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22. The Muslim Lantern: Sunni-Shia Unity | Sayed Ammar Nakshawani | Ramadan 2026
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[2:56]In the name of God, the most beneficent and the most merciful.
[3:00]All praise is due to the Lord, master of all the worlds.
[3:02]And peace and blessings be on all his prophets and especially the
[3:07]final prophet, the holy prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi.
[3:10]My respected brothers and sisters, this month, the holy month of Ramadan
[3:16]has seen many discussions concerning Shia Sunni unity.
[3:20]In light of what's been happening politically around the world, there are
[3:24]many people who are now discussing Shiaism more than ever before.
[3:27]And you find that at different levels these discussions are occurring.
[3:30]In the past these may have been discussions for scholars only and
[3:35]at times you wonder whether it should stay with scholars only.
[3:38]But sometimes you find that also this has now been a discussion
[3:41]on social media.
[3:43]Last week we had looked at Sneo social media influencer who had
[3:47]discussed Shiaism and the beliefs in Shia and especially the beliefs in
[3:53]Imm.
[3:52]And I was shown a video a few nights ago where Sneo
[3:55]has a discussion with another social media influencer called the Muslim Lantern.
[4:01]This social media influencer has a lengthy discussion with Sneo concerning Shia
[4:08]Sunni relations, Shia Sunni thought, Shia Sunni identity.
[4:11]And the reality is that these discussions are in many cases quite
[4:14]healthy.
[4:15]They're quite civil.
[4:17]You find for example that there is an exchange of opinion.
[4:19]But at the same time, the person who's speaking on this topic
[4:25]is not necessarily an expert in Shiaism.
[4:26]And he may come from a background where what he's been taught
[4:31]about Shiaism is all that he knows.
[4:33]That in reality is the same for many Shia in the world.
[4:36]Most inherit their faiths without really necessarily knowing about each other's belief
[4:41]systems.
[4:41]And that's why when we come to discuss unity, many times people
[4:45]believe that you can achieve unity if you stay away from discussing
[4:52]the sensitive aspects of Shiaism and Sunniism.
[4:53]I believe it's the opposite.
[4:55]The more a person opens up what are the differences, the more
[5:00]one can appreciate that different schools in Islam have different readings.
[5:04]Even theologically within the Sunni school, you'll find that there are different
[5:09]readings of Islamic history and Islamic theology and on verses of the
[5:12]Quran and Islamic law.
[5:13]And the same may exist even within the Shia school.
[5:16]So when I saw this discussion between Sneo and the Muslim lantern,
[5:20]I felt that I may participate as well in this discussion because
[5:25]many of our youth in reality follow these social media influences.
[5:27]If we discuss such things from the meimbar, you may find that
[5:30]someone might find it too technical or too difficult to understand.
[5:33]But the moment the social media influencers get together, you find that
[5:37]the discussions are a lot more palatable for the people concerned.
[5:42]So I've picked a few clips tonight which I thought we could
[5:44]reply back to in relation to the questions that have been raised.
[5:48]And quite ironically, every issue that Sneo raises with the Muslim lantern
[5:52]are issues very much related to what we've been discussing on Imm
[5:55]Hussein TV when we've discussed God to shik the wives of the
[6:02]prophet, the companions of the prophet, whether you should call yourself Shia,
[6:05]whether you should call yourself Sunni.
[6:07]All of these issues ironically are what Sneo and the Muslim lantern
[6:11]discuss.
[6:12]And it highlights to you that as much as a person wants
[6:14]to shy away from these issues, they remain the focal point of
[6:17]all discussions.
[6:18]And I don't mind if someone doesn't accept my narrative.
[6:22]That's not a problem.
[6:24]Allah guides who he wants to guide.
[6:25]But what I would like is that a person at least appreciates
[6:28]what the Shia narrative is.
[6:31]Here the Muslim lantern is very much giving from a Sunni perspective
[6:35]what he considers the Shia narrative.
[6:37]And in the clips that I'm trying to point out today, I
[6:40]just want to reply by saying that this is what the original
[6:45]opinion is of the Shia or if he's posited an opinion that
[6:48]we all already have within our theology, then I'd like to at
[6:53]least have the chance to explain that opinion so that there aren't
[6:57]these misconceptions or confusions on the issue.
[7:00]So, let's get going.
[7:00]Different type of episode, but something quite unique at the same time.
[7:04]I'd like to begin with the first clip where do raises what
[7:09]many in the Muslim world raise concerning what should we call ourselves
[7:13]as believers.
[7:15]Please play clip number one.
[7:17]>> Good example.
[7:18]I want to create alliances and I see one um Sunni Shia.
[7:21]I had two conversations with Shia.
[7:23]I'm trying to learn more about Shiaism.
[7:25]Obviously, you know, I'm Muslim and it says that we're supposed to
[7:27]call ourselves Muslims.
[7:28]This is we're not supposed to call ourselves Sunni.
[7:29]As a school of thought, we're supposed to call ourselves Muslim that
[7:33]I see as all Muslim.
[7:33]One of the most interesting points that Sneo has raised from the
[7:38]outset is that why is it that people are calling themselves Shia
[7:41]or Sunni?
[7:42]Why don't we all call ourselves Muslim?
[7:44]And I think we've all been through that path at one stage
[7:46]or another in our lives.
[7:49]You'll always have that person in your family who's like I don't
[7:51]like being called Shia or Sunni.
[7:52]I'm Muslim.
[7:53]Don't bring me these names.
[7:54]In one way, all of us have to be called Muslim.
[7:58]That's the name Ibraim.Isam gave us and that's the name that we
[8:01]continue to inherit.
[8:02]And in reality there are subjects and discussions and context where we
[8:08]should just say that we are Muslim.
[8:08]But then on the other hand you'll have a group who will
[8:10]say why do you call yourself Sunni or Shia?
[8:13]Number one these were not there in the Quran and number two
[8:17]these were not there in the time of the holy prophet peace
[8:19]be upon him his family.
