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5. Imam Ali’s Compilation of the Qur’an | Sayed Ammar Nakshawani | Ramadan 2026
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[3:03]All praise is due to the Lord, master of all the worlds.
[3:05]And peace and blessings be on all his prophets and especially the
[3:11]final prophet, the holy prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi.
[3:14]My dear brothers and sisters, on this Sunday night in London after
[3:21]Liverpool and Arsenal have just won, we are live on Im Hussein
[3:27]TV with each and every one of you to look at the
[3:29]compilation of the Quran by Imam Ali Ali.
[3:34]A question concerning who compiled the Holy Quran is an interesting one.
[3:40]If you were to ask yourself as a Muslim irrespective of whichever
[3:43]sect you belong to Sunni or Shia, who compiled the Holy Quran
[3:47]and what do you know about Imam Ali Alisam being the compiler
[3:51]of the Holy Quran?
[3:54]These are two very interesting questions to reflect upon because this area
[3:59]of Quranic studies and who compiled the Quran that we have with
[4:02]us today is a very interesting area and sometimes not discussed with
[4:07]the depth that it deserves.
[4:09]Obviously, we have a relationship with the Holy Quran and on many
[4:12]occasions we wonder how were these suras compiled?
[4:15]How were they put into an order?
[4:18]How were the verses placed in an order?
[4:21]And you hear a number of different answers in relation to the
[4:24]origin of the Quran and its compilation.
[4:26]that even led in London by the way a few decades ago
[4:30]to some non-Muslim scholars concluding that this Quran is a book that
[4:34]was written a few hundred years after the holy prophet peace be
[4:39]upon him and his family died and that the Quran was a
[4:41]copy of Jewish and Christian literature and therefore the Quran couldn't be
[4:45]trusted because there were so many contradictions about the issue of compilation
[4:49]of the Holy Quran.
[4:51]So if I was to ask each and every one of you
[4:53]at home when was the Quran compiled and who compiled the Quran
[4:59]you'll normally see that even amongst Islamic scholars some of the highest
[5:03]names that you would have heard of there are different opinions that
[5:05]are given and there are always different things that are mentioned.
[5:08]So one group of people will say to you that the Quran
[5:13]was of course compiled in the time of the holy prophet peace
[5:15]be upon him and his family.
[5:19]The holy prophet compiled or ordered the compilation of the Quran and
[5:23]it was compiled in his lifetime.
[5:25]There were normally four main scribes who are the scribes associated in
[5:30]Sunni and Shia literature as being the scribes who were ordered to
[5:35]write the revelation of God and they are of course Zab and
[5:40]of course who and imbat.
[5:46]So what we have over here my dear brothers and sisters is
[5:49]that Imam Ali is known in Sunni and Shia literature as one
[5:52]of the main scribes of the revelation.
[5:54]If there were four people who were ordered at one stage or
[6:02]another or who we know had aic codeex then it would be
[6:06]one of these four.
[6:06]Sunni and Shia all agree that these are the four main names
[6:13]who are involved in the compilation of the Quran.
[6:15]The fifth name that we normally hear about when it comes to
[6:20]the Quran is of course the thirdman.
[6:22]So we always hear about the coders and the whole idea of
[6:28]thismani text is the one that we have with us until today
[6:31]was the one that was collectively agreed upon by all the Muslims.
[6:35]Now someone's in a bit of a conundrum here.
[6:39]What is the mus of Ibas?
[6:39]What's the mus of Kaib?
[6:40]What's the mus of Zit?
[6:44]What's the musaf of Imam Ali Alisam?
[6:46]When did I im Ali compile the Quran?
[6:49]And what is the Quran of Imam Ali Alisam?
[6:53]Is the content exactly the same as the content of the Quran
[6:55]that we have with us today?
[6:58]Or is the content different or is the order different to the
[7:01]Quran that we have with us today?
[7:03]But the content being exactly the same.
[7:06]So one school emerged and they said that the Quran was compiled
[7:11]in the time of the holy prophet peace be upon him and
[7:13]his family.
[7:15]When you ask them why they say look at a few evidences.
[7:17]Number one that the prophet himself said I leave behind for you
[7:23]two weighty things the Quran and my how could you leave behind
[7:27]something which has not yet been compiled.
[7:30]So for example favored this opinion in his famous work which all
[7:35]of you would have come across and you will see within there
[7:41]that has discussed that look the prophet said I leave behind for
[7:44]you the Quran and how could you leave behind something which has
[7:48]not yet been compiled.
[7:51]A second proof that is often given is that Omar Abdil Katab
[7:54]himself said that the Quran is sufficient for us when the prophet
[7:58]peace be upon him his family asked for repentant paper and Omar
[8:03]called him delirious on his deathbed and said the Quran is sufficient
[8:07]for us Allah we all know the tradition.
[8:10]So we have this area that the first opinion is that the
[8:16]Quran was compiled when the Quran was compiled in the time of
[8:19]the holy prophet peace be upon him and his family.
[8:23]And you have scholars in this school who will say that the
[8:26]verses were coming down and coming down and coming down and originally
[8:29]they were in chronological order.
[8:31]And then the prophet peace be upon his family for example in
[8:35]the last year of his life when Jabrail came to talk to
[8:37]him about the Quran twice he knew it was the final year
[8:41]of his life and he's the one who said this is the
[8:42]order of where verses go in the Quran.
