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Night 10 - 'Imam Hussain (as) in Shia & Sunni Tradition' - Dr. Sayed Ammar Nakshawani
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[10:03]and [Music] before i begin tonight's modulus i would firstly like to
[11:48]thank the peterborough jamaat for their wonderful hospitality in these ten nights
[11:56]of majalis on this the night of ashura i ask allah subhanahu
[12:00]wa ta'ala that he allows them to continue to be blessed with
[12:06]his mercy the team headed by radwan have been a fantastic team
[12:13]and they've worked diligently and i'm not surprised that they've achieved the
[12:18]feat of having the most viewers in the shiri world in the
[12:22]past 10 nights their work has been outstanding and indeed it's been
[12:28]an honor to recite for them for their team for their wonderful
[12:35]community may allah bless them and bless the nohakans who we've recited
[12:40]with as well each and every one of them has given from
[12:43]amongst themselves a great amount of service throughout the years and although
[12:48]they may be of different levels and different qualities they sincerely have
[12:53]tried to give back to the message of rasulallah so on the
[12:59]first level i'd like to thank each and every one of them
[13:03]and i ask all of you to pray for them likewise on
[13:04]the second level i'd like to ask for forgiveness from all the
[13:10]viewers if there's been anything that has been said in these nights
[13:14]that may have offended any of them ultimately that is not our
[13:19]aim but rather our aim is to try and look at the
[13:24]historical and the contemporary inshallah may allah forgive me for my faults
[13:29]and forgive all of us in these nights in a few days
[13:46]time i will announce clearly that the ziara will be taking place
[13:51]insha'allah the announcement will be made on my instagram page we will
[13:56]be going for ziyarah on the arb of imam al-hussein al-islam with
[14:00]spiritual journeys as we do every year but inshaallah i will make
[14:06]the announcement with all the details in a few days time and
[14:09]hopefully we'll be able to visit the masumin and benefit from the
[14:16]blessings that surround them if we could please recite before we begin
[14:21]in honor of our beloved ibrahim foreign [Music] what are the muslim
[16:49]conceptions of imam al-hussein how is imam al-hussein viewed in both sunni
[17:00]tradition indeed for many this question requires a very simple answer because
[17:03]in the eyes of many they'll say every muslim in the world
[17:07]respects and loves and adores and admires imam al-hussein as then when
[17:14]we think of our own friends circle you'll always hear people be
[17:19]they sunni or be they shia saying that they love imam al-hussein
[17:24]their love may of course differ their love may have different reasons
[17:28]their love may be expressed in different ways but throughout our lives
[17:35]we'll always come across people who although their background may be a
[17:39]medhab that's different to our medha but you'll find that they have
[17:45]a soft spot for but the reality is that when a person
[17:50]looks at the 10th of muharram you'll find that the way people
[17:56]look at the 10th muharram highlights that not everybody necessarily has reverence
[18:00]or the same reverence for imam al-hussein alaihis-salam as each other for
[18:06]example tomorrow on ashura day the 10th of muharram you'll find one
[18:12]group of muslims who won't eat anything at all until sunset and
[18:18]then you'll find another group of muslims who may have a traditional
[18:25]dish that they may have shortly before maghrib for example so on
[18:29]the one hand you have a group of muslims who may fast
[18:31]the whole day and then you have another group of muslims who
[18:35]will be eating at certain points of the day then you'll have
[18:39]some muslims who for example will have weddings either tonight the night
[18:45]of ashura or for example they'll have weddings tomorrow i remember in
[18:52]south africa when i lectured there over 15 years ago that you
[18:55]could book a banquet hall in the muslim community with a reduction
[18:58]and a discount on the 10th of muharram so you have one
[19:02]group of people who will actually encourage each other that bro if
[19:07]you want to do for example you are or you want to
[19:09]do your nikah do it on the 10th then you'll have others
[19:13]who would never dream of having their wedding on the 10th of
[19:20]muharram you'll have some people who for example tomorrow on the 10th
[19:24]of muharram will be smiling throughout the day or will continue life
[19:30]as normal as if there's no change whatsoever they'll go into work
[19:34]happily businesses will be open and they will not even for a
[19:38]moment think of anything then you'll have others who will definitely take
[19:43]time off planned way in advance on the 10th then you'll have
[19:47]some who tomorrow on their lips will only be a discussion of
[19:52]moses alaihissalam and then you'll have others tomorrow on their lips will
[19:57]only be the discussion of imam al-hussein therefore there is a clear
[20:03]difference no doubt and sunni and shia tradition when it comes to
[20:09]imam al-hussein otherwise each and every one of us tomorrow will be
[20:14]mourning imam al-hussein for example or each and every one of us
[20:20]tomorrow will be for example fasting if we were all in agreement
[20:24]about imam al-hussein then we wouldn't be having completely opposite practices when
[20:30]your neighbor on the one side cries and your neighbor on the
[20:35]other side treats it like any other day and your neighbor on
[20:38]the one side is wearing complete black and your neighbor on the
[20:42]other side treats it as if they're going to a wedding clearly
[20:44]our understanding of imam al-hussein differs from one tradition to the other
[20:50]what we must also make clear is that even within the sects
[20:55]there are sub-sects as well we shouldn't generalize that all sunnis have
[21:01]this understanding of imam al-hussein and all shia have the same understanding
[21:05]of imam al-hussein because if you look for example in the sunni
[21:11]community there are sunni who may live in india members of the
[21:14]sunni community in pakistan members of the sunni community in jordan members
[21:18]of the sunni community in saudi arabia you'll find that even though
[21:23]they may all have the label of being sunni there is a
[21:27]clear contrast between the way some of them view imam al-hussein to
[21:31]others as and it's unfair for a person to say that all
[21:36]people belonging to that sect honor or revere or have a lack
[21:41]of reverence for imam and hussain in exactly the same way you
[21:45]may have two who come from the same sect but one might
[21:48]be brevi another might be diobandi one might be salafi another might
[21:53]be a sophie does that mean that we group and generalize all
[21:57]of their tradition on imam al-hussein the same way should we therefore
