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[0:09][Music] [Music] for Muhammad.

[0:43]Alhamdulillah.

[0:55][Music] Alhamdulillah.

[1:32][Music] Alhamdulillah.

[1:52]It's narrated from Imisam.

[1:57]The following narration Omar proposed for the daughter of Im Ali Alisum.

[2:07]Im Ali Ali replied, "But she is still a child." Omar went

[2:15]to Abbas, the uncle of Im Ali Alisam, and said to him,

[2:22]"Is there something wrong with me?

[2:24]Is there a problem with me?

[2:26]I proposed for the daughter of your nephew, but he denied me.

[2:34]By Allah, I will fill the well of Zam Zam.

[2:37]and I will destroy all that is within their honor.

[2:43]And I will bring two witnesses to testify that he has stolen.

[2:49]So I cut off his right hand.

[2:53]Im Ali Ali Abbas went to him and said to him, "Oh

[3:00]Ali, this is what he has said.

[3:01]Allow me to take up this matter." to which Imam Ali said

[3:07]to him, "Go ahead." And Abbas went and took up the matter.

[3:10]The first of our loud salawat in honor of Allah Muhammad Sallam.

[3:15][Music] Second, even louder in honor of Imm.

[3:30]The third with your loudest voices in honor of the Imam of

[3:34]our time, Imuham.

[3:41]Respected scholars, brothers and sisters, did daughter of Ali and marry Omar

[3:57]Katab.

[3:56]This without a doubt is a question of some difference of opinion

[4:02]of some controversy and at the same time is a question that

[4:06]until today is the subject of discussion between Shia and non-shia schools.

[4:12]Some of the greatest of the scholars of the Shia school have

[4:20]sought to examine this issue and others of the non-shia have also

[4:24]raised this question because the non-shia say that if Imam Ali had

[4:28]a problem with Omar why would he give his daughter to Omar?

[4:35]This is a valid question that if Omar is the one who

[4:38]was meant to have killed Zah then how could I im Ali

[4:46]give his daughter to who?

[4:50]Give his daughter away to the killer of his wife in the

[4:53]Shia school.

[4:54]The opinion is that Imm Ali Alisam's wife was between the wall

[5:01]and the door and when she was between the wall and the

[5:04]door.

[5:04]So what then happens?

[5:05]People ask the question that if she was martyed between the wall

[5:10]and the door so what then happens?

[5:12]How could he give his daughter away to Omar?

[5:15]In the Sunni world, this has been used as a proof that

[5:18]Omar and Imam Ali had no issues with with each other.

[5:23]Otherwise, would you give your daughter away to somebody who oppressed you

[5:28]or somebody who killed your wife?

[5:31]In the Shi school, there's a problem.

[5:33]The story of the marriage of Kulum with Omar is in the

[5:41]most famous Shi texts.

[5:42]Al Kafi of Sheh Keni for example being amongst these texts that

[5:50]Al Kafi of Sheh Keni includes evidence that Omar Kab married the

[5:55]daughter of Fat Zaham.

[5:58]For your average, generally speaking, this is very difficult for a person

[6:06]to stomach without a doubt because this person without a doubt would

[6:10]have to be what would have to turn around and say, "Well,

[6:12]it's in my books, not in Sunni books." At the end of

[6:17]the day, if it was only in Sunni books, then what happens?

[6:20]If it was only in Sunni literature, then a person automatically would

[6:24]say, "This is only in Sunni literature.

[6:27]It's not in Shia literature." But when it is within Shia literature,

[6:30]now you've got a conundrum you have to solve.

[6:34]And it's not just within Shia literature that there's a conundrum to

[6:40]solve.

[6:40]The hadiths of Omar marrying daughter of Im Ali is a hadith

[6:49]which are hadiths which are hadith which are it's not like you're

[6:54]seeing a hadith which let's say have within the chain of their

[7:01]narrators for example people who are not known or for example people

[7:04]who are liars no the hadiths include zor include Hisham bin Salim,

[7:13]include Muhammad bin Abi Omar.

[7:15]In some cases when chains of hadith have names like that, these

[7:21]are these are these are righteous individuals.

[7:26]So it's not like I'm getting something from somebody where there's a

[7:31]question mark about because he used to be or is a or

[7:32]for example is of the fat or for example is of the

[7:37]zor we said that zor were it not for zor the hadiths

[7:44]of imbakam would have perished and ham for example jawiki and people

[7:49]like Muhammad Omar these are reliable people they are the ones who

[7:54]sheh and his they are the ones who narrate a number of

[8:05]narrations that show that Imam Ali's daughter married Omar Katab when a

[8:10]person sees in their own books that there is a hadith that

[8:16]clearly states for example a question that was asked to the sixth

[8:19]IM when a lady her husband dies in her a widow Herd

[8:26]is how many months?

[8:26]4 months and 10 days.

[8:31]The widow herd 4 months and 10 days.

[8:34]Where does she go in this period?

[8:37]Does she remain in her house or is she free to go

[8:41]where she wants to?

[8:41]For example, at her father's house.

[8:44]Imam replies by saying, "No, the widow in her is free to

[8:50]go where she wants to go.

[8:52]She doesn't have to stay in her house because I im Ali

[8:54]when Omar died took Omulum back to his house.

[9:02]Im Ali over here clearly is saying that Omulum married Omar and

[9:08]so a question is raised that mah how could you give your

[9:13]daughter away to somebody who we believe was the reason for the

[9:17]killing of your wife?

[9:19]Then I imam is asked another question and these you can find

[9:23]within al kafi because in al kafi you have a big problem.

[9:29]What is it?

[9:31]You have the bab of the tas of the chapter of the

[9:35]marriage of a whole chapter in al kafi is on the marriage

[9:38]of tomar.

[9:41]And so in that chapter you have this tradition where I im

[9:46]asked the question about Omar marrying Fat Zah's daughter daughter of Im

[9:53]Ali and Im says that that was our honor that was taken

[10:04]from us.

[10:07]When Imam says it raises the question that what does it mean

[10:12]that our honor was taken is not a word I would normally

[10:18]use on me.

[10:17]Anyone who studies the Quran will know that FG is something that

[10:23]has to do with one's chastity.

