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[0:00]Allah [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] hey hey hey [Music] he oh [Music]
[1:30]in the name of God the most beneficent the most merciful all
[1:33]praise is due to the Lord master of all the worlds and
[1:40]peace and blessings be on All His prophets and especially the final
[1:42]Prophet The Prophet Muhammad s my respected brothers and sisters congratulations to
[1:49]each and every one of you on the holy month of Ramadan
[1:53]may Allah bless each and every one of you I bid you
[1:56]and just when we thought we had no content left NBC decides
[2:02]to release a series on the life of no other than muawiya
[2:06]now when this news came out I think it came out as
[2:10]a shock to many people it wasn't a shock really to myself
[2:12]because on the first level NBC has had a history of producing
[2:19]a series or documentaries on different figures in the Islamic world but
[2:23]I think some people are quite shocked that they went to a
[2:27]documentary or a series on the life of muawiya for the month
[2:31]because mua is often a disputed figure in Islamic history in the
[2:35]past they may have done a series on the life of for
[2:38]example but when you're doing one on the life of mua that
[2:44]brings about a certain sense of shock maybe confusion maybe some controversy
[2:49]and I've seen people who've gone up in arms and they're quite
[2:53]angry with this but I personally don't see a single issue with
[2:59]there being a serious on muawiya in the holy month of Ramadan
[3:01]or in sha or in or in or in mam or any
[3:07]time of the year why because I don't believe that one school
[3:13]in Islam should have a monopoly on dictating to everybody else what
[3:17]should be presented from Islamic history and what shouldn't if someone wants
[3:21]to do a documentary on any figure in Islamic history they have
[3:25]every right to when they've released this series on muawiya first first
[3:31]and foremost I don't want to be someone who judges the series
[3:34]without having watched it cuz we sometimes fall into that trap we
[3:37]hear for example AA there is taking place around the world that
[3:43]how could someone talk about muawiya in a positive way we haven't
[3:47]even watched one episode yet how do we know how the director
[3:53]May reach a conclusion on the life of mua and if he
[3:55]does reach a conclusion which is positive that's completely up to him
[3:58]and if he reaches a conclusion which is negative that's completely up
[4:05]to him there has to be an understanding this holy month of
[4:08]Ramadan when we dissect the literature and this wonderful new set behind
[4:11]me when we dissect the literature with all these books behind me
[4:14]there has to be an understanding that your narrative in relation to
[4:19]a figure like muaah may not be the same narrative that everybody
[4:23]else concludes with I may have a narrative about early Islamic history
[4:29]your narrative may be different does everybody in this world have to
[4:36]agree with my narrative not really so if there's a director out
[4:39]there who has decided to make a documentary or a series on
[4:43]muawiya I don't blame him my PhD was on muaw my PhD
[4:50]was not on IM aliam nor on IM nor on IM Hussein
[4:54]one of the rudest Awakenings that I ever had in my life
[4:57]was when I did my PhD on muaah because I understood muawiya
[5:02]from a number of different lenses which I don't think many do
[5:06]muaah ruled much of the Islamic State for 40 years or so
[5:14]mua fought the likes of IM Ali and Imam muaah had Palestine
[5:19]Lebanon Jordan and Syria under his command and some ways he was
[5:23]making inroads into Medina into kufa muaah did Ure that Islam was
[5:27]spread whether you believe that that's the Islam you agree with whether
[5:32]you agree with expansionism or not whether expansionism is the worldview of
[5:37]my school or not mua managed to reach from Africa to Cyprus
[5:40]therefore when I'm looking at muaah and I'm seeing this series I
[5:46]see people straight away saying why are they doing a series on
[5:49]mua and people are cursing mua and attacking mua and doing this
[5:51]on mua and that on muaah my dear brothers and sisters the
[5:56]reality is that NBC has every right and the director and producer
[5:59]and editor have every right to make a series on mua like
[6:05]I might have a right to make a series on imass I
[6:08]might have a right to make a series on IM you find
[6:12]that in Iran for example there's been a series that's been done
[6:14]on IM or on M or on just because you've reached a