[8:45]So when it comes to the verses, this group of scholars said
[8:50]amongst other Shia scholars as well that the verses order was from
[8:55]the Lord whereas the surah order for example may have come from
[8:59]the opinions of different personalities at that time.
[9:04]So the first opinion is that the Quran was compiled in the
[9:07]time of the holy prophet peace be upon him and his family.
[9:11]There are Shia who subscribe to this.
[9:13]There are Shia who reject this and they say no the Quran
[9:15]was compiled after the holy prophet peace be upon him and his
[9:21]family passed away.
[9:22]They say it's impossible for the Quran to have been compiled in
[9:27]his lifetime.
[9:26]You had to get all of these people who have the their
[9:30]memories and the parchment.
[9:31]You bring all of this together, the different scrolls where everyone has
[9:37]written wherever they've written and that would be undertaken by Imam Ali
[9:42]after the prophet died.
[9:45]Some said no.
[9:45]Another of the theories about the compilation of the holy Quran comes
[9:49]forward and states that the first compilation of the holy Quran was
[9:56]done by who?
[9:55]Was done by the first califf.
[9:57]The first califf was the first to have undertaken the compilation of
[10:03]the holy Quran.
[10:03]If we look in Sah Bkari over here, you'll see in Sah
[10:09]Bkari the translation of the meanings of Sah Bkari.
[10:12]Everyone come over here Arabic English volume 9 a hadith 6561 to
[10:21]7563 translated by Dr.
[10:21]Muhammad Minhan.
[10:22]Over here you can see Dar Salam publishers and distributors printed in
[10:25]July 1997 printing supervised by Abdul Malik Mujah.
[10:30]I want you to come with me here to hadith 7191.
[10:35]In the Sunni world you'll see and we don't really disagree with
[10:39]what took place in this particular moment.
[10:42]You'll see in hadith number 7191 of the names we mentioned Zin
[10:49]Tabit is discussing over here.
[10:50]Look what he says.
[10:50]He says, as you can see all over here, what is he
[11:12]scared of?
[11:13]That the casualties amongst the Quran.
[11:15]So here you have Zbin Fab saying Abu Bakr sent for me
[11:18]owing to the large number of casualties in the battle of Yama
[11:21]where many of the memorizers of the Quran were killed while Omar
[11:25]was sitting with him.
[11:25]Abu Bakr said to me Omar has come to me and said
[11:28]a great number of those who know the Quran by heart were
[11:30]killed on the day of the battle of Yama and I'm afraid
[11:35]that the casualties amongst the Qur of the Quran may increase on
[11:38]other battlefields whereby a large part of the Quran may be lost.
[11:41]Therefore, I consider it advisable that you Abu Bakr should have the
[11:47]Quran collected.
[11:47]I said, listen to what Abu Bakr says.
[11:52]Of course, here we have also the mentioning of Zade.
[11:53]I said, how dare I do something which Allah's messenger did not
[11:58]do?
[11:59]Very interesting over here.
[12:00]How could I compile the Quran when Allah's messenger didn't?
[12:02]So, here's the theory that there wasn't compilation of the Quran, especially
[12:05]in the Sunni world.
[12:07]Not all opinions, but the majority in the time of the prophet.
[12:10]No, Abu Bakr is the first to compile the whole Quran.
[12:14]Come back with me over here.
[12:15]Therefore, I consider it advisable that you Abu Bakr should have the
[12:18]Quran collected.
[12:19]I said, how dare I do something which Allah's messenger did not
[12:22]do.
[12:23]Omar said, by Allah, it is something beneficial.
[12:26]Omar kept on pressing me for that till Allah opened my chest
[12:29]for that for which he had opened the chest of Omar and
[12:33]I had in that matter the same opinion as Omar had.
[12:35]Abu Bakr then said to me, "Zade, you are a wise young
[12:39]man and we do not have any suspicion about you and you
[12:42]used to write the divine revelation for let's go to the top
[12:48]here for Allah's messenger.
[12:48]So you should search for the fragmentaryary scripts of the Quran and
[12:52]collect it in one book." Zade further said, "By Allah, if Abu
[12:57]Bakr had ordered me to shift a mountain amongst the mountains from
[13:00]one place to another, it would not have been heavier for me
[13:07]than this ordering me to collect the Quran." Then I said to
[13:10]Omar, "How can you do something which Allah's messenger did not do?"
[13:18]Okay, how could you do something which Allah's messenger did not do?
[13:22]Abu Bakr said by Allah it's something beneficial.
[13:24]So he Abu Bakr kept on pressing me for that until Allah
[13:27]opened my chest for that for which he had opened the chests
[13:32]of what?
[13:32]Until he had opened the chest of Abaka and Omar and I
[13:36]had in that matter the same opinion there.
[13:37]So I started compiling the Quran by collecting it from the leafless
[13:40]stalks of the date palm tree and from the pieces of leather
[13:44]and hides and from the stones and from the chests of men
[13:46]who had memorized the Quran.
[13:48]I found the last verses of surah to Toba.
[13:50]ity that has come unto you a messenger from amongst yourselves from
[13:54]Abu and I added to the rest of the surah the manuscripts
[13:58]of the Quran remained with Abu Bakr till Allah took him unto
[14:02]him.
