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LIVE - Dr. Sayed Ammar Nakshawani - The Prophet’s (saw) Pulpit: Discourse v Censorship - Night 2
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[0:28]hmm in [Music] um although the plight has made me speak to
[1:23]you i find speaking to you of little value what i find
[1:31]scolding you is great therefore i'll continue to scold you the eyes
[1:36]are tearful and the heart is sorrowful how ironic it is that
[1:43]the members of the party of allah are killed by the members
[1:45]of the party of shaytan the first of our salawat in honor
[1:53]of rasulullah muhammad [Music] foreign the third with your loudest voice is
[2:15]in honor of the imam of our time imam the prophetic pulpit
[2:34]otherwise known as the mumbai has been seen for many centuries to
[2:41]be the most important medium of communication of the beliefs of the
[2:46]religion of islam wherever a person goes in the muslim world they'll
[2:49]see that there is a pulpit which has been erected in their
[2:54]local mosque that pulpit which is erected in the mosque is a
[2:58]pulpit that becomes the main medium of communication of the tenants and
[3:03]the principles and the beliefs of the religion of islam if you
[3:07]go to the middle east for example you'll find that irrespective of
[3:13]the sect from which you come from or indeed the denomination which
[3:16]is your background you would have always heard a particular lecture from
[3:20]the pulpit you would have heard many of the thoughts and the
[3:26]opinions of the scholars towards the masses from the pulpit therefore that
[3:31]pulpit becomes no doubt of the utmost importance in the way the
[3:36]community thinks and the way the community progresses as and at the
[3:40]end of the day that pulpit becomes the main form of communication
[3:46]to the community when it comes to theology when it comes to
[3:50]law but also when it comes to social issues that pulpit which
[3:57]originally was known as the member of rasulallah and now you find
[4:09]in the world today there are thousands who sit on the hussein
[4:12]you go to different parts of the world and you'll see in
[4:17]the months of muharram and the months of safar that many of
[4:21]these speakers in some cases you'll find some of the most renowned
[4:26]scholars in the world will sit on this pulpit seeking to disseminate
[4:30]the teachings of the prophets and his family seeking to disseminate the
[4:33]teachings of the holy quran by the same time you find that
[4:39]there are a number of challenges that are related to the pulpit
[4:43]today because the reality is that when you look in the world
[4:46]that surrounds us there isn't only one islam there is an islam
[4:49]of the middle east there is an islam of the indo-pak subcontinent
[4:54]there is islam of the west there is an islam of north
[4:58]america there is an islam of australia each of these different communities
[5:04]has different challenges that they face as in each and every one
[5:08]of them faces a different context a different issue that they need
[5:12]answers from those sitting on the pulpit are normally the ones who
[5:17]provide those answers but the first challenge of those sitting on the
[5:21]pulpit is that they are fallibles representing infallibles the reality is for
[5:26]as many majalis or as many lectures that are given on the
[5:31]pulpit the reality is that these lectures are the lectures of the
[5:35]worldview of a fallible human being as in someone like myself may
[5:39]look at the quran and may look at the teachings of the
[5:42]bait i get that and i try and provide some sort of
[5:46]perspective on what is in the quran and from the teachings of
[5:53]the albeit if i don't have the deepest perspective then inevitably i
[5:56]will go towards whom i'll go towards one of our may allah
[6:02]lengthen their lives i'll go to one of them for example but
[6:04]even with them most of their lectures are on if you look
[6:11]at what's discussed on the mumbai most of what's discussed on the
[6:14]member is either theology or history do you agree within theology within
[6:23]history tariq you have discussions of the lessons of the that emerge
[6:28]from theology for example theological discussions that then teach us how to
[6:33]relate to them or the ethics of what emerges from our lessons
[6:37]in history most of our marajah will not necessarily give a hundred
[6:44]or two hundred or five hundred or a thousand lectures on islamic
[6:47]history if you look for example lengthen his life i cannot say
[6:56]that i've listened to a hundred majalis of ayatollah on for example
[7:01]the biographies of the bait i cannot say that somebody else has
[7:08]listened to ayatollah s a hundred lectures for example on the lives
[7:16]of imam assad most of our knowledge of history will come from
[7:21]the pulpit not from our maraja our will provide us with lessons
[7:28]for example on and on and they'll go into areas like for
[7:35]example went into discussions concerning hadith which within its envelopes certain parts
[7:41]of history how will i know for example about the context of
[7:46]an imam in their lives without my understanding of for example their
[7:49]companions when did their companions live the historical context of rajal for
[7:54]example but the same time you'll find that you might find someone
[7:59]like allah muhammad delved a couple of times into history so you
[8:04]have that delve into history but where is most of your knowledge
[8:08]come from when it comes to most of it has come from
[8:14]the that's the reality as much as a person revealed ayatollah hakim
[8:18]may allah bless his soul who passed away a couple of weeks
[8:23]ago if i were to ask everybody listening to this matchless and
[8:27]the many who are listening at home how much elm did you
[8:30]gain from ayatullah reality is that the mumbai has more power in
[8:37]some cases than even one of the most revered of the 21st
[8:41]century the manager for example may provide me with guidelines even outside
[8:48]of they may provide me with guidelines like allah did when he
[8:53]gave the fatwa a number of years back in relation to isis
[8:55]that was a guideline but once again that doesn't necessarily mean that
[9:01]i to allah sistani will provide all the lessons throughout the year
[9:08]in muharram or safar or the mawalid true in many cases if
[9:24]you see most people in the shia world they refer to somebody
[9:27]who is at a particular level that level may be because of
[9:32]their but it also could be because of their oratory it could
[9:36]be because of their charisma it doesn't necessarily mean that that person
[9:39]is the most knowledgeable but that person is somebody who's trying to
[9:45]provide a perspective on that number that perspective remains fallible that perspective
[9:53]remains fallible and in many cases the ones who question the perspective
[9:56]or the ones who discuss the perspective are fallibles discussing fallables do
[10:00]you agree so if someone like me for example gave an opinion
[10:05]from the mumbai most people who may agree with me will be
[10:11]fallibles you'll find who in some cases are not even students of
[10:15]the religion some will agree with me and even those who don't
[10:17]agree with me may not be students of the religion but they'll
[10:20]give their opinion as well therefore what do we have we have
[10:25]that the mumbai faces its first challenge and that is the reality
[10:28]of fallibility that when a person comes up to give an opinion
[10:34]on the mumbai that opinion that they give is an opinion of
[10:36]a fallible in the middle of fallibles ever since the labor of
[10:41]the twelfth imam the reality for all of us is that we've