[6:21]conclusion about mua doesn't mean that every other Muslim has to agree
[6:26]with you and likewise if I as a sh reach a conclusion
[6:30]about muaah every other Muslim shouldn't be offended if I'm not going
[6:38]to be offended when another person writes or lectures or Praises such
[6:42]figures then they shouldn't be offended when I have my narrative and
[6:46]my reading as well the problem is sometimes that when you want
[6:50]to depict Islamic history people want to depict Islamic history with only
[6:56]their version and the moment somebody else produces another version of Islamic
[6:58]history then automatically you'll see a slanging match take place you have
[7:05]a version about muawiya I may not accept it but I'll tolerate
[7:09]it society today especially on Western Shores is a society of free
[7:13]speech even now I will add that there are parts of the
[7:17]Middle East where there might be more free speech than there had
[7:19]been 10 15 20 years ago not every country in the Middle
[7:22]East has the same level of Free Speech but there might be
[7:27]more tolerance to opinion in contrast to what it might have been
[7:29]10 15 20 years years ago each country differs therefore when I
[7:34]saw the trailer for the series on muawiya I did realize that
[7:38]there's definitely anay movement that's on the rise there's definitely a a
[7:43]praise of benay and mua that's on the rise I look for
[7:49]example now in Syria Damascus there's this glorification of masi and how
[7:53]people are so proud to post videos of them praying at M
[7:57]I don't have a single issue with that that person for him
[7:59]he may have reached a conclusion that that's part of their Golden
[8:04]Age I'm now even seen videos online where there is a a
[8:07]major aim to defend muawiya and the cause of muawiya if you
[8:12]play please clip number one you'll see this particular video where Faris
[8:18]hamadi makes clear what his opinion is about muaah in reply to
[8:22]a question that's been posed to him only recently please play clip
[8:28]number one what's your thought on muawiya you know what La Means
[8:34]not Los Angeles means may Allah curse him I think Allah will
[8:40]curse the people who curse muaah because mua is a companion mua
[8:44]is a companion and the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam did Dua for
[8:49]him and he as the scholars said muawiya is the Gateway of
[8:55]the Companions and anybody who Slanders and thinks ill of muawiya any
[8:58]of the sahabah and muaah then he has a sickness and a
[9:04]disease and a poison in his heart and in his head so
[9:05]uh refrain from this we don't curse anyone yeah we curse only
[9:12]the the bad people but cursing the companions guide you or may
[9:18]Allah punish you you know your your opponent will be mu not
[9:21]only mu and the prophet sallallah alai wasallam because he loved mu
[9:25]and he did Dua for mua may Allah be pleased with him
[9:27]you see I don't have an issue got my points in which
[9:32]I can reply but faradi that's his worldview he now suddenly became
[9:35]a representative of and from tomorrow I'm going to ask the question
[9:38]what is Sunni Islam what are the roots of Sunni Islam Sunni
[9:43]Islam is it monolithic or are there so many different strands of
[9:45]it that it's been divided and subdivided and subdivided and subdivided and
[9:49]arguably one of the greatest PR games that's ever been played is
[9:52]how Sunni Islam has been portrayed as a monolithic entity when in
[9:55]reality the subdivisions of Theology and law are absolutely all over the
[10:03]place when faradi talks and says this is Mu this is he's
[10:06]offering his opinion why not let him offer his opinion but he
[10:09]cannot force his opinion on me and that's where we come with
[10:16]this month of Ramadan the aim for us is to be able
[10:19]to elaborate that this is my reading that's your reading if you
[10:22]believe you want to be raised with mua on the day of
[10:24]judgment you're more than welcome to have that what's wrong if you
[10:28]are to be raised with Abu Bakr andar and why not you
[10:30]be raised with them I don't want to be raised with them
[10:34]because I have a reading and you have a reading you have
[10:36]literature and I have literat I have no interest in being raised
[10:40]with any of them I don't want to even be near any
[10:44]of these personalities but in the same way you have your proofs
[10:47]for why you want to be with the gateway to the prophet
[10:51]muaah likewise I have my proofs why I want to stay far
[10:53]away from him the point is that when a film is made