[14:03]Then it remained with Omar until Allah took him unto him and
[14:09]then with Hapsa the daughter of Omar.
[14:10]What do we have over here my dear brothers and sisters?
[14:13]We have that Abu Bakr and Omar order for the compilation of
[14:16]the holy Quran.
[14:18]They ask Zade now Zade younger than Obeay and the rest of
[14:21]them and they probably think that he's not going to be the
[14:25]person who is efficient or sufficient for even this task.
[14:27]But they see that it's a very important moment.
[14:31]They compile the Quran and this Quran remains with Abu Bakr.
[14:34]Then he passes it to Omar and then he gives it to
[14:38]Hafsa his daughter.
[14:40]Hafsa eventually takes it out in the time of who?
[14:41]She takes it out in the time of Oman.
[14:44]And when she takes it out in the time of man, Oman
[14:48]does not think that this is sufficient.
[14:51]Then Otman eventually orders as we will see mentioned over here that
[14:57]Oman eventually orders for the compilation of the Quran.
[14:59]Come with me over here.
[15:02]My dear brothers and sisters and you will see Bkari volume number
[15:05]six.
[15:06]All of you can see over here a hadith 4474 to 5062
[15:10]translated by Dr.
[15:13]Dam publishers and distributors printed in July 1997.
[15:18]Printing supervised by Abd Melik Mahid.
[15:22]Come with me over here my dear brothers and sisters.
[15:26]4987.
[15:27]Eventually we reach bin Afan and bin Afan is there with the
[15:31]famous compilation that takes place.
[15:33]Everybody knows about this.
[15:38]Look over here.
[15:36]narrated and bin Malik 4987 ha came to man at the time
[15:42]when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were waging
[15:43]war to conquer Armenia and Azaran hva was afraid of their the
[15:49]people of Sham and Iraq's differences in the recitation of the Quran
[15:52]so he said to man oh chief of the believers save this
[15:54]nation before they differ about the Quran as the Jews and the
[16:00]Christians did before them so man sent a message to Hapsa saying
[16:03]send us the manuscript of the Quran so so that we may
[16:08]compile the Quranic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscript to
[16:14]you.
[16:15]Ha sent it to man then ordered Abdah and Hasham to copy
[16:22]the manuscript perfectly perfect perfectly man said to the three men in
[16:28]case you disagree with Zav on any point in the Quran then
[16:30]write it in the dialect of Quraysh as the Quran was revealed
[16:34]in their tongue they did so and when they had written many
[16:38]copies returned the original manuscripts to Hapsamman sent to every Muslim province
[16:42]one copy of what they had copied and ordered that all the
[16:46]other Quranic materials whether written in fragmentaryary manuscripts or whole copies be
[16:52]burnt.
[16:53]So we have Awak Omar Omar's daughter Hafsa and firmly in charge
[17:00]of the religion of Islam and very firmly in charge of making
[17:04]sure that the Quran is compiled.
[17:04]It's protected.
[17:07]It's under her bed.
[17:08]It's bought out to man.
[17:10]Oman decides that look, we've got all of these different people with
[17:14]different recitals.
[17:13]We stick on one collective version for the Muslim community.
[17:18]And he wants to make sure that the committee is a strong
[17:22]committee.
[17:22]He assesses it according to the hapsah manuscript that she has and
[17:26]so therefore there is a certain diligence to making sure that the
[17:30]Quran is compiled and that Quran is with us until today.
[17:41]However, we have evidence in literature that imat was the first compiler
[17:46]of the holy Quran.
[17:46]Normally in western academic literature, you'll always hear this narrative that it's
[17:54]either from Abu Bakr to Yamama and the battle of Yamama.
[17:59]But then there is discussion in non Shia literature and in Shia
[18:08]literature that Imam Albam compiled the Quran was involved in the compilation
[18:14]at the time of the holy prophet and as soon as the
[18:17]holy prophet passed away peace be upon him and his family.
[18:19]We know very well there is no way that I im Ali
[18:24]Alisam who is the foremost in knowledge after the holy prophet peace
[18:28]be upon his family when it comes to the Quran.
[18:31]There is absolutely no way that I im Ali Alisam has just
[18:35]sat there and not been involved in compiling the Quran.
[18:37]For nobody knows the chronology of the Quran like Ali and none
[18:40]knows the like Ali and none knows the like Ali and none
[18:46]knows the verses of abrogation what's abregated like Im Ali and none
[18:50]has the memory or the or the of Alisam.
[18:53]If you look for example which book can I give you?
[18:57]If you look for example at as one of the most important
[19:04]books on this area let's look at the over here.
[19:05]Okay, all of you know of course the book of the fifth
[19:14]century.
[19:15]All of you know the publishers of course famous publishers in Syrian
[19:22]Arabic Republic.
[19:21]But of course you have Beirut Lebanon.
[19:24]You have over here all of you can see that this is
[19:30]the of Hakmani.
[19:30]And of course this addition critically analyzed by Muhammad Camil all of
[19:38]you can see Dr.