[10:23]One's chastity when you talk about for example one's innocence, one's virginity

[10:29]and so on and so forth.

[10:30]One's chastity im says Imam doesn't say that I deny this marriage.

[10:39]He uses different wordings.

[10:44]He says that that was our honor that was taken from him.

[10:49]You all know the meaning of something forcibly usurped or something forcibly

[10:57]taken.

[10:59]Normally when someone asks you the question so and so is married

[11:03]into your family you don't reply by saying forcibly married into our

[11:08]family normally you reply by saying alhamdulillah nice person alhamdulillah very jolly

[11:14]guy alhamdulillah Imam doesn't say that Imam doesn't even deny that Omar

[11:20]marries Ali's daughter as a therefore I see in Sunni literature Ibar

[11:25]narrates this I Seeb and the and the both of them narrate.

[11:37]If you look at his he narrates in his narrates in his

[11:43]narrates and likewise for example in his discusses this and his gives

[11:56]an opinion gives an opinion.

[11:57]Others give an opinion because it's a conundrum.

[12:01]If someone says that Imam Ali was forced to give his daughter

[12:04]to Omar, then the Shia asks another question.

[12:08]Can I im Ali be overpowered by somebody?

[12:12]When a person talks of imm.

[12:23]But then I im Ali Alisam on this incident it seems like

[12:29]Im Ali Alisam is coerced.

[12:30]The non Shia says that's not my Imam Ali.

[12:35]Your Im Ali the non Shia says is weaker than my im

[12:42]Ali.

[12:42]My im Ali the non Shia says is brave whereas your Im

[12:48]Ali lets Omar marry his daughter.

[12:50]If there's a problem with Omar then what's the issue?

[12:53]Imam Ali let him marry his daughter.

[12:55]Would you let someone who hurt your wife marry your daughter?

[13:00]So for us the Shia when we look at these historical issues

[13:03]these issues of course are amongst the top three arguments against the

[13:09]Shia.

[13:10]By the way Omar's marriage to is normally in the top three

[13:14]against the Shia.

[13:16]Do you know why most of the Shia will not be able

[13:21]to even understand or even know where these hadiths are?

[13:23]Now if someone comes to you today and shakes you and someone

[13:28]says but I have nice heart nice that's not enough in at

[13:31]the end of the day if someone shows you a hadith from

[13:36]im which is it's not a hadith that is a random hadith

[13:39]these hadiths that I'm giving you are not hadiths which are open

[13:45]say this is weak or not rather it's a hadith in our

[13:47]book which is how do we solve this either we put our

[13:53]hands up and And we admit that Omar married Im Ali's daughter

[13:57]of who?

[13:59]Im Ali and Fat Zah.

[14:01]Either I admit this and if I admit this, can I admit

[14:07]it and remain?

[14:07]Because someone will say if I admit it, then I can't remain

[14:12]Shia.

[14:13]If Omar marries, then how is it that I'm able to remain

[14:18]Shia?

[14:18]Because then I'm giving in that Omar had no issues with who?

[14:24]That Omar had no issues whatsoever with Imam Ali and with Fat

[14:28]Zah and with the children of Imiris.

[14:33]Let's tonight examine this issue and try and break it down so

[14:42]that we understand the opinions of our on this area.

[14:44]He was once asked on this issue.

[14:47]He was asked did Omar marry Omulum?

[14:50]He said yes we have narrations that clearly mention this.

[14:53]Interesting that if a person wants to refer to a mar I

[14:59]always say at the end of any majus of mine ask your

[15:00]mar whatever I dissect just to make sure that you understand what

[15:07]your mar's opinion is on any issue because the person can easily

[15:10]turn around to the historian and say to the historian that I

[15:14]prefer the jurist's opinion on history but do ask why not ask

[15:20]what your mar's opinion is on this so that you get clarification

[15:22]of whatever I dissect so that you are able to be aware

[15:28]of whatever we are looking at.

[15:30]I'd like to dissect this topic in the following stages.

[15:33]My dear brothers and sisters, number one, how important is it submission

[15:38]to the Imam?

[15:41]How was it number two that Imam Ali was coerced into things

[15:46]before this marriage?

[15:49]And why didn't Imam Ali show bravery in those things for me

[15:53]to question him in these things?

[15:54]Number three, what are the opinions in the Sunni school about Omar

[15:59]and how they describe the proposal?

[16:04]How does Omar threaten Im Ali in the proposal?

[16:06]Can a person pick a hadith the part that they like and

[16:12]leave the rest out?

[16:12]Or is it that we must read the whole hadith?

[16:16]Number four, how does Omar want to check whether she is of

[16:22]age or not?

[16:21]And how do the such as Josie look at Omar's action of

[16:28]checking the age of Omul?

[16:30]Number five, what is Sharif?

[16:34]What is Mortal's opinion?

[16:35]Number six, what is Sheh Mued's opinion?

[16:38]Number seven, how does Noah we possibly give a different opinion?

[16:41]Number eight, can someone conclude that the marriage may have happened?

[16:46]And if they do, which marriages in the Quran can one see

[16:52]where a prophet offers his daughter to someone he doesn't like?

[16:55]And how does that show that still that doesn't mean that he

[16:58]supports the person?

[17:01]Number nine, were there other ladies of B who were forced to

[17:04]marry?

[17:05]And number 10, how difficult are these nights for the daughters of

[17:08]Amir Alm?

[17:10]Let me look at all of these and dissect the topic in

[17:15]complete depth.

[17:14]From the very outset, there's a central point we must always remember.

[17:21]Whatever an imam decides, we submit.

[17:22]It does not matter whether we understand the wisdom or not.

[17:25]An imam for us is chosen by Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.

[17:31]I the fallible human being cannot turn around and say that I

[17:36]myself have to know the hikma otherwise you explain to me why

[17:39]killed the young boy or explain to me why made a hole

[17:44]in the boat do I have to know the hikma for everything

[17:49]that happens in the Quran not necessarily sometimes I trust the judgment

[17:53]of the prophet of Allah subhanana wa ta'ala all of you I

[17:59]ask you a question that im Ali Ali has If now I

[18:04]im Ali makes a decision on something, would you turn around and

[18:07]say to him ma why or do you submit wholeheartedly?