[8:20]But when we look even within Sunni literature and I'm not going
[8:24]to say that Sunni literature is my barometable truth but I just
[8:26]want to see the traces of what we believe within Sunni literature
[8:29]as is our aim virtually in every episode.
[8:31]You'll see that in Sunni literature there is this recognition about the
[8:36]name Shia being given by the holy prophet peace be upon him
[8:42]his family to a group that are associated with Imam Ali Alisam.
[8:47]Someone says where if you look for example over here if you
[8:49]join me over here we'll see that when you come to this
[8:54]work over here in the noble Quran all of you can see
[8:59]very clearly my dear brothers and sisters as you can see this
[9:06]is the famous work of alaskani translator Karimi if you come with
[9:12]us over here author hakani translator mortar edited by Jaffar All of
[9:17]you can see first published which year in the year 2022.
[9:20]I want to go to chapter 98 of the Quran in this
[9:24]particular work.
[9:25]If we go to chapter 98, all of you have memorized I'm
[9:29]sure at home.
[9:30]When you go to surah bay, you'll come across an ayah which
[9:34]many of us have memorized since childhood around the Muslim world.
[9:37]But it's very interesting what's mentioned over here.
[9:41]So the verse is verse seven of Indeed, those who have faith
[9:50]and do righteous good deeds, it is they who are the best
[9:54]creatures.
[9:55]When he discusses this, he narrates this tradition.
[10:00]Yazid the son of Shahel Ansari the scribe of Ali said I
[10:03]heard Ali say the prophet of God spoke to me while reclining
[10:08]on my chest and said oh Ali have you not heard the
[10:10]verse wherein God says indeed those who have faith and do righteous
[10:14]deeds it is they who are the best of creatures they are
[10:17]you and your look at the Arabic over here whereas tells Ali
[10:25]the following whom who enter they are you and your now that
[10:36]means that the word is being used for the Shia in the
[10:40]time of the holy prophet peace be upon him his family it
[10:42]is not being used after the holy prophet because you know many
[10:45]Muslims will say this and all things that happen after the prophet
[10:51]we are all Muslim here in this work of Hazakhan he was
[10:54]seen in many cases as a Sunni scholar He has collected this
[10:59]book.
[11:00]Why?
[11:01]He collected this book with the hadiths in relation to the B
[11:03]and the verses that were revealed about them because people were trying
[11:06]to hide the merits of Im Ali.
[11:07]So he said, "Hold on a minute.
[11:11]Even as a Sunni, I rever Ali.
[11:12]Why is there a campaign to hide his merits?" So you see
[11:14]in the next time you read in when you come across he
[11:27]said you and your are the best of creatures.
[11:30]So therefore when someone is saying to me why did we call
[11:34]ourselves shia why didn't we just call ourselves Muslim and as I
[11:36]said there's always one in the family who's like I don't call
[11:40]myself any of this.
[11:39]No no no here we have one piece of evidence.
[11:42]Then we have this work over here which many of you would
[11:44]have read of course of immed.
[11:49]This over here is of course by Abdil joie Im Ahmed bin
[11:55]H of course his famous work is the mused and but he
[11:58]also has this workah the virtues of the sahab of the holy
[12:01]prophet peace be upon him and his family.
[12:03]If you come to this work over here you'll see that ahmed
[12:08]bamb also has this discussion.
[12:09]Come with me over here Sahabah page 124 hadith 1,115.
[12:15]Here he says very clearly that the holy prophet sallallahu alaihi wasall
[12:21]said oh Ali glad tidings for you and your and your are
[12:31]in Jenna.
[12:32]The holy prophet is saying that you and your previous one are
[12:38]the greatest are the best creatures.
[12:39]Here he says he mentioned specifically.
[12:46]So I just say that when Sneo says that I prefer not
[12:50]to be called or we're all Muslim.
[12:53]I agree we are all Muslim.
[12:54]But I could even see the traces within Sunni literature.
[12:58]And someone might point out to me by the way that at
[12:59]the bottom here it says if you go back says that this
[13:03]hadith is so someone might turn around and say listen we don't
[13:05]take this hadith anyway I don't mind the reality is that in
[13:10]your literature the remnants of an of are mentioned mentions in the
[13:16]here we have the example likewise we have so therefore in relation
[13:21]to that first clip when you say that why do they call
[13:23]themselves why do you call yourself we say becauseoolah already mentioned the
[13:27]word before Islam was completed.
[13:31]And anything that's mentioned before Islam is completed becomes part of the
[13:35]sunnah of the holy prophet.
[13:36]Now let's go to the second area.
[13:37]Please play the next clip.
[13:42]So scholars who know the truth, these people, scholars would call them
[13:46]or say about these specific people, they're not Muslims because they know
[13:49]the truth and they still call upon other than Allah.
[13:50]They still tell the people to do the wrong things and they
[13:53]misguide the lay people.
[13:53]So there's a difference between the lay people and the scholars.
[13:56]This second area is someone that or something that I really don't
[14:03]appreciate here.
[14:02]The Muslim lantern has said that you know what there is a
[14:07]difference between the Shia scholars and the Shia Al people.
[14:09]This is always given when people ask the question to Sunni scholars
[14:13]are the Shia Muslims or are they kafars?
[14:17]You'll always hear the reply is their lay people cannot be called
[14:21]disbelievers as if like their lay people are a bunch of stupid
[14:26]fools and they don't understand anything and they've just inherited their religion.
[14:29]So their lay people are not to be called disbelievers but their
[14:35]scholars because they have all this knowledge there is a possibility that
[14:38]you could still call them disbelievers.
[14:40]Now, this surprises me because the Muslim lantern earlier was discussing with
[14:44]Nikico the idea that we shouldn't be calling the Shia disbelievers and
[14:48]so on and so forth.
