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When Should I Move Out of My Parents House? - Sayed Mohammad Baqer Qazwini | Muslim Youth Connection
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When Should I Move Out of My Parents House? | Sayed Mohammad Baqer Qazwini
Muslim Youth Connection
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[0:06]i begin in the name of the almighty god the compassionate the
[0:13]merciful the one who has created everything in utmost perfection and may
[0:18]the peace and blessings of the almighty god be upon his pure
[0:23]and beloved messenger the peak of his creation the symbol of humanity
[0:29]the holy prophet and his immaculate progeny of the bait peace be
[0:41]upon them especially the leader of our time the awaited savior may
[0:51]allah hasten his reappearance and make us all amongst the sincere and
[0:55]dedicated servants my dear brothers and sisters i sincerely welcome you to
[1:07]our program this evening as we discuss a very important question and
[1:12]that is when should we move out of our parents homes at
[1:19]one point in our lives we have to move right one is
[1:25]the prime time the optimal time for us to make that transition
[1:30]before we discuss this very important question i would like to remind
[1:36]myself and remind everyone that one of the greatest avenues and opportunities
[1:43]to achieve the mercy and the blessings and the reward of allah
[1:51]is to be around your parents our parents give us a huge
[2:00]window to worship allah to receive the blessings of allah subhanahu ta'ala
[2:05]in one narration in one hadith the holy prophet muhammad states when
[2:13]a person looks at his parents a look of mercy because we
[2:22]know we have different types of looks sometimes you could look at
[2:27]your parents and you're very upset with them angry at them you
[2:30]could be even threatening them the prophet says no a look of
[2:38]mercy if you look at them with mercy with compassion with love
[2:43]allah grants you the reward of an accepted hajj you all know
[2:56]the reward of the hajj what is greater than the hajj when
[3:01]it comes to rituals the prophet says just simply by looking at
[3:05]your parents out of mercy and compassion and love allah subhanahu ta'ala
[3:10]gives you the reward of not just any hajj not a hajj
[3:14]a hajj that's accepted the companions asked a follow-up question they told
[3:23]him ya rasul allah even if he looks at his parents 100
[3:27]times a day even if she looks at her parents 100 times
[3:31]a day that means you will get a hundred hajj for that
[3:38]a hundred pilgrimages the prophet said yes even more don't limit the
[3:44]mercy of allah look at your parents 200 times a day with
[3:49]mercy and compassion allah will grant you the reward of 200 pilgrimages
[3:53]and sometimes we wonder where is the mercy of allah subhanahu wa
[3:59]ta'ala our parents are one of the greatest doors and avenues to
[4:05]achieve the satisfaction of allah subhanahu ta'ala therefore spending time with them
[4:14]being around them serving them is a great blessing it's a great
[4:16]opportunity if looking at your parents with mercy has this immense reward
[4:22]imagine serving them imagine helping them being there for them what kind
[4:29]of reward does allah give us for that so if you're living
[4:35]with your parents you are truly blessed that's a great opportunity from
[4:40]allah parents are truly a source of compassion for us in times
[4:47]of difficulty your closest friend can let you down but usually parents
[4:53]don't let us down we can resort to them we can get
[4:59]good advice from them they truly care about us when they give
[5:05]us advice they're not looking for a personal agenda to fulfill now
[5:10]i also acknowledge not all parents are like that sure there are
[5:16]abusive parents there are toxic parents and unfortunately that's a difficult trial
[5:21]to deal with but for the most part being around our parents
[5:26]is one of the greatest opportunities that allah has given us to
[5:32]achieve mercy to achieve success many of us have successful parents spending
[5:38]time with them living with them teaches you how to be successful
[5:44]so there's no doubt my dear brothers and sisters that being with
[5:48]our parents living under one roof with them having shared activities sharing
[5:53]our time with them is a great blessing from allah so now
[5:58]let's examine when should that move happen now there are two dimensions
[6:05]to this question the first one is before marriage let's say when
[6:11]you're 18 up until the moment you get married what is our
[6:16]perspective on that when should you move and then we'll briefly talk
[6:19]about marriage once you get married do you have to move should
[6:25]you move should you not move what is the perspective on that
[6:28]so let's start with the first one a few days ago i
[6:35]was researching reasons why people teenagers leave their parents homes at 18
[6:40]you're told in this society you should leave your parents house we
[6:44]live in a culture that encourages 18 year olds who are now
[6:49]adults to leave their parents homes 18 19 20 get out of
[6:54]that house in fact there are some people who feel embarrassed if
[7:00]they don't because of peer pressure because of their friends because of
[7:06]their society i know some people who are maybe 20 22 they're
[7:09]graduating with their bachelor's degree and their friends ask them you still
[7:13]live with your parents or you plan on going back to your
[7:17]parents house that's kind of embarrassing so we live in a culture
[7:20]that encourages young adults to move out of their parents homes now
[7:29]i was interested to see online what kind of advice is given
[7:34]to these young adults why should you leave your parents homes i
[7:40]was reading some reasons some advice from reputable websites we're talking about
[7:46]websites that people go to seek advice from i would like to
[7:51]share with you some of those responses and let's have a discussion
[7:55]on them let's see if these are valid justified reasons or not
[7:58]so i will read them to you you'll see a lot of
[8:04]websites very popular platforms that will tell you things like 10 signs
[8:08]that it's time to move out of your parents house 16 reasons
[8:14]why you have to get out of your parents home many websites
[8:19]dedicate articles and discussions to this very important point so i will
[8:25]share with you some common reasons shared on these websites here's one