[18:11]I submit.

[18:11]And that's why you found that when someone says why would I

[18:17]im Ali give his daughter in marriage and be coerced.

[18:20]Imam Ali is not strong enough to fight any coercion.

[18:24]I asked them a question.

[18:25]Why didn't I im Ali fight in for example is before Omar

[18:35]and Omar and Kulthum was at least a few years after happened.

[18:40]Imam Ali people ask ma why didn't you fight your h you

[18:46]are I im how could you let that happen mah is the

[18:52]one who knows what to do at any moment he is the

[18:54]one who decides when to fight when not to fight but mah

[18:57]said I was coerced in the fact that I only had four

[19:02]five supporters true if I had more now someone could say mah

[19:06]you lifted the gate of you are the master of kayak so

[19:09]go out and fight.

[19:12]Not everybody just recklessly goes out and fights.

[19:16]Imam famously, Abu Sufyan said to him, I'll help you defeat the

[19:19]first califf.

[19:21]And Imam blatantly said, I don't trust you.

[19:21]If it was all about power and fighting and killing and bloodshed,

[19:27]I asked the question to Imam at that time.

[19:31]Because when people say, "How could you say Imam Ali was coerced

[19:34]in giving his daughter to Omar?" The first line of reasoning is

[19:37]Imm was coerced into giving his leadership.

[19:41]Even secondly, Imam when Fat Zah was attacked where is imm you

[19:59]are the lifter of the gate of Ka.

[20:01]I ask all of you a question.

[20:04]Imm Ali when his wife was attacked did he defend his wife

[20:09]or not?

[20:08]Some when they ask the question of on they forget the question

[20:16]on Im Ali and Fat Zah.

[20:16]Im Ali attacked Omar or no?

[20:20]Some will say that yes he attacked him.

[20:23]He attacked him and killed him or no?

[20:25]No.

[20:26]Let's be real.

[20:29]Im Ali according to some sh literature has held Omar and held

[20:32]those around and said were it not for the will of sah

[20:38]I would kill all of you which means that Im Ali is

[20:45]governed by the will and the directions of Allah always understand this

[20:51]delicate point tells Im Ali if you have supporters go ahead if

[20:55]you don't have supporters then you must be patient patient because there

[21:00]will be against you.

[21:00]You must be patient.

[21:04]I ask you, is there a greater than taken or BB dying?

[21:08]Is there a greater than that or no?

[21:10]There's no volume like that.

[21:13]So what did Im Ali do?

[21:14]He sees Fat Zah killed in front of him.

[21:17]Im is like Allah with bas's parents.

[21:20]Amar's parents Yas and Sumaya were being tortured by Abu Jahal one

[21:26]day.

[21:27]What did rasool Allah do?

[21:28]What do he do?

[21:30]Allah who goes on a flying horse on majool Allah who has

[21:36]all the power in the world Allah has given him.

[21:40]What did Allah do?

[21:40]Sabur oh people sabur oh people of sabur oh family of yas

[21:47]ja awaits you.

[21:45]I ask Allah why don't you be a bit braver?

[21:50]Allah says I calculate every situation.

[21:53]There are some situations we can use excessive force.

[21:56]There are others we cannot because it will be reckless.

[22:01]Imam Hassan when people say to me why didn't he finish more

[22:04]we discussed that Imm Hassan looked at the situation and he said

[22:09]it's not something we should continue doing because it could be reckless

[22:14]for the Shia to continue.

[22:14]So on the second level when a person says why did IM

[22:18]Ali on this moment why didn't Im Ali do anything why did

[22:24]IM Ali do anything for Fat why did I im Ali not

[22:28]do anything for I imm whatever he does we submit mah speaks

[22:35]we submit mah remains silent we submit why because after Allah died

[22:41]listen most people who were around in Medina.

[22:44]Half of them and half of them are the hypocrites are those

[22:53]you know who they are.

[22:54]You know one by one the ones who converted on the day

[22:58]of the opening of Mecca mashallah and they all became Muslim.

[23:00]Half of these guys have all turned on Imam Ali Alisam.

[23:05]And the head of all of these who turned and the main

[23:08]instigator was Omar Kat.

[23:11]No one was like him in instigating to the extent that he

[23:14]blatantly tells Abu Bakr why are you discussing with Ali when in

[23:20]the famous narrations that I mentioned last year on Im Hussein TV

[23:23]in Shah Ramadan when Omar tells him I don't want him to

[23:27]be here and the same Omar who threatened to burn the house

[23:32]of Fatam that person has no limits in what they will do

[23:36]to get what they want that person you've got two options with

[23:39]someone who has no limits One option is to fight him head-to-head.

[23:44]The second option is to live with this person and make sure

[23:49]that Islam does not get demolished when this person is ready to

[23:51]be reckless.

[23:53]Even Omar himself used to sometimes come to Imam Ali Alisam.

[23:55]Like when he asked him about the expansion of Islam and he

[23:59]said I want to go to Jerusalem or I want to go

[24:02]to other areas.

[24:01]Imm said listen listen you stay here let others fight.

[24:05]But you get killed over there people will say the leader of

[24:07]the Muslims has died.

[24:10]So even Imam would sometimes remind him not to be reckless because

[24:15]Omar even in the Sunni world is known for his temper.

[24:20]He is known for his temper that you'll see some of them

[24:23]will say that Omar was angry when he converted to Islam.

[24:27]How did he convert?

[24:27]He went to killasool Allah because his sister Fatama had become Muslim.

[24:32]So he was so angry that his sister had become Muslim.

[24:36]He went to Allah's house sallallahu alaihi to kill him and then

[24:39]he came back outside the house conversion.

[24:42]It's like a you know the the car wash in a petrol

[24:49]station.

[24:46]You enter and you are not clean and then you leave and

[24:52]you are sparkling.

[24:55]Omar went through the conveyor belt of the house of the prophet

[24:57]peace be upon him and his family.

[24:59]He entered as a mushri and he left as a when he

[25:04]left he left having done what?

[25:06]He had the CV of having buried his daughter alive when he

[25:11]was in Jah.

[25:12]He had slapped his sister on his way to converting to Islam.

[25:15]He was always telling the prophet on certain occasions let's kill this

[25:20]person.

