah that's the definition of
[22:23]Shia either some Shia went Ali is God some Shia were like
[22:25]Ali is the greatest person after the prophet peace be upon his
[22:29]family and and that is shm in all honesty it's one way
[22:32]or the other between some some are top that's sh you can't
[22:40]what's going on early with the rest I ain't got a clue
[22:42]because early debates he pointed to something very interesting early debates were
[22:49]not no way early debates were what today we would call Sunni
[22:56]V Sunni does Allah have a body or no predestination versus Free
[23:01]Will was one of the major debates that was happening between members
[23:05]of the so-called what was happening with them what was going on
[23:19]with them what was going on with them was that you had
[23:21]people who were debating do we have complete predestination or complete Free
[23:24]Will are we in all our action predestined Allah has predestined everything
[23:32]or do we have free will or are we somewhere in the
[23:35]middle those were theological discussions that were happening he even mentioned is
[23:39]there a suspension of judgment on the companions of people were debating
[23:44]these things so in other words when a person says they're Sunni
[23:48]this whole idea that you know Sunni Islam is the one that
[23:53]was the pure Islam after rasol Allah died everybody followed Sunni Islam
[23:57]because rasol Allah said make sure you follow Sunni Islam Sunni Islam
[24:01]the man just showed us has got so many subdivisions I honestly
[24:04]got confused with all the names one minute I heard and then
[24:11]I heard next to him what is Islam will the real Sunni
[24:15]Islam please stand up many of the Shia they fell into this
[24:20]trap that Islam is very simple it is just Shia and Sunni
[24:27]no it's not shm is simple Z or all of them believe
[24:28]in the's Authority there are differences about who the authority goes to
[24:33]Sunni Islam and Shia Islam yes a person could say but they
[24:38]believe everybody believes in Allah our conception of Allah as we'll see
[24:41]in the coming nights and the Sunni conception of Allah and then
[24:44]I want to say the Sunni conception of Allah but even Sunni
[24:45]what conception of Allah the conception of Allah the E conception of
[24:52]Allah the literalist because with the E we have literalism with others
[24:56]like the midis we went towards rational thought and by the way
[24:59]why are all these people authorities for the Muslims for their names
[25:04]to have schools named after them did ever say one day I
[25:09]want you to be Ori did he say one day make sure
[25:14]you follow Abu or is that what said because I don't know
[25:18]why everybody's got these schools named after them a random Palestinian and
[25:22]a random Iraqi and a random Persian and a random all of
[25:26]them Egyptian and so on why do they have schools suddenly named
[25:28]after them who gave this license for a person to be known
[25:33]as a or a person to be known as a pulls himself
[25:38]out of the and he has a dream that guides him on
[25:41]the right path and the whole school called the theological school when
[25:47]you meet any Sunni in the world I want you to ask
[25:51]them one question what school of law do you follow and they
[25:54]might say to I'm hanfi say what school of thought do you
[25:59]follow I guarantee until your majority haven't got a clue about the
[26:02]main schools of thought that they follow the majority have never even
[26:06]heard of this Mai or yes the elite the scholars those who
[26:14]are well read but this man in one clip said my are
[26:18]not part of so where does that put someone who says wait
[26:22]I'm Sunni but I'm a ma Sunni but the Sala Sunni is
[26:27]saying that the ma Sunni is not part of sorry I thought
[26:31]this was the purest mhab to follow in Islam actually it's the
[26:36]most baffling one they haven't made up their minds about whether God
[26:41]has a body or not they haven't made up their minds about
[26:44]the prophets infallibility or not and when it comes to other areas
[26:49]such as predestination and Free Will the position of the Muslim sinner
[26:58]obedience to the ruler of the time and other areas of theology
[27:00]it's bewildering how many differences there are but someone might ask a
[27:06]question but they call themselves where does that come from when they
[27:11]say they are I might today actually give a Sunni his own
[27:15]theological lesson about his school because when a person says that they
[27:22]are known as following well where do they get this concept of
[27:29]from from where firstly the idea of Sunnah is mentioned where come
[27:37]with me over here let's open up some books today the idea
[27:41]that you follow the Sunnah which I as a sh believe in
[27:45]I've got no problem of course I have to follow the come
[27:48]with me over here my dear brother and sisters at home look
[27:54]with me over here please zoom into this sunb ma the sixth
[27:57]correct tradition of the prophetic Sunnah translated by Muhammad English Arabic text