[19:38]Muhammad as well as we can all see over here my dear
[19:42]brothers and sisters but there's something very important for us to realize
[19:48]when we're looking over here and that is that im when it
[19:52]comes to the Quran nobody is more learned than the Imam on
[19:58]the Holy Quran and that the Imam himself knows this book better
[20:02]than anybody else and nobody has the knowledge of this book like
[20:07]immally is explaining to everybody how and the prophet is also making
[20:23]it clear exactly how I immob knowledge of the holy Quran and
[20:37]all the details of the holy Quran like Immis he is the
[20:43]one who's the most learned on the holy book he is the
[20:47]one who understands the holy book better than anybody else and therefore
[20:52]nobody is in a position like I im Ali when it comes
[20:54]to the holy book as the prophet would keep on talking about
[20:59]his knowledge of the holy Quran and of course this is attested
[21:02]to in numerous numerous places but especially Actually, if when a person
[21:07]looks in the you'll see that there's a few hadiths where this
[21:12]is obvious.
[21:12]This is one of them.
[21:13]If everybody comes with me over here, please come to the top
[21:18]here.
[21:19]Look at this over here.
[21:20]Of course, this is hadith number 4,679.
[21:24]Look over here, my dear brothers and sisters.
[21:35]Ali is with the Quran and the Quran is with Ali.
[21:40]They won't separate until they come back to me at the pool.
[21:45]H the we know that this is hadith which is according to
[21:50]who according to so I imam without a doubt is fundamental in
[22:00]the compilation of the holy Quran when does he do this?
[22:03]Ah the answer to when he does this is directly after the
[22:10]holy prophet peace be upon him and his family has passed away.
[22:14]We all know that there is this interesting six months between the
[22:20]prophet's passing away and the passing away of fatham in Sunni literature
[22:29]where imis abstains from everything according to Sunni narrative abstains from giving
[22:34]be to the first khalifa until a six-month period is over.
[22:41]The question is what's happening in that six months?
[22:43]Even if we say father Alisam died a couple of months after
[22:47]her father the other four months what's happening with Imam Ali Alisam
[22:50]because we know very well that Imam Ali Alisam in that sixmonth
[22:53]period it's mentioned in Bkari come over here sah bkari Arabic English
[22:56]volume 5 a hadith number 3,849 to 4,473 translated by Dr.
[23:09]Muhammad Minhan you come over here July 1997 Abd Malik Mujah come
[23:14]with me over here on page 332 it's the six-month period which
[23:20]to me is very very important all of you can see over
[23:23]here at the bottom 4240 narrated the daughter of the prophet sent
[23:31]someone to Abu Bakr when he was Khalifa asking for her inheritance
[23:34]of what Allah's messenger had left of the property bestow bestowed on
[23:37]him by Allah from the fate in al- Medina and Fedak and
[23:42]what remained of the of that Abu Bakr said Allah's messenger said
[23:45]our property is not inherited whatever we leave but the family of
[23:48]Muhammad can eat from this property by Allah I will not make
[23:52]any change in the state of the saddak of Allah's messenger and
[23:54]will leave it as it is during the lifetime of Allah's messenger
[23:58]will dispose of it as Allah's messenger used to do so Abu
[24:02]Bakr refused to give anything of that toam so she became became
[24:07]angry with Abu Bakr.
[24:07]This is Bkari and kept away from him and did not talk
[24:11]to him till she died.
[24:11]She remained alive for 6 months after the death of the prophet.
[24:16]When she died, her husband Ali buried her at night without informing
[24:20]Abu Bakr and he offered the funeral prayer by himself.
[24:23]When Fatama was alive, notice this, the people used to respect Ali
[24:30]much.
[24:30]But after her death, Ali noticed a change in the people's attitude
[24:34]towards him.
[24:36]So Ali sought reconciliation with Abu Bakr and gave him the bay.
[24:40]Ali had not given him the bay during these months.
[24:43]Now during these six months, my dear brothers and sisters, what was
[24:48]Im Ali Alisam doing?
[24:48]Imm Ali is with the Quran and the Quran's with Ali.
[24:52]Im Ali has definitely secluded himself from the people.
[24:54]Let's come over here and open this particular work.
[25:00]My dear brothers and sisters, when we open this work, one of
[25:03]the most important work on Quranic sciences in Islamic literature, the great
[25:08]books of Islamic civilization, Imadin Abdahmani, the perfect guide to the sciences
[25:16]of the Quran translated by professor Hammed Algar, Dr.
[25:22]Michael Shub and Mr.
[25:26]Abdim reviewed by professor man is Muhammadani center for Muslim contribution to
[25:32]civilization and association with Garnet publishing.
[25:33]All of you can see over here that when is this published
[25:37]first edition all of you can see 2011 Muhammad bin Muhammadani center
[25:45]for Muslim contribution to civilization.
[25:46]Let's see who the first was to compile the Quran.
[25:50]What is the Imam Ali compilation of the Quran?
[25:53]Where is this Musim Ali?
[25:53]Come with me over here.
[25:56]We see here that the story is quite the classic story that
[25:59]begins.
[26:00]Okay.
[26:00]So you begin here on this chapter, chapter 18 on the Quran's
[26:05]collection and arrangement concerning the collection of the Quran three times.
[26:10]Three opinions in his hakim said that the Quran was collected three
[26:14]times.
[26:15]Okay, everybody can see the first was in the prophet's presence.
[26:19]This is related in a sound tradition reported in both the sahas
[26:23]zab said we were in the presence of the prophet arranging the
[26:27]fragments upon which parts of the Quran were written.