[22:03]say that all of them don't honor muharram all of them don't
[22:07]honor imam hussain all of them don't shed tears for imam hussain
[22:10]all of them don't respect imam was saying not at all because
[22:14]sometimes as shia look at the world only through our lens what
[22:19]we don't realize is that there are many who may not be
[22:24]shia but they have a profound love for imam al-hussein if you
[22:28]look for example there are hindus in the world who admire imam
[22:33]al-hussein in mumbai you will have people in the jewelers likewise in
[22:37]darussalam in the jewels likewise in parts of pakistan and jerusalem but
[22:43]you'll see them shedding so many tears for imam al-hussein when i
[22:49]look at that therefore what do i find i find that imam
[22:55]al-hussein the way he is viewed in tradition each and every group
[22:59]in islam has their own understanding of imam al-hussein what we cannot
[23:05]do is generalize about each of these groups what we need to
[23:09]do is to dissect why is it that each of these groups
[23:13]has a different imam al hussein alaihissalam because the reality is the
[23:17]spectrum is extremely wide from those who have extremely little respect for
[23:24]imam and hussain to those who absolutely admire imam al-hussein let us
[23:31]tonight look at imam al-hussein in and i'd like to do this
[23:40]in the following stages number one which group of people have absolutely
[23:46]no clue even how imam al-hussein is related to rasulullah and at
[23:50]the bare minimum why do they have any respect to imam al-hussein
[23:54]number two which group talks about the mistakes of imam al-hussein and
[24:01]how imam al-hussein is wrong and how there really shouldn't be poetry
[24:07]and tears for imam al-hussein but the reality is at most the
[24:14]10th of muharram is a day to remember nabi musa's victories number
[24:20]three which group within a sunnah say no bring the poetry let's
[24:26]write it about imam al-hussein shed your tears for imam al-hussein just
[24:34]and what is the basis of this sunni tradition of reverence for
[24:41]imam al-hussein number four how do the she have you imam al-hussein
[24:46]allah and how do they make clear that everything associated with imam
[24:52]al-hussein is associated with rasulallah but that there are certain things in
[24:59]our tradition which imam al-hussein for his sacrifice that karbala was given
[25:03]almighty blessings by allah and finally how do the tears for imam
[25:14]al-hussein whether you're sunni or highlight the softness of your heart that
[25:17]it can break for any human being even for a six-month-old thirsty
[25:24]baby let's examine this and dissect the topic in complete depth the
[25:27]first of the traditions on imam al-hussein within sunni thought are those
[25:33]in the sunni world who haven't got a clue about imam al-hussein
[25:37]alaihis salam's life at all some might be surprised to hear this
[25:42]some might be surprised that there are people in the muslim world
[25:46]within the sunni community who have not got a clue about imam
[25:53]al-hussein's biography yes you'll find that if you go to certain parts
[25:59]of the world and you ask some people they'll say to you
[26:03]when you ask them how is imam al-hussein or who is imam
[26:09]al-hussein related to some might turn around and even debate amongst themselves
[26:12]i saw this once in one of my journeys where i asked
[26:16]someone who is hasan and hussain between each other they had a
[26:25]debate are they the nephews of rasulullah or are they the grandsons
[26:29]of rasulallah those people should not represent necessarily sunni tradition but rather
[26:36]those people highlight to us that some curriculums be they at home
[26:41]or be they at school don't bring a mention of imam al-hussein
[26:45]i can guarantee you that there are many countries which are majority
[26:51]sunni when you have people in their 30s and their 40s who
[27:00]for example may come from different parts of sunni majority countries you
[27:04]sit with them and you say tell me about imam hussain who
[27:08]is he do not be surprised that's on the one hand you
[27:12]have those who will blatantly say to you that i think he's
[27:15]the grandson of he rasulallah be the nephew then you ask who's
[27:22]the mom even when you ask who's the mom you'll see them
[27:26]baffled amongst each other because those when they grow up in that
[27:29]community people don't want to talk about hasan and hussain with those
[27:33]people those are innocent on the one hand they're innocent why because
[27:39]on the one hand they're raised in a madarasa system that doesn't
[27:44]introduce kerbela at all to them there's no mention of karbala there's
[27:50]no mention of what happened to the family of rasulullah normally in
[27:55]religious tradition you would at least know the family of the prophet
[27:57]who came to you at the very least on the one hand
[28:02]you cannot blame them because they were raised but on the other
[28:05]hand when you have the internet these days there are no excuses
[28:09]for you that there's no excuses for you not to go online
[28:11]to find a website to find an article to find a book
[28:19]about imam al-hussein these people it's flabbergasting when you realize that you
[28:25]sit next to them and you realize what a university member because
[28:29]how did we become knowledgeable except member of hussain do you agree
[28:32]member al hussein is what kept us going throughout the year willada
[28:37]shahada kushali maulud university from the member coming to us there are
[28:43]many out there who don't even know the grandsons of rasulullah then
[28:49]someone says but amongst that first group they may know that they
[28:55]are the grandsons of rasulallah and that's the only reason they respect
[28:58]them nothing else what do i mean they respect them because of
[29:04]association not because of merit there are certain traditions within islam where
[29:08]you give people respect because of who they're related to not because
[29:14]of their own merit that first group either has people who don't
[29:19]even know who hassan and hussain are but these people call themselves
[29:25]muslim or they do and that's the only reason that they respect
[29:28]them because they're the grandchildren of rasulullah what do i mean amongst
[29:33]this first tradition you'll find those people blatantly saying to you i've
[29:37]heard the stories of hasan and hussain when they were children bro
[29:40]these were children not the whole of their life as in what
[29:45]are we talking about someone who remained a five-year-old the whole of
[29:48]his life we've all heard the stories of imam al-hussein when he
[29:53]was a child imam al-hussein live till the age of 57 your
[29:56]depiction of imam al-hussein why is it stuck at the age of
[30:00]five and six as in your depiction of imam al-hussein should try
[30:07]and ask how was imam in hussain in his 20s in his
[30:11]30s in his 40s in his 50s do you know how many