[28:06]volume one where is this published my dear brothers and sisters in
[28:11]Beirut Lebanon the English Arabic text volume number one come with me
[28:16]to number 43 over here you'll see this very wonderful Hadith everybody
[28:20]please read this with me number 43 over here it is narrated
[28:28]on the authority as we can see over here my dear brothers
[28:30]and sisters on the authority of the messenger of Allah sallallahu alaih
[28:37]addressed us with a sermon so much impressive that because of which
[28:43]the eyes shed tears and the hearts became in all we said
[28:46]oh messenger of Allah verily this sermon is of such as is
[28:52]going to leave us what do you command us to do on
[28:54]that he said no doubt I've left you on a state of
[28:57]faith that is clear and pure as white ground whose night is
[29:02]as shining as the day and no one deviates from it after
[29:04]me but that he will be ruined no doubt you will see
[29:09]after my death a great dispute amongst my people clearly he trusted
[29:12]his companions a lot you will see a great dispute amongst the
[29:14]people which leads to their division and swerving from the right path
[29:19]so I advise you to follow my Sunnah and the Sunnah of
[29:27]the rightly guided well directed successes of me to which you should
[29:32]stick firmly and on which you should show constant patience so here
[29:38]in Arabic what does it what does it [Music] say follow my
[29:52]and the Sunnah of the cffs which cifs the M the rightly
[30:00]guided cffs after me in this Hadith he says to follow his
[30:03]Sunnah I believe in that that you must follow theah of and
[30:08]I also believe you must follow the Sunnah of the rightly guided
[30:14]after him which to me are who Muhammad here doesn't necessarily mention
[30:21]the names of who is after him but he says you follow
[30:26]me and you follow who the rightly guided successes after me therefore
[30:30]when someone is called the first part the first part of the
[30:37]name is from the idea of following the Sunnah so where's Jama
[30:42]from Jama means the community the majority the group come with me
[30:49]over here my dear brothers sisters to the sun of Abu da
[30:51]when we go to the sun of Abu daud all of you
[30:56]can see over here the English translation of Abu da compiled by
[31:03]IM Abu da volume Five from Hadith number 4351 to 5274 AI
[31:10]edited and referenced by translated by who by final review by who
[31:15]by Abu Khal USA let's go to the first area here first
[31:22]edition July 2008 supervised by ABD Malik [Music] muah lishers come with
[31:29]me over here to Hadith number 4,596 we said there is most
[31:36]people say okay means to so what's come with me over here
[31:41]Hadith number 4596 let's see what this Hadith says over here if
[31:46]you read this Hadith my dear brothers and sisters this Hadith it
[31:50]is telling us that we have to try our hardest to make
[31:56]sure that we follow the path of who the path of the
[32:02]holy prophet peace be upon him and his family and that we
[32:08]must follow also who follow the community come with me over here
[32:13]and see look over here page5 the book of the Sunnah okay
[32:19]if you come to Hadith number what Hadith 4596 the book of
[32:24]the Sunnah it was narrated that Abu Hur said the messenger of
[32:28]sahu Al said the Jews split into 71 or 72 sects and
[32:35]the Christians split into 71 or 72 sects and my umah will
[32:38]split into 73 sects he made it clear the um will split
[32:46]into 73 sects let's go to the next Hadith below Hadith 459
[32:52]interesting in the comments over here it says the book is named
[32:54]The Book of the Sunnah to indicate the Creed of the people
[32:58]of the Sunnah ornah okay that's why it's called that this is
[33:02]Abu writing a few hundred years after has died this Creed is
[33:09]called Sunnah because are unique amongst the groups I've seen how many
[33:14]million subdivisions emerge from them they are definitely unique is and that
[33:18]they take their beliefs from the Sunnah the belief from the Sunnah
[33:21]that what Allah has a body Allah has a body or no
[33:26]body our actions are predestined or free will we can use rationality
[33:30]in theology or no what is the dispute over obedience to the
[33:34]uh ruler prophets parents in Hell or no Prophet commits sins or
[33:38]no are prophets infallible or no says one thing says another says
[33:42]another say but everyone's going Jenna everyone this is all one pure
[33:49]sect yeah you see how in the literature they even make it
[33:51]seem like because they know you're not going to read further so
[33:56]say look this is but look in theith what does theith say
[33:59]Hadith over here says that muan stood up this is where one
[34:07]may argue the idea of in the title emerges with who listen
[34:13]to this mu stood up and he said because you know mua
[34:14]is as truthful as they come mashallah there is none with a
[34:19]tongue like the uncle of the Believers he's the only Uncle everybody
[34:21]else is not Uncle IB Omar is not an uncle Muhammad abak
