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[0:27]i welcome you to our discussion tonight and i also congratulate you
[0:32]all on the arrival of the month of the which is the
[0:40]12th month in the islamic lunar calendar every year during these days
[0:44]we hear about the millions of hajjaj and pilgrims who go to
[0:50]the hajj but unfortunately there is no hajj season this year due
[0:55]to the situation and this is a trial that humanity is going
[1:02]through but we have many beautiful events in this month of the
[1:07]hijab two days ago we celebrated the anniversary of the marriage of
[1:12]imam ali alayhi salaam to lady fatima next week we have the
[1:18]day of arafah the day of adel abha on the 18th of
[1:22]the year we will celebrate adelgadir so it's a wonderful and beautiful
[1:30]month there are many good amal that you should not miss one
[1:33]of them is between maghrib and there's a prayer that's prayed the
[1:38]first ten nights of the hajjan and the one who makes this
[1:45]prayer it's just two raka's after surat al-fatiha and surat you recite
[1:55]this verse that starts with musa the one who offers the salah
[2:01]this prayer shall receive the edger of those who go to hajj
[2:07]of those who are at the hajj one of my friends commented
[2:11]this year he's like say there's no one at the hajj this
[2:14]year so are we going to get any reward for this prayer
[2:16]remember billions of angels they go and they circulate around the hajj
[2:20]we have these that tell us the imam of our time he
[2:24]makes it to every hajj season and that's sufficient for us if
[2:31]allah gives us the reward that he gives to his hajja on
[2:33]earth that's sufficient for us so i congratulate you on the arrival
[2:38]of this beautiful month may allah protect you and your families in
[2:44]this month our discussion tonight my dear brothers and sisters is gender
[2:49]roles in islam we received a few suggestions on our social media
[2:58]websites for instance on instagram and i always encourage you there are
[3:01]topics we'd love to discuss you'd like to hear about you can
[3:05]always reach us through our social media websites and give us your
[3:11]suggestions give us your recommendations and so some of the questions that
[3:17]we received some of the suggestions when it comes to gender roles
[3:21]are the following and i'd like to have a discussion with you
[3:25]tonight around these points so first of all what is the islamic
[3:30]perspective on genders how many genders do we have how many genders
[3:36]does islam recognize this is a very important discussion these days number
[3:42]two does islam recommend the division of gender roles or no we
[3:51]should figure that out and we leave it up to society to
[3:55]figure out everything or does islam actually recommend to us to divide
[4:00]the roles when it comes to genders number three one of the
[4:05]suggestions that we received is to talk about the double standards that
[4:10]we have in many of our communities when it comes to the
[4:15]boys and the girls how some families are tolerant if their boys
[4:20]do certain things but maybe not from the girls how do we
[4:26]address visible standards and finally one of the recommendations that we got
[4:30]is also to discuss meeting one another on social media so let's
[4:38]say you're looking for a potential spouse is social media the appropriate
[4:41]place so inshallah tonight we will have a discussion it will not
[4:46]be an official lecture but i would like you to participate and
[4:50]let's make this as interactive as possible inshallah and we'll begin with
[4:55]a very loud salah let's address the first fundamental point what does
[5:05]the holy quran say about genders how many genders do we have
[5:11]today when you're at the college campus what are you being told
[5:16]let's hear a response from the sisters when it comes to gender
[5:20]very briefly what are they saying out there today they want us
[5:26]to believe that yes infinite right there is no limit on the
[5:29]number of genders guys what have you been hearing about genders 47
[5:35]it's going up right so it's officially at 47 now it's on
[5:42]a spectrum it's you don't have that clearly defined binary male or
[5:51]female no we have more of a spectrum and you can fall
[5:54]anywhere on that spectrum it's so big it has 47 points right
[5:58]on the spectrum what else have you been hearing about genders so
[6:05]each yes is born with a sex and that's related to the
[6:09]biological aspect but there's your thunder and that's how you identify and
[6:14]they're they're separate well they can be related and so your freedom
[6:19]choose what gender you want to ascribe [Music] very well said so
[6:28]today we're being told that this binary of male and female is
[6:32]a traditional conception today we recognize that we have what's called gender
[6:37]and we have what's called sex the sex refers to your biological
[6:45]makeup how you were born yes that's male or female however when
[6:49]it comes to the gender it's how society constructs it the expectation
[6:55]of society when it comes to your biology that's what we call
[6:59]gender and so they're saying historically it was basically two but we
[7:04]don't have to limit it to that why are we limiting it
[7:08]to two let people choose their gender identity give them that flexibility
[7:13]give them that freedom and i'll be very honest with you today
[7:17]there is a lot of pressure on religious communities to embrace this
[7:22]idea to approve of it to support condolence so let's start with
[7:29]the holy quran what does allah subhanahu ta'ala comment about the genders
[7:33]or sexes in the holy quran we have two verses that clearly
[7:36]tell us how many genders there are any idea if you don't
[7:43]know the exact arabic you can roughly code it yes yes that's
[7:50]the verse so we have two verses one is verse 45 the
[8:10]two genders the two sexes the male and the female in sura
[8:18]states talks about the process of creation and then he says therefore
[8:32]he made from that process of creation he made it into male
[8:38]and female so we find that the religion of islam does recommend
[8:43]this binary that biologically allah subhanahu ta'ala has created two forms they
[8:49]may be ambiguous forms right some people may be born in an
[8:55]ambiguous state and islam does have a recommendation i have to address
[9:00]that ambiguity but the holy quran is very clear that we have
[9:03]adequate the male and the female and therefore the religion of islam
[9:09]comes here and tells us that if you want to have a
[9:11]successful life with less confusion with less of an identity crisis you
[9:22]have this binary this binary is the most efficient way of life
[9:28]that we have i'd like to discuss this point with you so
[9:31]today they're saying no it's a spectrum don't limit genders to two
[9:38]some say 20 30 47 or some say it's infinite don't limit
[9:42]it what is one serious consequence of not limiting gender to two
[9:48]let's look at the pros and cons what are some consequences that
[9:53]you're familiar with or you can think of when it comes to
[9:57]allowing people in society to choose their gender to construct their gender
[10:04]yes sister yes no reproduction okay so one of the consequences let's
[10:14]say people will marry someone from the same gender that would you
[10:18]know limit the reproduction and allah created us here on earth for
[10:24]a purpose and part of that is to raise an offspring so
[10:28]that would be impacted what else think of the psychological consequences of
[10:35]allowing people in society or encouraging them to come up with any
[10:40]gender that they like what are some of these psychological consequences yes
[10:57]it causes people to be extremely insecure that's a very good point
[11:05]why does it cause insecurity you're denying that which is reality what
[11:13]else see choosing an identity when it comes to the genders creates
[11:20]a lot of stress and confusion one of the reasons why there
[11:29]is so much you know depression anxiety today amongst our younger generation
[11:36]and today the biggest killer amongst our younger generation is what depression
[11:41]and suicide it's on the rise now there are many factors that
[11:46]but one of the factors is that the young gender in the
[11:50]real world you go to college you go to school you have
[11:52]to start choosing your gender okay now let's say somebody is trying