[30:14]of this first group haven't got a clue what age imam al-hussein
[30:20]alaihissalam died all they'll say to you is you know what i
[30:22]like hasan and hussain because they're the grandsons of rasulallah being related
[30:27]to a prophet doesn't mean you're going to heaven because there are
[30:31]many who are related to prophets who are burning in hell for
[30:39]example the wife of prophet i could easily say that i'll respect
[30:43]her because she's the wife of a prophet just because you're the
[30:46]wife of the prophet doesn't mean you can't end up being the
[30:48]biggest enemy for that prophet in the quran a wife like the
[30:53]wife of noor or the wife of lord were both married to
[30:56]a prophet if being married to a prophet meant you're going to
[31:02]heaven then why are those two burning in hell because the quran
[31:04]wanted to highlight to us don't respect somebody because of who they
[31:09]are related to rather respect somebody because of their merit their knowledge
[31:14]their wisdom their sincerity their god consciousness their dimension of their intellect
[31:21]and their emotion you therefore find that this first group of muslims
[31:26]it's very normal for them that this first group would have a
[31:31]wedding on the 10th of muharram why because if all i know
[31:35]about hussain is that he could be the nephew could be the
[31:38]grandson oh i respect him only because he's the grandson and my
[31:42]depiction of him is this young boy who climbed the back of
[31:45]his grandfather when he was in sujood or this young boy him
[31:50]and his brother told a man please tell us which one of
[31:54]us is doing our even if that is reliable or not if
[31:56]my only understanding of imam al-hussein is that then that understanding unfortunately
[32:03]is an insult to imam al-hussein that first group of tradition on
[32:07]imam al-hussein doesn't know imam al-hussein except for five six years of
[32:12]his life you tell them how was imam hussain after his childhood
[32:15]they wouldn't know therefore that first group is seen as a group
[32:19]which largely has no relationship with imam al-hussein for them many of
[32:24]them may not be that well read and are not even bothered
[32:29]to find out about what happened when the holy prophet peace be
[32:32]upon him his family died and 50 years after his death that's
[32:37]the first group but that first group at the very least has
[32:40]reverence for him because he's the grandson at least there's that reverence
[32:46]which is there they may not show any hate to imam al-hussein
[32:48]they'll never question imam al-hussein they have an innocence about them come
[32:52]to the second group if i told you there's a second group
[32:56]who are ready to question every decision of imam for saying within
[33:02]sunni tradition you'll turn around to me and say that's impossible even
[33:05]i thought that's impossible but if you want to go to a
[33:11]tradition within sunni thought you'll find that there's a tradition that looks
[33:14]him at imam al-hussein as someone who is mistaken as someone who
[33:20]is itchid was wrong and as someone who rebelled against the leader
[33:25]of his time because that second group also calls themselves muslim that
[33:30]second group you'd find within the salafi wahhabi tradition represented by many
[33:37]of the scholars of the salafi tradition you'll find that the second
[33:44]group are openly happy to tell their followers that yazid and imam
[33:48]al-hussein and their story imam al-hussein did it and he got it
[33:53]completely wrong and that imam al-hussein should never have rebelled against the
[34:01]leader of his time you find for example of them if you
[34:05]want to see the literature which is written on this area there
[34:09]is literature for example which books you'll find for example this book
[34:17]is a book this book was a reply to the shira on
[34:34]their opinion of the companions of the holy prophet peace be upon
[34:40]him and his family because when you see someone like shaykh al-fawzan
[34:43]when he is asked the question can we read al-hawas al-qawaslam is
[34:47]this a book which is okay for us to read because you
[34:52]know for many of our brothers any book which talks about the
[34:56]companions and their differences with one another is always a questionable book
[35:01]so you found that shaykh al-fawazan said no read this book this
[35:05]is a good book to read when salah fausan says a book
[35:09]is a good book to read when it discusses the companions that
[35:13]means he's saying that in reality this book is what our belief
[35:18]system is the book itself what does it say it says the
[35:22]killers of imam al-hussein did wheel they did their richter heart and
[35:26]they got it wrong that's it when a person does this ichty
[35:32]had that person who killed imam al-hussein he had his opinion and
[35:35]he messed up so simple as that if you end up beheading
[35:40]imam al-hussein or you end up for example butchering his family you've
[35:43]got your opinion about the world i've got mine and so these
[35:46]were people who were muslims but they messed up unfortunately and they
[35:52]messed up how did they mess up their itchy head was wrong
[35:56]but likewise him with two rewards and if his ichtihad as if
[36:16]imam al-hussein is just like any other scholar you know you have
[36:19]much the head which they had there are scholars had got it
[36:41]right allah listen to the wording had imam al-hussein got his ichthy
[36:46]heart correct then allah would have rewarded him and if imam al-hussein
[36:52]is hussain would be given one reward you get it right two
[37:04]rewards you get wrong one reward imam al-hussein was wrong he writes
[37:08]because imam al-hussein rebelled against the leader of his time question rebelling
[37:15]and against the leader of the time why is it wrong he
[37:22]says because firstly you've rebelled away from your tribe secondly when you
[37:27]rebel against the leader of your time you're causing chaos in society
[37:32]because if a leader is corrupt a leader is sinful ali does
[37:37]a drunkard you rebelling against such a person is causing chaos it's
[37:40]better to have a leader who's corrupt sinful drunkard as long as
[37:48]the muslims are not fighting each other let that leader remain at
[37:52]the helm you therefore found muhammad in his commentary he says that
[38:01]hussein is what hussein he's a much to head and by the
[38:05]way when i say all of this this is his opinion he's
[38:06]entitled to it remember what i said a few nights ago you
[38:10]could say anything you want about history but when i say things
[38:15]about history please don't call me sectarian you found then what does
[38:35]he say and i don't see a single reason why they make
[38:40]the whole of ashura and karbala seem great or important is that
[38:45]for what reason why do you make his martyrdom so important this
[38:49]is the second strand on the tradition of imam al-hussein within sunni
