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[0:00]oh [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] anything you spend he will replace

[0:59]it he is the best of providers hey [Music] hey [Music] oh

[1:31]oh [Music] in the name of Allah the most beneficent the most

[1:43]merciful all Praises due to the Lord master of all the worlds

[1:48]and peace and blessings be on All His prophets and especially the

[1:50]final Prophet The Prophet Muhammad s my respected brothers and sisters the

[1:59]sh they all have a different Quran we've heard it for so

[2:06]many years every single accusation has to either begin with OR end

[2:10]with the Shia having a different Quran with different SAS or a

[2:15]belief in Alteration or Distortion of the Quran known as of the

[2:18]Quran many of us have been involved in discussions concerning this in

[2:23]one way or another throughout my life in all these years that

[2:26]I've been doing discussions lectures wherever we may have been there's always

[2:30]this question do you guys have an extra s in the Quran

[2:32]do you believe that the Quran has Parts which are missing and

[2:36]therefore this subject without a doubt is one that requires a thorough

[2:40]analysis through Sunni literature to actually ask the question do non have

[2:45]a different Quran or do non sh believe that the Quran may

[2:49]have been structured in a completely different way to the structure that

[2:54]we see today are there verses of the Quran that are missing

[2:57]are there certain chapters that are missing because you normally find that

[3:02]non-muslims will throw these accusations concerning Muslims and so we have to

[3:06]find a way to reply to the non-muslim but the non-muslim sometimes

[3:10]opens up our own sources our own books in Islamic literature an

[3:14]example being this book in front of me which each and every

[3:19]one of you if ever a non asks you a question do

[3:20]you sh believe in a different Quran you should always turn it

[3:24]around by saying hold on a minute have you read this book

[3:26]if you all zoom into this book over here it really is

[3:30]as per the title at the top over here the great books

[3:37]of Islamic civilization by Imam jald the perfect Guide to the Sciences

[3:43]of the Quran okay translated by Professor Hamed algar Dr Michael shab

[3:52]and Mr aan ABD reviewed by Professor Muhammed hammed Center for Muslim

[3:59]contribution to civilization in association with Garnet publishing any sh out there

[4:05]when anyone raises this question with you about having a different Quran

[4:10]your first answer is of course come home I'll show you my

[4:14]Quran come to my mosque I'll show you my Quran that's always

[4:17]the most obvious answer and even most of our might even be

[4:21]books which are published where maybe published in Saudi Arabia but on

[4:25]the second level someone might take a step further and say well

[4:28]I've seen that you've got certain narrations that indicate that you may

[4:32]believe that the order of the Quran may be different you may

[4:35]believe for example that there's verses which are different and so one

[4:40]of the best replies is to always show this work always because

[4:43]this work is of course by a very renowned Sun scholar but

[4:47]what he does is that he highlights in this work volume one

[4:52]and volume two you can find it online in English that you

[4:55]know what the question actually has to be asked of the Sunni

[4:59]World about their narration concerning the Quran we know very well that

[5:05]quranic Sciences is not the easiest science to study there are many

[5:08]Muslims if you ask them what's your holy book they'll say to

[5:10]you the Quran if you ask them have you studied quranic Sciences

[5:15]they'll say what do you mean quranic Sciences quranic Sciences are those

[5:21]discussions that concern the compilation of the Holy Quran when was it

[5:25]compiled how was it compiled this Quran that we have with us

[5:27]today who compiled this Quran because we know without a doubt it's

[5:36]called the and it was compiled in the time of that there

[5:40]is absolutely no dispute about so I need to understand how did

[5:45]we reach a stage in understanding the development and the evolution of

[5:49]the Holy Quran who was involved in the compilation we know the

[5:53]holy prophet peace be upon M his family in his own lifetime

[5:55]he had these scribes around him renowned in all schools of Islam

[6:01]people like IM people like abdah people like zit people like these

[6:09]people would be around the prophet peace be upon's family and they

[6:13]would have different levels of understanding of the Holy Quran himself goes

