22- (1) Islamic Beliefs - Imamate in Sunni Theology - Sayed Mohammad Baqer Qazwini

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[0:01]audhu billahi min as-shaytan ar-rajim bismillah r-rahman r-rahim al-hamdu lillahi rabbil alameen

[0:11]oh allah allah sayidina muhammadin wa ala nabina Baha'i respected brothers and

[0:21]sisters salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato i welcome you to our

[0:29]second year of islamic beliefs or i thought it the most important

[0:34]aspect of our faith is the belief system the belief system represents

[0:41]the core of the religion of islam it has greater weight than

[0:50]actions that is why you find the holy quran always mentioning belief

[0:57]Iman before deeds Amin yeah you are latina a man who Allah

[1:02]Spanish Allah speaks about the people who believe that's what defines a

[1:09]believer the one who has faith and when Allah spano to Allah

[1:13]describes Muslims or those people of high rank Allah says I'm a

[1:20]new y miño sila hat they believe and they do good Salaam

[1:24]alaikum WA Rahmatullah last year we examined three of the very important

[1:30]pillars of faith the first one was the existence and the oneness

[1:37]of allah subhanaw taala we examined that in detail we examined the

[1:42]attributes of the almighty god the attributes of glory safar al Jamal

[1:52]well Jalan the attributes of glory the attributes of beauty we examined

[1:59]the justice of Allah Subhanahu WA Ta'ala how that is a pillar

[2:04]of our faith then we examined prophethood why do we have prophets

[2:10]how is it that they performed miracles what defines a miracle what

[2:21]is revelation that they received which we also examined very important characteristics

[2:25]of prophets that they have to be infallible for instance then we

[2:31]examined the holy quran many people ask how is the holy quran

[2:38]the miraculous word of god especially for non arabic speakers how do

[2:41]i know that this is the word of god how do I

[2:45]know that the Quran contains miracles we offered you a glimpse of

[2:49]the literary miracle of the Quran how in its eloquence in its

[2:58]bonaga it served as clear proof that this was from Allah subhana

[3:01]WA Ta'ala then we examined the issue of the distortion of the

[3:05]Quran - - Quran has the Quran just been distorted or not

[3:09]and the types of distortions that some have claimed have occurred in

[3:14]the Holy Quran we ended there this year we continue with the

[3:19]fourth pillar of religion the 4th US of a Sulha dean because

[3:26]we have five this one is the fourth and this is the

[3:31]belief in Amana or divine leadership divine successorship mama is a very

[3:42]important aspect of our belief system let us first define what Amana

[3:47]is and then in our discussion tonight will present the Sun the

[3:53]understanding of a mama and critique it then next week we will

[3:59]examine the shiaa a perspective of what a mama means what is

[4:05]the definition of a mama Obama is a position that succeeds prophethood

[4:13]therefore a mama is a continuation of a previous message it is

[4:22]not an establishment of a new message a prophet may bring a

[4:27]new message prophet Musa al-salaam brought a new book to humanity prophet

[4:32]ISA ad salam brought new teachings to humanity our beloved Prophet Muhammad

[4:39]Sal Allahu alayhi wa honor he brought the final most complete religion

[4:44]of God the Imams of a little bait or the successors to

[4:51]any prophet when we talk about ammama we're talking about successorship those

[4:56]who succeed the Prophet they continue that same message they don't establish

[5:02]a new message that same message is continued and they serve as

[5:08]the protectors of that message so the prophet salallahu alayhi wa ala

[5:12]brings the message the Imam protects it the man and he said

[5:18]I'm defends it the imam ali salam elaborates on it delivers it

[5:21]to those people who did not have a chance to meet the

[5:24]Prophet and ask him all those details this is the position of

[5:31]imama and this is how it's different than prophethood number two amanda

[5:38]is a universal position in worldly and religious affairs why do we

[5:45]say it is a world it is a universal position because it

[5:52]is not confined to a particular geographic area some prophets in the

[5:57]past their job was to deliver the teachings of God in a

[6:00]particular geography in this city in this village in this area Universal

[6:05]prophets are not that many how many Universal prophets do we have

[6:08]Prophet Ibrahim yes because he also had the position of being an

[6:17]imam his message was universal whereas most other prophets our last panel

[6:22]to Allah sent them to their people and their message was confined

[6:25]to their people they were not universal messengers Prophet Muhammad Sal Allahu