[26:31]Okay, here's second in the presence of Abu Bakr in his relates
[26:35]that I've already narrated that whole hadith.
[26:39]Then we have over here my dear brothers and sisters, come with
[26:42]me over here.
[26:45]Read what it says over here.
[26:49]Okay.
[26:48]On the other hand, read with me here.
[26:53]On the other hand, I daw also reported by way of Ibirin
[26:56]who claimed that Ali said, "When the emissary of God died, I
[27:04]swore that I would not get dressed except for the Friday prayers
[27:08]until I collected the Quran." Then he collected it.
[27:16]Now Hajar jumps in.
[27:17]Ibn Hajar said that this is a weak tradition with a non-ontinuous
[27:23]isnad.
[27:22]Yes, it's true.
[27:23]It is true intention because it implies the collect of the Quran
[27:26]means memorizing it.
[27:28]Now what Abd reported above is the more trustworthy and authoritative.
[27:31]You come here look what it says.
[27:34]I the author say in this dur reported through a different isnad
[27:40]bishb mus reported on the authority of khalif on the authority of
[27:45]on the authority of Muhammad ibin on the authority of a who
[27:50]said after the swearing of allegiance to Abu Bakr Ali Ib sat
[27:53]in his home it was said to Abu Bak said that Ali
[28:00]dislike the swearing of allegiance to you.
[28:01]So he sent for Ali and asked him if he did not
[28:08]like to swear allegiance to him.
[28:09]Ali vehemently denied this.
[28:12]Abu Bakr then asked what may have kept him away from him.
[28:16]Ali answered that the people had been making unwarranted additions to Allah's
[28:22]book.
[28:23]And thus Ali had sworn not to dress to go out except
[28:28]for the Friday prayers until he had collected the entire Quran.
[28:33]Abu Bakr then commended Ali's act.
[28:36]Muhammad Ibin then said that I told Akama that the that they
[28:42]arranged the Quran chronologically.
[28:44]Akram then replied that if all mankind and all the jin would
[28:50]cooperate in such an effort to correctly arrange the Quran chronologically, they
[28:55]would never be able to achieve it as has been arranged.
[29:00]In his al- Mahb A reported another tradition with a different isnad
[29:04]yet traced back to the authority of Iban saying that he had
[29:06]written in his codeex the abregating and the abregated verses and that
[29:13]Iban had said that he had searched for such a codeex as
[29:16]far as Medina but did not succeed in finding it.
[29:23]The first to have compiled the Quran and the man with the
[29:27]most knowledge of the Quran who nobody comes near when it comes
[29:29]to his of the Quran is immorti others have all come together
[29:40]to say that Imam Ali Alisam in that six months after Fatham
[29:43]had died Im Ali kept away from everybody and the evidence is
[29:50]there to compile the Quran.
[29:52]This is before Yama.
[29:52]This is before Hapsa and her bed and what's under it.
[29:57]This is before Im Ali.
[30:00]Come with me over here.
[30:04]My dear brothers and sisters, let's see this famous work which many
[30:07]of you would have come across.
[30:08]Okay.
[30:08]All of you have seen this work.
[30:14]Can you see over here?
[30:17]It's in the noble of Quran.
[30:21]By who?
[30:20]Alakim Alaskani.
[30:21]All of you come over here.
[30:23]My dear brothers and sisters, you can see author Alhakim Alaskani translated
[30:29]Mortazaki.
[30:30]Editor TR Jaffar first published 2022.
[30:34]Published by the center for cultural and ethical studies in association with
[30:39]who?
[30:40]With Rasala International Institute.
[30:41]I just want to come to him so that we can see
[30:45]why is it that he ended up writing this book.
[30:48]This is interesting.
[30:48]Why was this book written by the author?
[30:51]In the name of Allah the compassionate and merciful.
[30:53]Praise be to Allah who honors whomever he wills of his saints
[30:58]with all kinds of honors and blessings blesses them by elevating their
[31:01]status and raising their rank and the best salawat and blessings be
[31:04]upon his chosen province family.
[31:09]The great sheh Ali Hamza Ali may Allah prolong his life informed
[31:12]me that the son of the author Ali al-Hani narrated that Im
[31:19]Huskani said one of those who have taken the role of leadership
[31:22]over the people as amongst the companions of Ibaram is holding sessions
[31:25]these days and many groups have gathered around him.
[31:28]He blames the chief of the Halawites and misleads them in disparaging
[31:31]the chief's ancestries.
[31:32]He has exaggerated to the extent that he has claimed that none
[31:36]of the commentators of the Quran have said that Insan or any
[31:39]of the other part of the Quran has been revealed about Ali
[31:41]and his family.
[31:44]I reprimanded his rudeness and his lies.
[31:47]He realizes that people are saying Imam Ali and his family.
[31:50]There are no verses about them.
[31:52]There were different periods where people because of their hat begun to
[31:55]hide the merits of B.
[31:58]So what does he do?
[31:58]He writes this particular work.
[32:02]Now come with me over here.
[32:04]Read this section.
[32:04]Chapter number three.
[32:07]My dear brothers and sisters, chapter 3, Ali the first to compile
[32:11]the Quran.
[32:12]Come with me.
[32:12]It's over here.
[32:14]It is narrated that Ibire said when the pledge of allegiance was
[32:17]given to Abu Bakr, Ali stayed in his house.