[11:57]to choose where do i start from how do i even think
[12:01]of myself that creates a lot of confusion sometimes when something is
[12:10]simple it's a binary it actually psychologically helps you you can function
[12:16]better you can function properly gender identity is not an area that
[12:22]islam recommends you to choose to go and explore and figure out
[12:27]for yourself because you may be experimenting you think it's not think
[12:31]it's cool maybe you think it works for you but are you
[12:34]aware of the consequences the psychological consequences the emotional consequences it creates
[12:40]so much confusion it leads to an identity crisis and our generation
[12:47]today is actually experiencing this identity crisis that's one of the consequences
[12:52]and that's why there's a lot of insecurity there is a lot
[12:59]of insecurity that is one of the consequences what else any other
[13:04]ideas experiences you've seen on college campus other areas what are some
[13:10]negative consequences you've seen when the young generation is just choosing whatever
[13:14]gender identity they want remember in this discussion my dear brothers and
[13:20]sisters we're not judging anyone we're not putting anyone down we're just
[13:24]having a discussion on the pros and the cons on the consequences
[13:30]yes sister uh alia can you give her the microphone so we
[13:44]can all hear can you guys just raise your hand for a
[13:46]second um if basically if you start excusing uh different genders and
[13:52]saying this is the type of thing that are just either attracted
[13:55]to you should accept them for who they are you could easily
[13:57]start accepting ideas like pedophilia and assessing this is who they're attracted
[14:01]we should accept them there was a big argument about including pedophilia
[14:05]and lgbtq plus model because this is who they're attracted to their
[14:11]kind of person so you start giving leeway to these actions that's
[14:16]a very good observation another consequence here is that where do you
[14:22]draw the line i'm sure you're familiar with this argument right when
[14:26]you let society come up with these moral values with all these
[14:31]identities where do you draw the line what's acceptable and what's not
[14:36]acceptable if society is determining that for me how do i trust
[14:43]society when society is ever changing can i intellectually allow my society
[14:47]to define for me moral values society is ever changing 50 years
[14:55]ago here in america homosexuality was considered a disease officially today many
[15:01]people condone it many national organizations the psychological organization no says it's
[15:09]completely normal it condones it well what's going to happen in the
[15:13]next 50 years during the time of the prophet sallallahu alaihi some
[15:16]arab tribes they put alive now when you tell them why no
[15:22]this is moral if the holy quran even describes how a husband
[15:26]would react when he's informed that he his wife just delivered a
[15:30]baby girl girl he feels shamed he goes into hiding and the
[15:36]quran condemned them for that how do you trust your society to
[15:41]define these moral values what's acceptable and what's not what if in
[15:44]the next 20 20 years 30 years 40 years many other types
[15:49]of lifestyles that we know are morally wrong and and lead to
[15:54]many negative consequences and to types of corruption people can come out
[15:58]and say no that's okay that's my identity give me that freedom
[16:04]there must be some structure in place because if there is no
[16:11]structure that leads to confusion and chaos and anything can be justified
[16:16]there's nothing that cannot be justified anything will be justified so that's
[16:19]another consequence another thoughts uh the sister in the back one of
[16:26]the brothers you also had something to say we'll hear from you
[16:35]about this um [Music] he's a parent um he put his child
[16:43]in a school in sweden they live in sweden that like doesn't
[16:46]have genders and he's like so scarred from the people that like
[16:50]reflects in his parenting and so the result was like he was
[16:53]pressuring his child so much not to conform to any gender that
[16:56]he wanted to have like a member of the community like he
[17:00]didn't want like someone who's confident in their gender like so the
[17:03]child they went and interviewed them in a video and then they
[17:08]asked them like and they noticed that like it was i don't
[17:11]even know the gender because it has like long hair and it
[17:13]wears like both male and female clothes so i don't know what
[17:18]it was and it just um he or she just seems very
[17:22]uncomfortable instead of liberated like they weren't like wow on everything they're
[17:26]like actually like their face becomes red and they don't like the
[17:31]topic so like i [Music] for them to be very uncomfortable you
[17:35]ask them if you're a boy or girl that's not like wow
[17:39]they're they're in a school where they have pink and blue lockers
[17:43]and nobody says he or she like to you you don't have
[17:45]a label you don't have a rooted sense of who you are
[17:47]so i think that parent just comes this far they're hurting their
[17:51]child because they have bad memories of the past and and they
[17:54]just want like an lgbtq child i feel like these ideas are
[17:59]so extreme now that's that's another consequence it does create confusion in
[18:06]security and and that's one perspective that we have as muslims when
[18:10]it comes to this topic the brother here has something to share
[18:14]with us yes earlier you said our game doesn't recommend that we
[18:27]make a choice on our agenda is it just a recommendation is
[18:31]it not appropriate okay that's a very good question so that's no
[18:37]notice how i worded it right that islam does not recommend now
[18:43]when it comes to practicing certain aspects of your orientation of course
[18:51]islam has clearly defined mind [Music] now if someone has this idea
[18:57]that i have a different gender let's say or i have i
[19:01]feel that i have these urges or this particular orientation as long
[19:06]as they don't practice on that it's not how i'm in and
[19:11]of itself so let's say someone is attracted to the same gender
[19:15]right but they're not practicing homosexuality as long as they're not practicing
[19:21]it they're not making an islamic violation when it comes to practicing
[19:25]it yes islam considers that sinful and that lifestyle is sinful so
[19:29]the action is sinful but not the identity itself because you raise
[19:33]a good point there are some people and we'll talk about what
[19:37]you know we we're trying to be objective so we talked about
[19:40]the cons let's also talk about the pros of you know having
[19:43]limited genders there are some people who will tell you i feel
[19:48]like i was born this way it's not like i chose my
[19:52]gender right or my orientation i feel like i was born this
[19:56]way you know as as i was becoming a teenager i started
[20:00]to have attraction for the same gender not for the opposite gender
[20:05]it was not my choice and i feel stuck and you've probably
[20:10]heard this phrase that they tell you you know i feel like
[20:15]i'm a man trapped in the body of a woman or vice
[20:17]versa so it's not something that i chose but it's just something
[20:25]that i feel is in me what do we respond to that
[20:29]having these feelings or urges or tendencies in and of itself is
[20:36]not i think people have to understand that because some teenagers they
[20:39]go through this experience and then they start developing anger at god
[20:44]and they start saying okay i feel like i'm creating this way
[20:48]it's not like i chose it and just because i feel that
[20:51]way or i have these urges or this orientation that means god
[20:55]is condemning me no as long as you don't practice those feelings
[21:00]and you don't take it into action then it's not haram now
[21:05]these people my dear brothers and sisters it's important for them to
[21:10]also understand and i'm sure you probably have friends who may fall
[21:16]in this category or the other friends who fall in this category
[21:18]it's important to tell them that this is a trial except that
[21:25]it's a trial and allah will help you through the trial some
[21:30]people claim i was born that way okay let's not go into