[10:59]about muaah and everyone's up in arms about that film sometimes I
[11:02]don't think that the non is the issue I think the sh
[11:07]is the issue why because the sh has missed a particular point
[11:10]over here let a film be produced about muaah and you also
[11:14]produce a film about oh you did yes you did but you
[11:22]had a major problem with your own film about one of the
[11:28]issues that I have is that when the of Heaven film was
[11:31]produced it was the Shia who jumped straight away and said that
[11:36]you could not have such things on the television the non also
[11:40]jumped and said you cannot have your narrative but you can have
[11:46]your narrative on mua and you can have your narrative on Omar
[11:49]there's no issue there but if I want to have a narrative
[11:53]on fatat Z's life why the protests outside Cinemas everywhere you have
[11:57]your narrative I have mine my conclusion is that she died as
[12:01]a matter my conclusion is that her house was attacked that's my
[12:03]narrative so why is there a problem with my film and you
[12:09]can have your film why is it that when anyone offers a
[12:14]reading that differs with what's so-called the mainstream although tonight's episode I'm
[12:17]going to show you that even when you're looking at Sunni Islam
[12:21]not everybody agrees with Faris Al hamadi at all and I'm going
[12:25]to show you certain members of Sunni Islam who completely disagree on
[12:28]muawiya and in some cases can't stand muawiya but why is it
[12:34]that it's okay to have your narrative about muaah and about the
[12:37]life of om but the moment I have a narrative about F
[12:41]Z's life that's controversial why can't everybody have their narrative and their
[12:47]reading of Islamic history and we can agree to disagree the problem
[12:50]that came with the lady of heaven was that you said the
[12:52]sahabah faces were being depicted but in this mua film the sahab's
[12:58]faces are depicted so why is it there's no protest why no
[13:01]demonstrations what's the issue you said that the film Lady Of Heaven
[13:05]Was sectarian a film on muawiya is borderline sectarian I don't think
[13:14]muawiya necessarily represents the most united front of Islamic history I know
[13:18]in patching him up you have to try and show that at
[13:20]the end he wanted Unity but at the cost of uh just
[13:24]a few thousand dead people in a number of Wars the issue
[13:29]therefore when we examine Islamic history is that we need to understand
[13:35]each other's narrative we cannot believe that our narrative is the only
[13:41]narrative you have a narrative about mua and say he's the great
[13:46]gateway to the prophet peace be upon his family I have a
[13:48]narrative about the killer of and I believe that they are far
[13:53]away from the prophet and his family that's your narrative and I
[13:56]have mine if you make a film don't jump about that film
[13:59]let them have their film let them have their documentary what's the
[14:05]issue let them have their narrative but don't be so apologetic about
[14:10]your narrative there's no need to be apologetic about your narrative we
[14:14]live in a world where films are produced we live in a
[14:17]world where documentaries are there where series are there where narratives are
[14:21]being portrayed and instilled when in the holy month of Ramadan and
[14:24]this brings me to a point when we have these discussions of
[14:28]the holy month of Ramadan some people will say the month of
[14:30]Ramadan is the month of spirituality tell the members of NBC that
[14:33]it's a month of spirituality why have you put muawiya they'll turn
[14:37]around and say what's wrong gaining knowledge about Islamic history spirituality gaining
[14:40]knowledge about a Calif of the calips of Islam is spirituality they'll
[14:44]turn around and say what's wrong we are the ones who are
[14:48]overly apologetic no you know what this is a month that we
[14:50]talk about prayers talk about prayers it's a month we talk about
[14:54]fasting talk about fasting there's no issue there whatsoever why not it's
[14:57]a month that we should talk about Dua why not talk about
[14:59]Dua in this holy month it's a month that we should talk
[15:02]about how we get get closer to Allah subhana wa taala why
[15:06]not we want to get closer to Allah subhana wa tala in
[15:08]this holy month wonderful but one of the ways in which we
[15:12]get closer to Allah subhana wa ta'ala in this holy month is
[15:14]what is that we learn about our history and we study our
[15:20]literature and we understand our teachings and we understand the base of