[6:31]Allahu Allah is a universal messenger and Iman his leadership is universal

[6:38]he's not confined to a geographic area or to a time and

[6:42]space the imam ali salam is appointed as a leader for all

[6:48]of humanity and it is Rajab it is obligatory upon everyone to

[6:53]follow the Imam during their era so when we have an Imam

[6:56]of our time he's not the Imam for those in the Middle

[7:01]East those in Mikado's and Medina no he is a universal amount

[7:05]for everyone now this is something that's quite unique to ammama because

[7:09]if you look at the lives of previous prophets usually they were

[7:15]sent to a particular area whereas the Imams they are universal leaders

[7:19]just like the Prophet sallallaahu anyone who is a universal leader and

[7:23]the reason why we said in worldly and religious affairs is because

[7:28]the Imam is not only an authority in religious affairs teaching us

[7:33]about our religion the imam ali salam also has authority in worldly

[7:40]affairs the imam ali sallam has the authority to issue commands when

[7:43]it comes to daily affairs even things that are not directly related

[7:47]to religion the imam ali sallam has the authority to rule to

[7:51]establish a state to give commands give rose to people so his

[8:00]leadership and authority is not confined to the religious sphere even in

[8:07]political matters in social matters the Imam Ali Saran has authority so

[8:12]this is the second understanding of Imam so in some a mama

[8:19]is a general type of authority granted by allah subhanaw taala a

[8:26]mama in our definition is a position given by the Almighty God

[8:33]now here's a very important question is Imam a part of a

[8:36]Sulha Dean or for a Dean is it part of the pillars

[8:40]of faith or the branches of faith Salam aleikum what's the difference

[8:44]when something is part of the branches of faith first of all

[8:52]it's secondary compared to the pillars of faith it's important but less

[8:59]important number two it becomes subject to people's HT hi that jurisprudence

[9:06]and opinions I'll give you an example let's say our prayer that

[9:09]we pray if you doubt your if you have a doubt whether

[9:14]you're in the third or fourth raka what do you do in

[9:16]that case scholars can look at Islamic legal hadith and they could

[9:22]give you different opinions the hell on the signing of the moon

[9:25]if it's cited in one area do other areas follow or no

[9:30]just those areas that are close can you see the moon with

[9:33]binoculars or doesn't have to be with a naked eye these go

[9:40]back to the HT had the understanding of a qualified scholar they

[9:43]could have different opinions because this is part of through a Dean

[9:47]the branches of faith so we could have different understandings but when

[9:53]it comes to Osuna Dean the core of faith that's not something

[9:56]where you give your HT hat on for example its Prophet Muhammad

[10:02]SAW allow anyone a prophet or not is that something we discuss

[10:06]and have different each day I know we might have certain it's

[10:12]too high that on the details of it some qualities of what

[10:15]makes you a prophet but the fact that prophethood is part of

[10:20]a Sudha Dean the fact that he was a prophet appointed by

[10:22]God no discussion this is a sueded Dean the existence of God

[10:26]God exists or he doesn't exist is this something subject to our

[10:31]you know expert opinions no because assorted Dean represents the core of

[10:36]faith so really it's not an area where scholars try to use

[10:44]their understanding of what you know the sources are a sort of

[10:48]deal is a reflection of reality the day of judgment do we

[10:52]have a day of judgment or no that's not something that we

[10:56]argue about and discuss we can we can discuss the details of

[10:58]the day of judgment but the actual essence of the day of

[11:01]judgment should not use it disputed imama successorship to the Prophet is

[11:09]it part of a Sunnah Dean like prophethood there should be no

[11:13]discussion it represents the core of faith if you don't accept it

[11:16]there's a problem with your faith it's incomplete or know it's like

[11:20]the legal issues like the sighting of the moon fine we have

[11:26]different interpretations different opinions whether you accept it or not it doesn't

[11:29]really make a big difference it's just a secondary issue that you're

[11:35]discussing which one is it let's first examine the mainstream Sunnyview before

[11:40]we examine the shia view because it's very important for us to

[11:45]know what is the mainstream sunni view of imam ghazali says in

[11:52]one of his books he says LM an another awfully mam eti

[11:56]even a Seminole Muhammad Malaysia even men feminine maku not been Minerva

[12:02]Piatt bizarrely a very prominent Sunni scholar was many many books he

[12:12]has many contributions to sunni theology he says know that amana is

[12:16]not one of those critical issues it's just a legal issue when

[12:23]I'm Sookie arts just like the legal rulings how you do your

[12:27]with all the details of fasting these things it's not doesn't represent

[12:31]the core of faith so Muhammad our little sohbat one more vanilla

[12:37]leafy huh Aslam woman and car every huh he says that it's

[12:44]even better not to discuss Obama and argue about it and debate

[12:49]it because it's a sectarian issue that could create problems and differences