[21:35]the argument whether you know this is genetic or not let's say
[21:38]you are born that way it's a trial it's not an easy
[21:43]trial it's very difficult but it's a trial how many of you
[21:47]have seen babies are born with a disability or you know someone
[21:52]or you know babies like that exist right now we know we
[21:56]have a merciful lord allah and allah created us how do you
[22:00]make sense of a baby born with a disability life-long disability what
[22:05]do you make sense of that does that mean god is unjust
[22:08]allah is not merciful it's a trial [Music] yes they're born that
[22:29]way what are the alternatives for them right that's it they're stuck
[22:35]in the situation they have to marry someone from the opposite gender
[22:39]there is no alternative for them the first step starts by realizing
[22:43]that this is a trial it's a trial some people are tried
[22:47]with their you know with a disability that's a trial it doesn't
[22:53]mean allah is not merciful here allah is very merciful but this
[22:58]is this person's trial and through this trial this person rises and
[23:03]rises and is elevated by god allah will compensate this person realize
[23:07]that this is a trial now after realizing that this is a
[23:13]trial comes the second step trying to cope with this trial see
[23:17]if you're disabled the first thing you do is you try to
[23:23]cope with it you try to live in a functional way with
[23:25]that disability how many people you know have learning disabilities there are
[23:31]blind people right even blind people have a way of reading things
[23:35]what is it called braille right see that's a way to cope
[23:39]with your disability okay eyesight is a gift but my trial this
[23:45]person's trial is that they were born blind or they became blind
[23:48]it's a trial but that does that mean i shut down and
[23:53]just isolate and say i'm doomed no allah has given me the
[23:59]ability to cope with that disability use the intellect that you have
[24:03]in a society collectively and figure out a way for them to
[24:10]learn the same concept applies here such a person has to cope
[24:14]with this trial see we have physical needs we have emotional needs
[24:17]we have psychological needs now this person obviously you know according to
[24:25]islamic standards cannot live with a member of the same gender but
[24:29]the person says i have love needs i have emotional needs there
[24:33]are alternatives you can invest emotionally in other people around you in
[24:42]order for you to have this emotional need addressed yes it's maybe
[24:48]not how you exactly want it to be but it will help
[24:52]you cope for instance your parents your siblings your friends emotionally invest
[24:58]in them more form a stronger bond with those around you it
[25:03]allows you to cope with that difficulty this is just an example
[25:11]so realizing that this is a test this is a trial let's
[25:15]try to cope with the trial we don't condemn these people we
[25:21]don't come and dehumanize them no we tell them this is a
[25:24]trial and we're here to help you with this trial there are
[25:26]some alternatives when it comes to emotional needs psychonauts psychological needs even
[25:31]physical intimacy now i can't go into details but there are ways
[25:39]to cope and allah does help let's not forget divine guidance from
[25:44]allah so yes to go back to your point brother it's not
[25:50]that just islam recommending when it comes to actions yes islam does
[25:53]have clearly you know defined lies about lines about what's halal and
[26:00]what's haram yes brother here yes and then we'll we'll get to
[26:06]brother yours um to go back earlier when you said the negatives
[26:12]of what this can bring to our society on the campus i
[26:16]go to detroit mercy and i met for what i thought was
[26:21]a girl which was originally a male who got many physical surgeries
[26:24]to appear as a woman but was battle battling with some disease
[26:30]that was caused by all these surgeries and she or this person
[26:35]was telling me how she lost her family or he lost his
[26:39]family and um an almost poverty povertish a public state and is
[26:48]like constantly thinking of suicide because he's never accepted regardless of what
[26:52]this person may look like from the lung or claim to belong
[26:56]to and i feel like it just being a part of this
[27:00]community opens first to many of the negatives of our society that
[27:05]we see almost on a daily basis especially when you want to
[27:10]physically appear as something that you originally weren't so the person was
[27:13]basically not in a good state after going through that journey and
[27:17]going through all those surgeries yes brother so you talked about how
[27:24]a person is born can be born with a disability let's say
[27:30]for example someone that doesn't identify with their gender or for example
[27:34]um as homosexuals how they how they might say that they're born
[27:40]i feel like something that might arise though as a person um
[27:44]like a person's homosexual might speak that it's very unfortunate that someone's
[27:50]born with a disability however it's not something that was forbidden by
[27:54]the religion after they were born with him however they might say
[28:00]that i was born in something that is forbidden by the so
[28:04]so there's there's that difference there so how would you how would
[28:08]we address in terms of also that this is still a task
[28:11]very good observation here the mother is asking okay we mentioned the
[28:16]example of someone born with a disability now someone can come and
[28:19]say well that's not a good comparison here because someone who is
[28:25]born with a disability you know what is it that they are
[28:27]doing that could violate religious principles they're just having that disability whereas
[28:33]the person who's born you know let's say with homosexual tendencies their
[28:40]actions will be condemned by religion and so you have that difference
[28:49]there briefly the way i would respond to that is to say
[28:52]that we human beings are born with various tendencies look at our
[28:58]personality personality traits a lot of it is acquired but a lot
[29:05]of it is inherited some people are born naturally being angry people
[29:12]right short fused have you seen people like that even sitting kids
[29:16]like kids who grew up in the same household same parents same
[29:22]method of upbringing one of them is super calm the other one
[29:26]like uh like this fire in front of you here see these
[29:31]are tendencies now islam comes and says when you grow older and
[29:36]you have a sense of awareness and you're responsible control your anger
[29:40]see islam is telling you what's right and what's wrong the person
[29:44]cannot well i have these angry tendencies so religions should say it's
[29:49]okay islam says that's your trial you were born with this tendency
[29:53]to be very angry to be aggressive and this is just one
[29:56]small example but your trial is to manage that anger so that
[30:03]would be my response that we are born sometimes with certain inclinations
[30:08]with dispositions but those dis dispositions are part of our trial so
[30:17]now my dear brothers and sisters having started this first point let's
[30:24]now transition to the next point in our discussion so islam says
[30:30]as zojan as the karwal male and female when we talk about
[30:37]gender roles in society what does islam recommend to us let's say
[30:43]you have a husband and a wife a father and a mother
[30:46]a brother and a sister we have these two genders is there
[30:52]a difference in their roles does islam have different expectations from them
[30:59]when it comes to their roles or no islam tells us just
[31:04]go and have one same role in society before we examine the
[31:10]islamic perspective let me first hear from you what is society saying
[31:13]today so let's say we have male female what is society telling
[31:19]you today when it comes to gender roles what is society advocating
[31:23]equality and what do they mean by equality there's no difference that's
[31:29]one thing we're hearing what else what else are you hearing when
[31:33]it comes to gender roles should men and women have different roles
[31:38]or they should have the same exact role what is society telling
[31:45]us today so even though we're biologically different but we could do