[15:24]everything that we have within our lives therefore for us in this
[15:27]holy month of Ramadan when I go through each discussion my aim
[15:32]is to Simply put forward the sh narrative some people used to
[15:35]ask me the question the talks that you give in the holy
[15:38]month of Ramadan on this issue are they for non who said
[15:40]they for non they're for my Shia because if my Shia today
[15:45]were asked the followers of were asked how would you look at
[15:48]muaw is mua looked at in one way only in shiaism is
[15:53]mua looked at only in one way in the Sunni World I'll
[15:55]turn around and say no on the contrary in the Sunni World
[16:00]there are people who have far's opinion that mu is the one
[16:03]who wrote the MU is the of the M the uncle of
[16:12]the Believers muaah is a gateway to the holy prophet peace be
[16:14]upon him and his family but then there are others who came
[16:16]forward and said don't say that that's what we all believe there
[16:22]are many of us who may generalize about the non opinion on
[16:25]muaah but the reality is when a person looks at the non
[16:29]opinion on someone like mua there are different opinions that are posited
[16:36]in the last 20 25 years alone there have been Scholars who
[16:40]are not Shia who have given negative opinions on muaah and the
[16:44]character of muawiya if you can please play clip number two you'll
[16:51]see one of the most damning attacks on muawiya that you will
[16:54]ever see online please play clip number two for [Music] for for
[18:29]for Dr Adnan ibraim with one of the most damning attacks on
[19:31]mua you'll ever see Dr Ibrahim is not sh is not sh
[19:37]but was willing to reexamine the Sunni reading on muawiya or I
[19:42]should say was willing to reply to the current Sunni trend on
[19:46]muaah I met someone recently in omra we were in omra in
[19:52]Medina and He was discussing with me he was Sunni He was
[19:54]discussing with me he said I don't like the way Sunni thought
[20:00]today is praising muaah this is not our Direction Dr Adan ibraim
[20:04]here discusses mua by blatantly saying that IM Hussein in Sunni sources
[20:10]says to muaah I have no excuse in the eyes of God
[20:17]not to do Jihad against you except that you've done a treaty
[20:21]with my brother this is before just before muaah died he said
[20:27]I have no excuse in the eyes of Allah not to do
[20:29]Jihad against you for me as a sh when a member of
[20:34]the Holy household the grandson of the holy prophet Master of the
[20:38]Youth of paradise when you ask me as a sh why is
[20:42]it that I despise mua this is my narrative IM Hussein says
[20:48]I have no excuse in the eyes of Allah as to why
[20:49]I should not do Jihad against who against you Maran says at
[20:57]that moment that Al Hussein is the the cause of FNA mua
[21:00]replies to IM Hussein Alam you try and plot against me I'll
[21:05]plot against you now you tell me when a person blatantly says
[21:09]to the grandson of Al quite ironically that that same grandson who
[21:13]was butchered by who no other than masallah mua's son's Army inala
[21:19]when a person says to IM Hussein would you would you say
[21:22]to IM Hussein Alam as a Muslim would you ever say to
[21:26]him you plot against me Hussein I'll plot against you ad IIM
[21:31]says you can even go to Pro sources go toab go Tob
[21:37]go and study even the pro sources you will reach the conclusion
[21:42]that mu is a it's not if it was a sh saying
[21:47]this they will say you sh sectarian adim is not sh Adan
[21:50]ibim says you will reach the conclusion that mua is a therefore
[21:56]when I look at the different readings that are presented even within
[22:01]Sunni Islam I have to be careful that I don't paint Sunni
[22:05]Islam with the same brush last year I said Abu Talib some
[22:08]Sunni believe he is in Hell others say no the parents of
[22:12]the Prophet peace be upon his family some Sunni say they are
[22:14]in hell and others say no likewise with muaah Ahmed kui in
[22:21]this next clip one of the renowned Iraqi Scholars ahed discusses how
[22:28]we have which is us the rejectors of Abu Bak Omar and
[22:32]and because of our reading we do not have the reference that
[22:37]others do for them and then he says but there is also
[22:38]a group and they are known as the those who have hate
[22:43]for and they are those who praise mua please play clip number
[22:57]three for [Applause] for for for for for for don't mess with
[26:33]the on the wrong day especially if he's not in the right
[26:39]mood Ahmed kui he was on one Ahmed kui was on one
