Does Belief In Evolution Equal Atheism? | Sayed Ali Moussawi | English Program | Night 4

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[0:11][Music] alhamd last night we began a discussion on the story of

[0:49]the Shan and we went over the fact that Allah subhanahu wa

[0:56]taala he is he is a being who creates and he loves

[1:00]to create amongst these creations we have of course the Mal the

[1:07]angels and another one of his Creations was the creation of the

[1:12]Jin when we were going over the story of the Jin one

[1:16]of the things that I mentioned is that the Gin just like

[1:19]human beings they have different groups there are believers amongst them and

[1:26]disbelievers they have different tribes and different different ethnicities and different races

[1:32]and they even have different shapes and sizes just like we do

[1:37]amongst those Jin there was an individual by the name of el

[1:43]who was actually from The Devout Believers and as he begins this

[1:51]process of worshiping Allah subhanahu wa taala his worship is accepted and

[1:56]he begins to rise in rank he rises higher and higher and

[2:00]higher until the point that he is now worshiping Allah with the

[2:06]Mal with the angels of God and when he reaches that point

[2:13]a time comes when Allah decides to create another creation and this

[2:18]is the creation of our forefather adam.

[2:21]and when he begins to create Adam Alam he tells these Mal

[2:29]alongside whom is that I am going to be choosing this individual

[2:35]and his progeny as my khalifas on this Earth and this is

[2:42]a very lofty Rank and so when the Mal they hear about

[2:44]this that he is going to choose this funny looking creation that

[2:50]is Created from clay and I think if you compare and contrast

[2:53]what an angel must look like and then you compare it with

[2:59]our creation this strange creature that walks on two feet and he

[3:04]is made from this Earth the Mal they ask that Ya Allah

[3:06]why would you place this type of an individual as your khif

[3:13]it's such a high position we are here we worship you why

[3:15]would there be a need for this and Allah subhana wa ta'ala

[3:19]he tells them that I know what you know not when the

[3:24]creation of Adam has been completed he turns towards the Mal and

[3:28]he says that I am commanding you to do before Adam now

[3:34]the Mal of course they don't have any desire within themselves to

[3:39]disobey God they're not like us as human beings or the Jin

[3:44]but El who had reached that high rank he makes the decision

[3:47]that I am not going to do sujud before this creation of

[3:52]God because I am Superior to him and he explains his rationale

[3:56]that I am Superior because I am made from the material of

[4:02]fire and he is made of the base material of clay now

[4:06]when we reach this point about the creation of Adam and this

[4:13]is the topic for tonight we get into this issue of evolution

[4:18]that when we look at the verses of the Holy Quran when

[4:23]we look at the it seems as if the creation of Adam

[4:30]it was instant aneous in nature meaning that Allah subhanahu wa taala

[4:34]he said be and the creation of Adam was but in the

[4:40]modern day era we're faced with a theory known as Evolution which

[4:44]teaches that everything that exists on the face of this Earth it

[4:49]has a common point of origin everything that exists from the trees

[4:54]from the fish from the human being if you go back in

[4:59]time it came through this grad ual process of evolution where one

[5:02]being gives rise to another being and that being gives rise to

[5:07]another being until eventually we as human beings have been created is

[5:12]there an Islamic theory that combines the evidence that we have for

[5:17]evolution with the verses of the Quran as Believers are we supposed

[5:23]to reject the theory of evolution does it go against the verses

[5:27]of the Quran and theith inshallah tonight I wanted to dive deep

[5:32]into this discussion and open up a few of these issues now

[5:37]I remember when I was maybe fifth grade or sixth grade we

[5:39]were doing a module on Evolution and the teacher began to explain

[5:44]that we have this belief in science that in the very beginning

[5:50]when the Earth had just been created you had the Earth that

[5:56]was covered with this warm thick soup of liquid and then he

[6:00]explained he said that eventually after millions and billions of years what