[32:00]you know everything if a woman can look a man cook both
[32:04]of them should cook if a woman can do a job that
[32:08]traditionally a man does then she should be able to do it
[32:12]and so there should be no division of gender roles how we
[32:15]have the division of labor there should no be there should not
[32:20]be any division when it comes to gender roles what else are
[32:22]we being told what are you hearing uh you know on campus
[32:27]by the way every few years there are new shifts right sometimes
[32:31]you know you'll hear that no there is no gender roles and
[32:36]we should even look and appear very similar right be dressed in
[32:41]a similar way and then several years later you find a pushback
[32:46]you know just the last few years you've seen a lot of
[32:50]guys at college campuses not muslims were talking about they're starting to
[32:54]grow beards right you've seen that trend whereas maybe 20 years ago
[32:58]this was not something probably welcome in in in public space but
[33:03]now there's a trend now there are reasons so what are you
[33:08]hearing these days when it comes to gender roles the generation in
[33:12]your age group what are they thinking about if you can speak
[33:18]into the mic they claim that the traditional roles on men throughout
[33:22]many ages is very toxic very sexist in which they are given
[33:26]all the power that's how they can give the roles right now
[33:34]they're also trying to convince like uh more let's say equality where
[33:40]where it is and same with females and anything a man can
[33:43]do a female continue that's what they're trying to explain yes that's
[33:47]one thing that we are commonly hearing that historically many societies have
[33:51]a patriarch patriarchal that i pronounce that correctly and that you know
[33:58]many societies have been misogynist as well and males usually exploit that
[34:05]power they take advantage of it and they treat women as second-class
[34:09]citizens yes that is one objection that we're hearing yes sister um
[34:20]i don't know if it's that common but i'm always feeling like
[34:23]traditional women even though they choose their lifestyle their shame a lot
[34:26]like people will choose to be like maybe more feminine old-fashioned they're
[34:31]like always pressured like why don't you be a feminist that's something
[34:34]that's very common yes there's a lot of pressure on women who
[34:39]would like to you know adopt a more traditional lifestyle there's a
[34:44]lot of pressure against them yes that's something that we're also witnessing
[34:48]so now let me ask you this question based on your understanding
[34:55]society what's your recommendation do you think there should be a difference
[34:59]when it comes to roles a division of roles or no we
[35:04]should eliminate any sort of difference meaning you shouldn't have any expectation
[35:09]about what a man should do and what a woman should do
[35:14]it should be uniform you should not have different expectations from men
[35:19]and women what do you guys say let's hear let's hear some
[35:24]responses and be honest we want to have an honest productive discussion
[35:27]let's start with the sisters do you do you think there should
[35:33]be some division of gender roles a husband and a wife a
[35:36]father and a mother or no it should be exactly the same
[35:57]okay that's that that's a fair comment here biologically we are different
[36:01]we can't do the same exact things biologically so maybe some things
[36:07]need to be different right any any other thoughts yes sister um
[36:16]i do agree that there is biological differences but i don't think
[36:19]that those biological differences should translate into differences the way you're treated
[36:24]in society um should be treated any different than a man in
[36:28]a job or in politics or in society and that's what society
[36:32]always targets um a woman's feet like that's targeted for women expect
[36:37]that she's a woman and that she should stay home and give
[36:39]birth and so he uses that biological like reasoning it is a
[36:44]good reasoning but other people take it and use it as continuing
[36:45]to tear a woman down so i do agree that like there
[36:52]is a difference but it shouldn't matter because you're not expected to
[36:56]take on a job so grand so those differences should not be
[37:00]a reason to deny women any opportunities okay that's that's fair uh
[37:06]the sister there well they're in my opinion through in the religious
[37:13]like lens there is a difference between a man and a woman
[37:18]listening to marriage because for example one big thing is like okay
[37:23]a man is supposed to provide for the family rather than a
[37:27]woman is not obligated to do so and there is no difference
[37:32]when it comes to okay who raises the kids who cleans the
[37:34]house who does one two three four that should be equally distributed
[37:38]to spouses but there is a fine line between islamically what can
[37:44]a man do what can women do what is the obligation of
[37:47]one gender in the religion and what is the obligation of the
[37:51]other um but socially we it confuses us to tell us no
[37:54]we could do one two three four just because a man can
[37:57]or a woman can't do this because of her gender or a
[38:01]man can't do this because of his gender they look down upon
[38:06]it but i feel like our lens should be more focused on
[38:09]what religion says one very good observation here is that if you
[38:16]look at you know the feminist movement while they've achieved a lot
[38:21]of progress in many areas if you really analyze this movement there
[38:26]is one setback for women in that movement and i'll share with
[38:34]you what that is and we'll let's have a discussion on this
[38:36]and if you disagree i'd like to hear your opinions about that
[38:41]oftentimes some feminist movements when they advocate for equality and fair treatment
[38:48]and equal treatment and they try to make the woman like the
[38:54]man okay why is it that women for instance should do this
[38:59]or wear this or go into that field is it because it's
[39:03]good for them it's healthy for them no no no just because
[39:06]men do it they have to do it that's problematic because when
[39:11]you when you advocate for this mindset essentially you're you're accepting man
[39:19]as the superior and so you're trying to make the woman like
[39:22]the man so you're accepting him as the standard islam rejects this
[39:27]islam does not consider the man as the standard and let's make
[39:31]the woman like the man islam says no the man you have
[39:38]your own independent standard the woman the female you have your own
[39:42]independent standard and i believe this is an area that islam beautifully
[39:48]protects the rights of women the dignity of women by not allowing
[39:58]society to constantly try to measure the woman against a man because
[40:02]when you do so indirectly you're expecting you're accepting man as the
[40:11]standard islam tells us allah has created us he's the manufacturer and
[40:15]we're the product he knows what's good for us you the woman
[40:18]you have your own independent standard no one can compare you to
[40:23]a man man you have your own standard in giving us two
[40:29]independent standards is protecting our honor and dignity and i find that
[40:34]beautiful in the religion of islam yes there are ignorant societies who
[40:39]misunderstand islamic recommendations islamic guidelines and obviously there's a lot of oppression
[40:46]i was once on the plane coming back from canada and this
[40:51]canadian lady had questions about islam so one of her objections was
[40:57]why does islam been woman from driving i told her i just
[41:02]i was curious where she had heard that right so i told
[41:06]i told her where does islam ban woman from driving are claiming
[41:09]that the quran bans women from driving she's like yeah at least
[41:14]that's what i've been told or what i've heard i told her
[41:18]you believe in that she's like i mean from from what i
[41:21]see i know she's going to some countries in the middle east
[41:24]yeah that that seems true i just asked her a question by
[41:29]the way she was a phd graduate you were not talking about
[41:37]somebody ignorant here no she had a phd i asked her the
[41:40]following question i told her can i ask you when do you
[41:44]think the quran was revealed or written she's like i don't really