[6:17]towards a direction that there were 12 at the time of the

[6:20]Prophet who had memorized the Holy Quran and we know that at

[6:23]that time oral transmission was seen as more prevalent than what we

[6:29]know of today as written transmission the Arabs could memorize poems from

[6:32]now until and therefore they would memorize a lot of their things

[6:35]a lot of their literature so you had people who had memorize

[6:38]the Holy Quran and by the time the holy prophet dies you

[6:43]have these companions who are now wondering how do we look after

[6:47]the Quran of course IM aliam has his codex and s k

[6:52]has written about his codex available online Imam has his codex which

[6:56]gives you the order of the revelation of the Quran as well

[6:59]as the of the Holy Quran as well next to it but

[7:03]the government does not take this one the government finds itself in

[7:08]a predicament in relation to compilation of the Holy Quran we find

[7:13]that the first khif finds himself in a predicament do I gather

[7:17]together or compile that which the prophet did not because the sh

[7:25]theological opinion is that Al compiles the whole Quran in his lifetime

[7:28]and the sh of course normally come with arguments such as I

[7:32]leave behind for you the Quran and my or you have's famous

[7:39]line the Quran is enough for us that's a theological argument of

[7:43]the sh School represented for example by the likes ofy may Allah

[7:47]bless the soul but then you have the historical reading where experts

[7:52]in quranic Sciences like would Point towards the fact that no how

[7:57]we understand the compilation is that it's not necessarily in the time

[8:00]of the Holy Prophet peace be upon his family but rather the

[8:02]compilation as the Muslim said it was compiled Islam with the Prophet

[8:06]The Prophet pieces uh passes away peace be upon him and his

[8:11]family and then after him the first Calif wonders what shall I

[8:14]do especially with companions dying around him and there is a dilemma

[8:16]that he doesn't take the Quran of IM aliam but rather he

[8:23]decides that it would have to be compiled and he wants Zade

[8:26]binit to be the one who compiles this there are OB objections

[8:33]to Zade binit compiling the Quran but eventually with this piece of

[8:38]the Quran that was under the bed of daughter ofar we eventually

[8:42]get to a position where there are arguments that Abu Bakr wanted

[8:45]to see a compilation and Omar wanted to see a compilation until

[8:51]now with the converts of Islam and the religion of Islam spreading

[8:54]and a number of different readings and Analysis of what should be

[8:58]in the Quran we get to to a time where binan the

[9:03]third khif he's the one who standardizes into the one Quran that

[9:07]we have with us today there were many different readings and recital

[9:10]of the Holy Quran in some cases because of dialect and others

[9:18]understanding of the Quran and also understanding of for example how verses

[9:22]would be someone would say that this particular Quran that we have

[9:28]with us today is it to be read EX exactly that this

[9:31]is the way that J revealed it to the holy prophet peace

[9:36]be upon his family for us the sh will turn around and

[9:38]say yes this is the way that JRA you see an Ayah

[9:42]that Ayah is the exact way that it came to Al in

[9:46]the Sunni World however if you'll see this first clip you'll see

[9:50]that a number of discussions emerged as to whether when a person

[9:54]recites for example say I said if I said that some might

[10:14]say no [Music] no but you might find that others might turn

[10:19]around say no that's also a form of recital that may be

[10:24]accepted because J has given s Al a number of different options

[10:27]of wordings and recit for an Ayah if you see this first

[10:36]clip you'll see that until today while some members of the non

[10:39]world will tell the sh you guys have a different Quran your

[10:43]Quran is not the same as the Quran you'll see that there

[10:45]are different question marks which are continuously still being raised about what

[10:50]of the Quran remained what's changed was the recital please play clip

[10:58]number oneing the preservation of the an and you said uh clearly

[11:03]that the narrative has holes narrative has holes yeah that's what I

[11:08]said number one did you say that first I said the narrative

[11:12]has holes but about what about what exactly about the preservation of

[11:17]the Quran my interview is very clear and also I said that

[11:19]you know sometimes in an interview you don't use the best words

[11:22]and I said that no doubt the words weren't the best but

[11:27]I was not speaking about the preservation of the Quran it's very

[11:31]clear it was about one of the most technical issues which is

[11:38]and the reality of and your Masters and PhD is inran out

[11:42]of all of the subjects of Quran you know as well as

[11:47]I do that is the one that that one of the most

[11:58]confusing issues of is and all of the M can you explain

[12:02]it please I know mons so there are from the prophet that

[12:08]the Quran has been revealed in multiple in seven right and we

[12:13]also know that there are multiple recitations of the Quran that are

[12:16]you know codified the 10 the seven the 14 they're codified so

[12:19]what is the and what is the relationship of the with the

[12:26]okay this is the means narator like this is one of the

[12:36]most complicated and dense questions that have written about a list 40

[12:43]opinions in right um also list them our the teacher of our

[12:47]teachers sh the one who wrote right he was asked what is

[12:53]your opinion about the and he said uh my opinion about the

[12:56]is that I don't have an opinion this is a sh he

[13:00]so confused I don't have an opinion about this right so uh

[13:02]I said by the way in the level of the knowledge of

[13:06]some would say even higher someone say even higher so my point

[13:12]is that um certain issues arose about my position about that other

[13:16]people who perhaps haven't studied as deeply they found very problematic and

[13:21]they accused me of becoming or or even because they didn't you

[13:26]know so these issues had to be clarified so I said you

[13:31]know the the majority opinion of I don't agree with it and

[13:34]the narrative has holes in it I agree I shouldn't have used

[13:41]those wordings it's a very painful wording the and even some of

[13:45]my critics they began saying oh he is saying the Quran have

[13:49]to clarify how can anybody accuse another Muslim and I don't like

[14:03]saying this I'm poor a real can of worms was opened up

[14:06]with him when he was discussing with Muhammad hijab about the Quran

[14:11]you'd think of the Sunni world for years it was always a

[14:13]case that you know the Shia have their issues with the Quran

[14:16]but we don't and then all of a sudden hold on a

[14:17]minute is there a possibility that abdullah's understanding of what was in