[10:43]lived in a religion where one thousand one hundred years of this
[10:49]religion is made up of people who are not do we agree
[10:51]as in islam is a fourteen hundred year old religion one thousand
[10:58]one hundred years of it is a religion one may argue especially
[11:04]in shiasm which is a religion made up of non-muslims for the
[11:06]first 300 years from the prophet peace be upon him in his
[11:09]family until when until the height of our imam that you could
[11:14]say is a period of asthma for the shia our non-shia brethren
[11:18]you'll see many of them that they believe that the beginning there
[11:22]was an asthma but then even after that they maybe believe in
[11:26]a period where people speaking on behalf of the religion are not
[11:30]necessarily masoon even though they're not masoom they still have probably the
[11:35]most important position in shiasm if you name the most renowned personalities
[11:39]in the world outside of the maharaja most of them are the
[11:45]ones who you listen to their medialis whether you listen to order
[11:48]majalis or you listen to english majalis or you listen to arabic
[11:50]majalis or you listen to farsi majalis 20 names you could gather
[11:56]together who between them have six to seven figures of hits throughout
[11:59]the year those people therefore highlights the mumbai how important it is
[12:06]today that one may argue that the direction and the vision of
[12:11]tashe depends on the mumbai and its world view a mambari can
[12:14]literally make or break a community do we agree you can have
[12:19]a mambare who can build a whole generation you look at for
[12:23]example built a generation based on what based on his lectures for
[12:36]example then you have for example in farsi there are a number
[12:41]of speakers who built generations based on their majalis as well so
[12:48]on the one hand what we have is we have the importance
[12:49]of the mumbai on the second hand what do we have that
[12:55]social media dictates that now it's scrutinized more than ever before whatever
[12:59]we say on mumbai is scrutinized if now i discuss abu bakr
[13:04]or i discuss omar the wife of the prophet peace be upon
[13:14]him family when i discuss this now every single point that i
[13:20]make about them is available within a few minutes in saudi arabia
[13:24]do we agree within a few minutes it's available in pakistan within
[13:28]a few minutes it's available in oman within a few minutes it's
[13:32]available in london or in america it means that now when we
[13:38]discuss from the mumbai there has never been a period in the
[13:41]history of this religion where literally everything that's said on the mumbai
[13:47]can literally be heard across the world do we agree like globalization
[13:51]and how the internet has made the world so small that now
[13:55]whatever you say on the pulpit of imam al-hussein everybody in mozambique
[14:03]straight away they can hear people for example who are in europe
[14:06]straight away they can hear that means there's extra responsibility on the
[14:10]people sitting on the mumbai it then means that we face a
[14:15]challenge in the shia world that challenge is where does the mumbai
[14:18]head in the 21st century because at the same time one may
[14:25]argue we as shia have never had it better than now in
[14:28]2021 i sit here in iraq i ask the iraqis who are
[14:34]sitting in the audience could i sit here in 1986 could i
[14:39]sit here in 1993 could i sit here in 1981 could i
[14:44]sit here in 1984 well i wouldn't even dream of sitting here
[14:49]probably half if there was a crowd half of them would be
[14:52]the ones who would probably lynch me after the lecture that's lynch
[14:55]means that subhanallah i've been blessed being lynched that means i've got
[15:00]away with it reality is that acid wouldn't be too far away
[15:04]for a person who tried to listen to majalis and hussain alaihissalam
[15:08]in this particular area in london we can have majalis 24 7.
[15:12]in pakistan likewise i've had the honor of lecturing in pakistan and
[15:19]lecturing in india and you see everywhere julius one way majalis another
[15:23]sabil another azad so what do we do with the mumbai do
[15:27]we for the first time in our history leave the world of
[15:33]taqiyya and actually speak or do we no stick to the guidelines
[15:38]that are given to us that look you shouldn't speak about these
[15:41]issues speak about akhlaq for example some of our brethren in the
[15:45]khaleej when i look at their lectures of their speakers in the
[15:50]khaleej i look at the topic the heart in islam being a
[15:54]good human being a good brother being a good neighbor then i
[15:58]can tell definitely that there's censorship in those countries because you look
[16:01]at those topics and you're like masha'allah they're nice topics but you've
[16:05]done them for seven years in a row now i've understood insania
[16:08]inside out now and therefore you found that this question arises likewise
[16:15]in our communities is it anyone who we invite to sit on
[16:19]the manaba as well is there a filtering system for this as
[16:22]in now i see somebody who sits on the mumbai for example
[16:27]has no credentials whatsoever but has the credentials of oratory has the
[16:34]credentials of a nice voice and now they sit on the mamba
[16:38]is that enough is that person worthy of sitting on here or
[16:42]should there be a criteria there should be who sets that criteria
[16:46]so therefore you found that this issue of the prophet's pulpit becomes
[16:52]one of the utmost importance after that intro i'd like to dissect
[16:55]it in depth tonight and i'd like to do it in the
[16:59]following stages number one that number of the holy prophet peace be
[17:01]upon him and his family why was it built in the first
[17:04]place and how was it built number two how did the prophet
[17:10]and the albeit stress on the importance of the pulpit number three
[17:15]how did the member of the prophet evolve into the member of
[17:21]imam al-hussein and the member of imam was saying did it begin
[17:26]with lectures or was it something a lot more simple and how
[17:29]did the imams look at the majalis gatherings and those who attended
[17:34]them further than that how did the shia then evolve the pulpit
[17:38]and how do we see that evolution in the period of the
[17:43]river after that when we come to looking at the pulpit is
[17:46]there a filtering system or can anyone just sit on it how
[17:51]about extremism how about sectarianism should we discuss sativa and fedex or
[17:59]should we remain away from these issues completely if we do then
[18:04]how do we answer allah in relation to those who are oppressed
[18:08]and how do we answer allah in relation to our children further
[18:13]than that what's the future of this mambar and can there be
[18:19]a reform from a monologue to maybe a dialogue and what other
[18:22]areas may one consider reform did the late ever give lectures of
[18:28]a sectarian nature if they did what was the context of them
[18:32]and how did the pulpit of imam al-hussein emerge with the sister
[18:39]of imam al-hussein let's examine this and dissect the topic in complete
[18:44]depth we all know the word some pronounce it as member and
[18:48]some pronounce it as mambar comes from nabara the idea of something
[18:54]being raised or something being elevated you found that the holy prophet
[18:59]peace be upon him in his family when he used to sit
[19:01]with his companions if you imagine i'm sitting with all of you
[19:06]on the ground i'm not sitting three four steps above you when
[19:08]you would sit with them on the ground or on the floor
[19:12]you would find that sometimes people would come from outside who have