[41:49]know but a long time ago i told her yes a very
[41:52]long time ago a thousand four hundred years ago i told her
[41:57]do you think there were vehicles and cars a thousand four hundred
[42:01]years ago for islam to even try to ban it like how
[42:05]does that even work she was dumbfounded shocked something very simple to
[42:13]you and to you and me but not the public society out
[42:17]there you see these misconceptions here in fact in fact ladies was
[42:24]the most beloved wife of prophet sallallahu alaihi the one whom he
[42:27]chose to start his family she was an independent woman she managed
[42:32]her own business the wealthiest woman in arabia that's big arabia did
[42:39]treat women as second-class citizens before islam yes that's true the prophet
[42:46]chose her as his wife what does that tell you about the
[42:50]prophet saw allah he wants women to be locked up in some
[42:52]house not doing anything not being productive isolated completely from society absolutely
[42:59]not if that was the case why did he marry khadija you
[43:00]could have married one of those women in mecca who was isolated
[43:06]she had caravans she had men working for her agents representing her
[43:12]that's ladies so islam is very big on this issue don't constantly
[43:21]try to compare one gender to another gender and thereby accepting the
[43:27]other gender as the standard as being superior that's an act of
[43:31]injustice that's the beauty of the religion of islam now having said
[43:37]that my dear brothers and sisters islam does have recommendations for us
[43:43]but not in all areas does islam impose something on us in
[43:47]a lot of areas islam says you work it out you husband
[43:52]and wife mom and dad work it out siblings work it out
[43:56]we just in the beginning we talked about the event two days
[44:01]ago the marriage in this beautiful hadith he uses a beautiful arabic
[44:09]word to describe how they made an agreement to manage house chores
[44:15]he says takasama those who are fluent in arabic what does takasama
[44:24]mean arabic is a beautiful language when you look at the grammar
[44:27]it's it's it's beautiful it's complex and beautiful what does the word
[44:33]mean it's one word but but if you want to say it
[44:38]in english you'll have to say a full sentence what does it
[44:43]mean okay so means they decided to share equally and it's in
[44:50]the dual form so two people when they decide mutually right consensually
[44:58]that let's agree i do this and you do that we call
[45:01]this an arabic they together decided to divide these house chores so
[45:22]that says lady fatima what did she choose she told him i
[45:28]will get the wheat grind the wheat make dough and bake bread
[45:33]what did he agree to do [Music] anyone knows the hadith what
[45:38]did imam ali to do in the house three things yes brother
[45:48]sweep the house ken's in arabic that's kids like you came out
[45:53]to sweep the floor you sleep the house the second one protect
[46:05]how like your bodyguard at the door yes protection let's let's see
[46:13]how the islam protected his his family so the other two things
[46:16]are to bring wood from outside so they could cook just like
[46:23]the wood that we have here right so the imam said i
[46:25]will go outside and bring it and he also accepted to bring
[46:30]water from the well it's a strenuous activity now imam assad didn't
[46:35]say that this was imposed on them the prophet came and told
[46:39]him you know alibnavit you have to do this my dear my
[46:45]daughter fatima you have to do that they agreed when it comes
[46:49]to your house and the house chores islam does not impose something
[46:53]on you and say okay men have to do this women have
[46:59]to do that no up to you you'll figure it out be
[47:01]good with one another live decently and you can figure that out
[47:06]but when it comes to some aspects like the burden of bringing
[47:12]food to the table of earning an income it's only fair to
[47:17]put that burden on the man the woman can work but she
[47:22]doesn't have to so islam when it comes to financial burden yes
[47:27]there is a division of gender roles the man is obligated to
[47:33]is obligated to does not have the option to stay at home
[47:36]and say i'm not going to work and provide for my family
[47:38]allah told him now that you're married you have a wife you
[47:42]have children it's your obligation do nobody a favor it's your obligation
[47:48]but islam does not impose that obligation on the woman why someone
[47:56]could say why didn't islam make this a shared responsibility 50 of
[48:00]the burden is on the man 50 of the burden is on
[48:05]the woman why physical limitings can you expand on that okay so
[48:13]back then there was a lot of lifting right so for you
[48:17]to lift a bucket of water from the strenuous it's not easy
[48:20]you've heard of the story of prophet musa alayhi salaam when he
[48:25]entered median after fleeing the pharaoh and you saw the two daughters
[48:29]of right the men over there they were gathering around the well
[48:34]and flexing their muscles and you know extracting all that water now
[48:37]these two girls they couldn't do that so he helped them out
[48:40]that's how he got to know them and got to know prophet
[48:44]tribe and he married one of them so yes historically working and
[48:51]making and bringing food to the table required a lot of physical
[48:54]uh effort and for islam to impose that on the female tell
[49:03]her you have to equally share with this responsible with the mill
[49:06]was not fair because brothers and sisters biologically were different men are
[49:11]not better biologically but they're different the biological makeup of our bodies
[49:17]on average it's different so islam imposed that obligation on men and
[49:24]did not impose the obligation on woman because if islam had done
[49:29]so that would have been unjust to the woman it would have
[49:34]been unfair to the woman so yes they work but they don't
[49:38]have to do the heavy physical activity that men have to do
[49:42]because remember like the sister said you know sometimes a woman can
[49:46]be going through pregnancy right she's pregnant so do you tell her
[49:50]go and lift this bucket of water that's 50 pounds that's not
[49:55]fair you're harming her you're harming the baby by imposing that on
[50:01]her but islam did impose this obligation on the men okay now
[50:03]you could argue say it why are you talking about 14 centuries
[50:07]ago today you go in the comfort of your own office you
[50:11]don't lift anything other than your pen and paper the heaviest thing
[50:15]you lift is probably your iphone so we're not talking about any
[50:19]physical difficulty right life has changed this is corporate america you can
[50:25]go and find a job in one of these corporations or all
[50:30]you have to do is you know make phone calls for your
[50:35]job remember islam says the wife is free to work as long
[50:38]as it doesn't conflict with other obligations but islam does not impose
[50:42]it on her why today you could say we live in a
[50:47]society where this should be equally shared islam still emphasizes this point
[50:52]that no the burden is on the map she can help out
[50:55]but the burden is on the man why is this fair and
[51:00]why and does science help us here in this regard be honest
[51:08]we're having an open discussion what do you think about this should
[51:12]men and women today share the financial burden equally like 50 50
[51:18]or no you are advocates of the burden being more on the
[51:22]men than the woman yes there is a social expectation that she
[51:25]should work that she should share part of the burden but should
[51:32]that burden be equal or the burden should be more on the
[51:38]man what will the sisters say i was gonna say it should
[51:45]be decided between the man and the woman but the husband and
[51:47]the wife because they don't know where their strengths lie and their
[51:51]weaknesses lie and that yeah the men should bring more because the
[51:55]god has investigation for whatever it may be but it should as
[51:58]you said there that the quran doesn't give anything for everything it
[52:00]does leave some decisions to be decided between okay so one suggestion
[52:14]is let them figure that out as long as they're okay with
[52:18]it they mutually come to an agreement let them find let them
[52:21]equally share it 50 50.