[14:21]the Quran is different from is's understanding of what's in the Quran

[14:26]different from or could it be that if one was to open

[14:36]up the literature or books on the or indeed of that a

[14:39]person would see that there's a can of worms that are open

[14:43]that says listen this is a complicated issue this is a deep

[14:45]issue this is not for the fainthearted sh and Sh and this

[14:50]is the classic non way when you've got a dilemma you quote

[14:54]whichever scholar suits your argument at that moment you hear sh or

[14:57]you hear sh you could don't even know better who they are

[15:01]your you'll say okay this guy he suits my argument in what

[15:03]I'm thinking right now so I'm just going to take his and

[15:05]normally when you think Sunni opinion on the Quran he said that

[15:11]Su has 40 different opinions about the modes of the transmission and

[15:15]the modes of recital of the Quran what last I Quran simple

[15:23]here's Quran in front of me simple revealed to said I live

[15:28]behind for you the Quran and my will explain to us the

[15:31]quranic Sciences the abated verses if I want to understand what's in

[15:38]meca and Medina I'll go to if I want to understand for

[15:43]example the and the I'll go to why have I reached the

[15:49]stage by the time of Abu Bakr that when he wants to

[15:50]compile the Quran and ask and people are thinking well this guy

[15:55]is too young and then the Quran is placed under's bed only

[15:57]to reappear but's not too happy with what's reappeared and now we

[16:02]have to get a committee of standardization when the man of GAD

[16:05]is by the way still alive at that time for everyone to

[16:09]use but no problem whatsoever get a team standardize the uh Quran

[16:14]in other words the Sunni narrative about the Quran makes clear that

[16:19]there's some holes in the narrative and he was slated by the

[16:22]way because he said this he was absolutely slated that there are

[16:29]holes in the narrative but but what holes exist because remember one

[16:32]thing and I'll repeat this every single day in my lectures I'm

[16:35]only going to use the sources I'll read for you verbatim these

[16:39]aren't amar's opinions I'm just going to read what's in the sources

[16:44]then of course anyone can come forward and say no that's Hass

[16:47]that's I don't take this that's completely up to you but for

[16:52]me when you begin to open up and break everything up you'll

[16:54]begin to notice that there are even debates as to whether of

[17:00]the Quran someone might listen to this say no no no no

[17:05]no bro come on even those are discussed whether they're in the

[17:10]Quran or no even verses which are the most basic verses such

[17:15]as even there is an addition to that I'm going to come

[17:19]to all of this because I want to break it down piece

[17:22]by piece and I'll try and be a soft as I can

[17:25]as well because sometimes a person prefers when I'm a bit softer

[17:28]as I approach these things so then means that I am um

[17:32]more in a stage of dialogue when I'm doing that so I'm

[17:34]going to try and destroy my emotions as I discuss this so

[17:40]you'll get an AI version of me inshallah now when we come

[17:42]to this over here my dear brother sisters let's put Master Su

[17:47]on the side over here the most interesting of traditions to begin

[17:50]with is the tradition about the sheep or a goat eating the

[17:53]the the Quran okay um if you all come with me over

[17:58]here please let's see this sunb ma my dear brother and sisters

[18:02]let's zoom in here to the Sunan of IB ma all of

[18:07]you could see it here right in front of me we have

[18:10]the Sunan of I ma we come to the Sunan and we

[18:15]will see very clearly over here the sixth correct tradition of the

[18:20]prophetic Sunnah translated by Muhammad Mahi Sharif volume to and over here