[8:30]of them you should move out of your parents home if you
[8:36]still have a curfew what do you say about that this is
[8:42]a real reason why a lot of people leave home so this
[8:47]is reality is this a justified reason to leave your parents home
[8:51]because you have a curfew it's 10 p.m that's it you have
[8:55]to be back in the house or they'll be on your back
[8:59]if you want to stay out later is this a justified reason
[9:02]to leave your parents home what do you say is there hesitation
[9:10]what do most of you say is that a justified reason why
[9:15]not can someone share with us why this is not a justified
[9:22]reason yes brother so there's a reason why parents have a curfew
[9:42]now the younger generation doesn't really get that it upsets them it
[9:49]disappoints them they think parents are being controlling so here's what i
[9:53]want to ask you next who here maybe 10 15 years ago
[9:59]when you were a teenager and you hated the fact that there
[10:03]was a curfew imposed on you by your parents but now you
[10:08]are a parent and you appreciate why your parents had a curfew
[10:13]anyone here in our crowd tonight who can share that experience do
[10:19]we have any parents with us here tonight raise your hands if
[10:22]you're a parent okay for those of you who are parents do
[10:29]you have a curfew for your children and what i mean by
[10:31]curfew not like a very strict curfew but look there's rules right
[10:35]you can't just come back home whenever you want show up at
[10:40]3 a.m no it's not that easy right we're talking about that
[10:44]kind of a curfew not a martial arts kind of a curfew
[10:49]do you have a curfew for your children do have you set
[10:53]guidelines on when they can come back yes sister okay they don't
[11:05]stay out late so in reality you do have a curfew it's
[11:10]an accepted understood curfew so you do have a curfew there because
[11:14]they already have embraced the idea that you don't you should not
[11:20]stay out late any other thoughts here any other parent who has
[11:26]a curfew yes brother why do you have a curfew for your
[11:29]children what's the point or what are the dangers out there plus
[12:01]for them so you appreciate the fact that she kept you away
[12:19]from certain bad friends yes thank you for sharing that so there
[12:24]are reasons why parents have curfews it doesn't mean they're always right
[12:28]sometimes maybe they're too strict but there's a reason when you become
[12:34]a parent you appreciate it you understand why it's not okay to
[12:38]come back late anytime you want that could lead to a dangerous
[12:48]path it's not that they don't trust you many of us when
[12:51]our parents have a curfew for us we think oh they don't
[12:53]trust me and we hate that it's not that your parents don't
[12:59]trust you they don't trust the society out there can you differentiate
[13:06]between these two you have to differentiate between these two and if
[13:10]you tell me no society is perfectly healthy functional out there i
[13:13]don't know where you're living which metaverse join me let's invite me
[13:20]let me ju let me join you on that meta verse which
[13:22]society do you live in if you think there are no dangers
[13:27]out there there are dangers out there your parents are concerned they
[13:30]want your best they want to protect you so it's not because
[13:32]they don't trust you they don't trust what's out there that's the
[13:39]problem so honestly if you're leaving your parents house just because there's
[13:42]a curfew and that's bothering you or this is one of the
[13:46]major reasons it's time to reconsider that understand there is a reason
[13:50]even if you have to give up some liberties it's for a
[13:52]good cause there are real dangers out there another interesting one that
[13:59]you always see coming up in this discussion is the following you
[14:02]don't have privacy or freedom to do what you want many people
[14:07]many youth they leave their parents home or they would like to
[14:12]leave their parents home because they don't have the privacy and the
[14:15]freedom to do what they want now my follow-up question is what
[14:20]kind of freedoms are we talking about here what is it that
[14:26]you want to do and your parents are getting in the way
[14:28]give me some examples this is a popular reason most people leave
[14:35]their parents home because they want the privacy and the freedom that
[14:38]they want with their parents around they can't really get that give
[14:44]me an example what kind of freedom do you want does your
[14:49]friend want does this teenager want that he can't get when parents
[14:54]are around give me an example of that so we'll try to
[14:56]see if that's justified or not yes brother drinking smoking yes many
[15:05]times people want to drink youngsters or smoke or try different drugs
[15:13]and they know they cannot do that at home it's going to
[15:15]create a problem so that's why they want to leave or sometimes
[15:20]they want to party bring friends over party all night long and
[15:25]you know with parents around you can't do that or you want
[15:29]to have those very late night saharas argyl till dev til fajr
[15:33]actually 10 minutes before federer they sleep and miss the prayer that's
[15:38]what ends up happening right and you know you can't do that
[15:44]in your house you can't do it frequently now honestly all these
[15:47]that have been mentioned are these good things for you to begin
[15:51]with drinking partying spending endless hours in those saharas does that really
[15:58]make you a better person does that make your future better does
[16:01]that bring you closer to allah so is that really a justified
[16:08]reason look at this one this is on a website that gives
[16:10]advice for girls it's a very reputable website see what it says
[16:15]over here with that being said it can be pretty awkward i'm
[16:20]deliberately reading it word for word it can be pretty awkward stumbling
[16:25]through your parents door at 4am half drunk with your makeup in
[16:32]shambles after a night of drinking and partying it's time to get
[16:35]out of your parents home look at the advice that's being given
[16:40]on a reputable website for girls so the justification is you want
[16:45]to party all night long and it's awkward to show up at
[16:47]your parents house at 4 00 am in that state so honestly
[16:53]if this is the main factor is this really justified let's truly
[17:00]reflect on that in fact if your parents are blocking you from