[19:16]never met rasulullah it's not like technology today if you say to
[19:20]someone have you seen say he said yeah i've seen said online
[19:25]for example i know how he looks like but in the time
[19:27]of the holy prophet if you came from if or you came
[19:31]from nedjd or you came from abyssinia you've never met the man
[19:34]so when you actually come you've heard about this man that there's
[19:38]this man for example in medina and that this man i really
[19:40]want to meet him when they used to come they used to
[19:44]see the companions around him they couldn't tell which one was him
[19:46]of course in some cases if you are pure-hearted then the likes
[19:51]of abu dhabi will know who you are but others may not
[19:53]necessarily recognize who you are and so when that's what happened there
[19:58]was a request to the prophet peace be upon his family from
[20:03]the companions do you mind if we out of clay make a
[20:05]bench for you a bench so that you sit on that bench
[20:11]it's elevated and that everybody will know that that is the holy
[20:15]prophet peace be upon him and his family that bench became later
[20:21]a form of elevation for the people known as the mambar there
[20:24]was a lady in medina by the name of aisha the lady
[20:29]in medina she came to the prophet and she had a request
[20:32]that ya rasul when you give the friday sermon can you give
[20:37]the friday sermon on a more elevated pulpit and that's why she
[20:42]had a roman slave if i'm not mistaken or a turkish slave
[20:46]by the name of yakum he came he built that number therefore
[20:50]you had that the holy prophet moved from giving talks on the
[20:57]ground to giving talks on a bench elevated to giving talks on
[21:01]a mambar and that's why whenever we go to medina to visit
[21:04]the holy prophet peace be upon him and his family you'll see
[21:09]that in mexico everybody wants to pray in a certain area yes
[21:13]what's the area that we all seek to pray the area that's
[21:18]known as the rover where members between my house and my mumbai
[21:31]look at the word mumbar because whenever people ask me that this
[21:35]word mumbar he sat on member he's going to mumbai get the
[21:39]member this begins with who with the prophet peace be upon his
[21:42]family because you go to medina between where his mumbai is and
[21:45]where his house is the holy prophet says subhanallah that there is
[21:54]a piece of jannah in that area first point is that when
[21:59]we say karbala is a piece of jannah why do you doubt
[22:03]it we say that karbala is a piece of jannah people say
[22:06]look at the shia they are extreme in their beliefs that they
[22:10]say karbala is a piece of jannah well hold on why if
[22:14]allah subhanahu wa could give us hajjar and swat from jannah on
[22:19]the earth and allah could give us a garden of the gardens
[22:26]of jannah on the earth why can he then not put another
[22:28]piece of jannah next to imam al-hussein firstly secondly that role them
[22:36]in jannah is not just to be dismissed that between the mumbai
[22:40]and the house is a piece of jannah no that could easily
[22:42]be where fatherhood is buried nobody knows where fatherhood is buried and
[22:50]there's a reason that just in case you thought that i died
[22:54]a natural death ask them where am i buried if it was
[22:58]such a simple natural death everyone should know where i'm buried but
[23:02]nobody knows but one of the possible places where she is buried
[23:07]is where is between that particular location why if the grave is
[23:13]a garden for the believer is there a greater believer than the
[23:17]true mother of all believers that garden area could easily be the
[23:22]place where father is buried therefore he says what when he says
[23:35]that means that the mumbai and the time of the prophet would
[23:38]be where he would give his hothap from he would give his
[23:40]sermons from people would attend from far and wide sometimes he would
[23:45]sit sometimes he would stand because you could give a lecture and
[23:48]this is something not to be dismissed in 2021 some of us
[23:52]can give talks by sitting like this for an hour some of
[23:56]us no maybe could reach a stage where a person can take
[23:59]a mic and walk around a person can be innovative and then
[24:05]they when we come to the khutba of salah we see that
[24:07]a person stands up maybe a person can stand up as well
[24:09]the prophet would always insist try and elevate whoever is speaking and
[24:16]that's why even on the day of ghadir bring all the saddles
[24:18]bring the everything together make a pulpit so that emir meaning can
[24:23]be seen by everyone they would always have this pulpit ready and
[24:28]that's why you found that after the prophet died peace be upon
[24:30]his family the first khalifa the second khalifa others they would come
[24:34]and sit on the mamba of the holy prophet peace be upon
[24:38]him his family according to some justified according to imam al-hussein on
[24:42]one occasion making it clear get off my grandfather's pulpit that pulpit
[24:48]is my grandfather's pulpits not your grandfather's pulpit so you found different
[24:52]people would occupy the pulpit even many times they would have sermons
[24:58]they would have when the prophet's pulpit then emerges as imam al-hussein's
[25:04]pulpit interesting that now you hear the husseini pulpit what is the
[25:10]hosseini pulpit hosseini pulpit in reality emerges after karbala that people begin
[25:17]to talk about what happened in karbala to imam al-hussein you found
[25:26]for example talked about karbala for three days in a row they
[25:36]talked about karbala that in a way explained that when people wanted
[25:38]to talk about imam al-saying they would gather together and they would
[25:42]sit on a pulpit for example and talk but those were not
[25:47]majes the way we had them please understand this delicate point when
[25:53]he was talking about majalis in those days or the pulpit i
[25:58]don't think imam assad necessarily sat on a mumbai with people under
[26:04]him and gave majalis in the way we do them talked about
[26:09]theology would have talked about law would have talked about the father
[26:13]of salam but in many cases what was the mechanist at that
[26:18]time the mentalist at that time was imam assad would sit with
[26:23]his companions for example [Applause] do you people sit together and you
[26:35]gather and talk amongst each other he replied by saying yes we
[26:41]do imam said i love these types of gatherings yes [Applause] may
[26:52]allah have mercy on those who revive our affairs crucial line here
[27:02]may allah have mercy on those who give life to our affairs
[27:08]meaning that sometimes the teachings of us the bait may die may
[27:11]allah have mercy on those who sit and revive them what became
[27:18]the aim of muhammad hussain the revival of the teachings of the
[27:23]quran when imam says the most important word in this hadith why
[27:33]means to give life that means that even al muhammad's teachings if
[27:39]they're left without reflection without contemplation they could die because a person
[27:43]ends up doing what a person ends up following stereo superstition a
[27:48]person ends up following culture no longer is it about imam al-hussein
[27:53]it becomes about their own culture or their family's culture or their
[27:56]country's culture imam says may allah have mercy on the one who
[28:03]gives life to our teachings but then imam also the mantra is
[28:09]how would it be imam would sit and he'd ask poets sometimes
[28:12]to sit on the imam would ask for example he'd say to
[28:20]him recite poetry for me you see how we had before i
[28:23]began we had the wonderful recital we had for example they recited