[14:51]As much as parts of Sunni theology have tried their hardest and
[14:55]I'll never ever discount the fact that Alzhar for a certain period
[14:58]tried to say that the Shia the fifth school in the Jaffari
[15:01]school and Sheh Mahmud Shel and others and there were other great
[15:05]Ezarites who had constant communication with the houses of the Shia but
[15:09]there is always a strand from the time of the imams all
[15:12]the way until today that always gives this hint that you know
[15:17]what the Shia they are Muslims But the raf are a cursed
[15:20]bunch.
[15:20]Now you know very well that these are synonymous with each other
[15:23]the name and so you'll find for example if I pick a
[15:30]work like sunnah sunnah of um of Ahmed bin hal's son Abdah
[15:33]the son of ahmed bin hal it's a book which is over
[15:36]a thousand years old.
[15:37]I'm not bringing some book that was written like 26 years ago
[15:40]and in some bookshop in in Birmingham.
[15:42]This is a book that's over a thousand years old.
[15:44]this sunnah.
[15:46]If you come over here, my dear brothers and sisters, you'll see
[15:49]over here in sunnah there is always this trace of the fact
[15:54]that as much as people publicly want to say good, there's always
[15:58]this trace of but deep down there and the refuse Islam.
[16:04]If you look at written by Abdman Abdahb Ahmed bin H.
[16:09]Okay, all of you can see over here translated by Abu Hajar
[16:14]al again you could see that this is the year 2022 the
[16:16]date of this particular publication if you come over here to hadith
[16:23]number 1,269 you'll see it very clearly mentioned that even a thousand
[16:30]years ago the Shia are seen as people who are within Islam
[16:33]but they're going to refuse Islam.
[16:36]So if you see this tradition over here, there's always in this
[16:40]chapter this idea that Im Ali predicted there'd be a group called
[16:42]the and that they'd reject Islam.
[16:44]If you come over here, you'll see this hadith number 1269 that
[16:50]said that the messenger of Allah said in my ummah in the
[16:53]last times a people will emerge who are called they will refuse
[16:59]Islam.
[16:59]Now one thing I want to make clear is that firstly our
[17:01]lay people when you say the lay people are all right their
[17:05]scholars are disbelievers.
[17:05]The scholars all believe inah and they believe in Muhammad sallahu alaihi
[17:09]and the scholars all believe in and they believe in the book
[17:12]and they believe in the angels and they believe in and the
[17:15]last time I checked if you utter the shahada you're still a
[17:18]Muslim I might not be on the standard of m but still
[17:22]within Islam but what you'll find at the same time is this
[17:25]always this thing alani I remember has this discussion alani is asked
[17:30]about Iranian scholarship and is asked about the leadership in Iran we're
[17:33]going back you know way over 25 years and he's asked about
[17:35]the Shia and he's like listen they're lay men you can't call
[17:38]them disbelievers because they don't really know anything but they're scholars if
[17:42]they know everything that happened with the prophet and with the wives
[17:45]and with their companions then these people can be called disbelievers and
[17:48]that's why when you have texts like this and I haven't even
[17:53]gone to of in his reply to ib is very blatant in
[17:59]his discussion of the butb wasn't the first to start it was
[18:02]all started way before iby with this idea that you'll see one
[18:06]day a group called they are out of the fold of Islam.
[18:08]So even when someone comes and says they're scholars are and reality
[18:13]is if is lay according to this they will come at the
[18:17]end and they will refuse Islam.
[18:17]Let's play the next clip please.
[18:22]The second thing this idea I said we we got to have
[18:25]something we unite on.
[18:27]Now if the people come and say to me I believe because
[18:28]a lot of people don't understand there's a lot when you talk
[18:30]about religious beliefs now not the they don't understand what's going on
[18:34]a lot of them are nice people I I know them personally
[18:35]I seen them they don't care there's many people like that but
[18:39]if you go to the scholarly level and you go to what
[18:41]the books say they would say that all of the companions of
[18:44]the prophet have committed disbelief after his death all of the wives
[18:47]of the of the prophets are disbelievers except three and in another
[18:50]narration five this is what their books say their books liked all
[18:55]of these books you read books The Muslim lantern is right.
[19:00]In all honesty, if you look in Shia hadith literature, the young
[19:04]man is not wrong.
[19:06]Because when he says that within Shia hadith literature, there are hadiths
[19:10]that say that after the prophet all the Sahab are apostated except
[19:13]how many except three or sometimes you might read except five.
[19:17]Can we deny this is in our hadith literature?
[19:20]No, we can't.
[19:22]But there's a problem.
[19:22]And what's the problem?
[19:25]If we believe that all of them became morted or apostated meaning
[19:28]that they left Islam, then why do we rever people like Bal
[19:32]and Jabbdsari and Alsari or for example Abdahbad Abu?
[19:41]Why why do we rever all of them?
[19:46]If we say that all of them apostated or apostasized except three
[19:50]that means this idea of morted the idea of being an apostate
[19:59]can have different meanings.
[19:58]One meaning in the school that some people assume is that we
[20:03]believe that all the sahaba left Islam except three.
[20:07]But that's impossible because I just quoted to you that jab we
[20:11]believe is in Jenna.
[20:11]Abdahbas we believe is in Jenna we believe is in Jenna we
[20:17]believe is in Jenna Abuad we believe is in Jenna and others
[20:23]and others and others.
[20:22]So therefore the morted here is not referring to leaving Islam but
[20:29]rather leaving the im of Ali at that period after the holy
[20:35]prophet peace be upon him his family and not holding on to
[20:38]the at that moment.
[20:40]I believe that even people like for example Jabar may have had
[20:45]a moment of doubt a moment of fear bil may have had
[20:47]amar may have had it could happen maybe salmanad were on a
[20:52]different league altogether without an inch of doubt whatsoever but there may
[20:56]have been others who had that moment where they doubted what's going
[21:00]on everyone's turned against us everyone's attacking us so when you say
[21:04]that how can we unite with a group who believe that everybody
[21:07]body left after the prophet or everyone deviated after the prophet.
[21:13]On the first level, we rever but we don't put them all
[21:19]on the same level.