[17:05]anything that's destructive anything that's negative be thankful to allah that is
[17:12]good for you that's good for your future that's good for your
[17:14]spirituality so honestly this is not a justified reason just for you
[17:22]to have the freedom to do what you want you leave the
[17:27]house can you give me an example of a justified reason here
[17:30]where there is something that you want to do but because of
[17:35]your parents you can so obviously not the drinking partying stuff what's
[17:39]something positive that you really want to do but because of your
[17:47]parents you can yes okay that's one interesting reason you want to
[18:06]study but you have younger siblings who cause you distractions and commotion
[18:10]in the house so you can't really focus so she left the
[18:13]sister at age 19 in order to a to be able to
[18:18]focus on her studies is this a justified reason and were there
[18:23]any other alternatives study elsewhere okay now let me ask you for
[18:33]those of you who've gone through the college experience i know you
[18:36]have different colleges different amounts of commitment to studying on average on
[18:42]average how many hours do you really need to study a day
[18:45]on average i know you've got pre-med you've got you know those
[18:49]who want to go to into law school you've got some you
[18:52]know difficult subjects out there and then there's the easier ones on
[18:55]average how many hours realistically speaking do you need to study three
[19:03]to four i agree with that three to four i don't think
[19:08]most of college students study more than three to four hours a
[19:10]day we're talking about three to four continuous hours we're not talking
[19:15]about every 10 minutes you take a break and do something else
[19:18]and check your facebook and instagram and snapchat and tick tock right
[19:22]four hours now this would be an alternative if you need four
[19:29]hours of studying and there's no way you can do that in
[19:33]the house you can go outside the house you can go to
[19:37]a library you can study for four hours and then come back
[19:41]home you can go to a safe place and study you don't
[19:43]necessarily need to move out to get your four hours of study
[19:48]or three hours of studying again we're not judging that sister we
[19:50]don't know her circumstances but if that's your only concern before you
[19:55]take that step and make that decision see if there are alternatives
[19:59]if there are absolutely no alternatives then maybe we can say okay
[20:04]that's a justified reason you need to focus on your studies and
[20:06]you simply cannot at home so this is one very common reason
[20:13]that has been mentioned by many people i want my freedom i
[20:18]want my privacy here's another one you have a toxic relationship with
[20:24]your parents i know this is a sensitive one and a difficult
[20:31]one to address there are types of toxic parents there are some
[20:38]types of toxic parents who are not really toxic their kids accuse
[20:43]them of being toxic i've seen that the young boy or girl
[20:49]is not having the best behavior mom comes and tells them you
[20:55]know this is not right you're a toxic parent don't tell me
[20:57]what to do no sorry i don't accept that that's not a
[21:01]toxic period if your parents are telling you you know what you
[21:06]should do and they're pointing out your bad behavior they're not toxic
[21:11]parents they're doing their job if you call that toxic then all
[21:15]the police out there they're toxic too and all the judges out
[21:18]there they're toxic too and this younger generation honestly they quickly and
[21:27]loosely use this word my mom's toxic my dad is toxic and
[21:31]and sometimes we do have toxic parents but when i talk to
[21:35]some of these young adults or teenagers i realize you know what
[21:39]maybe you're the toxic one or maybe your parents are just doing
[21:43]their job and you don't like it you want to be free
[21:46]you want to do whatever you want and you don't want anyone
[21:48]to tell you anything that's the tick tock generation you want to
[21:52]do whatever you want do anything that's crazy anything that's cool nobody
[21:56]has the right to tell me this is right or wrong but
[22:01]then there are toxic parents there are abusive parents if the toxicity
[22:07]right of the parents is manageable you can learn to ignore it
[22:12]you can try to change that negative atmosphere in the house and
[22:18]believe me many times you can even parents who are illogical difficult
[22:21]to deal with toxic there are ways of dealing with them if
[22:26]you can manage it i would not recommend that you would leave
[22:31]the house but if it becomes unmanageable it's affecting your mental health
[22:38]or there's serious abuse involved yes at that point this would be
[22:41]a justified reason get some help and remember leaving house is not
[22:46]always an easy decision don't leave without a plan consult someone wise
[22:51]get professional help then plan what your next step would be but
[22:55]yes that would be a justified reason if they're very toxic it's
[23:00]affecting your mental health you're becoming dysfunctional or there is serious abuse
[23:06]involved at that point yes that would be a justified reason this
[23:09]could apply to some people but i don't think it applies to
[23:14]most people so this is a common reason that also some young
[23:18]adults have cited i think it's a little bit over exaggerated when
[23:22]they accuse their parents of being toxic but sometimes there is a
[23:27]merit to it here's another one there's a generational difference between the
[23:34]parents and the children and you find that you're always fighting with
[23:39]your parents over petty things so this website says if that's happening
[23:43]it's time to move on here's another interesting one you find that
[23:54]now parents still feel like they own you and they still feel
[23:59]like they own your belongings they still have ownership of your belongings
[24:03]this website says if that's the case it's time to move on
[24:10]or if your siblings are always sharing your items there's no respect
[24:13]for your ownership it's time to leave the house and here's a
[24:20]really bizarre one you buy your food and groceries and you find
[24:24]your parents or siblings eating from it this website says it may
[24:31]be a sign it's time to get your own apartment with your