[28:31]poems in honor of imam al-hussein some of us call these or
[28:35]some of us call this for example the related to imam al-hussein
[28:41]the poetry related in the time of the imams what were the
[28:44]lectures in reality the lectures in reality wasn't ten nights muharram a
[28:48]person sits remember no imams would sit with the poets would say
[28:55]to him recite for me and remind me of hussein at the
[29:02]beginning it was purely it was purely massage today i find some
[29:08]people saying what is this all massage we want intellectual analysis the
[29:13]original major list was by the way originally the medjlist of imam
[29:21]hussain alaihissalam originally was what was just to remind me of the
[29:26]masa someone says why why remind of the messiah above karbala does
[29:30]your heart not become soft when you listen to the messiah when
[29:36]you hear about the arrow in the neck of that baby does
[29:40]your heart not become soft when you hear about losing his right
[29:44]losing his left does your heart not become soft when you hear
[29:49]for example about zainab being hit does your heart not become soft
[29:55]people don't realize that in the messiah of imam al-hussein the imams
[29:59]were giving us a hint that you can sit on a mamba
[30:03]and given an intellectual analysis all your life if you don't touch
[30:07]the hearts then you've not understood what the aim is of karbala
[30:11]karbala was to soften the hearts of the human because their hearts
[30:15]had become hearts of stone so imam would tell jaffar recite for
[30:22]me poetry on imam al-hussein then you would find ima by the
[30:30]way was not an orator wasn't a charismatic mawlana but with the
[31:03]voice of the people of iraq why are you asking them why
[31:10]don't you do it for example don't necessarily give majalis you'll find
[31:17]even allah bless his soul he used to invite speakers to give
[31:21]him a chalice he never himself used to give why some are
[31:26]of the opinion that he was saying that this person's oratory is
[31:30]better than mine haroon might be more eloquent than me in this
[31:48]moment it doesn't mean that nabi musa couldn't give lectures but here
[31:53]amarjah says that listen this person his voice will get to the
[31:59]people he will make the people cry that's why i never be
[32:02]condescending to someone who sits on mumbai hussain and people cry from
[32:07]them and you're like these just because he has a nice voice
[32:09]he's on mumbai that voice is still a gift from allah that
[32:15]voice could have been used to be a singer i'm telling you
[32:21]the voice easily someone like mullab could easily have become the top
[32:28]singer in the middle east easy but instead he gave his voice
[32:31]to the prophet and his family when easily there are singers in
[32:38]iraq in lebanon in syria in egypt their voices do not come
[32:42]near gave his voice instead of our people saying alhamdulillah masha allah
[32:50]that we have someone like that in the same way and others
[32:54]were great in their poems instead people want to say these people
[32:57]it's just their voice don't do this negativity against the one unless
[33:04]you know the history of how this developed so the imams the
[33:07]imams would sit and they'd get someone to recite no her instill
[33:11]no in your kids if your kid wants to come out as
[33:18]an or to recite la mia or marthiya all of this is
[33:19]azadari in the way of imam al-hussein a person should never limit
[33:25]azadari to only lopham or matam or this no this could also
[33:31]be serving food to the people is azadari writing books is aza
[33:35]but the little bait used to love those who recite poems about
[33:40]them especially about imam al-hussein and those who used to have nice
[33:44]voices in their recital and those who used to make them cry
[33:47]imam and would love to cry in muharram in honor of imam
[33:54]al-hussein alaihissalam so therefore in the beginning was messiah when the happens
[33:59]you found with the dynasty or the buoyance in english you know
[34:03]many times we don't discuss these dynasties that came after the raiba
[34:07]there are the buoyants and the fatimids and the ottomans i know
[34:11]the ottomans now has become popular because of arthurgol for example before
[34:15]that many people if you ask them the ottomans lost the ottomans
[34:19]but now when you ask people about the ottomans straight away of
[34:23]course i know the ottomans very well i know it's inside out
[34:25]many of these empires a person discusses you found that in the
[34:31]raiba in the time of the buoyance suddenly we begin to see
[34:34]a development of the where we have maybe lectures which are given
[34:37]in honor of imam al-hussein how many of you have come across
[34:45]works which are known as many of these are in english by
[34:53]the way you can order them online these are the lectures given
[34:55]by sheikh tusi and within these lectures there are wonderful discussions of
[35:03]imam al-hussein of karbala and mind you some of us some of
[35:06]us have to read some of these because sometimes the messiah that
[35:11]we recite in reflection of what shaykh and may be a bit
[35:18]different you have to reflect back on those great ulama to see
[35:21]what is it that they saw about karbala what did they learn
[35:26]about karbala and so on and so forth that develops in the
[35:28]shia world for the next few hundred years until you had a
[35:32]period where in iran for example you had the difference between someone
[35:36]who sat on mumbai who's an islam someone who's a dhakir someone
[35:41]who's a rosa hoon in some cases according to some the opinion
[35:50]came from where came from the rover or the rover of kashfi
[35:54]he wrote wrote that he would for example talk about what's happened
[35:57]in karbala some of what he said is reliable some is not
[36:02]reliable for example and from there people would develop and give majalis
[36:07]even in iraq the majority of lecturers in iraq up until 70
[36:10]80 years ago majority of them what were they majority of the
[36:15]lecturers were just the ones who recited messiah and hussein with some
[36:20]maweba that was until the likes of shaykh ali came and suddenly
[36:23]there was even more of an evolution what was the evolution that
[36:26]you should have an intellectual analysis theological ethical quranic historical for a
[36:34]certain period and then go into the muslim otherwise in the past
[36:36]what was it it became that the main substance was the talk
[36:43]but even the likes of shaykh and the likes of allama rashid
[36:49]and others were speaking within a particular context majority of his majalis
[36:58]were either in kuwait or they were in the united arab emirates
[37:03]that's the majority of the jazz i'm talking post late 70s of
[37:08]course many of those in iraq will remember years before that was
[37:12]renowned for reciting all over iraq but after 78 79 and the
[37:21]revolution kuwait syria united arab emirates sometimes london he would recite lectures
[37:25]there when you're reciting in kuwait or the united arab emirates and
[37:30]place like this you could not necessarily be so open on certain
[37:33]topics nor even mention names if you look at torahbi for example
[37:39]al-arashi many times could not be too open about certain topics why
[37:44]because the environment that surrounds you is an environment where you're thinking
[37:49]that this mamba how am i using it am i using it
[37:51]to cause trouble between the muslims or am i using it to
[37:57]do what or am i using it to bring people towards the
[37:59]religion or at least have love for a little bit that be
[38:16]a source of adornment for us not a source of displeasure let
[38:22]the people come towards us and like us don't let the people