[32:19]So a man came to Abuakar and said Ali has an aversion
[32:22]to you.
[32:23]So he called for Ali and asked do you have an aversion
[32:25]to me?
[32:26]Ali said, "I swear by God that I have no aversion to
[32:29]you except that the prophet of God passed away while the Quran
[32:32]had not yet been compiled.
[32:33]I did not want anything to be added to it.
[32:38]So I swore that I would not leave my house except for
[32:41]prayer until I had compiled it." Abu Bakr said, "What a good
[32:49]thought." Now come with me over here when we see a sid
[32:50]narrated from Abdul another narration.
[32:52]So this was narration over here number 22.
[32:55]Come to number 23 from Abd that when observed the bad situation
[33:01]of the people upon the demise of the messenger of Allah sallallahu
[33:04]alaihi he swore that he would not put a cloak on his
[33:12]back until he had compiled the Quran.
[33:15]So he stayed in his house until he compiled the Quran and
[33:19]that was the first codeex in which the Quran was compiled.
[33:24]He compiled it from memory and it was kept with the progeny
[33:29]of Jaffar.
[33:29]Come to the next one.
[33:31]It is narrated as you could see my dear brothers and sisters
[33:34]that said when they pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr Ali remained in
[33:39]his house.
[33:40]So when Omar met him he said do you refuse to uh
[33:44]pledge allegiance or pay allegiance to Abu Bakr?
[33:47]Ali replied, "When the prophet passed away, I took an oath that
[33:50]I will not wear a cloak except for the obligatory prayers until
[33:59]I compiled the Quran.
[34:00]For indeed I feared that the Quran would be distorted." Come to
[34:07]the next narration.
[34:08]It is narrated that Yaman said when the prophet passed away, Ali
[34:14]swore or took an oath that he would not place his cloak
[34:18]on his back until he had compiled the Quran between two tablets.
[34:25]So he did not wear his cloak until he had compiled the
[34:30]Quran.
[34:30]Come now.
[34:32]It is narrated that Muhammadbar said, "I have been informed that Abu
[34:38]Bakr Ali and said, "Are you averse to my rule?" He said,
[34:43]"No, but I have taken an oath not to wear my cloak
[34:45]except for prayer until I've compiled the Quran." He then said, "So,
[34:50]he wrote the Quran according to its revelation.
[34:51]Had I obtained that book, I would have found a lot of
[34:56]knowledge therein." Muhammad bin Sarin said I as a about it but
[34:59]he was not aware of it come again.
[35:01]It is narrated that Muhammad bin Sarin said when the prophet passed
[35:06]away Ali stayed in his house and did not come out.
[35:07]So someone said to Abu Bakr Ali does not leave his house
[35:11]it's as if though he is averse to your caliphate.
[35:12]So Abu Bakr sent him and asked are you averse to my
[35:15]rule?
[35:16]Ali said I'm not averse to your rule but I see the
[35:18]possibility of additions creeping into the Quran.
[35:21]So I swore that I would not wear a cloak except for
[35:27]the Friday prayers until I have compiled it.
[35:29]Iban said I have been informed that he wrote the abrogated verses
[35:33]and then the abregating ones.
[35:35]Notice my dear brothers and sisters others they say that Im Ali
[35:44]was the first to comply the Quran.
[35:47]Now we have Imam Ali, we have we have Z and we
[35:52]have Abdahbin Mas.
[35:51]And we know very well that these were scribes who are writing
[35:56]the revelation.
[35:56]And therefore the government has an opportunity now to take the Quran
[36:01]of Im Ali that Quran of Im Ali the words inside it
[36:05]and the verses are exactly the same as the Quran we have
[36:11]today.
[36:12]The difference being the chronological order was done.
[36:13]which chronological order as a reference or a complement to the Quran.
[36:19]You have the tap of the verses.
[36:24]You have the names of who the verses are about.
[36:26]You have when the verses were revealed, what date they were revealed,
[36:32]about whom they were revealed, which verse abregated another.
[36:34]Because none knew the Quran like Imm Ali Alisam.
[36:38]Imam made sure that the Quran was available for the government that
[36:45]as soon as died we didn't need to worry about because he
[36:49]is the himself.
[36:51]Come to the next chapter in this book chapter 4 where he
[36:57]discusses what Ali was unmatched in his knowledge of the Quran and
[37:01]its meaning as well as when it was revealed and its contents
[37:04]and bin Malik said the prophet said after me Ali will teach
[37:08]the people about the interpretation of the Quran what they do not
[37:11]know or he said he will inform them.
[37:13]This has been narrated by a group from Abdul Karim.
[37:16]Ib Omar said Ali is the most knowledgeable person regarding what God
[37:21]has revealed to Muhammad sallallahu alaihi come with me over here it's
[37:25]the said Ali said ask me oh people of kufura before you
[37:30]can no longer ask me ask me before you lose me I
[37:32]swear by the one in whose hand is my soul no verse
[37:35]has been revealed but that I know more about where and regarding
[37:38]whom it was revealed whether in a desert or during a journey
[37:43]or at a particular location come with me here it's The rabb
[37:45]said, "I was present while Ali was delivering a sermon which he
[37:49]said, "Ask me, for by God you will not ask me about
[37:51]anything that will happen until the day of judgment, but that I
[37:54]shall inform you about it and ask me about the book of
[37:56]God, for I swear by God that there is no verse in
[37:58]it, but that I know where it was sent down at night
[38:02]or during the day in the plains or in the mountains." It
[38:04]is narrated by Abu Abdman.