[34:25]is not an uncle he's the only Uncle the messenger of Allah
[34:28]stood up amongst us and said those who came before you of
[34:32]the people of the book split into 72 sects and this umah
[34:39]will split into 73 sects 72 of which will be in the
[34:43]fire I don't care if you sayam you could still end up
[34:47]in the fire sorry to be Bleak Shah Ramadan it's night one
[34:49]night two in some of your places I don't mean to be
[34:52]Bleak but the prophet said it he said listen you're going to
[34:53]split there's only one going to uh heaven so make sure you
[34:57]get your priorities right and don't just inherit from your parents split
[35:01]into 72 sects and this umah will split into 73 sects 72
[35:05]of which will be in the fire and one in Paradise that
[35:12]is the J the main group of the Muslims today you will
[35:18]have a Sunni saying because Sunni Islam is the majority that means
[35:22]said hold on to the majority says I don't give away the
[35:25]majority if you're or you're not part of now I'm getting a
[35:30]bit baffled here because you got one side who are saying majority
[35:32]saying hold on to theama hence the title well but then you've
[35:46]got with so would would he enter ahead of a with a
[35:58]did are you guys going with me over here believe you me
[36:02]Shia Islam is so much easier Muhammad Al Muhammad chill relax I'm
[36:05]not going to deny there isn't the odd theological difference that is
[36:10]there within the Creed of a scholar but everybody know Shia marked
[36:15]by their obsessive love for Al Muhammad Islam I'm super confused here
[36:21]majority you've got to follow but the majority are split they're split
[36:25]into schools of Law and schools of thought the schools of thought
[36:27]are fighting each other theology the schools of law have more differences
[36:30]between the four schools Hani Malik sha and than they have between
[36:35]Sunni and Sh the title says hold on to the clever mu
[36:43]Allah mua is clever listen we're the majority here let's just do
[36:49]this if you ask those who are well read in the Sunni
[36:56]World they'll say noas Allah said and named I said n no
[37:04]he didn't they're like yes he did I said Baba the earliest
[37:07]groups in Islam who were not sh or okay were the the
[37:14]the when I say all of these these are all the theological
[37:20]early schools that were debating Islamic principles if we had held on
[37:23]to the man chosen on the day of we wouldn't have confusion
[37:26]but we decided that every has has has everybody has everybody has
[37:43]an opinion has a opinion Malik has a opinion suan has a
[37:48]opinion Hass has an opinion everybody in the Sunni world the most
[37:52]beautiful house is shown to you the cracks inside are unreal you'll
[37:59]find some who will say to you that no the prophet is
[38:05]the one who mentioned that you must be Sunni and they'll quote
[38:15]theologians who have shown of ay of the Quran where they say
[38:24]the prophet said this Ayah is about the sunnis theologians who lived
[38:30]a few hundred years after looked at a particular Ayah in the
[38:35]Quran and they said that this Ayah was revealed where said the
[38:50]followers of their faces radiate with whitness someone says which Ayah come
[38:54]and zoom in over here Surah 3 verse 106 of the Quran
[39:00]zoom in here this is what this is the T of who
[39:04]of IB cath The Abridged version Parts three four and five Bak
[39:09]from 253 to 147 volume two okay where is it where is
[39:17]the publication over here come with me over here a bridge by
[39:19]a group of Scholars under the supervision of July 2003 let's see
[39:28]when named that because if I believe as a that when the
[39:34]a was revealed in 9 when the Ayah was revealed from verse
[39:40]107 108 when the holy prophet peace be upon him his family
[39:42]Surah 98 verse number one verse 7 to8 when the holy prophet
[39:48]gave the of the Prophet said that the righteous and the Victorious
[39:54]on the day of judgment those who believe and do the Good
[39:56]Deeds are Ali and his sh so I believe sh was mentioned
[40:01]during the time of the Prophet when you ask the Sunni Sunni
[40:05]says no is what the prophet mentioned where come with me over
[40:09]here Surah 3 verse 106 in what does it say on the
[40:21]day of judgment when some faces will become white and some faces
[40:24]will become black in this here it says on the day of
[40:30]Resurrection this is when the faces of followers of the Sunnah and
[40:34]the will radiate with whiteness and the faces of followers of B
[40:40]and division will be darkened as has been reported by IB Abbas
[40:48]wait one second IB Abbas lived in the time of yes he
[40:52]did AB reports that this Ayah shows that named and ques to
[41:03]say wasn't mu didn't come 100 years even after mu said those
[41:13]whose faces they are glowing on the day of judgment whereas the
[41:18]people of B what later theologians and the Sunni world would mention
[41:24]this who else mentioned this ah nearly 10 years ago Muhammad hijab