[38:24]go away from us in that time that period could they be
[38:29]open with the names not necessarily you couldn't why that mosque would
[38:33]get shut down properly and the shia who were living there would
[38:36]not have freedom so what you do indirectly and pakistani indo-pak sub-continents
[38:43]all those speakers do this until today for one hour they could
[38:48]give a lecture which is all in direct hints without mentioning the
[38:51]person's name one hour and you know how much they want to
[39:04]mention the name they keep going like that to the crowd and
[39:08]the crowd keeps going back like that to them and you know
[39:12]that they want to say a name but you'll see them for
[39:17]example saying you know who i'm talking about and the crowd says
[39:22]we definitely know who you're talking about that was because they had
[39:28]to in a way protect their crowd they recognized that if they
[39:33]came out openly and said certain things then they have to ask
[39:38]themselves the question will it cause trouble or not in the 80s
[39:43]in pakistan you had sepa sahaba and you had separate muhammad abdi
[39:46]and others giving majalis trying to reply back and there was a
[39:51]period of monada back and forth because they felt that they need
[39:54]to speak out what then arises is this question and that is
[39:59]first and foremost when we come to this question of sectarianism this
[40:03]is the main issue about the mumbar and its development that the
[40:07]mumbai when it's developing now of the holy prophet peace be upon
[40:10]him of the a little bait should this member be a member
[40:14]which is open on discussing certain issues or should it be in
[40:19]direct hints let me explain to you why if for example you
[40:25]see that a person hears my lectures that i gave for example
[40:29]this muharram they were very clear with the names probably the first
[40:33]time one may argue that someone came out very clear with their
[40:36]names but without necessarily being insulting about it that a person came
[40:42]out and said that the first khalifa abu bakr done this and
[40:46]omar done this this was the reply of the prophet uthman done
[40:51]this had done this and so on and so forth that particular
[40:54]way of discussing certain things which one is better to say the
[41:02]names but in an academic manner or to spend an hour making
[41:06]fun of them without saying their names because there are some who
[41:14]say that if you say the names you're gonna cause trouble for
[41:18]us sometimes it's your speaker who's causing trouble for you because for
[41:22]one hour he's making fun of those people without saying their names
[41:28]people aren't stupid in 2021 they know who you're talking about when
[41:33]you make jokes about them you'll notice if an english speaker does
[41:37]it people call him sectarian when a non-english speaker does it they
[41:41]call him mawlana saab why can we not and that's why some
[41:52]people will say but ayatollah may allah lengthen his life some people
[41:57]say the title is that we should stay away from discussing these
[42:03]sectarian issues we shouldn't talk about them but he also the same
[42:11]ayatollah says that if it's done in a scholastic fashion this is
[42:17]important caveat when people get guidelines from ayatollah sistani they love to
[42:22]pick that which suits them what suits them is that they'll say
[42:26]that look he says don't discuss these issues no problem you're right
[42:29]if a person discusses sarifa rudely or ghadir or fedex or jamal
[42:36]and these topics rudely then that is not what mumbai should be
[42:39]doing a person should come forward if i come here and rudely
[42:52]sit here and discuss what happened at sacha and make fun of
[42:57]people like i've seen in order majalis for so many years mawlana's
[43:02]who've sat who for one hour they look at the crowd chronicles
[43:06]and they're laughing and they're joking baba why don't you just say
[43:10]the names of who you're talking about and stop making fun and
[43:15]joking just discuss what happened say that this is your opinion this
[43:19]is mine if you respect someone who made fun of the prophet
[43:21]or who insulted the prophet up to you but i personally that's
[43:27]not someone i revere therefore when now we do that if we
[43:31]discuss the first three or we discuss early islamic history on the
[43:34]one hand what do we have some people will say but people
[43:37]will get killed if you do that people even they said to
[43:42]me that are you not scared of for example getting killed by
[43:46]discussing such topics first you know al-motlana death for us is a
[43:51]norm and that a person shouldn't necessarily be scared but also secondly
[43:55]there's a difference between these things scholarly and then making fun of
[44:01]people in that particular region if you're gonna make fun of them
[44:03]you don't need me to give lectures you're making fun of them
[44:07]for one hour of them for one hour waiting for to come
[44:12]back from the crowd that causes more trouble than a person who
[44:16]takes some of these topics and discusses them in the right manner
[44:20]without being insulting problem is even if you do discuss these what's
[44:27]the next accusation they put on you british shia british shia cia
[44:36]your cia mi6 mi5 mi4 am i i don't know how many
[44:44]mis there are you're cia you're british shia why this is one
[44:51]of the biggest oppressions ever done that any time a person discussed
[44:55]islamic history or the narrative of the shia straight away they were
[45:03]labeled british shia us the british shia have lived in britain for
[45:06]way longer than others who came onto the scene who you may
[45:11]be referring to when you say british shia some of us lived
[45:15]in britain since the 70s some of us since the eighties there
[45:17]are people who are british shia who looked after to shay you're
[45:23]better than some people who are living in muslim countries and imam
[45:28]bhargas are in britain any time now someone emerges on the mamba
[45:32]who's from britain they paint him british shia baba british shia you
[45:38]have an issue with a particular personality who may be seen as
[45:41]a british shia say his name and cut the rest of us
[45:47]out otherwise don't label every speaker here in front of me i
[45:51]see speaker sheikh noor you're counted although your ghanaian may allah bless
[45:53]you but i know you'll find your way to getting a british
[45:59]passport sheikh noor gan sitting here in front of us he's british
[46:03]shia but he's been in shia in britain for a long time
[46:08]everybody's labeled under the brush why because when they sit on the
[46:14]mamba and they discuss some of these issues automatically then the person
[46:19]is labeled as a british shia and further than that they say
[46:23]that these speakers and i have to reply to each of these
[46:25]comments they say that each of these speakers or these speakers generally
[46:28]these are speakers who are sectarian what is sectarian sectarian means we
[46:36]discuss the volume against fatima it is sectarian no problem but every
[46:43]shia speaker has discussed this issue so why don't you label everybody
[46:47]who has ever done a fatah mia sectarian even sheikh halwa ali
[46:52]has poetry lines which a person if they want to conclude sectarian
[46:55]but those who understand arabic poetry will understand and those who don't
[47:00]understand you just sit there and you say subhanallah without recognizing but
[47:04]within his poetry it could be taken a sectarian just because a
[47:09]person discusses these issues you can't paint them as sectarian and everybody
[47:12]else who discusses them is not there's one mosque in london for