[38:56]thought he says why have they exaggerated this for example was assassinated
[39:01]and you had for example was assassinated was assassinated was assassinated was
[39:14]assassinated these are much more important than hussain ben ali those um
[39:19]as we know was assassinated by uthman was assassinated by who sometimes
[39:27]the opinions differ on this area there are a number of names
[39:32]suffice for us to say the people were not happy that benny
[39:34]umayyah came back to rule the religion of islam then you had
[39:39]imam was martyred by who assassinated by abdul rahman or abdul shaytan
[39:46]then you have hamza bin abdul muttalib he was killed by washi
[39:51]then you have jaffar was killed in the bachelor you found that
[39:57]muhammad says why do they make hussein's karbala so important why do
[40:02]they even exaggerate this thing there are many more important days to
[40:06]mourn than this event of karbala hussain was a much to hit
[40:11]and a much ahead if he gets something right allah gives him
[40:18]two rewards and if he gets something wrong allah gives him one
[40:21]reward for trying to make an effort you find therefore when he
[40:26]says that he says got it completely wrong and that's why this
[40:29]second school is a school that makes clear that hussein rebelled against
[40:36]the leader of his time yazid that's why when he looks at
[40:41]this what does ghazali say rasali says that hussain shouldn't have rebelled
[40:45]against the leader of his time he should have stayed away from
[40:50]rebelling and therefore when it comes to yazid we don't do not
[40:55]only yazid may not have many good things yazid may have bad
[41:02]things but we leave allah to of this school one of the
[41:09]main voices is who is ibn tamiya eben tamiya do you know
[41:13]where he takes the school this school exists by the way al-sheikh
[41:17]represent the school very clearly until today that imam al-hussein got it
[41:23]wrong imam rehashed not a prison against the khalif of his time
[41:25]do you know what eben tamiya of the second school says he
[41:28]says how do we not know that allah might forgive yazid allah
[41:33]wa ta'ala might forgive yazid because we know that allah forgives everything
[41:39]this is the words of ibn tamiya representing the second tradition of
[41:43]imam al-hussein in sunni allah says in the quran that we forgive
[41:48]everything except shirk therefore yazid was not known as a mushrik so
[41:55]how do you know that allah subhanahu wa ta'ala foreign allah might
[42:02]forgive yazid if yazid was at fault for what happened at karbala
[42:06]because this second school what does it also say yazid was not
[42:09]at kerbela the reality is yazid was in sham imam al-hussein got
[42:14]killed in kerbela so it's not yes he its fault at most
[42:18]it's ibn ziad's fault eben ziad made an error and when yazid
[42:24]found this out he put a member and he was in tears
[42:29]for what happened to imam hussain al-hussein these people are people who
[42:33]are muslim by the way but their opinion is what you should
[42:36]exonerate yazid for what yazid is claimed to have done to imam
[42:43]hussein yes it was in sham head was next to him yes
[42:53]it was so sad to see that imam al-hussein's head was being
[42:57]paraded everywhere does therefore eben tamiya say is that how do we
[43:02]not know that he may forgive yazid allah forgives everything except sheikh
[43:09]yes he did not die on shirk allah subhanahu wa ta'ala expiates
[43:15]our sins because of the trials that we go through and then
[43:20]thirdly what do they say that rasulallah said the soldiers who go
[43:28]to constantinople and conquer it they are forgiven of everything they do
[43:32]yazid was part of the army that went to constantinople therefore yazid
[43:38]will be forgiven by allah subhanahu wa ta'ala this is what he
[43:45]says eben makes it clear that why are you people against yazid
[43:51]do you not know how forgiving allah is allah forgives people and
[43:54]therefore allah subhanahu wa ta'ala may forgive yazid even further than that
[44:00]in his book tariq al-islam the history of islam he says imam
[44:09]al-hussein's uprising was what he says it in these words the his
[44:14]uprising and movement towards karbala was wrong meaning we don't believe this
[44:22]man is infallible this man is open to making mistakes hussein because
[44:26]he's the grandson of the holy prophet peace be upon his family
[44:29]doesn't mean that he's someone who is going to be infallible hussein
[44:35]is like any other human we say sayyid hussain may allah be
[44:41]pleased with him we ask allah to be pleased with him this
[44:46]same school pushes fast on ashura have your weddings on ashura is
[44:54]not a problem go to a q a if someone asks them
[44:57]a question of the second school they ask them that can we
[45:02]have our weddings on the day of ashura they say there is
[45:05]absolutely no problem on it right now right now in the uk
[45:09]there are weddings happening with this tradition without a care of anything
[45:14]to do with imam hussain right now by the way in london
[45:19]there's a wedding happening here there was a wedding i saw happening
[45:23]in other parts of the uk banquet halls are booked on ashura
[45:27]because this second school says this is a day of fasting they
[45:32]push it don't you see regular messages these days fast on ashura
[45:35]fast on ashura why because they say that in our traditions and
[45:41]again i always say it's your tradition i have to tolerate it
[45:43]i'm not here to push you to mind they say because moses
[45:47]was given victory with the children of israel against so therefore rasulullah
[45:53]fasted when on the ninth of muharram and on the 10th of
[46:01]muharram and therefore we push people to fast as well 9th and
[46:07]the 10th that's why many of our sunni brothers and sisters you'll
[46:12]find tomorrow are not just fasting they'll stamp it in your face
[46:17]that this is the hadith about fasting on ashura because of nabi
[46:25]musa this second tradition would destroy the grave of imam al-hussein if
[46:30]they had the chance because the salafi has no limits to what
[46:37]he'll do the salafi admires muhammad bin abdullah eben were the ones
[46:48]who destroyed karbala and the grave of imam al-hussein and massacred the
[46:54]people of karbala this second group for them hussain yazid all of
[46:58]this in reality there are people doing shirk and karbala they say
[47:03]therefore not only do you butcher the people and if you want
[47:07]to research further my brothers and sisters i want you to all
[47:09]research 1801 the massacre of the shia in kerabala next to the
[47:15]grave of imam hussain from the wahhabis of that time yes because
[47:20]muhammad was when 18th century go at the turn of the 19th
[47:27]century they destroyed them pillaged karbala they massac in the same way
[47:31]if so many of you will say why do you say this
[47:32]jannatul was it destroyed i ask you you've been hajin umrah is