[18:27]we see the pages 1856 the year 2008 printed in Lebanon translated

[18:35]by Muhammad Mah Sharif English Arabic text volume two we'll come here

[18:42]to Hadith number 1 194 let's start 1943 which is Hadith number

[18:50]1943 let's see this very interesting discussion in Hadith 1943 uh giving

[18:55]suck to the young man okay giving suck to the young man

[18:59]quite interesting title in fact 1943 it is narrated on the authority

[19:06]of that she said who is she talking about over here s

[19:13]the daughter of soel came to the messenger of Allah and said

[19:18]oh messenger of Allah I observe on the face of Abu Hua

[19:24]my husband some traces of disgust because of salm's entering upon me

[19:29]the messenger of Allah sallallah Al said give suck to him so

[19:34]that he would be unlawful for you to marry breastfeed him yep

[19:40]she said oh messenger of Allah how should I give suck to

[19:43]him and he is a young man the messenger of Allah said

[19:49]smiled and said no doubt I know that he is a young

[19:50]man then she gave suck to him and came to the messenger

[19:54]of Allah and said I've no longer seen on the face of

[19:59]abua any traces of disgard he Salim was of those who attended

[20:05]the Battle of uh bad you look at the comment the public

[20:07]of religious Scholars and learned men you have to include now the

[20:09]commentary just because now someone's baffled that there's a young man in

[20:15]this lady's house she gave she breastfed him and her husband's now

[20:18]in a much happier mood than he was before okay so let's

[20:21]go back to see what's happened here the public of religious Scholars

[20:24]and learned men their former Latin the early and the later times

[20:26]unanimously agree on the fact that this is a uniquely special commandment

[20:30]particularly only to this case an issue for the suckling which forbids

[20:34]what is forbidden by the blood relation should be given to a

[20:38]baby of no more than two years of age and if the

[20:42]child becomes over two suckling Becomes of no effect in that respect

[20:46]it is well known that adoption was practiced by the Arabs as

[20:50]well as by others and it remained as such among the Arabs

[20:52]for a long time until it was abrogated by Allah the messenger

[20:57]of Allah himself adopted Z bin har before his mission and called

[21:02]him Z bin Muhammad Salim was also adopted by Abu but when

[21:06]it was revealed nor has he made your adopted Sons like your

[21:11]real sons and you continue the Ayah call them by the names

[21:15]of their fathers then what happened over here then what happened this

[21:20]habit was abated before abating the adoption Salim lived in the same

[21:24]residence as abua and thus he used to come in and out

[21:26]of the house whenever he liked according to option it was lawful

[21:31]for him to enter upon S as a son son enters upon

[21:35]his mother but when this was abated that your adopted children are

[21:38]no not like your real children now there has to be a

[21:40]hijab doesn't there there has to be a hijab now because your

[21:45]adopted children are not like your real children if the mother had

[21:49]suckled with sucklings then that baby when it grows up the boy

[21:56]can the mother can ensure she doesn't wear hijab from the boy

[21:58]when he grows up if not then what's the only way there's

[22:02]no other way it's but not in this case look what it

[22:05]says but then was abated became unlawful for him to see her

[22:08]except in the way a strange one would see her so abua

[22:11]he was disturbed by that and he was not to accept that

[22:13]a strange one should see his wife and this is why and

[22:17]this was why the tra of discuss were visible in his face

[22:19]and since it was much more difficult for Sal to get an

[22:23]independent residence the messenger of Allah commanded her to suck him and

[22:27]to breastfeed him in order to become un lawful for him to

[22:30]marry how could she show her breast to him and how be

[22:34]he became strange to her and it was unlawful for him to

[22:38]see anything from her the solution is very simple let her get

[22:41]milk from her breast into a cup and give it to him

[22:43]okay so you've got this very interesting narration over here and then

[22:49]continues in Hadith 1944 look what it says 194 it's narrated on

[22:54]the same issue on the authority OFA that she said the Holy

[22:56]Verse pertaining to stoning the curers to death and suckling the young

[23:01]many times in order to make him a f the son was

[23:05]revealed and then it was abreg in Brackets even though it remained

[23:11]in a document underneath my bed but when the messenger of Allah

[23:17]died we were busy by the Affairs of his death a domestic

[23:20]goat entered and ate it okay so here what do we have

[23:27]we have this verse that was seemingly abated and it's very interesting

[23:32]that there are discussions that emerge from here about the abreg because

[23:37]you have of course when it comes to the world of abrogation

[23:40]sometimes the law is abated sometimes a verse in the Quran is

[23:44]abrogated by another verse in the Quran here AA says that what

[23:51]happened was that the verse is pertaining to stoning the adulterers to

[23:55]death and suckling the young many times were revealed but then they've

[24:03]gone missing I ask you a question is there a verse in

[24:06]the Quran about stoning adulterous to death can you find an Ayah

[24:13]in the Quran about stoning adulterous to death or not is there

[24:16]an ay in the Quran that talks about stoning adulterers to death

[24:20]we always hear that people who talk about Islam they say you

[24:23]guys stoned the adulterers is it in the Quran it's not there

[24:26]now it's interesting that at the end of this Hadith says that

[24:31]a goat came and ated this verse or this particular um document

[24:35]and of course in the Sunni World they will always turn around

[24:39]and say well number one what effect does that have on memorization

[24:42]even if it was done and number two they'll find ways to

[24:46]take the chain back to Malik and to say that Malik clearly

[24:48]proves that this is not acceptable because is on this area you

[24:55]don't take from is is sometimes do when he's narrating a Hadith

[24:58]you know you use them when you feel like it when he's

[25:03]needed he's needed if he's not needed then you say I ask

[25:07]again a question here says the Holy Verse pertaining to what the

[25:14]Holy Verse which was what when show me ay where's the verse

[25:30]on stoning you know many Muslims think there's an eye on stoning

[25:32]in the Quran there's no eye on stoning in the Quran so

[25:35]where's that a wait wait is the Shia have a different Quran

[25:40]no no I'm asking a question here if I'm allowed to because

[25:43]you know I you'll be told no you're not no I'm asking

[25:48]a question because you have to be a free thinker rather than

[25:51]inherit a religion where is a verse on stoning in the Quran

[25:56]because she seems to have something from God that I don't have

[25:59]I can look through this whole Quran I can see the derivatives

[26:06]of the word Raj there's no verse about stoning the adultery so

[26:17]where where's aa's version of this verse what's happened to it actually

[26:24]continues this come with me my dear brothers and sisters over here

[26:29]let's go my dear brothers and sisters to the sun of Abu

[26:33]da come with me over here the Sunan of Abu da English

[26:38]translation of the Sunan of Abu da over here compiled by who

[26:43]compiled by IM Abu da Volume 5 from 4351 to 5274 AI

[26:49]edited referenced by translated by Canada final review by who final review

[26:59]by Abu first edition July 2008 supervised by who ABD Malik mujah

[27:05]come with me over here my dear brothers and sisters we see

[27:08]over here if we come to the tradition which tradition 4418 let's

[27:15]see come with me over here 4418 it was narrated from abdah

[27:22]Ab that delivered a and said Allah sent Muhammad s alaih with

[27:26]the truth and revealed the book to him and amongst that which

[27:33]was revealed to him was the verse of stoning we recited it

[27:38]and understood it and the messenger of Allah stoned adulterers and we

[27:43]stoned them after him but I fear that with the passage of

[27:47]time some people will say we do not find the verse of

[27:49]stoning in the book of Allah and they will go astray by

[27:54]forsaking obligation that Allah revealed stoning is the Jew punishment for Those