[21:18]Even we have hadith that say Salman is on the 10th level
[21:23]and then Abu Dar is on the ninth, Mdad is on the
[21:24]eighth, Amar is on the seventh.
[21:28]Someone says, well, why isn't the same as Mikd?
[21:28]No, you cannot have every one of the Sahabah on the same
[21:34]level.
[21:35]their of the prophet or their of the differs from one sahabi
[21:39]to another.
[21:40]But the idea that Sahabah could turn their back on the prophet
[21:44]peace be upon him and his family in droves is not necessarily
[21:47]a Shia idea because the prophet himself gives the hint that one
[21:51]day I might reach the pool and I might see my companions
[21:55]being taken away from me.
[21:56]Someone says where if you come with me to the sunnah of
[22:00]Ib Maja join me over here.
[22:01]The sunnah of Ib Maja.
[22:03]All of you can see my dear and sisters.
[22:05]The sixth correct tradition of the prophetic sunnah translated by Muhammad Mahi
[22:08]Sharif English Arabic text volume 4 km printed in Lebanon in the
[22:18]year 2008.
[22:17]If all of you come with me if we go to about
[22:20]hadith number 4,000 probably 4,3 yeah must be about 4,38 probably around
[22:30]here.
[22:31]You'll see that over here in the Sah Muslim 436.
[22:34]Everyone come join me over here.
[22:38]Page 181.
[22:39]Okay.
[22:39]All of you can see over here.
[22:43]Hadith number 4,36.
[22:43]Look over here at hadith number 4306.
[22:47]It's narrated on the authority of Abu Hurra that he said the
[22:51]messenger of Allah went to the graveyard and greeted with peace the
[22:54]inhabitants of the grave saying peace be upon your the inhabitants or
[22:58]house of faithful believers.
[22:59]If Allah almighty wills, we are going to join you when we
[23:05]die.
[23:05]Then the messenger of Allah peace be upon him said with that
[23:07]we have seen our brothers.
[23:08]They said oh messenger of Allah are we not your brothers?
[23:13]People asked him we wish could see our said aren't we your
[23:16]brothers?
[23:17]He said you are my companions.
[23:20]Yep.
[23:20]You are my companions.
[23:23]As you can see over here what does it say?
[23:30]You are my companions and my brothers are those who will come
[23:35]after you and I will be your forerunner on the fountain.
[23:40]They said, "Oh messenger of Allah, how do you know such of
[23:42]your nation as they have not come yet and you've not seen
[23:46]them?" He said, "Tell me, if a man has white and bright
[23:47]horses amongst black and dark horses, would he not recognize them?" They
[23:52]said, "Yes." He said they will come on the day of judgment
[23:55]as white with the parts of their bodies bright on account of
[23:58]the traces of the ablution.
[24:01]He further said I will be your predecessor on the fountain.
[24:05]The prophet made it clear that I will be your predecessor on
[24:09]the fountain.
[24:13]He added, "Some men will be driven away from my fountain just
[24:18]as a lost camel is driven away and I will call them
[24:23]come here and it will be said they changed their faith after
[24:28]you." And they still turn on their heels.
[24:31]I then will say, "Let them be ruined." Let them be ruined.
[24:33]Look at the Arabic.
[24:46]What will he say?
[25:00]Now, if you're saying to me that these I believe that after
[25:04]the prophet died, people went completely opposite to his way.
[25:06]Here the prophet is warning his companions that when I come to
[25:13]the fountain I will see those men driven away and then I
[25:19]will say come here and then they will be said what they
[25:21]changed their faith after you and they still turn on their heels.
[25:27]I then will say let them be ruined let them be ruined.
[25:28]So this idea that all of those who are around us Allah
[25:32]sallallahu alaihi wasall will all meet him at the end because you
[25:34]always hear this the ultimate righteousness and decency of all the Sahabah
[25:38]then why is it that when we come to the fountain we're
[25:41]going to see some being taken one way and the prophet being
[25:43]taken another unless those people after the prophet did something which went
[25:48]against the path of s and we know that unfortunately the Sahabah
[25:52]had so many feuds and civil wars with one another that these
[25:59]civil wars resulted in them fighting each other and killing each other
[26:02]and attacking each other.
[26:04]No one can deny this.
[26:05]So therefore, when I see Sneo telling the Muslim lantern, these are
[26:07]the Sahaba, they must be respected and so on and so forth.
[26:11]And of course, this continues throughout that period of the first califf,
[26:15]the second califf, the third califf, Im Ali Khip, Muawi's caliphate where
[26:19]Sahaba fight each other and Sahaba kill each other.
[26:22]So a person says those don't respect the Sahabah.
[26:25]Then you explain to me when Sahabah raise swords against one another
[26:28]and they want to kill one another and they want to fight
[26:30]one another.
[26:31]Then how do you explain that?
[26:32]Now let's play the next clip inshallah where they discuss why is
[26:37]it the Shia don't respect the wives of the prophet.
[26:39]Please play the next clip.
[26:42]A lot of people are like they're told something which is not
[26:45]a reality and then they go and they believe oh yeah this
[26:47]is what the reality.
[26:48]If I go to the book is going to tell me the
[26:51]truth about what people believe in.
[26:51]So if we see we unite, okay, I'm happy to unite with
[26:55]a Muslim.
[26:54]But if someone comes to me and says to me that I
[26:57]I believe that the wife's the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam, which
[27:00]is insulting a prophet.
[27:00]I mean a man, if I come, if you're married and I
[27:04]start insulting your wife and I say your wife was a disbeliever,
[27:05]she betrayed the omen, she was this, she was that, they don't
[27:08]only say this.
[27:08]I'm not going to say what they truly say about her like
[27:13]she committed, you know, indecent acts.
[27:14]She was doing I look the the things that they say about
[27:16]her is like unexplainable.