[52:22]any other responses i feel that there should be not necessarily like
[52:27]the head of the household person that decides everything of course everything
[52:31]should be discussed equally between the spouses but there could be the
[52:35]head of a household i put in quotation marks to where this
[52:38]person is the protector and the provider and provides support for the
[52:45]family because islamically women cannot be in certain settings they cannot go
[52:51]out and like just the idea of like the attraction or like
[52:55]women in certain arenas cannot be put in like certain public figures
[53:00]but a man can and because of their status that he has
[53:04]he should be the one that provides and protects for the family
[53:09]regardless of the woman working like she could still come and provide
[53:12]as well but he should bring more support so more of the
[53:17]burden should be on him basically so you you like you agree
[53:21]with that my dear brothers and sisters i'd like to share before
[53:25]we hear more responses some studies about this here in america women
[53:31]two to three times more than men i'm this is official statistics
[53:37]i'm not looking at numbers why do you think that is the
[53:45]case even if you look at northern europe where they are considered
[53:48]more egalitarian societies scandinavian societies a country like sweden or finland and
[53:54]you compare it to countries in southern europe that are considered a
[53:59]little bit more traditional like greece the psychological well-being and the happiness
[54:04]and the rates of depression amongst women in greece is higher than
[54:09]women in northern europe and scandinavia these are official statistics why do
[54:14]you think that is the case even though northern europe is more
[54:18]egalitarian yes because like even when you have working men and working
[54:28]women in society there's like okay there's a stereotype that men as
[54:32]long as they're working they need to be present as fathers like
[54:35]okay they're fulfilling their role but then women have to roles and
[54:38]constantly like okay you're expected not to be smart [Music] but you're
[54:43]you cannot be neglecting your role as a mother like if you're
[54:47]not doing both you're falling short of your expectations whereas men have
[54:50]always been that's a very good observation here and in a lot
[55:07]of western societies my dear brothers and sisters what has happened is
[55:12]that instead of bringing equality and allowing the men and women to
[55:17]share the burden what society has done right a lot of times
[55:23]is to increase the burden on women even to the point where
[55:29]a woman sometimes a wife a mother has to experience a greater
[55:33]burden than the man okay the guy has his career he was
[55:36]working eight hours a day so given that she's living in a
[55:41]society that's egalitarian she's expected to also work the same number of
[55:46]hours i'll also work eight hours a day okay when you look
[55:49]at the work hours you've solved it you've brought equality but then
[55:55]outside of work what's happening the woman is still the one who's
[55:59]the one going through pregnancy she you know has that greater responsibility
[56:04]and commitment when the child is born nursing the child all of
[56:09]that right basically one reason why these psychological disorders and the stress
[56:15]level is higher amongst women in america and a lot of european
[56:19]countries is because the burden has been increased on them they have
[56:22]to have four shifts three shifts the eight hour job is one
[56:30]shift there's two other shifts at home and then when it comes
[56:32]to your parents as well you know you have to uh shuffle
[56:36]around all these priorities and and i know a lot of it
[56:41]is the traditional mentality but that's just the reality out there a
[56:44]mother today she's working eight hours she's still more emotionally invested in
[56:49]her children and her parents are aging she's expected to be there
[56:56]for them more whereas the guy khalas he has his eight-hour job
[56:59]and then after that really there aren't that there's not that much
[57:06]expectation that's not fair so islam from day one says the burden
[57:10]is on you the man feel free to make an agreement where
[57:16]the wife helps you willingly not because she's pressured to and what
[57:22]i see today my dear brothers and sisters and this really disturbs
[57:25]me i'll be very honest with you there are sisters very active
[57:30]very educated but they realize that if i'd like to start my
[57:35]family i want to spend more time with my children be more
[57:37]committed as a mother who's a role model at home others around
[57:41]her look down on her she's not out there working eight hours
[57:45]for that career there are people in her own group women in
[57:50]her society who view her negatively ah you're backwards in your mentality
[57:54]that's not fair for you to impose that on her this will
[57:59]lead to a lot of stress and that leads to many types
[58:05]of psychological disorders that's why it's two to three times more here
[58:08]in america we have to understand that my dear brothers and sisters
[58:13]so my recommendation is if we want to understand this islamically yes
[58:16]it's the man's obligation to work full-time my recommendation is if the
[58:21]if there are children if the wife is a mother she can
[58:25]work part-time but why does he have to work full-time why i
[58:30]know society expects that from her but islamic islam says that's unfair
[58:35]don't put that pressure on her if she has that extra time
[58:39]fine that's her choice she can do that but don't make it
[58:43]an expectation that burdens her that's not fair this is what's happening
[58:51]in our societies and by the way this is mentioned in our
[58:55]hadiths that talk about the signs of the end of times in
[58:59]one hadith states and the woman will join her husband in business
[59:09]in the workforce now what is the meaning of the hadith it
[59:12]means that either the family obligations are abandoned islam has so much
[59:22]respect for motherhood that heaven that we all aspire to go to
[59:25]lies beneath the feet of who mothers see see the respect islam
[59:30]gives to others but in our society today no not not not
[59:33]that much career is more important some other aspects are more important
[59:38]other activities may be more important so islam the way i understand
[59:49]it is that the burden is on the man she's welcome to
[59:51]help if she can work part-time little work part-time but to pressure
[59:55]her to work more than that that would not be fair that's
[59:58]added stress that leads to negative consequences and subhanallah just look at
[60:03]the studies in europe look at northern europe egalitarian societies who think
[60:07]exactly what men are doing how come they're not happier than women
[60:10]in greece why not something's wrong something's not working and it's important
[60:17]to look at statistics yes any other yeah you had some observations
[60:26]brother going off of what you mentioned said and what some of
[60:34]the sisters mentioned so i think it's clear that the obligation um
[60:38]of providing for the families on the man and and that then
[60:42]the woman also has the choice um to share in that role