[27:58]who commit Zena both men and women if they have been married

[28:01]and if proof is established or there is a pregnancy or a

[28:05]confession by Allah were it not that people would say that Omar

[28:08]had added something to the book of Allah I would have written

[28:14]it down un bathed was there an eye on stoning hold hold

[28:23]hold hold the hold the back pages hold the back pages a

[28:28]different yep the Shia have what a different Quran hold on a

[28:35]minute let's go back Allah said Muhammad the truth and revealed the

[28:39]book to him and amongst the that which was revealed to him

[28:44]was the verse of stoning when what happened to there was an

[29:13]ay called they're saying there's an Ayah called over here let me

[29:16]go to over here join me join me I need to understand

[29:18]where's this Ayah disappeared to no no of course what then begins

[29:23]to happen is all these arguments begin to emerge it was recited

[29:28]but it was AB okay was it part of the Quran or

[29:33]not part of the Quran if it was just recited why is

[29:34]Allah sending us something just to recite it's not going to be

[29:38]the holy book I don't mind abreg okay an Ayah could be

[29:41]abated by another Ayah alcohol alcohol alcohol ay for example and then

[29:49]it was abated but where's the Ayah I'm going to leave the

[29:52]goat and the Sheep alone okay the goat and the Sheep the

[29:56]at the end of the day even if the goat and sheep

[29:59]eat a part of the Quran others are memorized but where's the

[30:01]Ayah of the I don't know where the AY is gone come

[30:05]with meari over here my dear brother sisters alari Arabic English volume

[30:10]6 4474 to 5062 translated by who translated by Dr M Khan

[30:16]printing in July 1997 printing supervised by Abdul Malik muah King fad

[30:22]National Library cataloging in publication data let's all go to Hadith number

[30:27]4555 six my dear brothers sisters join me over here let's see

[30:32]this again because this Ayah I want to look for it I

[30:34]would love to know about this verse about stoning cuz all we

[30:38]ever get attacked on us Muslims is that we believe in stoning

[30:41]the adulteress and apparently it was an A in the Quran but

[30:43]where it's gone I'm not sure come with me over here page

[30:47]72 my dear brothers and sisters let's come down to sixth chapter

[30:51]say oh Muhammad s bring here the tat and recite it if

[30:55]you are truthful 5 4556 IB Omar narrates the Jews brought to

[31:00]the prophet a man and a woman from amongst them who had

[31:02]committed illegal sexual intercourse the prophet said to them how do you

[31:09]usually punish the one amongst you as committed illegal sexual intercourse they

[31:14]replied we blacken their faces with coal and beat them he said

[31:18]don't you find the order of re stoning to death in the

[31:21]tat they replied we do not find anything in it Abdullah Salam

[31:23]after hearing this conversation said to them you have told a lie

[31:26]bring here the torat and recite it of you're truthful so the

[31:31]Jews brought the torat and saw the religious teacher who was teaching

[31:34]it to them put his hand over the verse of of of

[31:38]a and started reading what was written above and below the place

[31:41]with his Hidden Hand but he did not read the verse of

[31:46]Abdullah Salam removed his teacher's hand from the verse of AR and

[31:50]said what is this so when the Jews saw that verse they

[31:51]said this is the verse of a so the prophet ordered that

[31:55]both the adulterer and the adulterous be stoned to death and they

[31:57]were stoned to death near the place where is this Ayah of

[32:02]you're telling me that there was an aah on stoning the adulterer

[32:08]and the adulterous and if I'm not mistaken you'll see that this

[32:12]even baffled certain people certain people were absolutely baffled by this that

[32:17]there's a verse about Raj but it's not there anymore how do

[32:20]we reconcile the fact that this verse on re is mentioned but

[32:23]it's not there anymore come with me again look over herei on

[32:28]the this missing versei Arabic English Volume 8 a 5970 to 6560

[32:34]translated by Dr M Khan daram July 1997 printing supervised by Abdul

[32:46]Malik mujahid come with me over here let's go to 6829 and

[32:49]see what it says again please everybody look at this narrated IB

[32:55]AB Omar said I am afraid that after a long time has

[32:57]passed people may say we do not find the verses of the

[33:02]re stoning to death in Allah's book and consequently they may go

[33:05]astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed I confirm that

[33:10]the penalty of re be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual

[33:14]intercourse if he is already married and the crime is provided by

[33:19]Witnesses or pregnancy or confessions sufyan added I have memorized the narration

[33:24]in this way Omar added surely Allah's messenger carried out the penalty

[33:30]of re and so did we after him what do I find

[33:36]can I find the eye of R I defy anyone from our

[33:41]non brothers and sisters who are watching where is the verse of

[33:44]R in the Quran I think clip number three if I'm not

[33:46]mistaken is a discussion Amir is a discussion clip number three if

[33:52]I'm not mistaken not number two but number three is a discussion

[33:55]about the verse of stoning you'll see on the title maybe we'll

[33:57]play that discussion and see the interesting different analysis that could have