[12:55]but then he has to justify something when he is talking about

[13:01]theology and Islamic beliefs in the end he talks about imama so

[13:06]he's now trying to justify if a mama is not part of

[13:11]a Sulha Deen why are you discussing and you're discussing it in

[13:14]your theology book you should discuss it in your 50 book and

[13:16]your book of rulings he says because it has been the tradition

[13:23]of scholars to discuss it in theology I'm also discussing it otherwise

[13:28]I don't believe we should even discuss it in Islamic beliefs we

[13:31]should discuss it in Islamic law legal issues it's a secondary issue

[13:35]it's not the core of belief this is who gazali who is

[13:41]very important so suddenly scholars historically have even discouraged not the laymen

[13:48]even discouraged themselves from you know examining ammama in depth because they're

[13:55]like this is not part of the Asura Dean why spent so

[13:57]much time discussing it a few points that we would like to

[14:03]critique when it comes to the Sunni position about him amma if

[14:07]they consider a mama and Khilafah secondary why do we have this

[14:17]huge historical battle about a mama if someone right now historically goes

[14:21]and says I don't recognize Abu Bakr Omar Othman as leaders according

[14:27]to what they said Kenneth's an imam is a part of a

[14:31]solid Deen or Ali issue that's a legal issue so why do

[14:38]you make that person and declare that percent coffee if they don't

[14:43]recognize those three because it's a legal issue so you're a sort

[14:46]of Dean are fine right I'm koala they're also the Dean is

[14:51]what belief in God prophethood day of judgment okay I believe in

[14:54]all these three I don't want to believe in the imams of

[14:56]those three in the Caliphate of those three why do you consider

[15:01]me a heretic if someone comes and says you know what I

[15:03]have a different opinion about the hill on you mate you declare

[15:08]him a kafir of course not that's a if the person is

[15:10]qualified to be a a jurist is an expert they are entitled

[15:17]to their opinion right and it's it's wrong for you to come

[15:20]and say Oh your car fail because you don't believe in this

[15:26]legal issue whereas the way they treat decay lifts and how you

[15:30]view them reveals that it's not just a legal issue no it's

[15:34]more significant than that otherwise why all those battles all that bloodshed

[15:38]all those political problems because of this issue does it make sense

[15:41]if it's just a legal minor secondary issue what's the fuss right

[15:48]now you have the format I have three of them pray with

[15:52]their hands crossed one of them the minor key they pray with

[15:55]their hands down do you see historical wars because of this are

[16:00]they doing tech fear of each other declaring each other castles and

[16:04]disbelievers because of this no why not because it's a thirty issue

[16:07]and their scholars are saying imamat is a fifty issue so if

[16:10]it's a fifty issue what's all this commotion in history double standards

[16:15]here if it's a fifty issue then let people decide who their

[16:20]Imam is they want to believe in those three Caleb's or not

[16:23]big deal it's a fifty issue so that's one very important observation

[16:27]about how they classify the Imams so we see there is a

[16:36]fundamental difference between the Sunni view and the Shia view the Sunnis

[16:39]believe the Imam the Caliph is just a political position could be

[16:43]selected by the people and in fact there aren't many conditions for

[16:50]the ruler to fulfill even if the imam or Khalifa deviates spreads

[16:57]corruption commits sins kills people commits activism injustice you have to just

[17:04]shut your mouth and accept who says that's a hate Muslim listen

[17:10]to this hadith in Sahih Muslim supposedly rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa know

[17:17]that II AM mattoon lie to do neighbor who died while Iast

[17:25]a noona be so naughty and Sahih Muslim which is the second

[17:29]most prominent book of hadith that they have the other schools of

[17:33]thought after Bihari the Prophet Sal Allahu Allahu Allah is supposedly in

[17:37]this hadith says after me there will be leaders Imams they will

[17:43]not walk on the path of guidance that belongs to me and

[17:48]they will not observe my Sunnah what is tan una be so

[17:55]naughty then the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa says wah say a poem