[60:47]but i think that and and that islam has much of it
[60:52]is to be kept between a husband and a wife to decide
[60:55]on how they want to split things but i think something that
[60:59]islam has done though is from a different angle accept certain societal
[61:07]and and family expectations or ideals so for example um for example
[61:13]if you want your child to be raised in a certain way
[61:16]so a big issue right now um comes to the cha uh
[61:19]uh many children they like attention from their parents and they lack
[61:24]a meeting of their emotional needs and this kind of goes um
[61:28]relates to the some of what we were talking about in the
[61:31]beginning about fulfilling those emotional needs that sometimes bring out um questions
[61:36]relating to a person's gender and all of that so i feel
[61:42]like these so this ideal in islam i'll fulfill the child's emotional
[61:47]need these cannot ideals cannot be fulfilled unless um different members of
[61:52]the family take on different roles and part of that is for
[61:55]example the mother um has a aggre of a greater role in
[62:00]giving that emotional need to the child and giving that attention to
[62:05]the child so though islam said that from my humble understanding that
[62:08]it's something to be discussed between the husband and wife and that
[62:13]um that's that the woman can work i think those are ideals
[62:19]though that need to be capped um in terms of me for
[62:21]example the child's emotional need and to be kept it does um
[62:26]call for for different for the husband or the wife to take
[62:31]on different specifically different duties or different priorities so like you mentioned
[62:34]for example working part-time to ensure that that emotional need because i
[62:39]feel bad also a lot of times i see um some sisters
[62:42]they go uh to work full-time and i understand that especially right
[62:47]now in the society living it's kind of hard to maintain a
[62:51]family um on one income unless of course you try to cut
[62:56]back on your spending um but at the same time so they
[62:59]work these nine or ten hours or whatever then they go home
[63:02]and they're exhausted because we see a man and a man is
[63:06]exhausted when he comes home and you don't blame them when you're
[63:11]working you know nine hours ten hours you will be exhausted definitely
[63:13]and then when they're exhausted then their child needs help with homework
[63:18]or their child needs attention or their child wants wants something from
[63:23]their mom so part of it is the male has the man
[63:25]has to come in and help but part of it is also
[63:29]reassessing the rules and reassessing our priorities what are we prioritizing and
[63:33]subhanallah allah through the biology of the female has given her that
[63:39]capacity to be an excellent mother you know we have two sides
[63:43]of the brain the right side and the left side on average
[63:48]on average women have four times the number of neurons connecting the
[63:53]right side to the left side than men look at these studies
[63:58]they're fascinating they are multitaskers have you seen mom she's in the
[64:04]kitchen she's on the phone with somebody and she's talking to the
[64:07]kids and giving directions and cooking managing everything we simply cannot pull
[64:13]that off on average they are good multitaskers women are better communicators
[64:20]and they better express emotional needs allah has equipped them islam says
[64:26]don't look down on that cherish that praise that appreciate that give
[64:31]them credit for that don't put that down and just celebrate what
[64:37]the man is able to do that is not only equally important
[64:43]more important allah didn't say that heaven is at the feet of
[64:47]that guy working for his career or the guy who has better
[64:54]muscles no allah said mother the fate of the mother because allah
[64:58]wants us to celebrate those qualities that make a mother such a
[65:05]good mother my brothers and sisters where we've approached the end of
[65:09]the discussion we promised that we talked about two more points very
[65:12]quickly and shall address these points and we'll we'll end the discussion
[65:17]inshaallah so one of the points that we wanted to discuss and
[65:21]this was a suggestion on our social media pages is the double
[65:25]standards in our community between sons and daughters you know the family
[65:32]expectations for instance the boys you know the families are a lot
[65:37]more flexible with what they do you know they may not have
[65:41]a curfew or a later curfew whereas the daughters know you know
[65:44]the families are a lot more strict with them yes we do
[65:47]have these double standards and it is unfortunate but one thing i'd
[65:53]like to share with you my dear brothers and sisters and please
[65:55]be open to what i will say i'm not justifying for these
[66:02]families however sometimes it's helpful to know why they think that way
[66:07]sometimes some of these parents the reason why they're strict more with
[66:11]their daughters than their sons they shouldn't be you know they should
[66:14]be equally strict and have clear standards for both but one reason
[66:21]why sometimes parents um operate like that is because of cultural expectations
[66:29]and the cultural talk and the social talk that surrounds our families
[66:36]i'll give you an example let's say let's say you're a brother
[66:42]and you're a sister let's say your brother the guy the son
[66:45]he did something inappropriate late at night something inappropriate the community found
[66:52]out this guy you know did something a little bit inappropriate at
[66:57]11 30 p.m okay there's going to be some haki here and
[67:03]there it's expected what if the girl at 11 30 did something
[67:10]inappropriate how does the society comment on that do you think it's
[67:12]equal or there's a difference be honest let's hear from the sisters
[67:16]first i'm not saying this is right or wrong or just i'm
[67:21]just trying to figure out what's going on out there in society
[67:23]what do you think happens socially is society tougher on her or
[67:31]on the boy on her right so parents they they acknowledge they
[67:38]know that that's why they become more protective with their daughter because
[67:41]they want to avoid having their daughters let's say having a bad
[67:46]reputation sometimes it's important to know this about the community yes we
[67:53]should change that and you the generation today you can change that
[67:55]you can change these expectations and and make them more fair more
[68:00]equal but we do live in a society that is like that
[68:06]unfortunately and sometimes parents do realize that and that's why sometimes they
[68:10]do have double standards it's it's healthy just to keep that in
[68:13]mind yes brother yes men and women have their own separate standards
[68:25]yeah but see what my point is we're talking about a guy
[68:29]who's doing something inappropriate right well something that's inappropriate isn't appropriate no
[68:35]matter who does it whether it's a man or a woman but
[68:38]usually families are flexible with their son if he does something inappropriate
[68:44]but not with the girl they're strict they're tough so we're trying