[34:02]been given so that we give it its Fair Jews where this

[34:08]ay disappeared to please play verse clip number three there was another

[34:13]interesting discussion as well I'll just touch up on it was to

[34:16]do with uh you know sometimes you have these Hadith speaking about

[34:19]like some of the companions like SAR saying oh I used to

[34:26]read in the Quran there was a verse about about stoning people

[34:29]but I recall reading it but it's not there anymore now what

[34:36]an interesting point that came up in this discussion and I never

[34:40]really thought about it before even though it wasn't when I heard

[34:43]it it was like oh yeah what of course was that you

[34:50]see was in um during the prophet's lifetime was very fond as

[34:59]of the people of the Jewish scripture now uh so there's a

[35:06]famous Hadith that the prophet came past and he saw said Omar

[35:09]reading and he said yeah Omar what are you uh reading and

[35:16]said it's the Torah and then he says he says this is

[35:21]the Torah that was given to Moses like in this whole sense

[35:29]um this whole sense of uh kind of awe in this narration

[35:32]that wow and you have to remember the Jewish people were like

[35:38]the academics amongst because the Arabs were emerging from a illiterate Society

[35:44]so to they would be naturally in awe of a academic Community

[35:48]a community of scribes a community of documentation of um a community

[35:54]that registers things that puts things down so he tells the prophet

[35:58]that y this is from Moses you know the book that came

[36:06]to Moses and the prophet says even if Moses was alive he

[36:10]would be following me now the interesting thing here is I'm just

[36:14]saying that this story and some people are saying is it sah

[36:19]or whatever I think this incident whether it's transmitted with those same

[36:22]words or whatever it is in the sah narration but whether they're

[36:25]problematic or not I would feel that that is a valid incident

[36:29]that it actually happened something like that did happen but my understanding

[36:34]would be that when Omar if this be true that he was

[36:37]saying we've read this in the Quran this must have been his

[36:42]recollection of what he read in the Torah and he assumed that

[36:48]was in the Quran because those things to do with stoning were

[36:54]in the Torah so when he said later on at a much

[36:57]later State remember this is probably uh you know we're going over

[37:02]a decade and a half maybe later even something like that towards

[37:06]the end of his life when he's saying that you know oh

[37:10]I remember we read that in the Quran but it's not there

[37:12]that this may have been what he read in the Torah and

[37:19]he assumed like over time and so many incidents that because it

[37:25]was scripture that he may have thought wasn't it the Quran and

[37:29]he assumed it to be the Quran uh that's an an understanding

[37:32]I mean I think generally that's the best plausible understand Muti come

[37:38]on Muti you have very good discussions you mean well you're a

[37:43]man who tries to re examine even some of the opinions but

[37:46]to say that Omar remembered a verse of the Jews and he

[37:50]wasn't sure if it was in the Quran is clearly saying over

[37:53]here it says here in the Hadith it says very clearly Omar

[37:55]said I'm afraid that after a long time people may say we

[38:00]do not find the verses of theim in Allah's book where's the

[38:03]Ayah of stoning will someone please tell me where it's gone if

[38:07]it was just recited if it was just recited and then got

[38:12]abrogated why are we reciting something that was meant to be in

[38:14]the Quran but then is suddenly no longer meant to be in

[38:17]the Quran if you told me there was an Ayah in the

[38:20]Quran and it got abreg by another Ayah in a different SW

[38:24]I'll accept but what's happening with this it's unbelievable and it doesn't