[27:19]If someone does that about the wife the wife of the messenger
[27:22]of God that you believe is the final prophet and messenger of
[27:25]how can I unite with a person like this if he comes
[27:30]here the Muslim lantern mentions a very good point and the reality
[27:34]is that most of the Sunni world's major issue with the Shia
[27:36]is either the Sahab or the wives we have to admit this
[27:40]and we can't run away from it and people do want to
[27:41]run away from these discussions but I respect these two brothers because
[27:46]these two brothers are very open in their opinions and I have
[27:48]no problem by the way at the end of the day If
[27:52]your reading is that even if someone is the wife of the
[27:55]prophet, you cannot scrutinize, you cannot discuss her, you can never question
[27:59]her, then I can respect that framework, but I don't have to
[28:03]accept that framework.
[28:05]At the end of the day, my framework is the Quran.
[28:09]And in the Quran, I come to a conclusion just from one
[28:11]surah of the Quran.
[28:11]Although I can pick other surah, but I come to one surah
[28:15]from the Quran.
[28:16]And that surah is surahim surahim surah 66 of the Quran God
[28:22]tells us about how the wife of prophet Noah and the wife
[28:25]of prophet l are both burning in hell.
[28:27]If marrying a prophet is a criteria for entering heaven I'm giving
[28:30]the shia reading.
[28:31]Listen if you don't want to accept it completely up to you.
[28:33]But I'm very interested in why you don't mention the fact that
[28:39]a in surah 66 of the holy Quran, God pretty much lambasts
[28:42]the wife of Noah and the wife of L and doesn't hold
[28:49]back the prophet could have easily not said anything about the wives
[28:55]of previous prophets of God.
[28:55]But when I looked in the Quran, I found that in the
[28:57]Quran very clearly that the holy prophet peace be upon him and
[29:02]his family when he reveals these verses to the people, the people
[29:05]know the context of these verses.
[29:07]And what's the context of these verses and the trouble they caused
[29:12]the prophet with the secret six seven verses before this verse?
[29:18]Look at this verse.
[29:18]We are on surah 66.
[29:22]If you just go exactly seven verses before surah 66:10, surah 66:3,
[29:26]look over here.
[29:28]When the prophet confidant unto one of his wives a matter, but
[29:32]when she dulged it unto others, God told him, he made known
[29:37]a part of it and avoided a part.
[29:40]So when he informed her of it, she said, "Who informed you
[29:42]of this?" I think she completely forgot the memo that he receives
[29:46]emails from God like quite regularly.
[29:48]And so she said to him, "Who told you that I went
[29:51]and told my friend a secret?" Imagine you tell the prophet.
[29:53]Prophet tells you, "Listen, why'd you do something?" And you turn around
[29:57]to him and be like, "Who told you?" Like Jira coming with
[30:00]wings.
[30:00]You either believe in him or you don't because the man's been
[30:02]telling you secrets of creation for like God knows how many years.
[30:07]He's definitely going to know if a secret's taking place.
[30:08]If a man can tell you what's going to happen with Immi
[30:12]and and Dal, you think he's not going to tell you what's
[30:14]happening in his house three three three minutes away.
[30:18]Okay.
[30:19]The Quran went on to tell them in verse number four, now
[30:24]if you have to show utmost respect to the wives, Allah subhana
[30:28]wa tala is exposing the wives in the Quran by saying that
[30:31]both of you in the two of you have to do Toba.
[30:35]If you do Toba, your hearts are inclined to that which is
[30:40]good.
[30:41]Why would Allah subhana wa ta'ala expose so publicly?
[30:45]Imagine this is this in reality if you put the most trivial
[30:48]analogy this book really is the newspaper for Medina and Meccan society
[30:56]anything that happens the book gives you the news of what's taking
[30:58]place now you imagine you don't mind when it's talking about Jupiter
[31:01]and Pluto and embryo and big bang but the moment it says
[31:06]two ladies have exposed the secret of the prophet Muhammad and that
[31:09]God's telling them do Toba right now is the Shia the problem
[31:11]or is God the problem because if the Shia do this.
[31:16]You're saying how could the Shia expose the bad acts of the
[31:18]wives of the prophet when Allah loves them?
[31:21]Allahh is the one exposing them in this surah.
[31:24]Exposing them so much that in the next verse God says happily
[31:31]his lord if he divorces you will happily his lord if he
[31:36]divorces you will give him in your place wives better than you.
[31:40]If these are the greatest wives as you say why is God
[31:44]mentioning talaq when the worst halal in the eyes of Allah is
[31:47]talak and you know the prophet divorced hapsa but then he took
[31:53]her back after a month for one month they were divorced and
[31:55]I've already discussed this a few nights ago their divorce so therefore
[32:01]when the Muslim lantern is telling sne that how can I unite
[32:06]with people who don't respect the wife I have a second point
[32:08]to make about that if You have a problem with anyone who
[32:13]doesn't show respect to the wife.
[32:14]So what do you say about the army of Ali at Jal?
[32:16]Would you condemn all of them to hell for fighting and raising
[32:21]swords against the wife of the prophet?
[32:22]Who goes to heaven at Jal Ali's army or Aisha's army?
[32:30]Because Aisha's army is being fought by Sahaba.
[32:33]And you said that anyone who has disrespect for the wife of
[32:38]the prophet, I can never unite with them.
[32:40]So you can't unite with Ali and Amar bin and by the
[32:41]way the masters of the youth of paradise as well and then
[32:45]there's a problem now you see where my narrative is Muslim lantern
[32:49]I appreciate what you're saying and your points are very good but
[32:52]I you know I come from a different angle and a when
[32:54]we come from our angles remember these are theological discussions it's calledam
[32:58]for a reason there's a lot of calam there's a lot of
[33:02]speech there's a lot of discussions but you need to understand where
[33:06]we're coming from number three when you say the I don't respect
[33:09]the wives in this same sort In verse number 10, God says
[33:11]over here 66:10, God gives the example, the wife, the dis to
[33:21]those who disbelieve, the wife of no and the wife of Lord.
[33:24]No wife and Lord's wife are both burning in hell.
[33:25]The verse says, if you go back, it says both of them.