[68:48]to just understand you know why that is the case when it
[68:53]comes to sins or something that's inappropriate islam has one standard you
[68:57]know you're a man you come you're a woman you care medicine
[69:00]in the eyes of god that's equal it's a sin at the
[69:02]end of the day but no families will easily let the guy
[69:05]go it's okay but not with the girl they're much more strict
[69:11]with that and sometimes you even see someone in the family it
[69:14]could be an older brother and and you know they take things
[69:18]out of hand they start becoming aggressive and abusive this is wrong
[69:21]this is definitely wrong i know there's a lot more to discuss
[69:25]about this maybe inshallah on another opportunity uh we'll explore this further
[69:29]the final point as promised and basically we'll conclude this point by
[69:35]asking you just some you know very quick questions one of the
[69:41]requests was to talk about how the genders can meet one another
[69:44]today for a potential spouse you know on social media is that
[69:50]appropriate are there other ways i know this is a long discussion
[69:54]we can go for an hour just discussing this but i ask
[69:57]you just one quick question in the last five years do you
[70:02]know someone in your generation from your friends or your friends friends
[70:06]got married if you know someone raise your hand okay so pretty
[70:12]much all of you know someone pretty much in your generation maybe
[70:16]their 20s mid 20s late 20s who got married knowing those friends
[70:23]how they got married how did they get married how did they
[70:26]come to know one another okay so the brother is saying families
[70:33]so how so the guy basically asked about a good family and
[70:40]he just went and proposed okay yeah that does happen sometimes in
[70:45]the community yes mutual friends like on facebook you mean okay so
[70:55]a mutual friend so let's say there's a sister whom you know
[70:58]she has a friend so you ask you know that friend about
[71:05]that other person and they can tell you about this person and
[71:07]you know you can be introduced sisters let's hear from you the
[71:11]people whom you know that they got married how did they get
[71:14]married how did they get to know one another yes i have
[71:18]a friend she's been married for a couple years now and she
[71:22]actually met him through the nyc so she met him through these
[71:27]programs and a lot of people looked down so now you're marketing
[71:30]them i'm just kidding it wasn't an appropriate way obviously but um
[71:35]okay so basically the idea is through a religious youth program they
[71:40]got to know one another and a lot of people see something
[71:44]wrong with it but i think if it's in an appropriate obviously
[71:49]environment and obviously both or the male has the correct intentions in
[71:54]mind i think it's a great way to meet somebody in my
[71:57]opinion it's a very very good observation sister how many of you
[72:02]here think it's inappropriate for someone to get another potential spouse in
[72:07]a youth program who thinks it's inappropriate who thinks it's appropriate okay
[72:18]your parents do they think it's inappropriate no they think it's it's
[72:29]appropriate so your generation you're you're okay with that you think it
[72:32]is completely appropriate what about your parents generation are they as okay
[72:37]with it as you are or probably not maybe maybe not right
[72:43]and and you see these shifts happening so yes my dear brothers
[72:47]and sisters that that that's a very good suggestion remember in a
[72:51]lot of community activities and a lot of youth groups that is
[72:54]an opportunity to get to know someone uh to be a potential
[72:59]spouse or sometimes at a retreat i know some parents do not
[73:03]want us to see this believe me they will have an issue
[73:05]oh if you're going to say that i'm not going to let
[73:07]my son or daughter go to the next uh um i say
[73:12]friday night program right but this is wrong i believe into you
[73:16]the parent what do you want your son to know his future
[73:18]wife or your daughter to know her future husband on the college
[73:22]campus that's okay with you but not at a good youth program
[73:26]this is jail this is ignorance and we have to do our
[73:31]best to change this mentality that's a perfectly acceptable venue to know
[73:37]someone it's a given that most people are coming with good intentions
[73:41]they're coming to learn develop their spirituality people who have bad intentions
[73:46]they have a thousand other places to go to [Music] yes through
[74:02]the business partnership that they had so the prophet sallallahu alaihi wanted
[74:07]to help out his financially struggling and abu talib had taken the
[74:15]prophet into his care so the prophet wanted to basically pay him
[74:19]back so in his early 20s the prophet was looking for a
[74:23]business opportunity he had heard that lady khadijah has these big caravans
[74:26]they go to yemen they go to street they do business so
[74:31]lady khadijah heard from someone that muhammad sallallahu alaihi this is before
[74:37]he was a prophet is interested in you know a business opportunity
[74:42]so she sent the message to the prophet that i would like
[74:46]to give you that opportunity i've heard that you're an young man
[74:51]so the prophet went and he did business she had a servant
[74:56]by the name of mesara a man by the name of mesa
[75:00]and basically she told him go with muhammad sallallahu alaihi to syria
[75:04]and i want you to observe his actions see observe ask someone
[75:09]who's observed a potential person a spouse it's very important to observe
[75:14]to know the character of another person so the prophet went on
[75:19]that trip he did business he came back it was a very
[75:23]successful business trip the first thing that happened is that hadith islam
[75:28]tell me about this young man was he honest how did he
[75:32]speak to people how did we deal with other people what did
[75:36]you notice about his character a full report of the prophet's character
[75:41]the minute mesa gave her that report she knew this was the
[75:46]man for her this is the man whom i've been waiting for
[75:50]honest decent excellent character and she even tried to double his pay
[75:55]because he made a lot of money for her the prophet said
[75:59]no we agreed on this amount i'll take this amount she's like
[76:02]he's not greedy unlike other people in this position they want three
[76:08]times more he's not dating i love this person so she sent
[76:11]one of her friends by the name of nefisa to the prophet
[76:14]sallallahu alaihi she told him that you know if you are looking
[76:21]to get married is also looking to get married so she indirectly
[76:26]suggested it to him and that's how it happened so she got
[76:32]to know him through that business opportunity my dear brothers and sisters
[76:38]it was a a great honor to be with you this evening
[76:40]to have this wonderful discussion i know there's a lot more to
[76:46]it inshallah on another opportunity we can continue this discussion may allah
[76:50]bless you all and bless your families and protect you all stand
[76:56]up in honor of alibaba and recite [Music] a reminder next week
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