[18:04]original ooba-dooba shayateen feedeth manion's the the Rahui the person who heard

[18:09]this hadith from the Prophet he asked him que fastener Alisoun Allah

[18:13]a direct genetic the honest to Allah if I will live to

[18:16]experience such an era where the Imam the Khalifa is not following

[18:22]your son is not on the path of guidance what should I

[18:25]do you know what the Prophet SAW Allah says in this hadith

[18:32]tests Muhammad ot only Ameer you have to listen and obey the

[18:35]Ameer when the Republic even if he hits your back well after

[18:41]the Maliki confiscates your money and property faster smarter you have to

[18:47]listen you have told me brothers and sisters does any prophet let

[18:52]alone a prophet does a wise person save words like this if

[18:57]I appoint someone not to rule a state or a city I

[19:03]appoint someone in my business and my business I have a little

[19:06]business and I want to go away for a month and I

[19:10]appoint someone and I tell you look even if you see this

[19:14]guy destroying my business just say yes except even if he oppresses

[19:19]you doesn't pay you and he just goes against the very values

[19:26]that my business is based upon just accept even if he beats

[19:29]you except now will you say about me if I do this

[19:33]would you have respect for me and this is a rasoolullah sallallahu

[19:40]on the greatest creation of God these are the words of sahih

[19:43]muslim and they consider this hadith ie yes and that's why you

[19:48]find them historically implementing this the minute you talk about a ruler

[19:54]a Salif committing acts of injustice no no you have no right

[19:58]the most that you do is just admonish them give them advice

[20:04]you cannot fight them you cannot remove them from power even if

[20:08]they become the most corrupt people on earth what kind of religion

[20:11]is this this is the sunni view of amman and as we're

[20:17]discussing this by the way we're not attacking any any any school

[20:20]of thought this is just an academic critique you respect Muslims and

[20:25]they have their you know school of thought but this is really

[20:31]problematic if you simply apply this to the standards of the Quran

[20:36]does this opinion hold when you compare it to the spirit of

[20:40]justice and all the Quran or no why would Allah spano Ta'ala

[20:46]want a leader who is unjust to stay in power why is

[20:48]this good for humanity or not so what are the conditions that

[20:57]Sunni schools of thought have placed for the Imam first of all

[21:00]there they don't have an agreement each sunni school of thought or

[21:06]Sunni scholar has different conditions and requirements which in itself is disturb

[21:10]because Amana is such an important issue you know you would think

[21:14]that the profits on Allahu Allahu Allah explained what the conditions are

[21:19]he should have why leave it vague why leave it up to

[21:22]us to try to figure out what the conditions are the Prophet

[21:25]explained to us the little conditions of everyday normal issues buying selling

[21:32]even even if you scratch somebody you don't cut somebody's hands no

[21:37]you just scratch them the Prophet taught Muslims what kind of compensation

[21:41]you have to give now an important issue like Imam and the

[21:44]Prophet is not going to tell us the conditions so they have

[21:48]a lot of contradictory and conflicting ideas about what the conditions are

[21:53]but here are the most three common conditions most sunni scholars accept

[21:58]number one the imam has to be from polish for asia is

[22:01]that mekin tribe and the prophets of Allah Allahu Allah comes from

[22:06]that tribe this is unanimous there's no disagreement that the Imam must

[22:10]be from perish even Shia are we the Shia believe that because

[22:13]the Prophet SAW Allah Allahu Allah clearly said in a number of

[22:18]hadiths that the Imams after me are all from porridge so no

[22:21]discussion here everyone has accepted this condition the one who is khalifa

[22:26]and is qualified to represent the Prophet must be from Quraysh we'll

[22:34]get to that exactly even that they violated many of their caleb's

[22:39]whom they recognized as rulers or not from position number two the

[22:44]imam has to be just gladden has to have justice has to

[22:50]be upright you don't see them publicly sinning they're reliable they're trustworthy

[22:56]number three they have to have be knowledgable now they don't have

[22:59]to be the most knowledgeable according to Sydney theology but they have

[23:03]to have knowledge about the faith knowledge about the shelia of the

[23:06]Prophet knowledge of the Quran they have to have some good level

[23:11]of knowledge for them to be able to properly represent the prophets

[23:14]of Allah Allah you are a so these are the three conditions

[23:21]that suddenly schools of thoughts are pretty much in agreement about knowledge