[24:35]own fridge and pantry i know you're laughing but these are reputable
[24:40]websites where millions of young adults go to for advice i'm reading
[24:48]that i'm like you just overlooked 18 years your parents spent on
[24:54]to you spent on you they shared their food with you you
[24:59]gave them no privacy from when you were an infant until now
[25:02]right and now if your little sibling is eating from the food
[25:09]that you bought you have to leave the house this shows you
[25:14]that we're living in a very selfish self-centered individualistic society and this
[25:24]honestly goes against the beautiful teachings of islam these are your siblings
[25:30]they're not your enemies if they're sharing your items okay it could
[25:33]be annoying but that's okay that's fine where is the spirit of
[25:42]generosity be a leader in the house show others generosity so these
[25:47]are some main reasons why people have mentioned and honestly for for
[25:53]the most part these are not really valid reasons i don't recommend
[25:57]anyone to leave their parents homes just because of these reasons because
[26:01]you want your freedom and what you mean by freedom is what
[26:07]you want to you know stay up all night waste time and
[26:09]then sleep until 12 or 1 and you know parents are not
[26:12]okay with that or god forbid there are so many avenues to
[26:19]sins that can happen outside of the house make sure that your
[26:24]reason is justified and here's where i want your participation give me
[26:29]justified reasons why you should leave your parents house before you get
[26:33]married other than the toxic parents which we have addressed give me
[26:39]justified reasons yes yes sister in the back and you're responsible okay
[27:07]so one suggestion or scenario here is that you're financially stable you're
[27:11]working you can move on you're a decent person you have good
[27:15]luck you'll be safe and fine out there but you want to
[27:21]move on it's time for you to go to another place to
[27:26]move on to nate to take the next big step in your
[27:28]life so there's no problem in your house that you're running away
[27:34]from but you would like to learn how to be independent learn
[27:38]how to live on your own so this could be one reason
[27:43]why some people might leave their parents house what are the pros
[27:48]and cons so the pros are you like to become independent you
[27:52]want to see how you can manage your own apartment your own
[27:56]life pay the bills be responsible that gets you ready for marriage
[28:03]right so that could be one advantage of it what are some
[28:08]other advantages or some disadvantages of that yes brother so even if
[28:45]they're good decent people there's always that concern that they might be
[28:50]influenced by others yes that that would be a valid concern yes
[29:08]brother so you would say that's good actually go live on your
[29:42]own handle the pressures of society that gives you a lot of
[29:44]strength okay so that could be an advantage now let's look at
[29:51]some pros of still staying with your parents one advantage is that
[29:57]you save financially for your future when you live on your own
[30:03]you have to pay your bills you have to pay rent or
[30:05]mortgage or whatever it is you can save all that money by
[30:11]staying with your parents so that you can get married faster sooner
[30:14]i know some people they delay marriage for years and years and
[30:20]years because they can't afford it and one reason why they cannot
[30:23]afford it because right now they have financial obligations right they're just
[30:27]starting to work they're not that established but they still have to
[30:31]pay the rent they have to pay for their own food because
[30:35]they moved out of their parents homes so one advantage of staying
[30:41]with your parents is that you save financially you spend less and
[30:46]so you can save more when you want to get married that
[30:52]makes marriage more accessible so think about that advantage as well yes
[30:58]sister yes so at that age parents need your help they need
[31:29]you to be there right there is an obligation to pay them
[31:36]back that's a very valid point always remember my dear brothers and
[32:02]sisters how much your parents sacrificed for you now that when when
[32:05]they need you they're becoming frail old you suddenly leave them without
[32:11]really a valid reason many times that breaks them and it closes
[32:16]opportunity for you to serve allah subhana ta'ala by serving them too
[32:22]often we forget believe me totally we forget what we made our
[32:26]parents go through i remember once a mother brought her daughter and
[32:31]the mother was crying you know she she told me that my
[32:36]daughter yesterday got physical with me and she pulled my hair and
[32:41]she almost physically hurt me please talk to her 14 year old
[32:44]so i was wondering you know how to open the discussion so
[32:47]i asked her this question i told her what time do you
[32:52]what time do you sleep at night she said you know on
[32:53]average 11 12.
[32:55]i said okay imagine you've had a very long day you're fatigued
[33:00]you're tired at 12 a.m you go to bed you're now in
[33:05]your deep sleep and your comfortable bed 30 minutes after at 12
[33:08]30 somebody wakes you up how would you feel it's like well
[33:13]yeah i wouldn't like it i'll see what's going on i said
[33:18]okay you go back to sleep 30 minutes later at one again
[33:21]they wake you up now how would you feel she said i'd
[33:26]be agitated by now i told her if that happens to you
[33:29]15 times till 7 a.m every 30 minutes somebody wakes you up
[33:34]how would you feel she told me it would be the the
[33:39]worst night miserable night i told her after she admitted that this
[33:43]would be a miserable night i told her how many times did
[33:46]you do that to your mom when you were an infant when
[33:51]you were just born she lowered her head she felt ashamed sometimes
[33:56]you have to remind people we forget she felt ashamed i told
[34:01]her how many times did you do that to your mother i
[34:04]know right now you're going to tell me my mother's being illogical
[34:07]she's this she's that i just want you to remember for many
[34:11]many nights for months you did that to her just don't forget
[34:16]those days that softened her heart that changed her perspective she became
[34:21]tolerant and loving now towards her mother another time i was at
[34:28]a youth discussion and this one young man maybe 15 16.