[47:18]example they say a speaker who openly talks about the first three
[47:23]caliphs that speaker is sectarian but then every speaker you've invited has
[47:27]discussed those caliphs then why is not every single speaker seen a
[47:31]sectarian the point being what the point being that we return to
[47:36]an issue and that is we follow the guidelines of our raja
[47:39]what comes from the mumbai as long as what to please allah
[47:45]subhanahu wa and reward hopefully for those who are listening that's number
[47:49]one number two the filtering system how can we filter who sits
[47:52]on number you can't you can't you can't filter who sits the
[47:59]only way you can filter is in your respective mosque your respective
[48:03]mosque may filter who sits up here who doesn't otherwise there's no
[48:07]filtering system i'll give you an example there are some people who
[48:11]sit on mumbai today the only reason they're sitting on mumbai and
[48:14]they're doing islamic work is because they were high school dropouts that's
[48:19]it they couldn't make it in high school they thought you know
[48:23]what let's make a path where we dress religiously we maybe wear
[48:27]the dress and now they sit on mumbar hussein believe you me
[48:32]the person has no interest in service except that this is a
[48:36]career for them it's a career there was no other career so
[48:39]they found that i'm a high school dropout i'm not going to
[48:43]get a job anywhere let me go to um or let me
[48:46]go to njef and i'll go there and then i come to
[48:47]the people and i give him a chance can i filter that
[48:52]person i can't in reality that person ends up sitting on the
[48:57]mamba and what was their whole vision or perspective sitting here that
[49:01]they were a high school drop out nothing more and nothing less
[49:05]there are others who for example recognize that they may have a
[49:08]nice voice and they end up sitting here doesn't mean they're insincere
[49:13]maybe they recognize that they could be a good zerker but can
[49:17]you for example say that anyone who sits on mumbai hussein has
[49:21]been filtered completely you cannot number three not everybody who sits on
[49:26]mumbai has the same perspective but then how are fallibles meant to
[49:30]judge other fallibles about what is real to you what's real to
[49:39]you imam okay i believe in these three now when i come
[49:48]on the mumbai i'm a fallible i'm talking to fallibles if i
[49:50]be very real with you about this if i'm a fallible talking
[49:55]to other fallibles then when i'm talking to you i have my
[49:59]perspective of the world for example i give you my perspective someone
[50:04]else has this can you come and say that my perspective of
[50:06]the world is wrong and yours is right because we have people
[50:10]who sit on the member who believe that them and their family
[50:12]are the only ones guided by allah subhanahu wa ta'ala there are
[50:18]some who sit on the mumbai everybody is wrong but them everyone's
[50:22]a heretic but them everyone's a deviant but them everybody is one
[50:29]but them every speaker is wrong except them they have come as
[50:33]allah's police on the earth and the inconsistencies in their legacy of
[50:42]who sits on their mamba and who doesn't people with the worst
[50:47]reputations they put on there because they're their cousins or they're their
[50:53]family members worst reputations ever with closets full of cobwebs and so
[50:57]on they put them on there others who have never studied not
[51:00]a day in the house they put them on the mamba why
[51:03]i thought you said that you have to study and how is
[51:07]it just a tournament how come someone who maybe shoots you as
[51:10]someone you put on the mumbai or you need to look after
[51:14]their interests is someone you put on them in other words what
[51:16]i mean is that even those who sit on the mambar do
[51:21]not be fooled by the fact that all of them are in
[51:22]unison with the same niyyah or that all of them are consistent
[51:27]or have the same opinion and nor should we i may differ
[51:33]and we may differ with each other but if our ear is
[51:37]sincere and that is the near to get closer to the sakalen
[51:41]that's ultimately how an ear i sit on the mumbach get closer
[51:46]not to make sure my family's name is raised how many times
[51:50]you see people who sit on the member the most infallible people
[51:54]is not 14 and you have to include their family and infallibility
[51:58]as well that their family are muslim becomes what my family versus
[52:03]the world everybody is deviant except us and that is a reality
[52:07]and it exists and it's there so therefore can we filter who
[52:11]sits on that mumbai no can we say that everybody has to
[52:16]have the same opinion no ultimately even further than that can we
[52:19]remove superstition and stories which are fairy tales on the mumbai no
[52:24]you can't i've seen people have studied in from seven eight years
[52:28]half their majorities are dreams seven eight years in half the magellan's
[52:34]dreams did this and i to allah did this and you saw
[52:42]this room and allah i don't doubt that there are some great
[52:44]maharaja who have seen great things and there have been quran but
[52:48]some of it is like you know what give substance for the
[52:52]love of allah subhanahu wa any dream of the dream of the
[52:54]dream of the dream there has to be a point when for
[52:57]example a person but what do you do can you stop that
[53:01]person you can't what can you do is you can come and
[53:03]you can advise that person you could say to that person for
[53:07]example that try and lean back towards the original literature and the
[53:12]original text further than that can everybody for example when they sit
[53:16]on mumbai can they all be perfect ah this is important as
[53:23]well because now those who sit on mumbai i could argue there
[53:25]is even more pressure on them why because of social media i
[53:32]remember honestly this happened just about a week ago someone called me
[53:35]and said say didn't that did you drink champagne i said what
[53:39]am i talking about he said i promise you someone says that
[53:42]you went away with a famous boxer and you were drinking champagne
[53:46]i said really really and we've reached that level he says but
[53:50]sadina the glass looks really like champion you can't have apple juice
[53:53]in a glass you can't have grape juice in the glass salisbury
[53:58]still this dad i said well there's no more that i can
[54:02]answer you if you believe someone who sits on the member of
[54:05]imam al qasam can go but the reality is as well that
[54:08]we live at a time where everybody's scrutinizing looking for black dots
[54:14]on our lives i cannot hide from that by the same time
[54:16]you have to be aware of those who are trying to cause
[54:20]trouble between us as well that there are people who actively are
[54:23]going around looking to bring people on the member down they're looking
[54:26]to find because you know you see a white piece of paper
[54:29]there's a black job the human says why is there a black
[54:31]dot well the whole paper is white but if they see it
[54:35]like but still the onus is on people like us that we
[54:37]have to ask ourselves the question where the mumbai has developed that
[54:40]some of us now i see shaykh shaykh ali walking around taking
[54:46]selfies they have instagram followers they have people who come and say
[54:50]salaam to them people who want their autographs i asked you 20
[54:52]years ago would you ever go to a maulan and say can
[54:55]you take a selfie with me would you ever go to someone
[54:59]who sat on the mumbai and say to them can i have