[38:07]I have not seen anyone better than Ali reciting the Quran.
[38:09]And he used to say ask me for by God you will
[38:12]not ask me any from the book of God but that I
[38:14]will tell you whether it was revealed at night or during the
[38:16]day in the plains or in a mountain.
[38:17]And his son Al Hussein the martr also narrated that his father
[38:21]said there is no verse in the Quran but that I recited
[38:22]it in front of the messenger of Allah and he taught me
[38:26]its meaning.
[38:26]Al Hussein narrates that his father said, "During the time of the
[38:30]messenger of Allah, I never slept at night until I had learned
[38:32]the revelation that Jira bought on the day about halal and haram
[38:35]deeds, recommended practices, obligations, commands, prohibitions, and about whom it was revealed."
[38:43]Zade bin Ali narrated from his father who narrated from his grandfather
[38:48]who narrated Ali said, "I never slept at night until I knew
[38:50]what Jira had brought about halal and haram, commands, prohibitions, recommended actions,
[38:54]obligations and about what and whom it was revealed.
[38:59]Aisha said Ali is the most knowledgeable person amongst the companions of
[39:04]Muhammad about what was revealed to Muhammad sallallahu alaihi.
[39:09]Therefore for us we say that there was a musk of Im
[39:14]Ali Alisam and all of these debates which put Muslims in difficulties
[39:19]about the Quran being revealed or being compiled three four decades after
[39:23]the holy prophet peace be upon his family.
[39:25]Here we are seeing that as soon as the prophet peace be
[39:27]upon him and his family died.
[39:30]Im Alibi and Shia literature compiled the Quran and explained everything around
[39:37]the ayat where you had and the all of it explained by
[39:44]Imam.
[39:48]Did they take the imam?
[39:53]No, they didn't.
[39:52]Why they didn't?
[39:56]If you don't believe in his authority anyway from what's going to
[40:00]make you take his musb says I'm looking everywhere for this where
[40:04]is it I looked around everywhere in Medina and the question arises
[40:10]that why didn't they take the musf of im Ali you've got
[40:12]it there take it and the opinion was that it's presented come
[40:17]with me over here let's see what our books say about its
[40:20]presentation come with me over here of course the argumentation the famous
[40:24]work of our great scholar Abu Mansh Ali bin Abi translated by
[40:33]say Hussein.
[40:33]Come with me over here.
[40:36]All of you can see that we have publisher Ansarian publications first
[40:42]edition 2017 press.
[40:44]All of you can see Ansaran publications here.
[40:47]If we look over here there is this interesting discussion okay that
[40:53]takes place.
[40:55]My dear brothers and sisters and it highlights to you the difficulty
[40:59]faced by Imam Amir al-Misam.
[41:01]This is on the section if you look page 173 at the
[41:05]top over here.
[41:08]Let's zoom in.
[41:06]Tal says to im Ali you comforted me.
[41:13]I had never understood that speech by the messenger of Allah s
[41:17]until you interpreted it for me.
[41:21]Oh Ab Hassan, may Allah give you a part of the heaven
[41:23]from all the people of Muhammad.
[41:25]Oh Ab Hassan, there is one more question I want to ask
[41:30]you.
[41:31]To the best of my recollection, you took out a sealed material
[41:40]and stated, "Oh people, I was busy washing, enshrouding, and burying the
[41:44]prophet's body and then involved in compiling the Quran." This is Allah's
[41:49]book with me in its entirety and without even a single letter
[41:56]dropped.
[41:55]However, I did not see any written and compiled by you.
[42:00]And remember that Omar asked you for that and you gave a
[42:03]negative response.
[42:05]After that, Omar passed a law on the inscription of verses to
[42:09]which two individuals bore testimony.
[42:10]And if just one person bore witness to a verse, he postponed
[42:16]writing it and did not inscribe it.
[42:17]In the meantime, Omar said while I was listening that on the
[42:20]day of Yama, you slew a group of people who recite the
[42:22]Quran in such a way which no one else could.
[42:24]And then stood up and left the meeting where they were inscribed
[42:29]in the Quran.
[42:28]And after a sheep came in that place and grazed the book
[42:32]which they had been inscribing and it vanished.
[42:35]And I myself heard that Omar's companions were compiling their inscriptions saying
[42:39]the chapter of is equivalent to the chapter of cao the bakar
[42:42]the chapter light has 160 verses and chapter stone contains 190 verses.
[42:45]What was the matter?
[42:47]May Allah bless you.
[42:47]What prevented you from offering the Quran you had compiled to the
[42:50]people.
[42:51]Whereas when took the Quran compiled by Omar, he bound it and
[42:54]propelled people to recite in a single fashion and tore the one
[43:01]compiled by andb and burnt it.
[43:01]Im Ali went on to say any verse which Allah the Almighty
[43:06]revealed to Muhammad sallallahu alaihi is with me in my own handwriting
[43:11]as the prophet dictated for me.
[43:11]All lawful and unlawful things, fixed penalties, sentences, anything that anything else
[43:15]that people need till the day of resurrection are with me in
[43:20]my own handwriting as the prophet dictated for me even compensation for
[43:25]scratching the face.