[34:31]we were talking about difficulties with parents and he shared a very
[34:36]interesting one it tells you how sometimes this generation thinks of difficulties
[34:39]in life he said one of his frustrations is that when they're
[34:46]sitting in the family room or living room watching tv and they're
[34:50]watching a movie or something his father has trouble keeping up with
[34:55]what's being said especially if they're speaking english fast so he keeps
[35:01]pausing the movie or rewinding a few seconds so he can hear
[35:05]he told me say it i can't stand that anymore my dad
[35:10]ruins my movie experience every few minutes he's gotta stop it and
[35:14]pause it and we rage i looked at him i told him
[35:22]okay fair fair objection let me ask you a question when you
[35:24]were a little child what was your favorite cartoon i don't exactly
[35:30]remember what he said i think maybe he said tom and jerry
[35:33]i told him okay how many times did you force your parents
[35:38]to see the same old boring episode because you were in control
[35:44]you wanted to see it a hundred times and you forced them
[35:48]to see it with you a hundred times how many times did
[35:52]you do that did you do that to your dad now it's
[35:54]payback time it's okay if he pauses it and he ruins it
[36:00]many times you ruined what your parents wanted to see he wanted
[36:03]to see the news you kept crying and nagging and you wanted
[36:06]to see that favorite episode of tom and jerry it's okay he
[36:10]calmed down he felt embarrassed sometimes you just have to give these
[36:14]reminders my dear brothers and sisters so as the sister said it's
[36:19]time to pay back your parents don't just selfishly think of yourself
[36:24]when you're leaving even if you kind of have a semi legitimate
[36:29]reason but remember that you should be there for your parents too
[36:34]allah appreciates that more pay them back help them but at the
[36:39]same time you do have a valid point sometimes you want to
[36:43]establish yourself you want to have real life experience let me try
[36:45]let me see if i can manage my life there is some
[36:51]merit to that how about this reason is this justified you're smart
[36:56]mashaallah you got accepted to many good schools some of them are
[37:00]in the area some of them are out of state you got
[37:03]accepted into an ivy league you have to go to massachusetts you
[37:07]have to go to new york you have to go to some
[37:07]other state and your parents are having mixed feelings or they're not
[37:15]really okay with that especially i'll be honest because in our community
[37:21]we have two standards for boys and girls especially if you're a
[37:25]girl your parents are not going to be comfortable you going and
[37:30]studying abroad or to another state what do we do in these
[37:34]situations should you move out of your parents house for the next
[37:37]four or five years because you'd like to go to another school
[37:41]you have an opportunity here let's say you got accepted at um
[37:46]ann arbor great school but the university of chicago also gave you
[37:50]an offer or some other university so you have two options maybe
[37:57]that outside out of state school is a little bit better ranks
[38:01]a little bit higher so should you leave for this reason or
[38:05]no let's start with the sisters tell us if this is a
[38:12]good reason to leave or not yes why not you're going to
[38:17]a great school sometimes you might not be able to afford it
[38:34]or you will financially burden them because you know they're not going
[38:39]to let go of you they'll still spend on you but what's
[38:41]the problem in going to another state going to a great university
[38:44]what's what's the issue are there any concerns what are the concerns
[39:01]that's a very valid concern see there are some concerns only you
[39:07]as a parent you understand i'll be honest with you right now
[39:11]i as a parent the idea of sending one of my children
[39:13]to out of state to this university i don't know anyone there
[39:17]i don't know who his roommates are going to be what kind
[39:23]of environment is there right off the bat i'm concerned not because
[39:27]i'm irrational or illogical because the opportunities and the chances for danger
[39:35]are great at least in my area i kind of know what
[39:37]my children are up to even though some parents believe me they
[39:41]have no idea what their children are up to but at least
[39:45]my my radar is stronger in the area but once you go
[39:51]out of state we parents we have legitimate concerns where are you
[39:56]going what kind of atmosphere are you going to be we know
[39:58]that in some of these good schools academically they're great schools they
[40:02]score a plus morally what how do they score morally how do
[40:09]they score sometimes you'll find the greatest levels of immorality on college
[40:16]campuses and college dorms i'm not comfortable sending my kids blindly i
[40:20]need to know where are they going not because i don't trust
[40:23]them again what you don't trust me didn't you raise me dad
[40:28]didn't you raise me mom how come you don't trust me baby
[40:30]i trust you i don't trust that environment imagine two years ago
[40:38]in the first days of the pandemic where you know everyone was
[40:42]going crazy over it imagine if your parents tell you please don't
[40:47]go outside of the house for the next two weeks let's see
[40:49]what this virus is all about imagine you look at your parents
[40:54]you tell them what you don't trust me does that sound absurd
[41:00]why does it sound absurd you all laughed why does that sound
[41:06]absurd exactly it's not that they don't trust you they don't trust
[41:15]the virus right not you because they don't know when the virus
[41:18]is going to strike so sometimes we have moral viruses out there
[41:26]seriously and so as a parent i would be concerned sometimes sending
[41:29]my children to another place so understand that there are concerns it
[41:34]doesn't mean you cannot go it doesn't mean but just understand there
[41:40]are valid concerns yes sister you may not have that wisdom thank
[42:23]you for sharing that that is a valid concern many times when
[42:27]you come home you're coming to parents who have wisdom who have
[42:29]tried many of the things that you're going to try they have
[42:34]a lot of experience don't underestimate the experience that your parents have
[42:38]don't always try to reinvent the wheel they've got a lot of
[42:43]experience so now let's go back to this point of view going
[42:45]to another state for studying now from a fake illegal perspective as
[42:53]long as you are guaranteed a good moral environment you've chosen your
[42:58]roommate you know whom you're going to spend time with if you've
[43:03]guaranteed all of that it's not haram to leave your parents home
[43:07]and go to another state to study even for the sisters in
[43:13]the school of albeit we don't have a condition that other schools