[38:29]stop there this whole idea of stoning a verse on stoning missing

[38:32]I've searched this Quran Inside Out honestly this Quran I've looked every

[38:37]single aspect of this holy book I cannot find the verse Omar's

[38:40]talking about I don't know where the verse is that AA was

[38:46]mentioning about 10 sucklings so that somebody at home can become like

[38:48]your son and you give him a some milk and so on

[38:53]I don't know where the verse is anywhere over here my dear

[38:54]brother sisters and I'll keep looking keep of course the sh have

[38:59]a different Quran don't forget that sh have a different Quran but

[39:01]where's the verse on where's the verse onim where's the verse actually

[39:04]I'm going to stop here at this Surah I I really likeah

[39:09]do you like I loveah is a lovely lovely Surah of the

[39:12]Quran is Surah 33 of the Quran and I want all of

[39:17]you to agree with me on one thing at home as Muslims

[39:21]something we can unite on this month and that is that is

[39:23]a Sur which is what which is made up of how many

[39:31]verses let me see is made up of if the uh camera

[39:37]can zoom into me let's see it's made up of how many

[39:40]verses it ends at zoom in now 73 verses the Quran ends

[39:48]with 73 verses said no it was actually much longer than that

[39:53]but there's verses missing hold hold hold hold did I did you

[40:00]just hear me properly because you may not have heard me properly

[40:03]just now I said that the Quan that I have right in

[40:09]front of me has how many verses 73 what if I were

[40:10]to show you that actually originally had 200 but we're missing all

[40:13]of them we've only got 73 left join me over here the

[40:20]famous of who join me over here as we look at this

[40:25]wonderful book over here how Wonder Wonder ful this is if we

[40:31]zoom into it it would be even nicer as you could all

[40:35]see that this is the eighth volume of my dear brothers and

[40:44]sisters it is vital that we have all in front of us

[40:47]here all of you could see over here and we have very

[40:54]well here that the head office ises sh Muslim [Music] and so

[41:00]on the Syrian Arabic Republic but you've also got Beirut Lebanon over

[41:05]here 2018 let's go my dear brothers and sisters and look for

[41:09]and see whether was how big in the beginning I'm no no

[41:13]hold on hold on hold on hold on the Quran says today

[41:15]the Quran is 73 ayat of could it be any different let's

[41:20]see what it says over here we've got this Hadith Hadith number

[41:25]8,2 [Music] 67 all of you can see it over here and

[41:31]the Hadith what's it telling used Muhammed from from and it continues

[41:44]to say what happened here one of the most important figures when

[41:49]it comes to the compilation of the Quran how is everyone reading

[41:57]how many a 73 a that's it yep he said I saw

[42:17]it and it was the same as what how many things have

[42:39]happened all that once number one says that we used to read

[42:46]it the length of hold on a minute hold on hold on

[42:51]hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on

[42:52]hold on so you're saying that which is 73 ayak how many

[43:00]286 73 is saying we used to read it the same as

[43:05]so where are all those 200 eyes also gone where are they

[43:10]what's happened a goat cannot eat that much the Sheep even if

[43:12]they're starving no chance there's too many memories of the Quran and

[43:16]Allah has promised that he'll protect the Quran so what's happening over

[43:20]here not just that my dear brothers and sisters there's an Ayah

[43:22]here that's not in the Quran come back over here does she

[43:26]have a different Quran she have a different Quran she have a

[43:28]Quran come back come back come back hold on hold on hold

[43:37]on hold on hold on where's this Ayah from there's a new

[43:44]Ayah which none of us have heard but obey has heard the

[43:50]Shia have a different Quran not just a different Quran my dear

[43:54]brothers and sisters not just a different Quran the sh may even

[44:00]read the Quran they say it's different no I'm seeing here different

[44:04]ay a s that was now 73 it's the same size of

[44:10]Bak I don't know where those a have gone then we see

[44:14]over here that even some of the ways the AAS are read

[44:16]may be different so I just showed you two baffling eyes that

[44:20]we can't see in the Quran stoning have you seen an eye

[44:21]on ston in the Quran no said there's an eye on stoning

[44:25]none of us know where it is have you seen an eye

[44:29]on no so we don't know where that Ayah is gone imagine

[44:31]a non-muslim if W this is what hurts me if a non-muslim

[44:35]hears this he'll be all over us but don't worry the followers

[44:37]of we have our answers don't you worry about that if you

[44:41]come over here and you'll see my dear brother this time volume

[44:49]four of my dear brothers and sisters again of and if you

[44:54]come with me over here my dear brothers and sisters and you

[45:00]you will see that there is in the compilation of those who

[45:05]left the Quran for us you will see that they mention something

[45:11]interesting we have over here from IB Abbas on page 438 from

[45:19]IB Abbas how did he read he used to read he used

[45:25]to read this Ayah all of you know the Ayah Surah 33

[45:28]ver six what is the actual Ayah if I put the Ayah

[45:39]right next to how according to the must used to read AB

[45:46]according to the must used to read this Ayah Surah 33 if

[45:48]the camera can get me both That'll be amazing okay Surah 33

[45:54]verse number six of the Quran this Ayah of you in the

[45:57]qurans we have at home you could see I don't if I

[46:02]put them both next to each other okay look over here and

[46:06]on this side over here please on this side if you could

[46:11]do it or I'll bring it here he is saying that what

[46:22]he used to read the Ayah this has got to tell me

[46:37]where is this Ayah that AB refers to again I'm not sure

[46:42]but inshallah one day we'll find out did the goats eat it

[46:44]that the sheep eat it that the Jews indoctrinate because all of

[46:46]these arguments they bring out W I don't even want to go

[46:50]into them then you'll have others which are what then we'll come

[46:53]over here you know that everybody says man's mus was the only

[47:00]mus it wasn't the only mus people had theirs and of them

[47:05]and abdah they had their had his and you had of course

[47:12]and others they all had their opinion of what was in the

[47:16]Quran this is one of the most important works for anyone to

[47:22]read to see the variance on what was in and what's not

[47:24]in the Sunni version of the narrations of the Quran this book

[47:29]this is of course the work of who this is the work

[47:34]ofah the son of as what he is known as you would

[47:46]have heard his name frequently we have this book over here and

[47:50]you'll see over here and you will see publication when 19 83

[47:58]you come to this and I want you to come to page