[55:00]your autograph would it happen 20 years ago no it wouldn't but
[55:04]now one may argue in one way alhamdulillah that people look at
[55:08]those who sit on them and say i want to relate to
[55:11]them i like them i follow them it's better than having a
[55:16]pop star right sometimes you see people saying say it now my
[55:19]kids they love this music and they don't leave it but then
[55:21]when they come to the mawlana to take a selfie and say
[55:24]why is the moonlight take a selfie with them so let them
[55:25]go to the pop star then reality is that even the position
[55:31]of the mawlana the position of the mamba has even changed so
[55:35]dramatically that now one may argue it's a new world even for
[55:38]those sitting on there if it's a new world does that mean
[55:41]we come and try and bash those who are in that world
[55:44]because it's unfortunate in our mosques where you find that people just
[55:49]want to fight each other over those who sit on hussain instead
[55:53]of supporting and defending and helping that word continue to spread far
[55:58]and wide by the same time there comes a reality and what
[56:01]is it that this mumbai and the same way it involved from
[56:05]rasulullah to hussain to poetry to no to martha there might also
[56:12]come a time where the mumbai moves for example number one we
[56:16]can move from a world of monologue to a world of dialogue
[56:20]as well it may come a time where a person has a
[56:22]dialogue with their crowd a question and answer session after the lecture
[56:26]with the crowd or after the medalist the world may move in
[56:29]that direction why not but also further than that what's important my
[56:33]dear brothers and sisters is that the mumbai is only a source
[56:38]of reminder for us please understand this point at the moment the
[56:42]way the world is heading with education mumbai is only a reminder
[56:45]we only come 10 nights 20 nights 30 nights 40 nights a
[56:49]year what's needed in our communities is a supplement to the mumbai
[56:53]we need courses in theology in our local imam barga how many
[56:59]people have opened the works of theology within our communities mamba is
[57:03]not going to open for you our communities have to supplement the
[57:11]likewise in the world not just of theology in the world of
[57:16]tafsir as well there needs to be courses and there needs to
[57:19]be these courses that supplement why because the challenges for us on
[57:23]the mumbai now are not challenges that can be met only by
[57:28]a monologue there needs to be dialogue social media has to be
[57:31]used look therefore where the evolution of muhammad al-hussein has come to
[57:33]subhanallah today that from where it begun where it begun with al
[57:41]muhammad and this begins the final question and muhammad did they ever
[57:46]have did they ever have lectures which were sectarian or no al
[57:51]muhammad ali did they ever have lectures where they discussed sensitive issues
[57:58]or was the fact that al-muhammad only had lectures which discussed for
[58:04]example or discussed have seen the quran and that was it they
[58:07]went nothing further than that the reality is that themselves they had
[58:12]lectures which today people if they heard them they would say why
[58:18]are you discussing this sectarian issues why not bring unity between the
[58:21]muslims isn't that what we always hear we are not against unity
[58:24]between the muslims on the country we want the muslims to sit
[58:26]together but i have my narrative you have yours i you want
[58:32]to say for example that abu talib is a i disagree with
[58:38]you but it's your books your narrative you could say what you
[58:40]want i have no problem with your narrative you cannot bully me
[58:47]into not saying mine therefore imam ali ever have a sectarian type
[58:53]lecture so what was shock chakra here then sermon three of najib
[59:02]when he talks about those caliphs who came before him imam doesn't
[59:07]curse or insult imam says by allah the son of abu kahf
[59:12]addressed himself with the khalafar and he knew my position in relation
[59:20]to it was like the position of the axis in relation to
[59:22]the windmill and then he began to talk about those who milked
[59:25]the others of the khilafah and how trials and innovation and tribulation
[59:31]came to islam and then about how they said become one of
[59:35]six for he said when was there a doubt about me being
[59:37]the first now they want to make me the third imam discuss
[59:42]this why does no one call it which they today would have
[60:28]called sectarian the reality is they weren't sectarian they were when haqq
[60:32]spoke out against battle they were when takabur al-al-muttaqabbar became ibadah that
[60:40]is when arrogance against the arrogance became worship that when the imams
[60:45]began to speak out when imam al-hussein said to ayesha the wife
[60:50]of the prophet on the janaz of imam al-hasan your father and
[60:53]his fa-rook are the ones who brought trouble to the religion of
[60:56]islam why does no one mention these only when ahmad and others
[61:02]begin to talk about these we are the ones who are sectarian
[61:08]but when in the lives of the imams they talk about those
[61:10]who oppressed al muhammad who you serve the rights of allah muhammad
[61:16]i ask you was there anyone more strong when it came to
[61:19]speaking out then father lost her life at 18 because she spoke
[61:26]out not just lost her life lost her rib for speaking out
[61:29]not just lost her rib lost her baby for speaking out why
[61:35]don't you ever mention fatama speaking out when you want to talk
[61:39]about ah albeit it suits you to say insanity because it suits
[61:42]you not the man hedge i can appreciate if there are people
[61:47]who live in parts of the world where they face oppression they
[61:49]don't talk about these i appreciate i respect if someone is living
[61:52]in a part of the world where they cannot talk about these
[61:53]things i respect that one lie i'm not against it but when
[61:59]i live in london in 2021 and i want to finally breathe
[62:04]when talking about our grandmother taught us the meaning of speaking our
[62:24]grandmother didn't speak for herself that's not her she spoke for nobu
[62:31]and imam she could see what's happened at sarifa she spoke out
[62:35]and she knew in speaking out that it would result in her
[62:41]having four orphans in the house instead of her saying that you
[62:48]know what let's have peace and unity and let's not talk no
[62:52]chance how dare you treat abel hassan in this way you take
[62:57]his leadership and his right after everything that he had done for
[63:01]the religion of islam and you come and talk to him like
[63:09]that that lady who spoke out it's surprise does not surprise me
[63:12]that her daughter did the same in sham on a night like
[63:14]this allah that her daughter did the same inshallah i ask you
[63:23]zainab when she spoke to yazeed what was it soft-hearted and zainab
[63:28]literally told yazid you are shaytan from the line of shaytan if
[63:33]saying that islam said that today the shia i'll be like say
[63:36]the zainab please don't talk don't say the same is like why
[63:39]i will talk and i will talk with akhlaq on the issue
[63:43]but haka's help in the same way the quran says likewise there's
[63:51]a time to talk about the rest of the sons of and
[63:57]that's why she came in front of him and when she came
[63:59]in front of him she made it clear to him all praise
[64:02]is due to allah master of all the worlds peace and blessings
[64:07]beyond his prophet allah was right when he said evil will be
[64:10]the end for those who committed evil because they rejected our communications