[33:28]And it was said unto them, enter both the fire along with
[33:31]those who enter it.
[33:33]If you're married to a prophet of God, and that's automatic Jenna
[33:35]stamp.
[33:36]So why is it no lord's wife didn't get that stamp in
[33:41]their passport?
[33:41]Number four, when you say that she have a problem with the
[33:45]wives.
[33:45]I've never had a problem with Salma.
[33:47]No, no, but you have a problem with all the wives.
[33:49]But where's my problem with Salah?
[33:51]Salah with the prophet was lovely and Salma told me about Kbella
[33:55]cuz she lived all the way till Kbella.
[33:57]Where's my issue?
[33:56]And even the other wives, if a wife did not fight Ali
[34:01]and raise thousands to fight him, cuz you in your discussion with
[34:04]Sneo, you say that I will never accept how Iran killed hundreds
[34:07]of thousands of Sunni in Yemen and Iraq and so on.
[34:10]So how do you accept the mother of the believers killing so
[34:12]many Muslims at German?
[34:15]It's very interesting when we play the clip from Cambridge University, you'll
[34:18]see that the professor at the Cambridge Mosque himself mentions that completely
[34:25]regretted causing the biggest fitnner in Islam.
[34:29]Please play the clip from the Cambridge professor.
[34:33]um battle uh ensued uh the battle of the camel because she
[34:39]was in the middle of it with her palenquinn uh trying to
[34:44]direct things in this chaotic world and it's not a huge battle
[34:48]by modern standards um and it's not a huge battle by the
[34:51]standards of say the battle of Yaramok or one of the huge
[34:56]battles that the Sahaba had been engaged with against um neighboring empires
[34:59]but it's still very painful ali forces which are larger and more
[35:04]united win.
[35:06]Afterwards, he's startled when he goes around the battlefield to see how
[35:10]many great companions have been in her army.
[35:14]Um Ali orders her brother Muhammad to take her back to Mecca
[35:20]and later on all the sources agree that she's kind of really
[35:23]sorry that she took part in this battle that kind of was
[35:28]a spontaneous conflration in a chaotic situation.
[35:32]So she'd say, If only I died before the day of the
[35:35]camel.
[35:43]I wish I had died before the day of the camel.
[35:48]Am I the problem?
[35:52]The really I've got over here leading army of Sahaba to kill
[35:57]Sahaba.
[35:57]But that's still even if you mention it a million times, it
[36:00]won't click.
[36:01]Why?
[36:01]Because as we see in the next clip, he wants to use
[36:05]a verse in the Quran to Sneo and say to him, "No,
[36:06]look, this one verse in the Quran, it shows you that all
[36:10]the companions are amazing.
[36:10]Even if they all killed each other, even they all fought each
[36:12]other, even if says later, doesn't matter.
[36:20]Play the next clip." You know what always like ends this point
[36:26]is Allah in the Quran says Allah in the Quran himself says
[36:31]that the Sahabah Abu Bakr Omar and Ali all of these people
[36:34]they're talking about right can you bring this verse up on the
[36:36]screen so we can read it chapter 9 of the Quran verse
[36:39]100 because you know they believe in the Quran we believe in
[36:40]the Quran we both believe in the same book so why don't
[36:44]we go to to the book and the Quran and see what
[36:46]the Quran says about >> and that's what I did when they
[36:50]started talking about how they pray to uh Ali is like a
[36:52]mediator I'm like well the Quran says, "The dead can't hear, so
[36:56]he's dead.
[36:55]How can he hear you?" Like, I I just I go back.
[36:58]>> Absolutely.
[36:59]100%.
[36:59]Well, I'm going to get to that point.
[37:01]That's the second point that that you were saying about them.
[37:02]I'm going to refute that as well.
[37:04]We're going to talk about it, but I want you to read
[37:06]this verse about Sahaba first and and then we can talk about
[37:09]this verse as well.
[37:10]>> Okay.
[37:11]So, this is uh surah fatir.
[37:13]>> No, chap.
[37:15]Yeah.
[37:16]Surah verse 100.
[37:18]Yes.
[37:17]>> This what is fat?
[37:19]What is this?
[37:19]>> Yeah.
[37:21]This is I don't I don't don't so it says yeah as
[37:28]for the foremost for the first immigrants the all of the companions
[37:31]that immigrated to the prophetam and those who aided him when he
[37:34]went to Medina.
[37:35]So all of the companions that went with him from Mecca to
[37:36]Medina did the immigration and all of the helpers that helped him
[37:40]in Medina which includes all of the companions Abu Bakr all of
[37:42]these people and those who followed him in goodness me you people
[37:45]who follow the companions of the prophetam Allah is pleased with them
[37:50]and they are pleased with him >> and Allah prepared for them
[37:55]gardens paradise basically whichever rivers flow beneath they will stay there forever
[37:59]>> that is the ultimate victory >> right >> so how would
[38:03]Allah say this about those people, okay?
[38:04]And you would come and tell me we cursed them, we insult
[38:08]them, they were bad, they were not.
[38:09]How is Allah pleased with them and telling me to follow them
[38:11]and that Allah is going to be pleased with me if if
[38:14]if I follow them.
[38:16]The the classic classic verse used by members of the Sunni world.
[38:23]Surah 9 verse 100.
[38:23]Let's read it all.
[38:26]Let's come down.
[38:31]Famous lines.
[38:32]And that's why in the Sunni world when they hear the name
[38:36]of on the basis of this because of this ayah.
[38:38]Now what's interesting about this ayah is two things.
[38:42]Why do we never read the ayah after it?
[38:45]Why Muslim lantern?
[38:46]Why do you read for sneak the verse after it?
[38:49]Let's go to the verse after it because this one here verse
[38:53]100 it says as for the foremost the first of the muajal
[38:55]and the hanssar and those who follow them in goodness God's pleased
[38:57]with them and they are pleased with him.
[38:59]The next ayah, verse 101.
[39:02]And of those who are around you, of the rustic Arabs of
[39:05]the desert, there are hypocrites.