[25:21]Let's kill this reckless Omar Kab.

[25:22]If you look at Bkari and Muslim and Tafas of the Quran,

[25:29]there are many times his behavior is reckless.

[25:30]He wants to brandish the sword all the time and he is

[25:38]always ready.

[25:36]Even when Allah went for when Allah made the treaty Omar said

[25:42]I question this person's prophethood why are we making a treaty with

[25:48]the Quraysh?

[25:48]I remember our brother Mu.

[25:53]You all know Mu.

[25:54]Mu was discussing surah fat surah 48 of the Quran surah fat

[26:02]is about the opening of Mecca after the treaty mu on YouTube

[26:08]and the great thing about people like Mu and others it's easy

[26:12]listening easy listening means you don't displease anyone it's not controversial but

[26:17]you may say certain things only some will pick up he said

[26:21]Whenas done the treat with Omar was angry with Allah.

[26:27]So Allah revealed fat to calm Omar down and console him.

[26:32]Me and you if we were angry with rasool Allah.

[26:35]Do you think Jahannam would be boiling?

[26:37]You know that you know that boil when yourar is ready.

[26:41]Yep.

[26:39]That boil.

[26:40]Do you think jahannam would be ready?

[26:43]Jannam would be ready if me and you angered Allah.

[26:46]No, for Omar reveals a surah.

[26:48]That character is always angry, questions the prophet, reckless.

[26:52]When the prophet died, do you know what Omar said?

[26:55]Whoever says he's dead, I'll kill him.

[26:57]You know, whoever says he's dead, I'll kill.

[26:59]Where where are we?

[26:59]Where are we?

[27:01]Where are we in Saddam's prison?

[27:02]Where are we with?

[27:03]Where are we?

[27:05]What are you saying?

[27:06]Whoever says, "And who are you saying it to?" Well, that's the

[27:10]thing that baffles me.

[27:11]They're all going to Jenna, but they all threaten each other with

[27:15]death.

[27:15]What a Jenna we'll go to Allah.

[27:18]It's a beautiful Jenna.

[27:17]Hey, how are you?

[27:20]I fought you at Safi.

[27:21]How's the rivers of milk?

[27:22]You enjoying them?

[27:23]And how are you?

[27:24]Oh, you're my friend from J.

[27:26]It's nice to see you.

[27:27]I I shot your brother in the eye.

[27:29]What do you do?

[27:31]And if I say this, wah, when you say this, someone will

[27:34]say, say, what baba?

[27:36]I am using the literature of their books.

[27:39]The killer and the killed are in Jenna.

[27:44]The rude against the rude is in Jenna.

[27:47]Shan Shan questioned Allah.

[27:47]He was damned.

[27:50]Only the Sahab of Allah can question him and be in Jenna.

[27:54]Omar Kab was reckless in his behavior.

[27:58]And that's why that's why when the Sunni comes and tells me

[28:04]that Omar Kab married, daughter of Im Ali, therefore there is no

[28:12]problem.

[28:11]Let's look at the marriage.

[28:14]Do you agree?

[28:13]Let's look at the marriage.

[28:18]How does it happen?

[28:17]If you look within Sunni literature, I thought today I will be

[28:21]even more proactive than I am on Mimbar.

[28:25]So I thought today I'll do something different.

[28:27]If you look at Sunni literature, I thought today I'm going to

[28:30]pick a website online where questions are asked about Islamic issues.

[28:37]So someone if you put the slide up has asked this question.

[28:40]Everybody look at the screen.

[28:40]Somebody has asked the question.

[28:42]The website by the way is Islam Web.

[28:44]It is one of the top websites in the Sunni world.

[28:48]Look at the question.

[28:48]I have read that daughter of im Ali and the prophet's daughter

[28:53]Fatama, daughter of Ali and Fat was only five or six years

[28:58]old at the time of her marriage to Omar.

[29:01]How old at the time of her marriage to Omar?

[29:07]Question is, is this true?

[29:11]Let's see the answer.

[29:11]First part of the answer says it's permissible to propose to a

[29:18]young girl even a baby girl and her father has the right

[29:20]to unite her in wedlock and so on.

[29:22]Let's go to the next slide please.

[29:24]In the next slide what does it say?

[29:28]Now look here my dear brothers and sisters all of you could

[29:30]read that.

[29:31]It says and I'm just going to come across here.

[29:33]According to biographers like Abd and his sister and al-mar may with

[29:47]him proposed to the daughter of Ali but Ali replied she is

[29:59]still young.

[29:58]Then Omar proposed to her again whereupon Ali said, "I will send

[30:05]for her, and if she accepts, she's your wife." Ali, may God

[30:11]be pleased with him.

[30:12]Send her to Omar, who unveiled her leg.

[30:18]She says, "Stop this.

[30:21]If you are not the leader of the believers, I would beat

[30:24]you." Next slide.

[30:29]Omar accepted her as his wife and no narration stated her exact

[30:35]age.

[30:36]However, there's a discuity in the chain of narration and thus it

[30:41]is unauthentic as stated by sheh albani Allah knows best.

[30:47]Question is was she young?

[30:50]What Omar proposed for her?

[30:55]This question is in a Sunni website.

[30:59]You Google Islam web the marriage of to Omar Omar.

[31:05]According to Ibar Ib Abdar and others by the way who come

[31:10]forward what do they say that Omar was told by Imam Ali

[31:17]Alisam that my daughter is still too young.

[31:20]Omar himself went and checked.

[31:26]He unveiled and then he realized whatever the age was and then

[31:31]from there Omar decided what he decided and the hadith says however

[31:36]the answer says however alani doesn't authenticate this why because it puts

[31:42]Omar in severe trouble true because what does that mean Omar is

[31:45]doing Omar has gone to someone who is not of age to

[31:50]check if they are ready for marriage in the Shia literature Our

[31:54]narration is similar about Omar forcing himself on the daughter of Amir

[32:06]Alman.

[32:03]How everyone come with me.

[32:08]In Al Kafi of Sheh Kuli Im is asked this question about

[32:13]Omar's proposal to who?

[32:21]Omar's proposal to Omul.

[32:21]Imad replies two different ways but in one way I im actually

[32:26]gives a long answer.