[64:15]and used to mock them oh yes do you think god has
[64:19]made you honorable and made us contemptible now that in your belief
[64:23]you've blocked the earth zones and the heavens horizons and have left
[64:29]no solution for us do you think your reputation before allah is
[64:33]what has led you to victory you crawl with pleasure now that
[64:38]the world has turned for you our affairs are allocated to you
[64:41]and our government has arranged for you get off your high horse
[64:46]have you not read in the quran oh yazid let not those
[64:52]who disbelieve think that our granting them a long life is good
[64:55]for their souls we grant them long life so they may add
[64:58]to their sins and for them there's a painful chastisement oh yes
[65:04]eid oh you whose father was freed by my grandfather is it
[65:09]fair that you place your wives behind the curtain while the daughters
[65:12]of rasool allah have nothing to cover them may allah bless all
[65:18]the daughters of father and zainab in the crowd tonight and all
[65:22]the lovers of father man zainab only allah knows the way they
[65:29]dragged those scarves of the daughters of fatima only allah knows the
[65:33]pulling of the earrings from the children of hussein and what they
[65:38]did to the family oh yazid you place your wives behind the
[65:40]curtain while you take the daughters of rasulullah from city to city
[65:48]as captives you disgrace us by unveiling our faces unveiling your faces
[65:53]one way but how about an injured face allah you unveil our
[65:58]faces so all can see us from the stranger to the acquaintance
[66:02]from the noble to the ignoble while there is none to defend
[66:09]us how can i hope for sympathy and compassion from someone whose
[66:11]grandmother chewed the liver of the noble allah i ask you look
[66:18]at zaynabil hold back her words she doesn't but does she say
[66:24]it with eloquence she does in a scholastic fashion she continued with
[66:28]the lines until she said to yazid although the plight has made
[66:32]me speak to you this is a huge line now because this
[66:37]is a line of a lady who's making it clear i am
[66:43]the son i'm the daughter of a man who spoke out against
[66:46]although the plight has made me speak to you yes i find
[66:52]speaking to you of little value but i find scolding you great
[66:56]how ironic it is that the members of the party of allah
[67:02]are killed by the members of the party of shail that line
[67:08]is that not a line of sectarianism by zainab how could you
[67:13]call other muslims the party of shaytan this will bring you a
[67:19]slap she'll say i've already been slacked there are many of you
[67:24]i know you wish you were in sham tonight don't you how
[67:26]many of you miss sham this is your night how many of
[67:30]you wish you were by the grave of zayn of allah picture
[67:35]that grave those of you who have been she said that's what
[67:38]oh zainab if you say that they'll slap you but i've already
[67:42]been slapped they might whip you zainab i've already been whipped they
[67:47]might chain you zainab i've already been changed you might lose family
[67:54]i lost town and muhammad which we honor were the most difficult
[68:06]ones they were on the ground on the floor near zed's palace
[68:11]chained to each other i ask you so cain as neck how
[68:14]is it chained to the rest of the ladies these ladies all
[68:20]of them were together they were all on the on the floor
[68:23]yes he that asked all the officials come and look at what
[68:27]i have even one of them said give me that young girl
[68:30]there give me her that young girl held on to her auntie
[68:33]saying the narrations mentioned that yazid at the time was married to
[68:40]a lady by the name of hind yes this lady when she
[68:44]was younger she used to be in medina in the house of
[68:48]imam ali alaihis she served in that house and then she served
[68:52]where she served in the house of imam al-hasan after imam al-hasan
[68:59]died muawiyah forced her to marry yazid alongside her brothers forcing her
[69:03]so this lady hinned where was she this lady was now the
[69:07]wife of yazid she was in her quarters her servant came towards
[69:13]her take your heart tonight to shame i beg you her servant
[69:17]came towards her she said to her madam she said yes she
[69:22]said get ready dress in your finals she said why she said
[69:24]because there's a parade a parade of who said a parade of
[69:30]rebels a parade of prisoners a parade of captives she said and
[69:35]where have they been coming from she said a place called carabella
[69:40]all of us are in carabella tonight said a place called carabella
[69:47]she said very well i'll get changed something wrong in her ears
[69:52]about karbala where have i heard this name before but for a
[69:56]lady who's lived in medina and the house of ali she would
[70:00]know the name but she got changed she got ready where did
[70:02]she come she sat on a mamba she sat there she was
[70:09]on the number where was zainab on the floor zayn have changed
[70:27]you recognize that lady there the uncle thumb looked towards say it
[70:33]she said too i don't who is she she said to her
[70:38]do you remember when we were younger in medina hindu used to
[70:40]serve in our house allah sitting on her throne look towards the
[70:54]ladies of khalif there be a talib talking to each other she
[71:01]looked towards saying that lay her set up and she asked her
[71:08]oh lady o lady where are you from i want you all
[71:16]to think of one thing how much had zainab's face changed allahu
[71:23]akbar that she couldn't even recognize she looked towards her she said
[71:34]where are you ladies from a broken voice replied we are from
[71:45]medina how many of you wish to return to medina my dear
[71:55]brothers and sisters you know what she did she got off the
[72:07]mamba she got up she sat on the ground she sat on
[72:10]the floor at that moment she looked towards them saying upset why
[72:17]do you sit on the floor she said out of respect she
[72:29]sent out of respect for the people of medina [Music] when i
[72:36]was younger i used to serve in a house in medina allah
[72:43]with these tears with these tears imagine your mother father crying ladies
[72:53]the lady may be with you now she's sent out of respect
[73:02]for the people of medina when i was younger i used to
[73:04]serve in a house in medina she looked towards saying that saying
[73:09]that she said may i ask you about the house i don't
[73:13]know if you know it or you don't she doesn't scream out
[73:24]and say of course i know it she says go ahead ask
[73:28]me i'll try and tell you she said i used to be
[73:32]in the do you know the members of that house she said
[73:38]yes i know the members of that house she said may i
[73:42]ask you about them may i ask you about some of the
[73:52]members of the hotel she said tell me tell me about herbalife
[73:55][Applause] how many of us missed about a father for a couple
[74:14]of years imagine the sister of abel say this said you asked
[74:24]me about this love that may i ask you about another member
[74:41]of that house you said tell me [Laughter] tell me tell me
[75:08]foreign my [Music] is she had always been used to abbas and
[76:05]hussain protecting the poets give the reply if you ask me about
[76:29]saying i don't know where she is she doesn't know because what's
[76:35]sure to say that if you've ever been a stranger in a
[76:45]town you'll say i don't know where i am i'm so used
[76:49]to my brother abbas next to me if you ask me about
[76:57]say the bill hashemi i don't know where she is but if
[77:01]you ask me about say that if you ask me about setting
[77:10]up the captive then i am
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