[39:07]And from the inhabitants of Medina, stubborn are they in hypocrisy.
[39:13]You do not know them.
[39:17]We know them.
[39:17]Twice will we chastise them.
[39:20]Then they shall be turned unto a grievous chastisement.
[39:24]You mentioned Surah 9 verse 100.
[39:27]Why don't you mention 101?
[39:29]There's a balance.
[39:31]I would kiss the dust under their feet.
[39:35]Abu Darafari is on my head and there are amongst the people
[39:42]around the prophet the biggest that Allah had to even give us
[39:46]a surah called and you blamed the whole surah on oneaf Abdahb.
[39:49]There was no other just him not the 12 on the bypass.
[39:53]We don't need to mention them.
[39:54]Go and do your research, Ziko.
[39:57]Do your research about the 12 who tried to kill the prophet
[40:00]and the bypass on the mountain on the way back from Tabuk.
[40:04]Do your research on that.
[40:05]I'd love to hear what your conclusion is about those 12 probably
[40:08]knows who they are.
[40:10]You can find out more about that.
[40:12]Second thing is sneaker on Muslim Lantern.
[40:14]I just want to ask you a question.
[40:17]When you say that this when you say that this is about
[40:25]people like and im Ali and all of these Yeah.
[40:33]Did these people know this ayah?
[40:36]Yes, they did.
[40:36]Did they know that it promises them Jenna?
[40:38]Yes, they did.
[40:39]So, what are they doing?
[40:40]Have a punchup at Jal and Saf?
[40:41]Would I have a punchup with someone who's going Jenna?
[40:44]If an ayah is revealed about me and I'm sitting around the
[40:47]prophet, he's like, "All of you are going Jenna." Sab Muaj and
[40:52]Ansar, would I really 25 years later raise my sword to kill
[40:54]someone who I know a verse about Jenna was revealed about them?
[40:58]Because you seem to know the ayah better than those guys did
[41:02]because those guys ended up having a fight with each other.
[41:03]You seem in 2026 to understand the ayah better than them.
[41:07]Clearly those guys didn't believe all of them were going to Jenna
[41:13]from amongst the and from amongst the as for you saying that
[41:23]the Shia curse or abuse the Sahabah we learned that from who?
[41:26]We learned that from when he abused and the prophet said or
[41:33]don't curse any of my companions in their skirmish and I've discussed
[41:38]this already.
[41:40]Okay.
[41:42]Also, Sneo mentioned something.
[41:44]Let's go to the last clip inshallah or the second to last
[41:50]clip actually.
[41:49]Um let's let's go to that one please.
[41:51]The next one the next clip.
[41:54]They're alive meaning in the bar being rewarded.
[41:57]So they're not alive but they're not in this worldly realm.
[42:00]>> I mean let's take okay I'll tell you something.
[42:02]Let's take their interpretation.
[42:03]Okay let's say and and and like I said this doesn't work
[42:07]in any way with the Quran.
[42:08]But let's take this interpretation.
[42:09]Okay let's say X is alive a person who died I im
[42:13]Ali or anyone you want to say is alive.
[42:15]Okay.
[42:14]Does Imam Ali speak English?
[42:17]Does he speak Ordo?
[42:17]Does he speak Pharisee?
[42:19]>> So when I call upon him in the even the Arabic
[42:21]of today is not the Arabic of 1,400 years ago.
[42:22]>> Can you hear me?
[42:24]When I call upon him in any language, can he understands me?
[42:25]Even even if he could hear me, can he understand me?
[42:28]No.
[42:29]Okay.
[42:30]How can if you call upon him and I call upon him,
[42:34]can he hear both of us in the same time?
[42:34]>> Who has the ability of understanding all languages who are hearing
[42:38]all sounds?
[42:38]>> Good point.
[42:41]Yeah.
[42:40]>> Allah even if I wanted to take this this lousy interpretation
[42:44]understanding, you are giving him divine attributes because there's no way he's
[42:48]going to understand everyone.
[42:48]He's going to hear everyone.
[42:49]He's going to respond to everyone >> unless this is the case.
[42:53]But they would say, I'll tell you what they would say.
[42:54]They would say Allah gave him that ability.
[42:55]What's the difference between that and Jesus then?
[42:58]Okay, God.
[42:57]>> That's what I said.
[42:59]I said it sounds like Christianity.
[43:00]It sounds like you're deifying a man, which is which but that's
[43:03]what I'm saying.
[43:05]It's not the intention of shark.
[43:07]It's it's misguided.
[43:06]So again >> look I think if there if there is any
[43:13]point which is being mentioned by Muslim lantern and sne in particular
[43:19]which really is the one that confuses them is when they hear
[43:21]the for example saying Ali and this is something within the Shia
[43:24]community no one can deny that in the Shia community you'll hear
[43:30]people saying Aliad it is there but you'll find that within our
[43:34]it works for example I look over here by when I want
[43:42]to come and see what is it that I as a must
[43:46]believe in.
[43:48]For example, I believe as a in the shaf of Muhammad and
[43:51]al Muhammad that for me is an obligatory belief.
[43:56]Any other belief if someone in the Shia community believes something I
[43:59]do not take them as the example.
[44:02]I take what the says the says that is obligatory for me
[44:05]to believe in.
[44:07]For example, if you look over here, if I go to the
[44:14]section on intercession, I come here and I see look over here
[44:16]page 63, intercession, promise and threat.
[44:19]The right of intercession belongs to prophets and and amongst believers also
[44:25]there are some who can intercede on behalf of people equal in
[44:28]the number of the tribes of and people like there are hadiths
[44:33]associated with them on this even the least of believers will be
[44:35]able to intercede on behalf of 30,000 people there can be no
[44:40]forgiveness for skeptics and polytheists nor for unbelievers but the sinful amongst
[44:44]those who believe in the unity of Allah may be forgiven now
[44:46]when someone comes and tells me What is your shia opinion on
[44:49]intercession?