[6:06]ended up taking place is that atoms molecules they happen to connect

[6:13]with each other or contact one another and eventually little cells were

[6:17]created and those cells that were created eventually they gave rise with

[6:22]tiny microorganisms and eventually those microorganisms they evolved into more complex forms

[6:30]of life and eventually those gave rise to sea animals and eventually

[6:35]from the sea those animals began to migrate onto the land and

[6:39]eventually this led to the creation of things like primates and that

[6:46]led to the creation of the human being now I remember when

[6:50]he was mentioning all of this he ended it with an interesting

[6:53]point that I still haven't forgotten he said and this is why

[6:57]God doesn't exist and I'll never forget that even in sixth grade

[7:02]I was trying to connect how does the theory of evolution equal

[7:07]the fact that God doesn't exist now as a public school teacher

[7:11]if this had happened today if I had told my parents probably

[7:15]he would have been fired or something would have happened he was

[7:18]going Beyond his scope and his permission that he had to teach

[7:22]these things but this was the conclusion and over the years I've

[7:28]realized that many people they have the same question that if we

[7:32]believe in evolution is there any issue with our belief in religion

[7:36]with our belief in God now when we go back to the

[7:40]history of the theory of evolution you look at the 1850s in

[7:43]the Western World an individual by the name of Charles Darwin he

[7:46]comes about and he argues that based upon the fossil record that

[7:53]they had began to find he argues that when we look at

[7:56]these fossil records we see that there are Creations which become more

[8:00]and more complex as time goes on and so he comes out

[8:05]with this theory of evolution that from the very beginning all of

[8:09]the things which exist in this world they all have a common

[8:15]point of origin now for the Christian world this was a very

[8:19]difficult Theory to Grapple with because for a group of people that

[8:22]believe in the Bible they believed that God created Adam the human

[8:31]race the directly and so this idea that we came about and

[8:34]part of our ancestry it goes to monkeys and primates it was

[8:39]a very difficult pill for the Christian world to swallow you know

[8:43]just imagine you're sitting at the zoo and you're looking at monkeys

[8:48]and you're wondering is that my forefather is that Grandpa you know

[8:51]sitting there and he's making noises and he's jumping around it's difficult

[8:58]for us as human beings to accept this now eventually it was

[9:00]accepted within the Christian world because the authority of the church one

[9:04]had been weakened but number two they kept finding pieces of evidence

[9:08]after pieces of evidence now eventually this Theory it begins to move

[9:14]into the Muslim world and during that time it wasn't like today

[9:17]where when something comes about it's instantaneously transmitted into the internet and

[9:24]it reaches the entirety of the world it gradually begins to seep

[9:28]into the Muslim world and Muslims just like their Christian counterparts they

[9:32]begin to Grapple with this question that it seems as if this

[9:39]theory of evolution it has a lot of weight behind it and

[9:42]so as Muslims who believe in the Quran we believe in the

[9:45]of how do we deal with this issue now traditionally Muslims when

[9:50]they had read the verses of the Quran 200 years ago 300

[9:53]years ago it seemed as if the verses of the Quran were

[9:58]very clear and I wanted to mention a few of these verses

[10:00]because it speaks about the creation of our forefather Adam the first

[10:06]verse it [Music] mentions Allah subhana wa tala he says to the

[10:18]angels indeed I am going to create human beings from mud now

[10:22]you look at this verse there's no mention of evolution there's no

[10:27]mention of monkeys primates there's no no mention of any primordial soup

[10:32]there's no mention of any of these things it seems as if

[10:37]Allah is directly creating Adam and then we look even further in

[10:41]the Quran there's many verses on this topic the second [Music] verse

[10:56]here this becomes even more powerful Allah subhana wa tala in mentioning

[11:02]the example of Jesus he says the following he says the example

[11:09]of Jesus in the eyes of Allah is indeed like the example

[11:17]of Adam he created him from dust and then he said to

[11:20]him be and he was so Muslims they are reading these types

[11:26]of verses and it seems very clear that Allah subhana wa tala

[11:29]he's not mentioned mening Evolution he's not mentioning any process in fact