[26:45]in that clip he was like listen make up your mind don't
[26:48]say I'm with Ali and I'm with muaah and then he said
[26:54]oh Allah raise me with Ali Ahmed kui who said that I
[27:01]am from the area of the in who he doesn't call them
[27:06]he says he said these are the proponents and the supporters of
[27:09]muaah he goes muaah is the m of Islam mua is the
[27:17]m of Islam he says you cannot say I am with Ali
[27:23]and with mua there's a battle IM Ali one side mua another
[27:26]and if you listen to the mental gymnastics they both liked each
[27:32]other but FNA that's number one the Yemen Jew always turns up
[27:35]that's number two number three mu was wrong but it's his so
[27:42]you know get wrong Ali go right number three number even though
[27:45]in their own literature you're not Mentor rized against the ruler of
[27:49]the time that's the rule of the time don't we always hear
[27:51]that that is the ruler of the time you're not ment toiz
[27:55]against the ruler of the time look with me over here my
[27:57]dear brother sisters come with me over here please if we go
[28:02]to this particular work the foundation of the Sunnah author IM Ahmed
[28:08]H the famous Imam of the hell school if you come with
[28:14]me over here foundation of the sunah by the revered scholar teacher
[28:17]the Revival of the Sunnah the subj of Innovations Imam Ahmed binel
[28:23]died 2041 after hij where do I have do I have the
[28:26]publishing over here because I just want to get back into the
[28:30]right mood of mentioning everything so that everybody says look over here
[28:33]please zoom in as much as you can it's really small writing
[28:35]over here but let's go over here Ingram content group UK limited
[28:42]pitfield Milton Kings mk11 3 LW UK and that's all the numbers
[28:44]that you require I think my dear brothers and sisters IM ahed
[28:49]is telling us what's the foundations of if I want to know
[28:53]what are their foundations within this text you will find my dear
[28:56]brothers and sisters some interesting things are mentioned but of them which
[29:01]are mentioned which I think everybody should try and pay some attention
[29:04]to my dear brother sisters is this discussion over here and what
[29:11]does the discussion over here tell us discussion over here discusses the
[29:17]fact that on the first level you have a ruler or an
[29:20]Imam of your time and that ruler or that Imam of your
[29:26]time is somebody who is meant to be respected you're not meant
[29:28]to fight that ruler or that Imam of your time look over
[29:33]here on page 28 to 29 come down with me my dear
[29:37]brother sisters page 2829 you see over here number 47 and hearing
[29:45]and obeying the leaders and the whether righteous or sinful leaders righteous
[29:49]or sinful you have to obey him from amongst those who come
[29:52]into power with the and with respect to whom the people have
[29:58]agreed and United themselves and and are pleased with number 53 let's
[30:03]go across over here and whoever revolts against the leader from amongst
[30:07]the leaders of the Muslims after the people had agreed upon him
[30:12]and United themselves behind him after they had affirmed Thea in for
[30:16]him in which in whatever way thisa may have been by their
[30:19]pleasure and acceptance or by his force and domination over them then
[30:28]this revolter has disobeyed the Muslims and has contradicted the narrations of
[30:31]the messenger of Allah sallah alai and if the one who revolted
[30:37]against the ruler AKA mua revolting against IM Ali or IM revolted
[30:45]against the ruler died he would have died the death of ignorance
[30:51]if a person Revol revolts against the ruler of their time that
[30:57]person dies the death of ignorance when Ahmed KU and Dr Adan
[31:07]ibim when both of them are saying mua mua mua Troublemaker don't
[31:09]say you are sh are the ones who slander why don't you
[31:12]correct your own maab first your M has a reading and I
[31:17]have a reading someone might ask the question when you say you
[31:20]have your reading on mua how do I present my reading on
[31:25]muaah my reading on mua on the first level as I mentioned
[31:28]is that mu was somebody who fought the openly fought the companions
[31:40]of Al how many times you hear Shia being told you guys
[31:43]slander the companions you guys don't respect the comp so what raising
[31:45]an army to fight Ali andar and others of the sahab knowing
[31:51]that the holy prophet peace be upon him his family had spoken
[31:55]gloriously about these sahab let's look for example join me over here