[44:50]The only opinion that I can have as a sh which I
[44:57]believe in wholeheartedly and is in my it works is now someone
[44:59]says but I saw someone out there he was saying yeah Aliad
[45:05]person says Imam Ali's name out of love like some of the
[45:07]sahaba used to say the prophet's name after he had died out
[45:11]of love they would mention his name because of how close he
[45:14]is to Allah.
[45:14]No one actually believes that these people are helping us independently of
[45:17]Allah and they've got some magical powers or anything at all.
[45:23]Sneo did jump in and say that they've deified Ali like the
[45:26]Christians deified Jesus.
[45:29]But Jesus in the Quran, Allah subhana wa ta'ala did give him
[45:33]attributes from God to Christ.
[45:33]If you look in surah 5 verse 110 of the Holy Quran,
[45:38]you'll see very clearly that Jesus was able to resurrect the dead
[45:41]and make them alive.
[45:44]Jesus was able to cure the blind.
[45:45]Jesus was able to cure the leper.
[45:48]But all with the permission of Allah subhana wa ta'ala.
[45:51]This idea therefore has to be made clear to us and to
[45:57]the non-shia that in our what is fundamental for us to believe
[46:05]is discussions concerning areas of are all discussions which even give a
[46:09]whole host of opinions.
[46:10]But there has never been analam who will come forward and say
[46:12]that any human being can do something independent of Allah.
[46:17]Someone might turn around and say well in the Quran do you
[46:19]have proofs for these things?
[46:20]We have proofs in Quran and hadith.
[46:21]If we look for example in Quran some theologians mention the idea
[46:29]that the holy prophet peace be upon him and his family is
[46:31]in the highest state of bar.
[46:32]These are theological opinions and that those who had died even at
[46:37]the battle of bad the prophet went and spoke to them and
[46:39]spoke in the well he said he they can hear me better
[46:43]than you can hear me and the prophet hears us but the
[46:44]jump onto answering all of our this is nothing I don't see
[46:51]anything here in the creed for a person to fundamentally have to
[46:53]believe in these things except that we all believe that Allah answers
[46:57]all of our but we mention the names of or we mention
[47:02]our salah our soul or our good deeds or the Quran or
[47:05]a sincere act maybe as a was between us and Allah subhana
[47:08]wa ta'ala and that's why if you look at this final clip
[47:10]you'll see that even the Sunni world the debate concerning mentioning the
[47:16]name of somebody holy when you are asking for something there is
[47:19]a debate in the Sunni world even on this issue please play
[47:21]this final clip have a look at this video by and then
[47:27]we'll talk some more inshallah >> people who believe in do they
[47:33]believe that they are worshiping someone beside Allah.
[47:34]>> No, >> come on, man.
[47:36]>> No, they don't.
[47:37]>> A Muslim was saying, >> "Yeah." >> Yeah.
[47:42]>> Okay.
[47:44]He doesn't Yeah.
[47:46]He doesn't >> worship someone beside Allah.
[47:49]if he believes that this is the best way to go to
[47:51]Allah to to get closer to Allah to worship Allah by going
[47:56]to this saint to that saint and maybe yes some of the
[48:00]ignorant people they do things that no one accept in Islam and
[48:05]we should have a uniformity in the true meaning of the essence
[48:09]of we never said that we will unify with those who do
[48:16]not believe that the prophet sallallaihi wasallam is final prophet because this
[48:21]is what this is a matter of and this is a true
[48:24]matter of what of >> firstly I just want to say cudos
[48:30]toad it's never easy to express a view which is different to
[48:33]what your group or circle might say what shead just said in
[48:36]that short clip is everything that we've been saying from day one
[48:41]firstly I have the same opinion when it comes to and the
[48:45]same as nothing different nothing less I believe in and when we
[48:53]do we don't believe that Allah's messenger sai wasallam is independent from
[48:58]Allah cuz that would be shik we believe that Allah subhanahu wa
[49:02]ta'ala is the true granter and the only granter but the messenger
[49:07]of Allah al- Mustafa the chosen one is the perfect messenger and
[49:11]vessel through whom Allah wala gives to this ummah till this day
[49:15]had it not been foram am we wouldn't have we wouldn't have
[49:22]we wouldn't have we wouldn't have all the that we do the
[49:25]good characters that we know about and the which is done is
[49:28]done according to the Quran and sunnah just like the hadith we
[49:34]find where the words are actually in the dua so the should
[49:38]take note from somebody like don't just go around throwing the card
[49:41]that you guys always have of calling everyone he's a mushik he's
[49:46]a mushik he's a mushik there's tons of people in my comments
[49:48]that call me a mushri all the time now they don't even
[49:52]stop to think how many of them have called me a mushik
[49:53]but in reality have fallen into shik themselves by saying so let
[49:58]that sink in for a little while follow a sahhabi not a
[50:01]wahhabi so you see even within the sunni world there are differences
[50:06]of opinion on these issues and likewise within the shi world there
[50:08]are differences of opinion on these issues my last piece of advice
[50:11]is very simple 23rd night of the holy month of Ramadan Shia
[50:16]around the world are all going to their mosques to do to
[50:18]get closer to Allah subhana wa ta'ala.
[50:20]One of the opinions is that this is look at the duas
[50:25]that the Shia are reciting and see the in these duas.
[50:28]If you try to read dua or dua or dua or any
[50:35]of the others recite for example in some dua or look at
[50:41]all of these and you'll see the communication between the andah subhana
[50:45]wa ta'ala and how close they are to Allah and how they
[50:50]call upon Allah.
[50:52]Open your hearts to read these and whatever you decide to choose
[50:54]in your life is completely up to you.
[50:56]You want to call yourself Muslim, be Muslim.
[50:59]Ultimately, the whole aim is to get closer to Allah subhanahu wa'ta'ala.
[51:05]All of this advice was given inshallah with good sincere intention.
[51:08]May Allah bless you all.
[51:09]Wasalam alaykum.
[51:21]Hey, away.
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