[47:40]it destroyed by muslims or non-muslims not non-muslims non-muslims have great muslims
[47:47]destroyed in 1925 the grave of imam al-hassan the second group when
[47:55]they look at imam al-hussein if they had it their way they
[47:59]would have destroyed the grave of say the and have no problem
[48:06]with it at all the second group in their traditions of literature
[48:10]when they look at the biography of the narrators when they come
[48:14]to um do you know what they're right next to him killer
[48:17]of hussein ben ali second group is muslim imam al-hussein's killer in
[48:29]hadith studies you can go and research this um killer of hussein
[48:35]and i'm not surprised why because the ones who killed imam al-hussein's
[48:41]father they admire or the ones who fought i should say imam
[48:44]al-hussein's father they'll narrate from them has narrators who are known for
[48:52]their cursing of imam ali so why would i be surprised if
[48:54]i see they take narrations from those who cursed molar so why
[48:59]would i be surprised that they wouldn't have a level of respect
[49:03]for those who fought maula's sons the second group hate it when
[49:10]you bring up karbala safin jamal and all the way back why
[49:17]why do they say don't bring up kerbela there's no need why
[49:21]if we come to the conclusion yes he'd killed hussain then he
[49:27]has eats fathers in trouble because yazid's father's the one who puts
[49:34]him in and he has its father meaning who they say is
[49:41]the scribe of rasulallah i don't mind if you say he's described
[49:46]no problem i'll come to all of these in a second but
[49:49]yazid they don't want to open the door of yazid hussein very
[49:54]briefly they'll mention it here and there because one by one the
[49:59]dominoes will begin to form yazid hussain ali fatima and the rest
[50:08]is history the second group don't want you to cry even about
[50:12]imam even though you may see some of their preachers may shed
[50:15]some tears they will not encourage crying you don't need to mourn
[50:18]especially not excessive morning there is no poetry from the second group
[50:23]about imam al-hussein no poetry whatsoever therefore this second group within sunni
[50:30]tradition within the salafi tradition all those followers of muhammad imam al-hussein
[50:37]yazid's lord got it wrong imam al-hussein was also wrong and the
[50:42]rest is history not a big deal third group also within sunni
[50:47]tradition they're the opposite they love imam al-hussein this third group are
[50:53]from sunnah but for them is the light of rasulullah when i
[51:01]went to india and pakistan i saw a sunnah who loved imam
[51:08]al-hussein different in some cases to those in the middle east i
[51:12]must admit and i won't mention the countries of those in the
[51:14]middle east they're different too in india and pakistan they would write
[51:18]poems in honor of imam al-hussein but he highlights you don't need
[51:38]to be shiite to admire imam al-hussein what does he say he
[51:43]says faith is hussein defender of faith is hussein he did not
[51:55]give his head he did not give his hand to yazid he
[51:58]gave his head if you want to know the foundation and reality
[52:02]of la ilaha where does this third tradition come from those who
[52:15]have read the tafsir of the quran and found imam al-hussein throughout
[52:20]the quran when they saw the bismillah they said there are some
[52:29]who interpret it one way but we interpreted that rasulallah said i
[52:33]ask from you nothing except love for my family that's all i
[52:39]ask this third group they look at the ayah of us it's
[52:41]a sunni group but look at their love for imam hussain complete
[52:45]opposite to the salafi you may have sufi salafi you may have
[52:51]a sunnah different from salafi wahhabi this third group said is [Applause]
[53:05]this third group what do they say they say that when you
[53:09]look in the quran on the verse of mubarak bismillah hussain this
[53:42]third group what do they say how many hadiths do we have
[53:45]about imam al-hussein they say look at all the hadiths does not
[53:53]rasulullah say you see the salafis interestingly when they bring up this
[54:04]hadith the second group when they bring this up you know they
[54:07]say they're like yeah the hadith is there the hadith is hasan
[54:10]it's true that the prophet said hussain is from me and i
[54:15]am from hussain allah loves the one who loves saying that's true
[54:18]yeah and even the prophet said that by mama ali ali is
[54:22]from me and i am from ali but they're like it's no
[54:24]big deal because there's also a companion called julie bibb who julie
[54:29]bieb they say julie bieber died in the battle of uh and
[54:35]the prophet also said julie bib is from me and i am
[54:38]from july bib this third group say no no no when rasool
[54:43]allah says hussain is from me and i am from hussain allah
[54:48]loves the one who loves hussain they turn around they say that's
[54:52]where sunni and we admire imam al-hussein because rasulullah was saying that
[54:56]my path is the path of hussain my life is the life
[55:00]of hussein my principles are the principles this third group again they
[55:06]are sunni but what else do they say they encourage tears for
[55:12]imam al-hussein you will find for example scholars and teachers of this
[55:17]third group you you'll find for example imam khalid you'll find for
[55:24]example mawlana tarak jamil all of them have given lectures in honor
[55:27]of imam al-hussein where they've shed tears for imam al-hussein where they've
[55:33]stood up against those who say what's hussain hussain zamustahid who got
[55:37]it all wrong this third group have scholars who have given lectures
[55:41]on imam hussain they've given lectures they encourage tears and even though
[55:46]they believe in the fasting on ashura they don't push it extensively
[55:52]they'll say yes within our tradition within sunni tradition it's mentioned that
[55:57]you fast on ashora but this third group what do they say
[56:00]they say that you should also remember the tragedy of karbala the
[56:05]martyrdom of imam al-hussein this third group doesn't seek to exonerate yazid
[56:13]with dr adnan ibrahim what does dr abraham say doesn't say you
[56:19]know what maybe allah will forgive him no third group takes another
[56:23]line of sunni tradition on imam hussain the lion of suyuta and
[56:28]others who used to do la oniyazid not put the blame on
[56:35]um and put the blame on ibn ziad rather this third group
[56:38]makes it clear that that yazid was a tyrannical drunkard despot who
[56:42]had been the complete opposite to the morality which was espoused by
[56:49]who by rasulallah so therefore this third group although they are known
[56:57]as sunnah and they may be known for example as brelvi they
[56:59]might be known as sufi they might be known in different names
[57:04]but for them they have an admiration for imam al-hussein because they
[57:09]find a spirituality i'm saying this third group would they destroy the