[48:02]291 my dear brothers and sisters we'll see over here the mus

[48:10]of who come to page 291 the mus of you'll see over

[48:17]here that in his reading of the Ayah on on the temporary

[48:21]marriage Surah 4 verse 24 what does he say this particular Ayah

[48:28]he says very clearly my dear brother and sisters if we bring

[48:32]out the Ayah and I put the Ayah next to his reading

[48:36]we said the Quran was protected everybody believed it was protected there

[48:40]was no changes to the Quran the sh have a different Quran

[48:43]come with me Surah 4 verse number 24 let's go over here

[48:49]and let's see exactly what's taking place my dear brothers and sisters

[48:53]you'll see that the Ayah here on temporary marriage comes here if

[48:56]you come to the the bottom over here it zoom in over

[49:03]here [Music] please those who you have a time with of enjoyment

[49:14]give them their daries as a fixed reward let's see abani Al

[49:30]not Al not Al not even though if you said mash and

[49:39]about an early scholar he probably Sunni anyway because these were all

[49:45]Iranian Scholars who were Sunny up until much later on but you

[49:48]come back anyway over here what do we see we see that

[49:52]he would read it as we see Abdullah is telling us from

[49:55]Abu Ahmed Isa Omar and so [Music] on if you see in

[50:14]the Quran did I say so where is this move on slightly

[50:19]to the ofah just a couple of pages later all of you

[50:26]could see him the mus of abdah at the bottom page 293

[50:30]let's go to the next page page 294 again and he used

[50:36]to read what is itd used to read it as what he

[50:52]used to read it so therefore we have that even over here

[51:01]abdah and there are words which the Quran has today missing I

[51:08]don't know where those other ay are gone I don't know where

[51:12]it's gone everyone said the sh these people believe in a different

[51:16]Quran buddy buddy I look at your Quran and your mosque you

[51:18]look at my Quran we have the same Quran but if you

[51:22]want to open the door then that's a different ball game alog

[51:25]together and that's why you'll see over here very clearly my dear

[51:29]brothers and sisters that in this text a really interesting text I

[51:32]must admit Reflections on the collection of the Quran really worth reading

[51:39]say sik Hass forward byass aliwi Quran Arabic Foundation we will see

[51:44]over here my dear brothers and sisters what do we see over

[51:47]here the British library cataloging in publication data say sadik Hassan Reflections

[51:54]on the collection of the Holy Quran and it is PR where

[51:57]you could see small Coventry Road small Heath you will come over

[52:04]here to page 73 the allegation which allegation about the what are

[52:11]they there are a few reports to the effect that the last

[52:16]two suras of the Quran did not figure in abdullah's copy of

[52:19]the Quran rather he used to remove these from the Quran there

[52:28]are Hani Scholars who would do of a person who believes that

[52:34]the Quran has been altered but the problem is they have to

[52:39]do of abdah and more if a person turns around and that

[52:42]person says that abdah didn't believe the MU no listen don't get

[52:48]me wrong the Sunni reading has made excuses as this man has

[52:51]made that the chain of narrations is not correct or there's other

[52:54]reasons no problem no problem no problem my point is there's no

[53:00]verse on stoning I anyone who can find me that verse anything

[53:03]that you want I'll do for you but I don't know where

[53:06]it is it must have reached the world of angels and Jin

[53:08]where is the verse of the 10 uh sucklings what I don't

[53:13]know where that verse is can you please show me how was

[53:15]the length of bakar I'm actually baffled how it's the length of

[53:20]bakar can someone please tell me how AAS like included if this

[53:31]was a text they'd make a billion videos about how we mus

[53:36]who have a different Quran you see the interesting thing is when

[53:41]you do these lectures You'll Always Find The Other Side they'll come

[53:47]at this time and say when they realize these lectures are being

[53:50]done why are we discussing these things but when you discuss it

[53:57]no one can open their mouth when Abu B Phillips all those

[54:00]years was discussing and when Y and his Sala Heyday was discussing

[54:07]and when others were writing against us and in yourb you were

[54:10]calling us non-muslims or you were slandering our books and our Scholars

[54:13]and until today you slander us after every single video that's not

[54:21]a time for dialogue only when I speak is it now a

[54:23]time for Unity between the Muslims you don't set the time period

[54:29]do I decide when it's time not you I'm the one who

[54:31]dictates when it's time to speak about these things never you you

[54:37]have your perspective on the world I have my perspective on the

[54:40]world you don't decide what month is Unity month I decide when

[54:45]it is theological Unity cannot be achieved but it's better that we

[54:50]at least understand each other's Heritage social Unity is needed where we

[54:55]work with each other as human beings on pressing issues affecting the

[55:01]Muslim world but theological it's better that we admit each other's literature

[55:06]and open it up and read it and understand its Heritage because

[55:10]this area baffled even your guys if you come to this final

[55:14]clip you'll see how Y and mamed in trying to understand what's

[55:21]happened with these modes of recitals why is it that abdah wasn't

[55:27]it just one line of Quran why do people have different lines

[55:31]of Quran different understandings you'll see for the next few minutes how

[55:35]they go back and forth to begin to ask themselves what happened

[55:38]to the Quran in the Sunni world please play it let me

[55:45]ask you one question to try and make this as specific as

[55:50]possible I think if I were to give you a blank mus

[55:52]yeah and uh and tell you to write what is verba him

[55:58]from Allah into that mus with no human interference would you write

[56:03]something which correspond it's not an easy answer it's not an easy

[56:08]yes or no it is enough for the Muslim to believe that

[56:10]I think this should be an easy yes or no though yes

[56:14]have okay very well so yeah Muhammad after we get off this

[56:17]phone call me and you let's have a number of discussions no

[56:21]problem I'll leave it at that and sometimes better you know when

[56:27]people begin to attack and slam the others that sometimes their houses

[56:29]have got many cracks but with many different opinions and many different

[56:32]readings and it's super fine if you have your reading just don't

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6. The Quran, The Sheep & The Missing Verses | Sayed Ammar Nakshawani | Ramadan 2025

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6. The Quran, The Sheep & The Missing Verses | Sayed Ammar Nakshawani | Ramadan 2025

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