[43:17]of thought have you will find in many sunni schools of thought
[43:21]they will tell you that a woman cannot travel without a mahram
[43:24]without like a blood relative or she cannot go and study abroad
[43:29]without a mahram they have that in their hadiths but in our
[43:36]school of thought as long as you're guaranteed that you will be
[43:42]safe you have a good moral environment over there your deen will
[43:45]be protected your morality will be protected it's not haram technically it's
[43:50]not haram you just have to weigh the pros and cons is
[43:55]it worth it to go to that new environment out there there
[44:00]might be dangers that i'm not aware of is it worth it
[44:03]for me to put myself at risk let's face it even at
[44:09]good schools not all college students are so committed to their academic
[44:12]schedule such that they're studying all day long and all night long
[44:16]sometimes they study good for three four days and then three days
[44:20]on the weekends they turn into animals i've seen it myself seriously
[44:24]it's all about partying on the weekends it may get to you
[44:30]my dear brothers and sisters i say this with all honesty as
[44:32]brotherly advice i know good people good people in our community good
[44:39]brothers and sisters very decent they came from the best families they
[44:43]went to another state for studying things took a different turn and
[44:51]it was unexpected they never had those bad intentions but you're just
[44:54]surrounded with this environment of immorality how much can you say no
[45:00]don't always trust yourself and say no any environment you put me
[45:05]i'm going to survive you never know you don't know that that's
[45:09]like telling yourself yeah i trust my immune system yeah allah put
[45:13]me in any you know situation where there are viruses i'll handle
[45:17]it no rational person would do that some things your immune system
[45:22]can handle some things it cannot and many times you don't know
[45:25]until you actually go through it i think sometimes we trust ourselves
[45:31]too much that's one of the windows of shaytan when you trust
[45:35]yourself too much believe in yourself be confident but also take measures
[45:41]to protect yourself so if you want to move to another state
[45:46]to another college you have to have a convincing reason there should
[45:51]be a compelling reason why you would you leave your family and
[45:57]go to that place yes if you're going to a college place
[45:58]where there's a muslim community there are good people there you have
[46:02]family there you kind of know the environment okay i would be
[46:10]okay with that that's fine but if you're going to this college
[46:12]town you don't know anyone over there you honestly don't know the
[46:17]environment there you don't know what type of people you will end
[46:21]up with i would hesitate i would not take that risk even
[46:24]if that school is a little bit better than the school i
[46:28]can get here because my moral existence and spiritual existence is more
[46:34]important than my academic career i'll say that with firmness and clarity
[46:39]i know some people criticize that to them the academics are the
[46:45]lord that you worship it's the most important thing if you have
[46:51]10 phds but you don't have morality what's the point what have
[46:54]you achieved what have you achieved in life you think those people
[46:59]that the quran condemns they were people who were uneducated or people
[47:06]who were dumb tyrants criminals corrupt people they're some of the smartest
[47:12]people on earth if you check their iq it's probably 200.
[47:15]that's why they're so effective intelligence itself does not guarantee success my
[47:21]dear brothers and sisters many times that intelligence can be used against
[47:25]the laws of allah subhanahu ta'ala against morality so i have my
[47:32]own hesitations and reservations on quickly going to another state just because
[47:37]you got accepted to a good school make sure the environment is
[47:44]safe a hundred percent make sure whom you're going to associate with
[47:47]make sure you have a plan for yourself where you're very busy
[47:52]away from all that negativity then it's something you can consider but
[47:56]i know some youth no that's it they want to leave their
[48:01]city they're looking for the opportunity to go to another state they
[48:05]want to get away from their community from their family why what
[48:09]are you getting away from again it goes back to our previous
[48:12]discussion what kind of freedoms are you looking for are these legitimate
[48:16]freedoms or not yes brother that they will go there and not
[48:55]come back they'll have their own life there okay now now to
[49:00]play the advocate of the other side why is that necessarily bad
[49:05]so the brother here who's a professor he's he deals with students
[49:10]he's like many times this happens you'll go to another state for
[49:13]an internship or for a school opportunity you end up staying out
[49:17]of state you start your life there and you won't really come
[49:21]back to your parents or to your hometown so one could say
[49:24]why is that bad okay let me go to another place and
[49:27]you know build my life there what's the problem what would be
[49:30]the concern in your opinion um you need a community yes that's
[50:23]that's a very interesting perspective that we have from a parent here
[50:26]who you know went to another state but then realized the importance
[50:32]of having a community here institutions programs community support system where you
[50:38]can rely on you know for the future of your children thank
[50:42]you for sharing that so my my advice is my dear brothers
[50:47]and sisters if you're going out of state for a short time
[50:50]a quick summer internship that lasts for a month and you really
[50:55]want those skills to broaden your horizon in the future and you're
[50:58]guaranteed it's a good environment by all means that's fine but for
[51:02]you to go for years and years to a completely new place
[51:07]and you cannot really guarantee what kind of environment you're going into
[51:13]i would not recommend that for most people there might be exceptions
[51:17]i acknowledge that but i don't recommend that for most people i've
[51:20]known many decent people believe me some of them i remember when
[51:23]i was growing up in california my grandfather there had established an
[51:27]islamic school and i really wanted to go to an islamic school
[51:30]so i spent a few years with him i had some of
[51:33]my best friends when they graduated from high school they went to
[51:37]another city for college the first thing happened six months later i
[51:42]noticed they went into drugs believe me decent decent you know children
[51:48]who were in the same environment i was in i was shocked
[51:52]within six months that happened yeah it's the college experience i wouldn't