[57:13]grave of manifestation no they go on ziyarah to imam who says
[57:16]how many i've seen of the followers of abdul qaddal gilani they
[57:20]go to ziyarah of imam al-hussein they may go to the ziyar
[57:26]of abdul qadrilani who are the ones who are the nor the
[57:38]light of rasulallah we see them standing in karbala with their hands
[57:49]faulted a few minutes later in tears next to the zarya the
[57:52]hawaiian their hands are folded in salah but when you come to
[57:58]visit say this it doesn't matter if your hands are folded or
[58:01]your hands are by your side you have come to imam al-hussein
[58:06]with the knee of getting closer to allah and of pleasing rasulullah
[58:13]if now i stood in karbala and my sunni brother comes there
[58:18]to karbala like you see in iraq many shia sunni who pray
[58:21]next to each other how many of us have seen this does
[58:26]anyone come and harass does anyone say anything never and never will
[58:30]it happen because that's not the way we've been raised many sunni
[58:34]and shia grew up going to majalis together this third group in
[58:39]pakistan when you would find for example allama rashid would recite they
[58:45]would all be sitting next to each other in kuwait when shaykh
[58:49]ali would recite this third group would be sitting next to each
[58:53]other why because they realized that imam al-hussein was a common denominator
[58:56]between them they realized that karbala was a tragedy a spiritual tragedy
[59:02]not just a physical tragedy but the imam al-hussein was victorious and
[59:08]ensured islam of rasulallah continued and the islam of abu sufyan and
[59:13]his wife would have a stab at the very least that would
[59:17]eventually haunt them 80 odd years later so therefore this third group
[59:20]may be called sunni but they have profound love for imam al-hussein
[59:27]the fourth group is of course the shia amongst the shia you
[59:31]have for example the borra you have the nazare ismailis you have
[59:36]the ethnics the borah until today will have majalis every day in
[59:41]the month of muharram some will mention from the second onwards you'll
[59:45]have the borah having majalis they'll have certain as they will call
[59:51]it they'll be wonderful messages who of course go from imam assad
[60:01]through ismail the nizaris the on the tenth of muharram sends a
[60:05]document to all of the ismailis telling them about imam al-hussein and
[60:09]what we should learn from imam hussain and for us our pride
[60:16]and our joy and our life is for saying how do we
[60:22]view imam al-hussein we said the first group don't know much about
[60:26]him second group he's the much the head who gets things wrong
[60:29]third group we admire him he's the light of rasulallah for us
[60:36]he is no doubt of the five greatest that were created by
[60:41]allah subhanahu wa ta'ala on the first level in shiite theology we
[60:45]believe in the nas the designation of imam al-hussein al-islam that he
[60:50]was an imam who was chosen by allah subhanahu wa ta'ala we
[60:54]shi i don't respect imam al-hussein because he's the grandson of rasulallah
[60:59]we disrespect him because of the reason of what we respect him
[61:04]because of the merit of imam al-hussein but he was one of
[61:09]the lights of god the manifestation of divine power and authority on
[61:14]the earth manifestation of divine mercy on the earth imam al-hussein for
[61:21]us number one nas chosen by allah the other three don't talk
[61:51]much about the elm theology master spirituality master ethics master law master
[61:58]do you know those other three groups i would tell them you
[62:02]want to know imam al qasam go read for tonight which we
[62:09]recite on the plains of or go and read the final sermons
[62:13]of imam al-hussein like we'll remember them tomorrow the sermons of imam
[62:17]al-hussein on the plains of karbala but you wouldn't be surprised the
[62:22]son of fatima and the son of ali that you wouldn't be
[62:25]surprised whatsoever that imam al-hussein would have the eloquence that his father
[62:32]displayed and his mother displayed as well so therefore for us imam
[62:37]hussain number one he is chosen by god he's not just to
[62:40]be revered because he's a young boy who's the grandson of a
[62:42]prophet number two infallible in contrast to the group that said he's
[62:48]a much the head who makes mistakes never would abba abdullah make
[62:53]an error or a mistake abba abdullah is he who has inspiration
[63:03]from every move that he makes is a move on the path
[63:05]of the lord as that walk should be so you found that
[63:10]imam say number two he had that elm and he had as
[63:16]well asma you put all of these three together in our conception
[63:19]further than that when it comes to the day that imam al-hussein
[63:23]was martyred we said that the other groups fast on ashura for
[63:30]us when we look at this being pushed everywhere that's hussein don't
[63:36]mention hussain fast on remember and i find today everyone sending me
[63:43]shii traditions which talk of the fast of you're right within our
[63:49]books it's mentioned the fast of but when you take something from
[63:53]our books when you take anything from my books also take the
[63:59]other things from my books as well you can't pick and choose
[64:02]from my books what suits you you took a hadith from my
[64:05]books and hadith what did it say the hadith says about the
[64:11]fasting on the 9th or the 10th of muharram fasting on fasting
[64:19]on ashura you're right it's in my books from renowned scholars you've
[64:23]mentioned sheikh al khalini sheikh it's in my books it's there that
[64:27]the prophet recommended for us to fast on the 9th and the
[64:31]10th or on the 10th of muharram you're right it's in my
[64:36]books no doubt it's in my books but also in my books
[64:38]number one is the hadith that when the fast of the holy
[64:42]month of ramadan came we left the fast of ashura the fast
[64:48]of the holy month of ramadan the obligatory fast when that came
[64:51]we left the fast of high so even in my books when
[64:54]you show me let it say is that the prophet recommending fasting
[64:57]you're right but imam says when the fast of holy month of
[65:02]ramadan became an obligation that fast was a fast that was then
[65:06]stopped number two not just that we have a hadith from the
[65:13]imam when someone says can we fast on ashura is the truth
[65:17]recommended he said which fast the fast of the son of marajana
[65:36]same person you find that imam says you want to fast on
[65:41]ash look at the difference in the way we look at imam
[65:43]al-hussein a group of people are having a wedding on ashura another
[65:48]group are remembering moses no problem that's your tradition imam says i
[65:53]tell you those who fast on ashura will be raised with the
[65:56]family of ziad and with shimmer binding in our books my brother
[66:03]don't be fooled by these whatsapp messages they send you a list
[66:06]of hadiths and they're like look in your books it says you