[11:33]he is mentioning an instantaneous process of creation is an instantaneous process

[11:40]and so here we have these theories seeping into the Muslim world

[11:44]at the same time we have the problem of colonialism that we

[11:49]don't have the scientists that we used to have we don't have

[11:52]the institutions that we used to have if you look in the

[11:56]early history of Islam we were on The Cutting Edge of science

[11:58]the European world it was steeped in darkness they didn't have science

[12:02]in fact if you were a scientist they would kill you they

[12:06]would execute you they might even burn you at the stake but

[12:08]the Muslim World they were at the Forefront but at this point

[12:13]the Muslim world is in a weakened State we're struggling colonialism is

[12:17]coming in they're chopping up bits and pieces of our Nations and

[12:21]our countries and so we're grappling with this we're struggling with this

[12:24]what do we do what do we believe and so some Muslims

[12:30]they came about and they said that maybe just like some of

[12:32]the other verses of the Holy Quran they are metaphorical maybe these

[12:37]verses are also metaphorical that when Allah he says be and it

[12:42]is he is initiating the process of creation through the process of

[12:47]evolution maybe that is what is going on here and so Muslims

[12:52]were coming out with these kinds of ideas trying to synthesize all

[12:57]of these different theories that they had from the record along with

[13:01]the verses of the Quran now here sometimes we have this issue

[13:11]where we find other verses that may point to this reality as

[13:14]well one of the verses of the Quran Allah subhana wa tala

[13:18]he says in this verse of the Holy Quran Allah he says

[13:33]that we created you and then we fashioned you so when the

[13:37]Muslims were looking at verses like this they were saying look there's

[13:42]the possibility that we misunderstood there's a possibility that this is a

[13:45]gradual process that evolution is how Allah created mankind now here we're

[13:52]going to insh go along with this let us imagine for a

[13:57]moment that evolution is the correct Theory and by the way it

[14:01]is simply a theory it is not a fact it is not

[14:05]proven beyond a shadow of a doubt it is a theory Al

[14:08]bit we say it is a strong Theory let's go along with

[14:14]this and let us believe that this is the best understanding of

[14:20]these verses as we begin to go into this we look at

[14:23]the fossil record and when you look in the fossil record what

[14:28]we find is that there are groups of creation that preceded our

[14:32]own creation as Homo sapiens and I was looking online I was

[14:35]trying to find these different beings that had been created that they

[14:42]say is the link between us and the initial Creations the first

[14:46]creation there is something by the name of Homo habilis that appears

[14:53]2.4 million years ago and it goes extinct about 1.4 million years

[14:58]ago it's a long time when we really think about how long

[15:04]ago this was it boggles the mind so this was one of

[15:06]the first they say humanik Creations that we find but when you

[15:13]look at this skeleton it doesn't really look like a human being

[15:17]in fact it is closer to a primate than a human being

[15:21]after that we see other ones there's one called homo rudal fenus

[15:24]and I think maybe a British individual named these they all have

[15:28]strange names homo rudal fenis it appears 1.9 million years ago and

[15:35]it goes extinct 1.8 million years ago and then it continues there

[15:38]is being after being after being until we eventually reach the Neanderthals