[43:25]Tal has said are all things from small to great or from
[43:30]specific to general of whatever has that has taken place or will
[43:32]take place till the day of resurrection with you set down writing.
[43:34]He said yes.
[43:36]And apart from that, while ailing the prophet opened 1,000 gates of
[43:39]knowledge to me, each of which is the key to another thousand
[43:43]gates of knowledge.
[43:43]If the um had obeyed and followed me after his demise, all
[43:48]of them would have enjoyed them fully.
[43:49]How have you forgotten?
[43:51]And he begins to ask him about what took place of the
[43:52]holy prophet peace be upon him and his family at that time.
[43:59]Consequently, Tal said, "I saw you did not answer my question relating
[44:04]to the Quran.
[44:04]Are you not going to give a reply for the people?" He
[44:07]asked, "I refrain from answering it intentionally.
[44:10]Tell me whether the Quran that Omar and had collected was set
[44:12]down in writing in its entirety or not." He replied, "Of course,
[44:15]it was in its entirety." Imam Ali stated, "If you act in
[44:19]accordance with that, it will deliver you from the fire and you
[44:20]will enter the heaven since our proof and the reason for our
[44:22]rightfulness as well as the necessity of obedience to us are all
[44:27]evident in it." Tal said if that's if that is the Quran
[44:29]it is adequate for me.
[44:31]Then he went on to say now let me know about that
[44:34]which is in your hand from the Quran and it commentary to
[44:35]the knowledge of the lawful and unlawful in it and to the
[44:39]one to whom you will hand it over and who will it
[44:40]own it after you.
[44:43]He observed the one to whom I will hand over the Quran
[44:44]is my son Hassan who is my successor and superior to all
[44:50]the people as I am ordered by the prophet.
[44:52]Then he will submit it to my other son Hussein.
[44:54]After that it will be passed to Hussein's descendants from one to
[44:59]the other till the last of them will meet the prophet over
[45:01]the pond.
[45:02]They are with the Quran and it is with them and none
[45:03]of them separate from the other.
[45:06]Know that afterman Muawi and his son will occupy the position of
[45:09]caliphate and after them seven descendants of will be the leaders of
[45:13]misguidance.
[45:17]Number 57 Abu Dal Gafari is quoted as saying Abu Dal Gafari
[45:22]says after the demise of the message of Allah Ali collected the
[45:24]Quran and took it to the Muajar and offering it to them
[45:28]on the prophet's recommendation when Abu Bakr opened it he found the
[45:33]shameful acts by the people mentioned in the first page having heard
[45:36]them Omar sprang up and said oh Ali take it with you
[45:40]since we have no need for it then he took it with
[45:41]him and returned then he summoned Zade who was one of those
[45:45]who recite the Quran and told him Ali bought us a copy
[45:46]of the Quran in which the shameful acts of the nation were
[45:50]written.
[45:50]We intend to compile a copy of the Quran which is devoid
[45:52]of any mention of the shameful acts in dishon accepted.
[46:01]Do you see all clear?
[46:03]Im Ali 6 months compiles the Quran everything's there for the Muslims.
[46:08]Now someone says where is it?
[46:10]It's with the Imam of our time.
[46:12]Did the Muslims take it?
[46:14]No.
[46:14]Imam makes it clear.
[46:14]book the Quran that you have with you that's the Quran that
[46:19]the collective Muslim community has come together and has ensured that it
[46:23]is pristine there is no alterations to it whatsoever what's in there
[46:26]is sufficient for guidance and for you to understand our obedience because
[46:30]people say if you don't respect man how can you take his
[46:35]Quran's not the one who bought the Quran togetherman standardized into one
[46:39]reading for everybody now that it had gone to Kufa and Egypt
[46:43]and God knows where Originally it was Muhammad and Al Muhammad who
[46:46]looked after this Quran and the protection of it and had the
[46:52]most knowledge of it and some people lost verses eaten by animals
[46:54]and others we don't know what happened to them here.
[46:56]Imm looked at the collective group of Muslims coming together checking whatever
[47:01]has come with reliable chains checking it against previous manuscripts checking it
[47:06]with a group who understood what was happening and he felt that
[47:11]this is sufficient for what is there for the Muslims that's sufficient
[47:14]for us just because I take from somebody who may have done
[47:17]a good thing in bringing one thing together doesn't mean that I
[47:19]discount the other oppression that he has done towards the family of
[47:24]the prophet or towards their companions but for me I Alisam is
[47:27]the first of the compilers of the Quran and the one who
[47:30]had the most knowledge of the Quran and sufficient for us to
[47:34]be associated with him.
[47:34]Inshallah we'll see you tomorrow as we continue our discussions.
[47:40]But before we go, one final clip.
[47:42]Please play this clip so that we see this discussion from one
[47:46]of the scholars about Imam Ali and the compilation of the Holy
[47:56]Quran.
[47:53]Please play the clip.
[48:00]forchech.
[48:25]for Quran.
[48:55]for Um, for for you.
[50:30]May Allah bless you all and we'll continue with our discussion inshallah
[50:34]tomorrow night.
[50:35]Thank you all so much for listening.
[50:45]Hey, away.
[51:18]Salamore.
[51:47]That's been Keep follow I'll go ahead.
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