[66:09]should fasten a problem in my books it's there but you don't
[66:12]just pick and choose from my books you have to reconcile the
[66:17]traditions even some of our raja may say you can fast on
[66:21]ashura but it's makru reprehensible others who prohibited it i remember much
[66:28]less prohibition outright but you found that some of our traditions some
[66:32]of our scholars may say it's macro but in the hadiths you
[66:38]can't pick formula hadith from el cafe and forget all the others
[66:43]when imam assad says those who fast on the day of ashura
[66:45]will be raised with the family of ziad those who fast are
[66:49]fasting the fast of eben marijana when someone came to imam assad
[66:55]said to him what do you think of the ninth of muharram
[66:56]there's a fast from rasulallah he said you know what i think
[66:59]of the 9th of muharram the 9th of muharram is when imam
[67:02]al-hussein's companions were in worship and prayer and they were being besieged
[67:07]by the opposition on the 9th of muharram and then he says
[67:12]the 10th of muharram is that 10th which broke all of our
[67:17]hearts likewise in shiite tradition what do we have we have the
[67:21]clear evidence that's there that those who recite poetry for imam al-hussein
[67:26]those who write poetry for imam hussain they are rewarded likewise we
[67:31]share that with the sophies we said others who may not be
[67:37]shiha wrote for imam hussain likewise all of our scholars would receive
[67:41]rewards the likes of double ben and others would sit next to
[67:46]the imam the imam would say recite for me i want to
[67:50]hear the poetry on imam al-hussein look at that attachment to rasulullah
[67:56]likewise for us would we destroy the grave of imam al-hussein like
[68:02]the salah he wants to allah for us we die to go
[68:06]and visit imam al-hussein we don't just die we have died visiting
[68:12]how many of us lost lives just so that we could be
[68:17]next to say this next to abel next to qasim and akbar
[68:22]next to hor and habib we would go because our imams would
[68:29]say to us do you know what imam al-hussein is do you
[68:31]know what it is says i saw imam assad in his jewish
[68:36]crying and crying and i said to him imam what is it
[68:40]that makes you cry what is it that you were saying is
[68:43]that i was reading but imagine imam assad reads the dua for
[68:48]you he said to me mom what's the of the dua imam
[68:54]would mention allah forgive me forgive my brethren and forgive the sword
[69:04]of imam hussain my dear brothers and sisters this is the night
[69:09]of hashor this is the night of your tears you have any
[69:11]hajjat while the tear is there remember imam al-hussein and if you
[69:17]want to go see as i mentioned earlier insha allah all of
[69:20]us will be in arabic together you find that imam assad says
[69:25]our allah forgive me forgive my brethren and especially the sword of
[69:32]imam meaning imam al-hussein has something so special about him and she
[69:35]thought after he dies there is still a presence of his soul
[69:40]the kak the earth of qarabag is a cure for us you
[69:45]finally says forgive me my brothers and those who visit the great
[69:50]one hussein those who have spent money to go and visit him
[69:55]because if one man deserves to be visited it's him for he
[70:00]gave everything away to humanity and he is the savior of this
[70:06]religion no doubt this religion was entering if it hadn't done already
[70:11]and then he says and those who put their lives in danger
[70:14]to go and visit imam hussain in which other field would albeit
[70:21]allow you to put your lives in danger except that's how high
[70:25]that sacrifice was when imam says oh allah have mercy on those
[70:33]eyes that shed tears for imam al-hussein oh allah have mercy on
[70:39]those faces burned by the sun as they walk to karbala oh
[70:43]allah have mercy on what allah have mercy on those who scream
[70:49]when they remember our allah have mercy on those hearts that break
[70:54]look at the extent of the love for imam al-hussein don't let
[70:58]them continue to tell you shia ahead themselves yeah they put all
[71:01]these on the side these aren't even obligatory for us what's obligatory
[71:04]is the love the remembrance the closeness so that we become upright
[71:09]and try and follow rasulullah because there's no one who will be
[71:14]the best for you to know how to follow the prophet like
[71:17]his family yes i leave these in your hands on the day
[71:23]of judgment quench the thirst of therefore you found that for us
[71:30]shedding the tears writing the poetry going on ziara that was our
[71:35]understanding of our traditional saying and nothing more than what nothing more
[71:40]than the emphasis on the shedding of the tears forsake yes the
[71:44]shedding of the tears for say this there is no school in
[71:51]islam that sheds as many tears and you know because they were
[71:54]jealous of our tears what did they start to say on the
[71:56]jealousy because they were jealous of our tears either they would behead
[72:01]us they bombed us they killed us or they would say we're
[72:04]crying because we were responsible for the killing of imam al-hussein forget
[72:13]that on the side which certainly mecca let him down medina let
[72:17]him down the people of those areas certainly let him down but
[72:21]no one mentions them and believe you me i don't cry because
[72:26]i feel i've let imam al-hussein islam die i cry for a
[72:29]number of other reasons firstly because the first azad no doubt was
[72:34]rasulullah that when this clay turns into blood turns red you know
[72:50]that my hussain has died been abbas talks of rasulullah crying after
[72:54]a dream where he sees imam al-hussein dying therefore when i cry
[73:00]i'm following the sunnah of rasulullah when i cry it's because my
[73:06]imams tell me the tear the size of the wing of a
[73:11]fly in honor of imam al hussein his word cure sins the
[73:15]size of an ocean one person he wondered about this he said
[73:20]how could a tear the size of a wing of a fly
[73:25]for imam al-hussein and karbala how could that cure sins the size
[73:30]of an ocean he talks about this what does he say he
[73:33]says one day a man was a king and this king had
[73:39]gone to war his soldiers were with him and in the middle
[73:42]of the war you found that the soldiers had deserted him he
[73:45]did not see them anymore he was now stranded somewhere and when
[73:52]he was stranded somewhere he didn't know where to go he found
[73:57]the house of this lady he came knocked at the door the
[74:00]lady answered he said listen i'm the king of this town and
[74:06]i as the king have had my soldiers desert me so i
[74:10]wonder if i can just stay in your place until my some
[74:14]of my people come back to me she said no problem i
[74:18]live here alone with my son we will treat you the best
[74:19]of ways those people maybe had one cow or one goat or
[74:24]one sheep in the garden she told her son i want you