[15:45]that came into existence 200,000 years ago and they go extinct 40,000

[15:51]years ago and eventually we reach the creation of homo sapiens Homo

[15:58]sapiens they come about 210,000 years ago and they continue until today

[16:04]so here we are assuming that this idea of evolution is correct

[16:09]we're going to take the verses of the Quran metaphorically and we're

[16:13]going to say that when Allah subh he creates him and he

[16:17]breathes into him that rof is the first of the homo sapiens

[16:25]so 200,000 years ago we are saying that if we believe in

[16:31]the theory of evolution everything is okay Adam was created about 200,000

[16:35]years ago when this Homo Sapien comes about he has a larger

[16:38]brain he's anatomically similar to me and you this is Adam now

[16:45]as soon as we buy into this we begin to run into

[16:50]a few different issues issue number one when we look at the

[16:54]story of and the two sons of Adam now the story is

[17:02]in the Quran it's in theith that these two sons ofam at

[17:08]one point Allah he asks them for sacrifice he wants to see

[17:13]which of these two sons is more sincere and so he says

[17:15]that I want you to bring the best of what you have

[17:19]and place it in front of me as a sacrifice Hab he

[17:25]was an individual that was into animal husbandry meaning that he had

[17:31]flock of sheep it is mentioned in the that he was a

[17:35]farmer he would engage in agricultural work and so he brings some

[17:41]very low quality grains that he had that is his sacrifice and

[17:44]he brings the best sheep the best Ram that he had amongst

[17:49]his flock and that is his sacrifice now what ends up taking

[17:54]place is that when we look at the story and we look

[17:56]at the fossil record we find that agriculture did not exist 200,000

[18:04]years ago when does agriculture first appear it first appears about 10,000

[18:10]or 11,000 years ago so we're running into problem number one that

[18:14]if we say that 200,000 years ago it was the firstam The

[18:18]first Homo Sapien then we now have an issue with this that

[18:23]if he's into agriculture then that was only 10,000 years ago problem

[18:26]number two is that when you continue with the story of and

[18:32]eventually he kills he murders his brother habil now what's interesting is

[18:41]that the Quran mentions this that when he murders his brother he

[18:45]doesn't know what to do with the body and the Quran actually

[18:52]mentions that Allah he sends a crow the crow scratches into the

[18:55]Earth and he shows that when a body has been deceased you

[18:58]are supposed to bury it underneath the Earth there's this burial process

[19:03]now what's strange about this is that when you look at the

[19:07]fossil record you look at the historical record you find that burial

[19:10]was something that the homo sapiens they had from the very beginning

[19:14]even before Homo sapiens came about those other beings had existed even

[19:19]they had customs of burial where they would take one another they

[19:24]would bury the bodies they would even have little bits of food

[19:26]that they would place in the grave they would put jewelry in

[19:28]the grave sometimes they would Place horses in the grave how is

[19:33]it that he doesn't know about the burial custom if he's from

[19:41]this long line of other beings then he should have seen burials

[19:44]he should have seen others who passed away and they are then

[19:48]placed underneath the Earth then we run into the third issue and

[19:52]this is an amazing issue when you look at the verses of

[19:58]the Holy Quran about the creation of and the response of the

[20:03]Mal to Allah saying that I'm going to place him as my

[20:05]vice gerant on the face of this Earth the Angels say something

[20:11]that they should not have had knowledge of what do the Mala

[20:19]say Allah he says oh I'm going to be placing Adam as

[20:24]myif on the face of this Earth the Mal there [Music] respond

[20:35]the Mal they say Ya Allah are you really going to be

[20:42]giving this high rank to this creation that sheds blood and causes

[20:46]corruption on the face of this earth now there's a Hadith by

[20:51]IM where the Imam he says the following he says what would

[20:57]have made the Angels know to say will you place there in

[21:00]someone who will cause corruption and shed blood had they not witnessed

[21:08]those who cause corruption and shed blood the Imam is pointing to

[21:11]a reality he says that these Mal that they're asking Allah about

[21:15]this that this being Adam he's a very violent being he's a

[21:19]corrupt being we've seen this before the Imam is pointing to a

[21:26]reality that perhaps there were other beings that resembled now this leads

[21:32]us to a discussion of beings known as the nasnas when we

[21:37]look at Islamic Hadith the imams 1,400 years ago I want you

[21:44]to keep this in mind, 1400 years ago there's no discussion of

[21:50]evolution there's no discussion of fossil record this is not even in

[21:54]the minds of the people they begin to discuss beings that were

[21:58]known as nesnas n literally means humanlike beings and they explained that

[22:08]before the creation ofam there were other beings that were resembling the

[22:14]human being and Allah subhana waala would create one group of them

[22:18]he would give them an opportunity and they would begin to cause

[22:21]corruption and shed blood so they would be destroyed when they were

[22:25]destroyed Allah subhana Wa ta'ala Would create another group they would again

[22:31]cause corruption and they would be destroyed and this continued over and

[22:35]over and over again until the creation of adam.