[32:30]He says Omar came to Im Ali and proposed forum his daughter.

[32:34]At that moment I im Ali what did he do at that

[32:42]moment?

[32:43]Im Ali said she's still a child.

[32:45]Omar goes to Abbas, uncle of the holy prophet, peace be upon

[32:49]him and his family and Omar says, "Is there something wrong with

[32:53]me?" Everyone focus.

[32:55]Is there something wrong with me?

[32:57]Is there a problem with me?

[33:01]Why is it that I propose for your nephew's daughter?

[33:04]And he says, "No." And he denies me.

[33:08]Then Omar says something interesting.

[33:11]And listen to what I im says.

[33:13]Omar says, "By Allah, I will fill the well of zam and

[33:20]destroy all your honor and I will get everyone focus.

[33:27]I will get two witnesses who will testify that Ali has lied

[33:31]and we will cut off his hand." This is an alafi.

[33:36]May I ask you all a question?

[33:38]Some Shia on the one hand did not want to believe that

[33:45]Omar marries.

[33:44]On the other hand, if Omar is the Khalifa and Omar has

[33:49]the power of an army that has spread Islam, an army that

[33:53]has no limits in what it will submit to him on.

[33:57]Why wouldn't Omar have the audacity to say that to Imam Ali?

[34:03]Why wouldn't he?

[34:02]I want your daughter.

[34:05]Imam Ali is like, no, she's a child.

[34:07]I go to your uncle Abbas.

[34:08]You know Abbas was the uncle of Im Ali and Allah sallallahu

[34:10]alaihi wasall.

[34:11]I go to your uncle Abbas and I say Abbas there's something

[34:17]wrong with me as a calif.

[34:18]Is there a problem with me?

[34:18]Why is it when I want your nephew's daughter?

[34:22]You don't he doesn't give her to me.

[34:24]You know what I'll do?

[34:24]Listen to what he says.

[34:26]Number one, I'll fill the well of Zamzam.

[34:29]What does that mean?

[34:28]I will fill the well of Zam.

[34:32]You know the water of Zam for us is the holy water

[34:33]around the Kaa.

[34:36]Yep.

[34:36]That water that we have a relationship with with say the haj

[34:40]in the story of is who were the ones who were the

[34:43]custodians of zam bani hashim beni hasham's honor was what was that

[34:51]they were the ones who distributed the water of zam bani hashim

[34:57]abd mutalib number one abu number two then bbd mutalib number three

[35:02]they are the ones whose whose honor was that they distributed what?

[35:07]They distributed zam.

[35:09]They were the ones who were distributing water of zam.

[35:13]Omar says, "I'll fill up the well of zam zam and that

[35:20]would have been a disrespect to a b because that was what

[35:23]belonged to them but not just to them to the whole of

[35:28]the Muslim community." Number two, he said, "I'll destroy your honor.

[35:31]the things you take as the most honorable like what your gardens

[35:35]I'll destroy.

[35:36]You know when you go omrahccina I'm going to advise you something

[35:40]don't in Medina sometimes you go out to sometimes you might go

[35:47]out to try go out to the gardens of there are so

[35:51]many gardens of one by one each imam had plantations alone had

[35:58]seven plantations by the time she died seven plantations Omar said I'll

[36:02]destroy that which you find honorable if I don't have that Well,

[36:05]I'll destroy your gardens, the the horses, the camels, the houses, whatever

[36:11]you find honorable, I'll destroy.

[36:14]And number three, look at number three.

[36:17]He said, if Ali doesn't give me his daughter.

[36:21]And that's why when Allah says to im Ali, Ali, oh Ali,

[36:32]you are the oppressed.

[36:33]Whoever oppresses you oppresses me.

[36:35]Yesterday I said a list one of the major areas of against

[36:41]Imam Ali was a caliphate that was very clearly in their attitude

[36:46]with mah very clear our way or the highway.

[36:50]Why do you think Imam Ali has no position in government for

[36:55]25 years after Allah died?

[36:57]25 years.

[36:59]Is he treasurer?

[37:02]No.

[37:00]Finance?

[37:02]No.

[37:05]Secretariat?

[37:03]No army.

[37:05]Is there a greater warrior?

[37:08]No.

[37:09]Why is Imam Ali after the prophet sidelined?

[37:12]Why?

[37:13]Where's Imam Ali after the prophet?

[37:15]Imam Ali whenas sallallahu alaihi died was 33.

[37:18]33.

[37:19]You're at your pump.

[37:22]Where is he in the government of Abu Bakr and Omar and

[37:25]where?

[37:26]So when someone comes and says could it be a case that

[37:32]Imam Ali was forced to do something?

[37:34]Why not?

[37:36]A government existed where the heads of that government, Imm Ali was

[37:40]not involved in any position.

[37:40]Yes, we have narrations that sometimes they would ask him questions on

[37:46]certain things but never who was now in that government was governor

[37:59]of Sham 9 years after Allah died until Kbala 6 months or

[38:06]so what before Kbala Muawi died true and then Yazid came in

[38:09]Mu Awia was in charge of Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan for 40

[38:13]years.

[38:13]How many Alibab who gave his life to Islam had no position

[38:22]in Islam was governor of four countries in 40 years.

[38:25]That means a government was ready to sideline completely sideline until Omar

[38:32]says the following.

[38:35]And if you don't give me your daughter, I will say that

[38:39]I seen you steal something and I've got two witnesses and we

[38:42]will cut off your arm.

[38:45]Many people think the volume against Im Ali was what?

[38:51]They think Zah and then Benny.

[38:55]They forget that Kab famously was ready to have a false testimony

[38:59]against Imam Ali Alisam.

[39:01]Someone says that's your ABS buddy buddy.

[39:03]Listen to me.

[39:06]When you want to dissect Omar and Omulum, you don't just use

[39:09]your books.

[39:11]I use mine as well.

[39:12]Don't come and say that Omar married Omulum.

[39:15]You say Omar married Omulum.

[39:18]You use my books and your books.

[39:20]My books say Omar.

[39:24]Yes.

[39:25]Married Omulum.

[39:24]But they said that he had laid down conditions which he was

[39:30]going to do.

[39:29]You either accept the whole picture or reject the whole picture.