[74:29]to go and sacrifice that one animal that we have why because
[74:34]that's all we have and our guest deserves to have everything because
[74:39]he's our guest we will sacrifice all that we have when that
[74:42]king left he went back to his palace he said i promise
[74:46]you one day i'll make it up to you you are so
[74:48]kind to me you found that that son years later told us
[74:51]my mom we're in a difficult situation do you think i should
[74:54]go to the palace of the king and maybe say to that
[74:57]king that don't you remember us that we're the ones who helped
[75:03]you his mom had pushed him to it he didn't think it
[75:06]would happen he went knocks at the door of the king when
[75:10]he knocks there are people who are standing on the doors of
[75:13]the palace what do you want he said you know me and
[75:17]my mom we know the king the people at the door said
[75:19]there's no way you know the king said no we know the
[75:24]king we know him well just go and tell him the mother
[75:26]and the son who gave everything away for you all of a
[75:32]sudden the guards went to the king they came back they said
[75:33]you know what you two you can come in no problem the
[75:37]king looked at him he said forgive me years have gone past
[75:40]i should have rewarded you and your mother he turned around to
[75:43]his guards he said you know what these two did when i
[75:46]had nothing i went to their house and all they had in
[75:50]their house was one animal that's all they had in that house
[75:52]but they sacrificed that one animal everything that they had for me
[75:58]what do you guards think i should give them as a reward
[76:03]one of them said give some treasure another said give some land
[76:06]the king said how unjust all of you are this young man
[76:12]and his mom sacrificed and gave away everything for me therefore i
[76:19]should give away everything for them my dear brothers and sisters on
[76:26]the night of ashura if a normal king could be so just
[76:30]that he is willing to give away everything that he owns because
[76:36]the mother and her son sacrificed one animal for him then the
[76:43]king of kings would not give away all his repentance to those
[76:47]who cry for the man who gave everything away on the 10th
[76:52]of muharram he gave everything away every part of his body he
[76:57]gave away he gave away all his sons but above all else
[77:01]we thought when we saw hajjar and we thought that a baby
[77:07]would never surely die with thirst we had heard about zamzam and
[77:12]we were certain that a baby wouldn't die with thirst then we
[77:17]see zainab taking the six month old from rabbab even the six
[77:24]months old he sacrificed no tradition in islam remembers the baby of
[77:29]imam and hussain like the shia and that's our source of pride
[77:35]that when we meet rasulullah will say that we remembered every member
[77:41]of your family when and when they killed the children of hussein
[77:53]we never forget them we remember them every year gave the baby
[77:58]to zainab she said i beg you take him to abba abdullah
[78:02]why did rabbah not take him she didn't want to cause more
[78:05]pain to imam al-hussein she had just seen him she had seen
[78:12]him leave what strength did the zainab have because my dear brothers
[78:23]and sisters begins now yes now it's zayn up coming into the
[78:29]folder she came to imam al-hussein she said i can't even hear
[78:33]the baby groan or moon anymore there's not even any crying from
[78:38]that baby imam hussain said give me the baby the baby was
[78:43]a six-month-old he came out on the battlefield in kerabala he looked
[78:48]towards the army of um imagine the scene all of you know
[78:54]the scene well he came out to the army of um he
[78:57]looked at all of them remember those people were saying they all
[79:01]used to say muhammad rasool allah but what's the point if you
[79:04]don't have the will i of ali and his sons he came
[79:09]to them he said to them that look you want to kill
[79:11]me kill me what crime has this baby committed surely in your
[79:17]hearts you can quench the thirst of this baby some of them
[79:20]said you know what just give the baby some water others of
[79:23]them said no kill the baby he came he placed that six-month-old
[79:28]on the earth of kerbela the way hajjar had placed a smile
[79:35]on the pure land now rabbab looked on at her smile she
[79:41]looked from far nobody bought any water the imam came back one
[79:48]time he held he held the six month baby my dear brothers
[79:51]and sisters an arrow is normally used when they want to hunt
[79:55]the arrow that was used by haram alabin normally was used to
[80:00]cut the neck of a camel number one a camel can contain
[80:06]its thirst number two the difference between the neck of a camel
[80:10]and the neck of a six-month-old baby nobody describes what happened next
[80:16]like he asked him about the arrows that he shot on the
[80:26]tender muharram hanuman replied about four that hit their target which four
[80:34][Applause] [Applause] when he was on his horse had lost both of
[80:48]his arms knowing that he had no arms shot him on the
[80:54]right eye he said normally when someone falls on the ground they
[81:02]fall with their arms in front of them except abbas he fell
[81:05]with an arrow through his eye he said how about the second
[81:13]arrow he said the second arrow is shot [Applause] when he saw
[81:26]him lying on the ground what did he do at that moment
[81:30]he saw that they were about to kill him he ran out
[81:34]he sat by his uncle's body saying i'm called out my nephew
[81:38]come back he looked towards they said auntie how can i come
[81:45]back and my uncle is here alone all of a sudden the
[81:48]arrow shot him and killed him when he lay next to him
[81:54]how about the third arrow what was the third arrow may allah
[82:00]reward your tears now the third arrow i shot on the six
[82:08]months old baby i saw the baby flap its hands like a
[82:12]bird flaps its wings picture that side they asked him how about
[82:18]the fourth arrow he sent the fourth arrow i shot on the
[82:24][Applause] [Music] allow us to be amongst the companions of the imam
[82:41]the originators of this majesty allah bless them and allow them to
[82:46]have the intercession of muhammad and muhammad we pray to allah subhanahu
[82:51]wa ta'ala been asked my dear brother and sisters to pray for
[82:54]a number of people i need all of us together and do
[82:58]uh we want our duas on these nights for our brother and
[83:02]for saying on this night the night of wherever we may be
[84:02]answer bring peace and prosperity to the muhammad wherever they may be
[84:14]our brothers in karachi allah help them with the floods our brothers
[84:17]around the world muslim and non-muslim alike help them with the viruses
[84:21]and diseases they face we pray to allah for all of our
[84:26]means who instilled in us the love of of your salawat [Music]
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