[22:39]now here the Islamic scholars they've brought all of these things together

[22:44]they've looked at the fossil record they've looked at the verses of

[22:47]the Quran they've looked at the they've looked at the different theories

[22:53]they've said that we can have a conclusive and comprehensive theory of

[22:57]evolution that works for us as Muslims what is that theory they

[23:01]have said that it is possible that Allah subhah wa ta'ala he

[23:05]created these other beings through the process of evolution these other beings

[23:13]that came before even when we look at Homo sapiens it is

[23:16]possible that even they were created through the process of evolution but

[23:21]they said that when we look at the verses of the Holy

[23:24]Quran when we look at the when we look at these pieces

[23:29]of evidence they say that it makes sense that Adam was a

[23:33]unique and a distinct creation of God that Allah subhana wa tala

[23:37]he said be and Adam was created that maybe he resembled in

[23:45]shape those other beings but there was something special about this being

[23:49]of God and that was the rof that Allah subhanahu wa'ta'ala had

[23:53]placed within him this potential which allowed Adam to have that role

[23:59]as Theif of Allah on the face of this Earth so this

[24:03]is one way that we could deal with this theory of evolution

[24:06]we could bring all of these different things together we could accept

[24:09]potentially the idea that things were created through Evolution while continuing to

[24:15]hold to this idea of the verses of the Quran and theth

[24:19]now here I just wanted to conclude by mentioning just a few

[24:23]points Point number one we do have to understand that the theory

[24:29]of evolution is just a the you know I give this example

[24:33]that when you are looking at the fossil record what we are

[24:36]seeing is a little bit of evidence that is here and a

[24:38]little bit of evidence that is here and a little bit of

[24:41]evidence that is here and it's like the example of a jigsaw

[24:44]puzzle I don't know if you've ever bought these jigsaw puzzles and

[24:49]then your kids get a hold of the jigsaw puzzle and then

[24:51]you have to say fat too many of the pieces and sometimes

[24:55]you don't know until one day you're putting it all together and

[24:58]you realize that there's a whole bunch of pieces missing from the

[25:00]jigsaw puzzle but this is literally what they are doing it's a

[25:06]500 piece jigsaw puzzle and scientists only have 30 40 50 of

[25:10]those pieces and they're doing the best that they can to put

[25:13]those pieces together to have an image of how we were created

[25:17]as human beings but we have to acknowledge that it is a

[25:22]very incomplete picture the second issue is that there is no problem

[25:26]with not believing in evolution again as we mentioned it's simply a

[25:30]theory a theory that one day they can say that we were

[25:35]incorrect just like many other theories after 50 100 500 thousand years

[25:39]they say that you know what the theory that we had we

[25:42]got it wrong we were incorrect at the same time we also

[25:47]have to say that there is nothing wrong with believing in the

[25:50]theory of evolution even in the fact that Adam maybe he was

[25:52]created through the process of evolution with that said I think that

[25:58]the best way of looking at it is what the have mentioned

[26:01]and others they've gone over this Theory and it's a very comprehensive

[26:05]and it's a very conclusive idea of evolution I wanted to end

[26:11]it with just a Hadith and inshallah we can use this Hadith

[26:15]really to expand our minds IM he mentions a really beautiful point

[26:22]he says perhaps you assume that Allah has only created this one

[26:29]world and assume that he has not created any mankind except for

[26:33]you and we often times feel that way as if we are

[26:38]the only beings the only Creations that Allah has created in this

[26:44]entire universe IM B then continues he says yes by Allah he

[26:48]has created a thousand thousand in the Arabic language this is in

[26:52]reference to the million the term million indeed by Allah he has

[26:59]created a million world worlds and a million Adams for which you

[27:03]are the last of these worlds and the last of these Adams

[27:07]Subhan Allah when you think about the 14400 years ago in a

[27:13]time period when these kinds of ideas were not even being discussed

[27:16]they are showing us that Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala he is the