[39:35]If you want to accept I'm ready to sit here and say

[39:37]Omar someone says but said Omar how could you accept it?

[39:44]I didn't accept but it happened and I didn't accept the incident

[39:47]of the door but I trusted my im but one thing I

[39:51]saw with both those incidents is the whole um turned against my

[39:54]imam.

[39:54]So if the whole um could turn against my IM except a

[39:57]few.

[39:57]So I'm ready for those people to do anything it takes against

[40:03]my im.

[40:04]Some will not stomach it.

[40:06]No doubt.

[40:07]And that's why you find amongst when I im asked did Omar

[40:10]marry Im doesn't say of course not.

[40:15]Imm says what that was our honor which was taken.

[40:20]Some people of the of the rejected that Imam would say this.

[40:25]They said I im would not use the word in public.

[40:29]But the Quran Allah mentions about Miam and about others that their

[40:35]chastity was mentioned.

[40:37]Then there are others who gave a different interpretation to this.

[40:41]Why?

[40:41]I must admit on this at something.

[40:43]What is it?

[40:45]Some Shia when they look at history, they want to look at

[40:50]it what suits their conclusion about their Shiaism.

[40:52]I'm going to be real because many times people say when he

[40:59]discusses the Sunni literature he shows everything in the Sunni literature but

[41:04]doesn't show what's in the Shia literature.

[41:06]I'm sure you've seen last few nights we opened Shia literature and

[41:08]even on this one I could easily say that I don't want

[41:13]this to be the conclusion but Sharif Mortal Say Mortal one of

[41:17]our greatest theologians if you want you can write an email to

[41:20]say Mortal now died a thousand years ago so I don't think

[41:25]the email will reach him literally but metaphorically if someone says I

[41:30]don't want to believe that Omar married himself he says Imam Ali

[41:38]was coerced.

[41:37]Im Ali was coerced in a position where he gave the of

[41:43]her marriage to Abbas Abdalib.

[41:46]That was Sabah's position.

[41:49]Why?

[41:50]Because I've got so many hadiths from Imak on it that what

[41:54]do I do?

[41:55]I can't just say well we'll delete those hadiths.

[41:58]Sheh Mufi one of the opinions that's narrated from him is that

[42:05]sheh mued said no because Zubn Bakar is one of the narrators

[42:09]Zubarb Bakar is someone who was anti- IM Ali Alisam so according

[42:12]one opinion attributed she mu that he says no if Zubar al

[42:17]Bakar is there then it's a lie the problem with that with

[42:19]that is that the hadith that I'm quoting from alafi are so

[42:25]what do we do if we have aith on this marriage Then

[42:29]you have others who say let the Sunni say Omar married but

[42:35]the Sunni has to accept that Omar lifted a dress and saw

[42:38]her shins and she was young and Omar said this and that

[42:42]and if that's the Omar they accept then don't question me about

[42:45]the Ali that I have.

[42:48]Do you understand the point?

[42:49]You understand the point?

[42:52]So there is then that opinion that's there.

[42:55]Others gave another opinion.

[42:58]What was it?

[42:58]Others came forward and said that Omar first wanted to marry Omulum,

[43:02]daughter of Abu Bakr.

[43:04]Abu Bakr, the first Khalifa, he also had a daughter called Omulum.

[43:08]Rasool Allah had a daughter called Kulum.

[43:10]Imam Ali had a daughter called Omulum.

[43:13]Babari does mention that Omar first proposed to a daughter of Abu

[43:18]Bakr called.

[43:17]So one opinion that was given was that Kulum could be the

[43:23]daughter of Abu Bakr.

[43:24]But then but the hadith says she's the daughter of who?

[43:26]Imam Ali, here's the point.

[43:31]Imm Ali married Abu Bakr's ex-wife or no, work with me.

[43:36]I know we've given many numbers and dates and names in the

[43:41]last 10 nights.

[43:41]Work with me and then I will give you your break inshallah.

[43:45]Imam Ali married Abu Bakr's widow or no?

[43:50]What was her name?

[43:53]Asma.

[43:51]Who was her son?

[43:55]Muhammad.

[43:56]Who could have been the what was the daughter possibly?

[43:59]If I imi gave an umulum away then it could be his

[44:08]daughter who is raised in his house but is the actual daughter

[44:17]of Asma.

[44:15]Now I see a lot of people smiling and the smile I

[44:20]think is because someone wants that answer.

[44:24]While that's an answer that's postulated, I personally still do not have

[44:30]an issue personally concluding that the amount of when I imi says

[44:36]there is no one as I al that is not a small

[44:41]statement.

[44:42]Imam Ali was you all saw yesterday someone said that I am

[44:45]Mlum.

[44:46]Imam Ali said you are Mlum once.

[44:47]I am Mlum the number of hairs and the number of sand

[44:52]particles.

[44:53]So I have no issue.

[44:56]Someone says but said Omar Im Ali gives his daughter Imam Ali

[44:59]gives.

[45:00]You don't give your daughter to somebody who's forcing himself.

[45:04]Someone says has this ever happened?

[45:06]I ask you in the story of Nabil and Sodom and Gomorrah.

[45:11]Nabil, you know the story of the same gender.

[45:13]Nebula in the Quran, Nabil says to the people, those men who

[45:18]came to attack his house when they heard that there are good-looking

[45:21]men in the house.

[45:25]Yeah.

[45:23]Nebula said, "Take my daughters.

[45:28]They are better for you." Nabi Lord, if he gave his daughters

[45:30]to those men, does that mean he approves of those men?

[45:34]No.

[45:33]But is he forced in a situation where there are these men

[45:38]who are outside his house who are smashing the door down?

[45:42]He is a prophet of Allah.

[45:44]They're smashing the door down.

[45:45]They're saying we want whoever's in that house right now.

[45:49]Nebul, you could say to Nebul, you're a Nebi.

[45:53]You should fight them, kill them, punch them.

[45:55]Nebul say, take my daughters.

[45:56]They are better for you.

[45:57]When Nebul says, take my daughters, someone could say, why?

[46:03]because he was coerced in a position on the one hand and

[46:06]on the other hand as well was saying this is a better

[46:09]way of life than what you guys are doing at the moment.

[46:17]Likewise, say's daughter was forced to marry bin y.