[41:35]in his rebuttal and reputation of my lecture discussing the fact that
[41:42]there's no one Abu Bakr did not call himself Sunni Omar did
[41:44]not call himself Sunni did not call himself Sunni IM Ali didn't
[41:50]call himself Sunni this whole idea that was there from day one
[41:54]it wasn't there from day one Muhammad hijab tried to reply to
[42:02]me using this verse please play clip number two it's actually disgusting
[42:05]well I I I find it shocking that he made that claim
[42:07]because it shows that he hasn't even read these books it's so
[42:12]surprising that he's meant to be the face of Shia pism against
[42:14]the Sunni world and he hasn't even done the research like this
[42:18]is basic research now tell us something about done so we know
[42:21]and what did say by the way one is one of the
[42:26]was the first time was used by who according to yeah where
[42:31]he referenced a lot of sources early sources it's attributed todah who
[42:36]was who abdah he's a real if you like he's a real
[42:42]Hashim an actual Hashim from companion for the B what did he
[42:45]say he mentions it and mentions it is later but is early
[42:54]from said that according to thean whose faces will be bright on
[43:02]the day of judgment and those whose faces will be uh he
[43:08]us the word says says that IB Abbas is the one who
[43:16]has this narration we just showed he said IB Abbas as narrated
[43:22]by IB cath here here and they talk about the fact that
[43:32]I don't know what I'm talking about I'm meant to be the
[43:35]face of Shia pmics but I'm not sure about what I'm saying
[43:38]let's go back to this IB cath reference on this Ayah come
[43:45]back over here when you zoom in over here it says that
[43:48]this Ayah Surah 3: 106 on the day when some faces will
[43:52]become white some faces will become black on the day of Resurrection
[43:54]this is when the faces of the followers of the Sunnah and
[43:58]the will radiate with whiteness as has been reported by Abbas let's
[44:03]go to the bottom of the page look what's written footnote number
[44:08]one editors note although this statement is very popular if it is
[44:18]not fabricated it is amongst the weakest kinds of narrations all of
[44:25]its chains resting upon a narrator are well known for fabrication continue
[44:32]with the next clip next clip please let's see what they're saying
[44:41]I don't even think a knowledgeable person I think a student of
[44:44]with claims like that I have no respect for actually disgusting well
[44:48]I I I find it shocking that he made that claim because
[44:50]it shows that he hasn't even read these books it's so surprising
[44:53]that he's meant to be the face of Shia pism against the
[44:56]Sunni world and he hasn't even done the research like this is
[44:59]basic research he's he's not even meeting his own standard with his
[45:03]own exactly all of these narrators in the chain of this particular
[45:10]narration that says was from the time of the Prophet all of
[45:13]them are either known as being Liars or known as Fabricators as
[45:19]you could see the references over there even the person who's doing
[45:24]the editing of says although the statement is very popular if it
[45:27]is not fabricated it is amongst the weakest kinds of narrations let's
[45:31]go to the next clip please please continue playing Shani is recycling
[45:40]garbage raani recycles old sh just because some guy wrote them down
[45:45]without any sun we're going to accept it no bring the bring
[45:49]the conditions if they are not authentic and they are not authentic
[45:52]then shut up then shut up then shut up if they are
[45:57]not authentic and they are not authentic then shut the hell up
[46:00]don't don't start talking about things you don't know realize brothers and
[46:03]sisters in this time and age don't think just because there's social
[46:07]media you're going to get exposed you're going to get refuted do
[46:10]you think he worries about this he doesn't because he knows his
[46:12]followers will love him anyway no matter what they most people don't
[46:17]care most people are not for the they are not actual truth
[46:18]Seekers he's a m he's a j he just this time is
[46:23]over yes I know they're going to do say say the same
[46:25]with us are we're going to refute you as well maybe they're
[46:28]going to take parts from this video we don't care we believe
[46:30]that we are honest in what we do and I I do
[46:34]think you do care because you've been chasing me and running after
[46:38]me for 10 years asking for debates and calling non-stop channels and
[46:42]writing into me and so on and so forth so I certainly
[46:44]live rentree in the head for the last 10 years that you
[46:49]cannot deny I think actually for the last 20 years um but
[46:52]you go go and see the chain you know I I heard
[46:55]someone just there in the clip saying we don't want chains whose
[47:00]isnads are weak and not authentic shut the hell up and so
[47:03]on relax relax Al you admit is weak is known as a