[27:23]greatest Creator and we should never think that we are the only

[27:26]creation of Allah Allah has created and he continues to create and

[27:30]he continues to create but in this month of muharam one of

[27:34]the things that we recognize is that the greatest of Allah's Creations

[27:38]among these great Creations is none other than the creation of the

[27:43]and when we look at this idea of mourning for abdah Hussein

[27:49]we find that our forefather Adam he is in fact one of

[27:54]the first who begins to mourn one of the greatest creations of

[27:58]Allah we have a tradition that it mentions that when Adam had

[28:05]made that mistake and he was expelled from the Garden of Eden

[28:08]he was in a very unhappy State he was very distressed he

[28:13]was very sad he was constantly weeping he was constantly doing Toba

[28:16]he was saying yaah Allah please forgive me I made a mistake

[28:21]I was fooled by the tricks of the Shan I didn't mean

[28:25]to do this and So eventually jbra he descended sends upon Adam

[28:30]and he says oh Adam if you want your Toba to be

[28:35]accepted by Allah subhanahu waala I am going to teach you certain

[28:39]words by the right of those words your Toba is going to

[28:44]be accepted Allah is going to forgive you Adam he turns towards

[28:49]J he says oh my brother J what are those words J

[28:54]he teaches him a certain Dua the Dua is as follows the

[28:56]translation in English it says the following it says that oh the

[29:02]praiseworthy by the right of Muhammad so first he teaches him the

[29:07]name of the holy prophet sallallah alai then he says say the

[29:13]following oh the most high by the right of Ali oh Creator

[29:16]by the right of FAA oh benevolent by the right of Hassan

[29:21]Hussein Adam Alam he begins to recite these words Allah accepts his

[29:27]Toba his repentance is accepted and then Adam he turns towards J

[29:34]he says oh J I have a question to ask you J

[29:37]he says what is it oh Adam he says that I don't

[29:39]know why this is taking place but when I mention these names

[29:45]I felt a sense of Joy the first name the second name

[29:49]the third name the fourth name he says but when I reached

[29:54]that final name that you taught me he says that it feels

[29:56]as if my heart is about to sh scatter into a million

[30:00]pieces tears well into my eyes I begin to weep what is

[30:04]happening to me I don't understand the effect of this name jbel

[30:11]he says that this son of yours Hussein he is going to

[30:16]be killed and he is going to face such afflictions that all

[30:21]of the other afflictions are going to seem as if they were

[30:24]nothing and then he continues he says that he is going to

[30:30]be killed while he is thirsty and lonely he will have no

[30:33]one there to help him he is going to be all alone

[30:36]he says oh Adam I wish you could see him crying out

[30:42]oh thirst oh thirst I wish you could see him crying out

[30:48]oh loneliness oh loneliness and he is going to be all alone

[30:51]oh Adam I wish you could see him his only answer that

[30:56]is going to come is going to be the Striking of the

[31:01]swords and he is going to be butchered like a sheep from

[31:02]the back of the neck and the enemies will rob the belongings

[31:08]of the tents and his blessed head with those of his companions

[31:11]is going to be paraded throughout the cities and his family is

[31:14]going to be taken as captives they are going to be paraded

[31:18]throughout the cities and he says that they are going to be

[31:21]taken as prisoners and this is something that I am revealing to

[31:26]you from the knowledge of your lord and it's at this point

[31:29]the that adam.

[31:31]he becomes one of the first aadar one of the first mourners

[31:33]of ab abdah Hussein and he begins to weep alongside him jbra

[31:39]also weeps and the narration it mentions that they are Weeping as

[31:43]a mother weeps when she has lost her children may Allah subhana

[31:46]wa ta'ala accept these acts of worship may he guide us and

[31:52]he make us from the true mourners of IM Hussein muhamed Muhammad

[31:59]so

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