[46:20]Someone looks at that and says well how could that be the

[46:24]case?

[46:25]Omar the son of Imam Ali Omar the son of Imam Ali

[46:33]forced his relative to marry Haj.

[46:36]Someone says if Omulum marries Omar how could someone hashi marry someone

[46:42]non-hashi?

[46:43]If she is hash how could she marry a non-hashi man?

[46:47]In was [Applause] alsin because ultimately on these issues my of is

[47:05]not affected.

[47:07]These are historical issues.

[47:07]But one thing that is clear were the recipients of the worst

[47:11]where people were willing to do anything to their daughters and to

[47:19]hurt them.

[47:17]Kbala is something small.

[47:21]I ask you all what happened in Kbala is small.

[47:23]What happened in Kbalah was only how many years?

[47:28]It was only let's say after Omar supposedly marries Omulum.

[47:35]Kabala was let's say around 45 years after this and Kbalah did

[47:39]they have a limit slapping the girls kicking them and all these

[47:42]people were saying what were they doing to the granddaughters of Allah

[47:50]one way one of them is whipping one honestly and one is

[47:54]shouting Aliyah and another's calling Hussein and another's calling Abbasa when I

[48:01]saw all of this you think I you think I think before

[48:06]that they couldn't have hurt the daughters of Ali when they killed

[48:10]the daughters of Hussein and they put heads of their beloved in

[48:15]front of them.

[48:15]You tell me who would put the head of someone beloved.

[48:20]Are there contradictions in the story?

[48:23]There aren't contradictions in there are contradictions in the story.

[48:28]How old was I've seen one say 6 7 9 12 13

[48:31]14.

[48:32]Are there contradictions in the mahar that Omar supposedly gives?

[48:35]I've seen different numbers of mahar.

[48:37]So the story is not as clear as it seems.

[48:40]You see one narrator he says different stories of mahar.

[48:42]Another says different ages.

[48:46]You even see some sun like Josie question Omar's behavior or other

[48:51]like Noah say that she is the daughter of the reality is

[48:54]even with all of these I do not need to justify what

[49:00]imam decides.

[49:02]Imam decides something, I submit.

[49:03]And on I ask the imam why he did it.

[49:07]No, whatever im decides I submit.

[49:09]Why would IM Hussein take his daughters to Kbala?

[49:17]Why?

[49:18]Why not leave them in in Medina?

[49:22]You know what's going to happen in Kufa and Sham or you

[49:27]don't?

[49:28]So why take them to Kbana?

[49:29]Someone who wants to turn around and say what is the justification

[49:33]know what to do in each situation they know why something should

[49:37]happen they know what is or how to even stop the of

[49:42]even worse situations whenasool Allah marries someone I do not question he

[49:46]knows what's best when he marries someone what the hikma is only

[49:49]Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala knows does that mean if Imam Ali gave

[49:56]his daughter to Omar it justifies Omar not at all angered fat

[50:00]And Omar took the rights that belonged to Allah of and Omar

[50:06]introduced bid after bid after bid after bida which he ended up

[50:09]calling good bida and and and and and I could list them

[50:16]all day as to why we dissociate from him and those like

[50:19]him.

[50:19]But for the daughters of Allah sallallahu alaihi wasall not one lived

[50:23]alive but there was a trial.

[50:27]True.

[50:28]Name me a daughter of Ah B who didn't live without a

[50:30]trial in her life.

[50:32]From those who were attacked to those who were orphans to those

[50:36]who were captives to those who were imprisoned.

[50:39]And arguably their biggest trial was on a night like this night

[50:41]20 of the holy month of Ramadan.

[50:43]Why is it a big trial?

[50:48]If you kill one of the mumin with a blow and he

[50:49]dies straight away then it's painful but that he dies straight away.

[50:56]but to see your father in agony and pain.

[51:00]Allah Akbar, night 20 of the holy month of Ramadan.

[51:02]I don't know how many of you here saw your father in

[51:06]his final moments.

[51:06]Some of you your father, you may have just heard news, dad

[51:11]has died, but some of you may have had to see your

[51:12]dad in anguish or your dad in pain when he died.

[51:16]How difficult is it when you see your dad loathing in pain,

[51:22]reeling in pain?

[51:22]Imagine the scene for the daughters of Sam.

[51:28]All of these daughters next to each other on a night like

[51:33]this next to their father.

[51:35]Sometimes they were next to him.

[51:36]Sometimes no.

[51:38]Someone says why sometimes no?

[51:41]Because sometimes would come into the house in Kufa.

[51:43]Tonight take your hearts to the land of Kufa.

[51:47]My dear brothers and sisters, especially those of you who have had

[51:52]with Allah through take your hearts towards those lands, towards those nights,

[51:59]towards the daughters of Sam.

[52:02]That night the companions of Imam were there.

[52:06]That night his sons, his daughters and there was a doctor there.

[52:09]You know Ib Muljam had bought poison for a,000 DNR.

[52:14]The poison that he bought, he covered his sword with it so

[52:19]that it wasn't just a strike on the head, but poison that

[52:22]goes deep into the best brain of the religion of Islam.

[52:28]Was there a brain like Ali Talib's brain?

[52:28]But the poison now is all over it.

[52:34]Yes.

[52:32]The doctor turned around to Im Hassan.

[52:35]He said to him, "Oh, Hassan," he said, "Yes." He said, "This

[52:42]is his last night.

[52:41]He won't make it past tonight.

[52:44]The tears began to flow from the eyes of Im Hassan Alis.

[52:50]Imam was disconulate.

[52:52]You see when your mom dies your dad is everything.

[52:55]Imagine your dad becomes father and mother to you.

[52:59]That means that when I imam Hassan when his mom died Imam

[53:02]Hassan was eight, Imam Hussein was seven, Zab was five, Hanum Kulum

[53:09]was one.

[53:10]So for them their dad was everything.

[53:13]They never grew up with their mom more than their young age.

[53:16]So to see the dad in pain when they were younger they

[53:22]were in pain and he looked after them.

[53:24]Now they see their father in pain and now they're trying to

[53:28]look after him.

[53:30]Amongst those who was the most heartbroken according to the hadiths was

[53:35]Im Hussein Abdah.