[23:25]the Imam has to have some good level of knowledge - number

[23:33]one number two just idle number three and they must have at

[23:37]least a good level of knowledge now here's our observations about these

[23:41]three conditions if Sonny's accept Sunni scholars and theology if they accept

[23:50]that justice Adana is a requirement for the Imam how do they

[23:58]accept these hadith that say if the Imam becomes unjust and corrupt

[24:01]you still have to obey them is it this a contradiction for

[24:11]you think this is reasonable illogical that's problematic we have a contradiction

[24:16]here a discrepancy on the one hand you say one of the

[24:21]conditions of the amounts to be just on the other hand you

[24:23]say no whatever he does accept and obey and keep him in

[24:28]power that's problematic these two don't add up how do you accept

[24:31]these two at the same time either you have to say no

[24:34]justice is not a requirement or you don't accept those hadith that

[24:37]tell you if the imam becomes corrupt then you have to not

[24:42]do anything and except this is a clear contradiction over here if

[24:45]I impose a condition on any position in my business and my

[24:51]school and anything if I have a condition and someone is not

[24:54]meeting that condition or they qualify to stay in that position if

[24:57]for example you run a school and you have defined in your

[25:03]bylaws that the principal of that school has to meet these conditions

[25:06]1 2 3 4 5 6 months later the principal whom you've

[25:11]appointed or has been elected there's no longer meeting those conditions what

[25:18]do people do in an average society so they say oh no

[25:20]just keep him and fine he's the principal we're stuck with him

[25:25]for life what do we do what do rational people do of

[25:28]course if he is insisting on making those violations yes sometimes you

[25:33]could admonish them give them advice hold them accountable and they'll change

[25:36]fine we give people chances but if the principal is defying they

[25:44]get fired that's even the most simple position we have that now

[25:49]when it comes to the Imam they are saying the Imam has

[25:53]to be just but hey if he becomes unjust no no no

[25:55]don't fire him just keep him in power that's a contradiction so

[26:01]we have this critique that these two don't add up and this

[26:05]in itself is problematic number two and I want you to pay

[26:10]close attention to this fundamental point the prophet sallallaahu Allen according to

[26:16]Sunni theology and Shia theology and in our hadith he says the

[26:20]imam must be from Quraysh let's try to analyze this condition because

[26:26]there are two ways of looking at it why does the Prophet

[26:32]say the Imam has to be from parish does the Prophet is

[26:35]the Prophet really telling us that being Karachi being from Koresh is

[26:46]essential meaning the Imam has to be from parish just because he

[26:51]has to be from Quraysh no other reason if this is the

[26:58]condition if that what it boils down to then this is racism

[27:01]why why does the amount have to be from putting why is

[27:06]god favoring a race over another race the Quran tells us the

[27:08]most honorable in the eyes of God is a taco the one

[27:11]whose most pious the Prophet says no no no only if you're

[27:13]from perish from this race just because you're from this race you

[27:18]qualify to be an imam you find this acceptable good prophet the

[27:21]word the prophets are allowed annually by the instructions of God do

[27:26]something racist like that that's racist and doing something racist like that

[27:31]defies the holy quran the quran says in accra McCune and the

[27:38]lie at become the most honorable amongst you in the eyes of

[27:41]god is the one who's most pious the most god-fearing the most

[27:43]righteous but the Prophet says no no I don't care about any

[27:47]of that your parish you're qualified to be an imam that's impossible

[27:51]so what does the Prophet that mean when he says the Imams

[27:55]are from perish what kind of condition really is this any any

[28:02]ideas any clues he's pointing to the idol babes so let's kind

[28:09]of choose the right wording when the Prophet says the Imams are

[28:16]from Paris yes sister okay that's a valid point he's trying to

[28:22]keep the heritage but if there are other people who are trustworthy

[28:28]and reliable and righteous why can't they continue the heritage of the

[28:33]Prophet like for example the sudden you say if there are good

[28:35]companions let them continue the heritage of the Prophet why does it

[28:43]have to be his blood relatives they could make that argument right

[28:52]yes just because they're from parish they happen to be that's the

[28:58]key word here when the Prophet Sal Allahu Allahu Allah says the

[29:00]Imams are from Quraysh that's not really a condition it's a sign

[29:08]it's a sign Allah has appointed the Imams because they're righteous not

[29:13]because they're from perish they happen to be from flourish so the

[29:17]Prophet is giving us a sign to make it easier for us

[29:21]to distinguish who the Imams are the Prophet says look you want

[29:23]to know the Imams you don't have to go east and west

[29:25]and confuse yourself I'll give you a very easy sign there from

[29:30]Quraysh so he narrows it down for us to make it easy

[29:31]for us so the Imams of a little bit are not Imams

[29:36]because they're from Koresh they coincidentally happen to be from planation that's