[47:07]liar these are all in the chain of the so-called Hadith where
[47:13]the Prophet says follow and I thank this team the Shia defense
[47:17]team for bringing all of these things together because if you even
[47:22]take the next clip you'll see how one scholar in Iran 20
[47:26]years ago took this the was from the time of he took
[47:32]the narration and he ripped into pieces please play the next clip
[48:25]AB fore for for where' you get such narrations from his reply
[49:59]is I fabricate them to Incline people to the sect W I
[50:05]don't know if someone fears Allah subhana wa tala sometimes or no
[50:11]w we have certain narrators in Islamic history I don't know if
[50:16]they fear God or no who was in this chain which they
[50:22]were proudly saying is the chain that proves was there with says
[50:26]when he is asked where did you get these narrations from he
[50:31]says I fabricate them to Incline people to the sect you know
[50:34]when sometimes you do something Haram because you're like the reason that
[50:39]I am selling alcohol is to donate the money to Palestine this
[50:44]is why so when I have alcohol in my news agent or
[50:48]in my Supermarket the money is going to charity he says I
[50:53]fabricate them so that what so that people become Sunni how what
[50:57]does he answer Allah on the day of judgment therefore I'm still
[51:03]confused I'm confused now by a number of things what's a what's
[51:10]an what is a what's an what's a what's how did we
[51:16]end up with these as the main schools of thought and how
[51:19]many others were there that died off then I'm confused as well
[51:22]why Hani Maliki sha why weren there other schools law that were
[51:29]allowed I'm also confused about the combination of how you pick and
[51:34]choose which suits you now I'm uncertain that this word Sunni that
[51:37]used to be so simple now to me is completely baffling with
[51:41]all the different theological opinions I'm also confused when did someone term
[51:47]this as their identity at Sak who was Sunni Abu Bakr or
[51:57]was IM Ali Sunni let's go a step further when fought IM
[52:02]who was Sun's army or IM Ali's Army who was that day
[52:11]when mu fought IM Ali Who wasni mu's Army or or IM
[52:18]Ali's Army who was Sunni the were Sunni or what were they
[52:22]believing in were they were they someone says what's one of the
[52:27]main beliefs early wasman so whatman group of people who loved and
[52:34]hated Ali early Islam we have I'm not going to decide whether
[52:40]Ali or was right I suspend the Judgment when the companions fight
[52:46]each other and so on Sunni Islam's evolution is an unbelievable mishmash
[52:53]of reactionary ideas to situations by fallible men who Allah has never
[53:00]chosen I have anded and yours who are they just normal mids
[53:05]who give their own opinion this one this opinion this one his
[53:10]opinion this one his opinion this opinion someone might say to me
[53:16]what's the need then to know all these theologies I'll prove to
[53:20]you from tomorrow's episode just how many differences there are in their
[53:25]own literature concerning areas that we thought similar what's the classic line
[53:27]every Shia says Allah us and Sun We Believe same Allah We
[53:34]Believe same Prophet same Quran same sh Ramadan same small small small
[53:38]differences no no no no even the Sunni within their own tomorrow
[53:42]I'm going to show you in one particular discussion and that is
[53:47]how many rightly guided CS did Sunni Islam believe in was it
[53:52]three or was it four today we you know that it's four
[53:59]or was it five or was it more one school says one
[54:03]thing another says another but where their PR was brilliant was that
[54:07]they were all known as Sunni but when you go deep down
[54:11]you realize the divisions and the subdivisions are unbelievable join me tomorrow
[54:15]and we'll continue our discussion inshallah but we can't leave without she
[54:21]giving us one more clip if you don't mind please play the
[54:28]next clip with with his clip to tell us that just in
[54:31]case you thought all sunnis are the same he just wanted to
[54:36]make one more Point play what is the difference between it's almost
[54:44]the same are the Sal and this is why for example used
[54:53]to not like people calling themselves a salafi because he thought that
[54:59]this would be sort of sectarianism sectarianism or whatever they call it
[55:06]so it's like choosing a party while the best is this is
[55:13]a broader name and it reflects that the people they go back
[55:18]to the Sunnah of the Prophet Alam and to the JAMA of
[55:23]the Muslims represented by the three favorite generations of this um so
[55:30]in short are the people of the Sal and Allah knows best
[55:40]this the Sal and the three generations after the prophet and that's
[55:47]the ideology I don't know what M andar think of that I
[55:49]really am more confused than from what I began with I'll try
[55:53]and give you more answers tomorrow thank you for joining me bar
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