[53:40]Imam Hussein on that day, how old was he?

[53:44]He was about 37 years of age.

[53:48]He came near his father's body.

[53:49]He put his head near his father.

[53:52]He couldn't stop crying.

[53:53]Im Hussein was absolutely heartbroken.

[53:56]His dad was everything to him.

[53:59]And then his dad did not hear anything from him.

[54:04]He suddenly heard Hussein silent and he wondered what's wrong.

[54:08]You know what I Ali did?

[54:11]placed his hand on the heart of Abah Abdullah.

[54:12]It's as if Imam nearly died because of the pain of losing

[54:19]his father.

[54:18]Imm said to him, Abah Abdullah, you have to remain strong.

[54:23]Yes, you've got sisters to look after Allah.

[54:28]You have sisters to look after.

[54:30]Yes, look at that Zab over there.

[54:35]Look after Zab.

[54:34]All of you, how much do you love Zanab?

[54:38]How much do you miss Sham?

[54:39]Uh he look after Z look after Kulthum.

[54:43]And to Im Hassan he said to him as well.

[54:47]And when they saw him at that moment when he saw the

[54:52]boys crying he told them to remain calm and he told them

[54:55]to remain strong.

[54:58]The were there all these were there.

[55:05]They were absolutely heartbroken.

[55:07]When they were heartbroken, the Imam looked at Imm Hassan.

[55:12]He said to him, "Tell them they could leave and leave at

[55:15]this moment.

[55:17]Don't let them trouble themselves by staying here next to me." One

[55:22]by one, the companions of the Imam left.

[55:24]When they left one by one, they left towards their homes.

[55:31]Imm Hassan Alisam came back towards his father.

[55:35]His father was talking to him.

[55:37]And then they both heard someone crying outside.

[55:39]Imm said, "Did you tell them to leave?" He said to him,

[55:44]"Yes." He said, "Then why do I hear someone crying?

[55:48]Go and check who it is." When he went out, he saw

[55:50]Albat sitting by the door.

[55:54]He said to him, "Alas, what's wrong?

[55:56]Didn't we tell you you could go home?" He said, "Forgive me.

[56:00]I find it hard to leave the house." Im Hass said come

[56:06]near me.

[56:08]He took him back to Im Ali.

[56:09]He sat by him.

[56:12]Im looked at Alb.

[56:12]He said, Alas, do not worry.

[56:18]Jenna awaits me.

[56:17]Alb looked at the im and he said, "Mola, I know that

[56:24]Jenna awaits you, but that's not what makes me cry." He said

[56:27]to him, "What is it that makes you cry?" He said to

[56:31]him, "How do I live in a world without How do I

[56:38]wake up in the morning knowing my mirror is no longer with

[56:45]me?

[56:42]It pains me that I think there'll be a morning without seeing

[56:49]your face or an evening where I don't pray behind you." The

[56:55]Imam calmed him down.

[56:57]Don't worry.

[56:59]You'll be with you.

[57:00]You'll be with me on the day of judgment.

[57:03]We ask Allah that we're with the Imam on the day of

[57:08]judgment.

[57:09]All of a sudden, the Imam When he saw his sons crying,

[57:11]he told them to come down.

[57:17]This is the night of wed of the When he saw his

[57:18]sons crying, he said to them, "Come down." But when he saw

[57:27]Zab cry, he broke down.

[57:27]Allahbar.

[57:28]When he saw Zab cry, he broke down.

[57:33]Why?

[57:34]Because it's as if he sees a day when Zab's cheeks are

[57:39]slapped.

[57:40]It's as if he sees a day when Zanab runs from one

[57:46]tent to another.

[57:46]When the horse is a kick her brother.

[57:49]When the horses attack her children and Zab calls [Applause] out, the

[58:00]ladies were trying to sleep.

[58:02]One by one, Zanab would put them to sleep, but Zanab would

[58:08]be awake.

[58:07]Yesterday, Abbas and Hussein were here, now they're not here.

[58:15]Yesterday, Agar was in my lamb.

[58:18]Yesterday Akabar was next to me and next to him and Habib

[58:25]and Muslim and Abis were protecting me.

[58:27]She tried to sleep then in the middle of her sleep she

[58:29]sees a dream.

[58:31]What was in that dream?

[58:31]It's as if a man is coming towards her.

[58:34]That man was getting closer to her.

[58:38]She said to him, "Oh man, don't harm us.

[58:41]We are the daughters of Allah.

[58:43]We are the daughters of Ali.

[58:49]The man looked at her and said, "Zab, it's your father talking

[58:53]to you.

[58:55]Don't you recognize your father next to you?" It's as if Zanab

[59:01]replied, "Father, where were you when Shimmer came near his head?

[59:14]Raise your hands with these tears.

[59:17]My dear brothers and sisters, we pray to Allah subhana wa ta'ala

[59:20]to raise us with imm for this jama ya Allah bless them

[59:29]and allow them to continue in the service of our youth.

[59:36]Say Allah keep them steadfast and strong and patient and forbearant to

[59:41]defend the will of we pray to Allah subhana ta for all

[59:45]of your and my may Allah bless each and every one of

[59:51]you and we remember them with a fat but before it the

[59:56]loudest of your salawat Hussein.

[60:16]Yeah.

[60:18]Hussein.

[60:19]Yeah.

[60:20]Hussein.

[60:19]Hussein.

[60:21]Yeah.

[60:23]Hussein.

[60:21]Yeah.

[60:22]Hussein.

[60:24]Hussein.

[60:25]Yeah.

[60:26]Hussein.

[60:24]Hussein.

[60:26]Yeah.

[60:27]Hussein.

[60:28]Hussein.

[60:30]Yeah.

[60:27]Hussein.

[60:29]Hussein.

[60:31]Yah.

[60:32]Hussein.

[60:34]Hussein.

[60:31]Yah.

[60:32]Hussein.

[60:33]Hussein.

[60:34]Yah.

[60:35]Hussein.

[60:39]Yahus Yahus.

[60:49]Yahus.

[60:51]Yah.

[60:53]Yahus.

[60:55]Yah.

[60:57]Yah.

[61:00]Yah.

[61:00]Yi.

[61:03]Yi.

[61:03]Y.

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