[29:41]a sign I'll give you a parallel in previous books like in

[29:49]the original bible the taurat-injeel one sign about Prophet Muhammad Sal Allahu

[29:52]Allahu Allah was that the last messenger is Arab he comes from

[29:57]an Arab tribe is that a condition that means the Prophet the

[30:02]last prophet he is the Prophet just because he's Arab that's racism

[30:08]so what if he's there what do Arabs have that others don't

[30:11]have it's a sign it's assigned to let the people of the

[30:18]world know that the last Messenger is what as an Arab he

[30:20]comes from that region so go search for him there see it's

[30:25]only a sign it's not a prerequisite in the sense that you

[30:28]just have to be Arab for the sake of being Arab no

[30:30]Allah doesn't do things like that a lot considers everyone equal it's

[30:36]a sign and that's why the Jews of Medina there was a

[30:40]sizable Jewish population in Medina that's why they went to Medina and

[30:44]that's why they settled there because they had read in the Torah

[30:49]in their books that the last messenger would be from an Arab

[30:53]tribe in that region so they once waited for him they actually

[30:56]were waiting for the last messenger from there so this was simply

[31:04]a sign that they are from Parrish which tells us that the

[31:09]Prophet is referring to specific individuals when he says the Imams are

[31:15]from poor Asia he's pointing to specific individuals he's not saying whoever

[31:19]comes to this position and elected by the people and he's from

[31:23]punish no no he's not saying that he's saying they're all from

[31:27]Koresh means meaning I've already they've already been appointed I'm just giving

[31:31]you a site to find them see there's a very big difference

[31:35]if we take the suddenly understanding of what it means to be

[31:38]from Quraysh that means Islam is racist do you accept that that

[31:43]Islam is racist do you have to be from police just because

[31:46]from if you're from Kadesh will elect you if you're not not

[31:52]Salama is that acceptable but the Prophet is not saying that he

[31:55]say no these 12 Imams after me they've already been designated by

[31:58]God let me just give you a sign to make it easier

[32:03]for you to distinguish them they're from polish now that's different now

[32:07]the reason why Allah chose those 12 Imams is not because they're

[32:10]from polish it's because they were qualified so this is something very

[32:15]important to keep in mind let's examine the last point over here

[32:24]before we break for Salah is there a minimum number of people

[32:28]to elect the Imam and Sunni theology because Ernie says you can

[32:32]select the amount that's something that people can do how does a

[32:40]person become an imam and sunni theology a group of people can

[32:45]select him what is the minimum number many of them have mentioned

[32:51]that the minimum number to select an ax - 5 y because

[32:56]that's how the Caliphate of Abu Bakr started five people gave way

[33:00]out to him and others followed and he became the helluva Omar

[33:03]Abdullah table was the first one Salim mola ABI Haditha was the

[33:10]second one Abu Lahab Adell Jarrah was the third one oh say

[33:13]deben Hawaii was the fourth one Bishop inside these were the five

[33:20]who were the first to give baya to abu bakr so suddenly

[33:23]theology historically have said as long as you have five who choose

[33:26]a Khalifa he becomes the Khalifa some have said three some have

[33:33]said five but most of them have said five they also cite

[33:36]the Shura of romanovna Kaaba Omar when he appointed the sixth member

[33:41]sharor who would appoint the Imam after that or the Khalifa he

[33:46]appointed six right none of those six becomes the Khalifa so the

[33:51]five have to give their voice to him so at least you

[33:55]have to have five so they're taking the precedent from Omar and

[33:58]Abu back to establish that you have to have at least five

[34:03]what do you think about this condition if we accept this that

[34:10]means Abu Bakr al-baghdadi from Isis is the Khalifa - why not

[34:18]he's a Muslim he came out he had authority because that's one

[34:21]condition they say if you have authority and you try to impose

[34:22]your power and hey a lot more than five people gave him

[34:28]baya this is a big problem in Sunnis theology if you ask

[34:32]a Sunni objectively based on your theology why is Abu Bakr al-baghdadi

[34:36]not your honey for wine that disqualifies him he killed people well

[34:42]you say and the Khalifa can kill people unjustly at least five

[34:47]people gave way out to him and he ruled it's not like

[34:50]it's a fake hell after sometimes you could sit in your basement

[34:54]hey I'm Khalifa well that's a fake Khalifa nobody you don't have

[34:57]authority I will pass daddy had Authority he took half of Syria

[35:00]and Iraq he had an army why don't you recognize this caliphate

[35:05]just like Abu Bakr became a Khalifa five people paid gave him

[35:10]allegiance and the others were not given a choice that's it they

[35:12]pulled out the sword there were other villages consulted were other people