[51:58]trust you know myself going to a dangerous environment like that i'll
[52:03]be very honest with you there must be a pressing reason why
[52:07]you would do you would go there yes right those grandparents who
[52:39]are overseas yeah that that is unfortunately a challenge you know some
[52:44]parents had to move due to war conditions or financial crises and
[52:47]you know the younger generation is away from their grandparents so create
[52:53]that atmosphere as much as you can over here that would be
[52:57]a great solution i would like to share with you before we
[53:00]move on quickly to the next point getting married and staying with
[53:05]your parents i would like to share with you what one brother
[53:09]told me about his experience staying with his parents before he got
[53:13]married there was the pressure on him to move when he went
[53:18]to college to completely move away from his parents i would like
[53:22]to read to you his exact words he says i would have
[53:27]missed out on some of the most life changing lessons and experiences
[53:31]i learned from my parents during my years living with them and
[53:35]going to college i was so much more mature than i was
[53:40]in middle school or high school and this period of being with
[53:43]them 18 to 24 allowed me to grow an extremely strong bond
[53:47]and make lifelong memories with my parents it truly prepared me for
[53:54]my career and my marital life and made me more mature and
[53:56]responsible had i moved out god knows where i would be and
[54:01]how i'd be thinking so having my parents around to keep me
[54:04]in line during those sensitive college years saved me from many potential
[54:11]mistakes there is a lot of barakah in staying with your parents
[54:15]my dear brothers and sisters the default stay with them seek the
[54:19]barakah from them help them be there for them there must be
[54:24]a pressing reason a compelling reason why you're leaving cannot be a
[54:29]selfish reason but truly a noble reason why you have to leave
[54:33]them so it's not haram to leave them right we don't say
[54:37]that islamically you have to be staying in your parents home till
[54:40]the rest of your lives no but seek the barakah from them
[54:46]believe me they will give you the best environment for most parents
[54:49]and families they will give you the best environment in the house
[54:52]there are some toxic environments we address that sometimes you need to
[54:55]move out of a toxic environment now my dear brothers and sisters
[55:01]the last point briefly so now you're getting married you definitely have
[55:06]to leave your parents home right in fact in our western society
[55:12]it's a complete embarrassment to stay with your parents and be married
[55:16]just doesn't work like that but let's briefly have a discussion i
[55:23]do acknowledge that when you get married that's it it's your new
[55:27]milestone it's a new chapter in your life you'd like to move
[55:31]on establish yourself grow with your spouse together so you need your
[55:38]privacy you need your own house that is a valid reason however
[55:43]my dear brothers and sisters my concern is don't stipulate it as
[55:48]a condition that only and only if i can afford a house
[55:53]i will leave i will get married there are some people who
[56:01]cannot afford to go to a new place but they have their
[56:03]privacy in their parents homes i know some people mashallah their parents
[56:08]have a beautiful house it's a pretty spacious house they can have
[56:11]a whole basement or a whole wing or a section what's wrong
[56:16]in starting your marital life and slowly in the next few years
[56:23]what's once you're more financially stable you can go into your own
[56:28]new place what's wrong with that why is this something we're not
[56:32]considering anymore this is not something that this generation is considering yes
[56:40]sister it can affect your marriage yes that's a valid concern if
[57:00]in the house there's a lot of interference from the in-laws from
[57:05]the parents and this is going to affect your marriage i don't
[57:08]recommend staying with your parents because that will make you better with
[57:12]your parents and with your spouse you don't want to put yourself
[57:16]in that situation but my dear brothers and sisters this isn't always
[57:21]the case with everyone there are some very understanding loving parents who
[57:28]give their newlywed son or daughter their privacy they don't really interfere
[57:34]they give them some general guidance there are such scenarios as well
[57:39]i think we have this assumption that all parents once we get
[57:42]married if we stay with them they're going to interfere and get
[57:44]involved and ruin our marriage that's not true some parents are like
[57:51]that some are not so you have to assess it case by
[57:56]case why do we have this rule that must be enforced on
[57:59]everyone that's it you cannot stay with your parents if you're married
[58:04]done no discussion close the file why it depends if your parents
[58:10]are the type who are going to get involved and interfere and
[58:13]that's going to affect your marriage okay i understand that that's a
[58:18]valid concern but if they're understanding and you can tell that you
[58:22]know during the engagement process they weren't really you know pushy on
[58:26]anything and they'll give you your privacy that's okay i know many
[58:31]people who started the first two three years in their parents homes
[58:35]alhamdulillah they have a very successful stable marriage it can work out
[58:39]so i agree for many people it may not work out but
[58:43]for some it can and my honest request from parents please don't
[58:50]interfere in the marriage of your children i say it with humbleness
[58:55]and respect give them guidance i know they're still your children give
[59:00]them general proper guidance do what you can but don't interfere many
[59:05]marriages have ended in this community because of parental interference i will
[59:12]say that that's it they've reached a stage in their life let
[59:16]them figure it out you don't have to figure out everything for
[59:19]them be creative effective find effective ways if you see something's wrong
[59:27]to correct it don't interfere that interference ruins their lives many good
[59:31]marriages were ruined because of parental interference so we shouldn't really interfere
[59:38]my dear brothers and sisters when our children get married give them
[59:41]proper guidance as long as they've chosen someone who's decent who's good
[59:45]leave the rest to allah subhanahu wa ta'ala we don't control our
[59:51]children some parents think they own and they control their children we
[59:55]don't we give them proper guidance leave the rest with allah subhanahu
[59:59]wa ta'ala so i do agree that in our generation given our
[60:02]culture for a lot of people it's difficult to stay with your
[60:08]parents when you get married but for some people this could be
[60:11]workable especially if you need a little bit more time to financially
[60:15]establish yourself and you want to get married that's fine islam encourages
[60:19]early marriage one reason why today marriage is being postponed is because
[60:26]of this factor many people cannot afford their place at 22 23
[60:32]24 25 26 you got to be 30 to afford your own
[60:36]place and pay all of your bills for a lot of people
[60:41]that is the case now if i'm postponing marriage to 30 just
[60:44]because of this factor we have a problem all these years you're
[60:49]missing out to create a family to live with a loved one
[60:55]so if staying in your parents house means you can get a
[61:01]few years you know you can get married a few years in
[61:04]advance and you know you can manage it your parents give you
[61:09]respect your privacy go for it i know society says no that's
[61:14]hype but in allah allah's eyes it's not my dear brothers and
[61:18]sisters so again it's a case-by-case basis any final questions thoughts yes
[61:25]sister okay so if one of your children got divorced and they
[61:45]have their own children is it okay for them the example given
[61:48]as a daughter can she live on her on her own with
[61:51]their children yes she can of course islamically there is no obligation
[61:56]for her to go and live with someone or to go back
[61:58]to her parents house she can live on her own now is
[62:03]that good or bad it depends on the situation you know sometimes
[62:08]going to her parents house for emotional psychological other types of support
[62:11]that that could be needed and sometimes not but islamically it's not
[62:17]obligatory for her to go to her parents house any final thoughts
[62:24]questions yes brother okay so we end with this question let's say
[62:39]your parents are the ones who are pushing you out they're telling
[62:44]you that's it you know we need to move on or for
[62:45]whatever reason you have to go and find your own place if
[62:49]your parents are asking you to leave i mean at that point
[62:54]you really don't have many options available right what i would do
[62:57]in that case i would find a safe space to move to
[63:03]make arrangements see people in the community that you trust see brothers
[63:07]that you trust and let them know that my parents are asking
[63:11]me to move out and i'm looking for a safe place to
[63:15]move out and there are many many good networks in our community
[63:19]so through nonprofit organizations through mosques youth groups approach them get to
[63:25]know the brothers and tell them that i would like to move
[63:30]out my parents you know they maybe one parent got remarried or
[63:33]whatever you know things happen that parents would ask you to move
[63:39]out so at that point you have no option but to move
[63:41]out but it's okay don't let that make you lose hope or
[63:44]give you anxiety there are good people out there in the community
[63:50]just make sure that you go to a safe environment you go
[63:53]to a safe place where there are people who are god-fearing and
[63:57]they uphold moral values so i would get involved in youth groups
[64:00]as a great starting point yes brother yes and we'll conclude with
[64:08]that allah foreign thank you for that and that's a beautiful concluding
[65:24]remark when you decide to move on let's say you've done your
[65:28]calculations and thoughts and pros and cons and you really feel that
[65:31]you should move out at the end of the day you should
[65:35]move out with the blessings of your parents with their satisfaction because
[65:39]displeasing parents hurting parents is a major sin if i move and
[65:47]my parents will be hurt it's a solid no from them and
[65:51]i could not convince them if you can try to convince them
[65:53]that's fine let them see your perspective if they're not on board
[66:00]with you they don't bless that move they're opposed to it and
[66:03]they will tell you that we're not pleased with that you will
[66:05]hurt us if you move honestly at that point you have to
[66:12]reconsider because hurting parents as one hadith that is being undutiful towards
[66:21]parents which is a major sin in the eyes of allah subhanahu
[66:25]ta'ala that if it involves displeasing them hurting them that becomes a
[66:33]major sin so even when you move when you decide to move
[66:35]make sure that they bless that yes there are some special circumstances
[66:42]as we've said if it's a toxic environment there's serious abuse and
[66:45]sometimes you have to get help and move that's a different situation
[66:48]but in other situations make sure that you convince your parents if
[66:54]you could may allah bless you if you couldn't i would not
[66:58]move again parents yes sometimes the parents tell you okay fine we
[67:04]prefer that you stay but if you want to go go in
[67:08]the end they've given you permission there's room to accept that scenario
[67:13]as well sometimes but if it's a solid no my dear brothers
[67:16]and sisters it's haram to hurt parents it's haram to hurt parents
[67:23]and you're all familiar with that hadith from the prophet salallahu where
[67:28]a young man came to him when the prophet was mobilizing muslim
[67:33]men to battlefield to defend medina to defend islam he was the
[67:41]only son that they had he came to the prophet he told
[67:45]them allah can i join you the prophet told them your parents
[67:48]are they okay with it he said no they prefer i stay
[67:53]with them the prophet told him for them to enjoy your company
[67:59]one night is better in the eyes of allah than you fighting
[68:02]on the battlefield just keep that in mind these are the words
[68:07]of the prophet salallahu for you to stay with them and they
[68:15]enjoy your company for one night that's better in the eyes of
[68:18]allah than you going and dying on the battlefield imagine the great
[68:22]honor and reward don't always follow what society is telling you or
[68:27]your counselor what your counselor is telling you also try to know
[68:33]what allah subhanahu ta'ala wants from you at the end of the
[68:35]day we live in this world for allah and we want to
[68:39]see what allah wants from us so thank you for that reminder
[68:42]my dear brothers and sisters i would like to thank you for
[68:45]your participation in our program tonight may allah bless you all and
[68:50]may allah protect you all and i ask you all my dear
[68:54]brothers and sisters before you leave to recite surat al-fatiha on the
[68:58]souls of the shuhada who were killed in peshawar today in pakistan
[69:04]nearly 60 our worshipers were killed in a masjid when a bomb
[69:09]was detonated during friday prayer as they were worshipping we ask allah
[69:14]to give their families patience to cope with this tragedy to bless
[69:17]their souls so let's end by reciting surat al-fatiha on behalf of
[69:22]their souls
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