[35:17]other Muslims and the Muslim Ummah consulted do you accept it no

[35:23]a group of people at the sativa by the prophet's mosque they

[35:26]gathered they chose them as the Khalifa and that was imposed on

[35:29]people the same thing with Abu Bakr al-baghdadi why is he not

[35:36]a Khalifa we asked this honest question why is he not the

[35:39]Khalifa if you accept that he's actually fair that's a big disaster

[35:42]and if you don't accept that musically so tell us why justify

[35:48]it because your theology says he should miss anything the conditions for

[35:51]an imam are met in abu bakr al baghdadi and certain theology

[35:54]and that's a big problem that's why you find many of them

[35:57]they were confused that's why many young youth who had that religious

[36:04]passion they went and joined him because all their lives they're being

[36:07]taught this theology and now they suddenly saw you know what we

[36:10]have a Scalia who fulfills these conditions let's go become Shaheed with

[36:13]him a lot of people were drawn to Isis because of this

[36:20]type of theology that's very very problematic that's very very problematic this

[36:27]tells you the whole idea of how a khalifa is chosen is

[36:30]very problematic you leave the door open like that and the prophet

[36:36]sallallaahu anybody would not even you know let us know what happened

[36:42]at the time of work not everyone accepted this kunafa you know

[36:45]what you what you hear there was consensus that he was a

[36:49]funny for no one that's a myth as zubayr the cousin of

[36:52]the prophet he took out his sword and he was willing to

[36:57]fight when according to the book and amana was sea otter Omar

[37:01]abdul-fattah he you know threatened him they took his sword and he

[37:05]even called him a dog yes companions slandering other companions subhanAllah look

[37:11]at our history see how the companions sometimes they used to talk

[37:14]to each other and now they have this glory about them you

[37:19]can't say anything but they themselves need to fight each other kill

[37:22]each other's slandered each other they used to even cuss each other

[37:25]this isn't their books in the in the books of history unfortunately

[37:31]so it's a myth to say that everyone accepted the kunafa but

[37:34]no a group of people selected him he gained power it was

[37:39]imposed on the others and you know people didn't some of them

[37:42]tried to resist they were dealt with with force and a lot

[37:47]of people just accepted the political power because they were not willing

[37:52]to fight so that's something that is very very important to consider

[37:57]so this was briefly an overview of the position of a mama

[38:01]and Sunni theology for them as we mentioned just to recap it's

[38:08]a fifty issue for a lot of them it's not part of

[38:09]a sordid need or as we believe it's part of us or

[38:13]indeed number two they don't believe it's my divine appointment God is

[38:16]not the one who chooses day but you choose them how do

[38:20]you choose them as we mentioned is problematic who does it have

[38:23]to be everyone almost limbs well that didn't happen for Abu but

[38:28]or Omar or athma none of the none of those three caliphs

[38:30]the entire Ummah selected them in fact there was always position and

[38:35]the minimum number is problematic that they've stated five right so this

[38:43]is a critique of the system that they have for the Amana

[38:50]next week in shala will examine the Sheila understanding of Yama and

[38:53]will see from the prophets hadith and from the Quran how do

[38:56]Shia scholars address the issue issue of Imam Oh what are its

[39:02]conditions how does someone become an imam and then we'll continue examining

[39:06]very very critical aspects of this remember this is part of our

[39:09]sort of Deen and we must all be familiar with these proofs

[39:14]and evidences yes we believe in the Imams but we need to

[39:16]know in at a very detailed level why is it that we

[39:20]believe in the Imams when we have what is their proof that

[39:21]God chose them what is the proof that they were the most

[39:24]knowledgeable they were infallible this is something we will examine in sha-la-la-la-la

[39:28]I gotta say you dinner muhammad ali al-taher me

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