[32:00]please my dear brothers and sisters come with me over herei as
[32:06]you could all see let's zoom in the translation of the meanings
[32:12]of sahkari Arabic English volume four Hadith number 2,338 to 3,848 translated
[32:21]by Dr Muhammad M Khan where are we let's come over here
[32:27]Salam Publishers and Distributors PO Box 22743 Riyad 11416 Kingdom of Saudi
[32:35]Arabia printed in July 1997 printing supervised by Abdul Malik muam 1997
[32:45]King fad National Library everybody come with me over here to 2,82
[32:52]if I'm not mistaken and we will see something very interesting what
[32:58]does it say myar dear brothers and sisters over here what does
[33:01]it say come with me over here what does it say come
[33:07]and see this it says there is this particular chapter as you
[33:11]could see chapter to remove the dust which falls on one's head
[33:16]while striving in Allah's cause this is a Hadith about the famous
[33:20]companion Amar look what the Hadith says the Hadith is narrated from
[33:27]a particular chain as we could see over here from the likes
[33:29]of amongst others Ali abdah Abbas told him and Ali the son
[33:42]of Abdullah to go to Abu and listen to some of his
[33:47]narrations so they both went and saw Abu and his brother irrigating
[33:50]a garden belonging to them when he saw them he came up
[33:54]to them and sat down with his legs drawn up and wrapped
[33:56]up in His Garment and said during the construction of the mosque
[34:02]of the Prophet peace be upon him and his family we carried
[34:05]the Adobe of the mosque one brick at a time while used
[34:10]to carry two at a time everybody's carrying one brick at a
[34:15]timear binas is carrying two at a time the prophet passed byar
[34:22]Bas and removed the dust of his head and said may Allah
[34:25]be merciful to Amar an aggressive group will kill him Amar will
[34:34]be inviting them his murderers to obey Allah and they will invite
[34:40]him to the Hellfire look at the Arabic over here what does
[34:45]the Arabic say it comes over here [Music] Amar invites the people
[35:05]to who towards Allah while his murderers invite him to where hell
[35:10]what does it say an aggressive group will kill him ask anybody
[35:18]in Islamic history Amar died in his 90s fighting who who did
[35:26]Amar die fighting which battle did Amar die in the Battle of
[35:33]sa Amar died alongside IM Ali fighting mua how do you have
[35:40]an ounce of respect okay that's your reading no problem but I
[35:44]ask you like ibim anded said how do you have respect for
[35:49]this guy this guy is fighting as you say the khif of
[35:51]his time khif who's rightful all sinner has to be obeyed I
[35:57]would think you'd agree that IM Ali is rightful okay mu fights
[36:00]the prophet peace be upon many times people ask this question why
[36:04]didn't the prophet tell people who the good guys are around him
[36:08]and who the bad gu how much more clear do you need
[36:10]imagine imagine says this thir more than 30 years before the Battle
[36:18]of saf he tells everybody around him Amar will be called will
[36:22]be killed by an aggressive group of people he will invite them
[36:28]to Allah and they will invite him to where to hell if
[36:30]somebody fights aahi you keep telling me the sh you don't respect
[36:36]sahab you don't respect sahab you don't respect sahab so someone who
[36:39]kills a sahabi you want to say I have never met a
[36:44]sahabi I lived a thousand years after these people lived but the
[36:48]one who raises an Army against them you say the first of
[36:54]the kings of Islam the writer of the w the uncle of
[36:58]the Believers I'm seeing over here I'm seeing over here that says
[37:10]will be killed by a group of aggressors now there's a problem
[37:14]mu becomes khif how do we protect mu because you have to
[37:18]protect B someone says said what do you mean they have to
[37:20]protect if now you're glorifying the mosque of the OMS you think
[37:23]they're not going to glorify them when they were alive so how
[37:27]did you GL say look two Muslims can fight each other happens
[37:29]the Quran even says there may be one group they fight another
[37:32]Allah has said very clearly one invite to Hell another inviting to
[37:39]Allah do you know what I read one person's opinion was on
[37:42]this and I said look our ethos say we have to accept
[37:47]everyone's reading we have to tolerate he said yes yes they invite
[37:49]they were inviting people to hell but that was their itad gone
[37:53]wrong I'm baffled W I'm baffled but ahed was right he said
[38:00]these are not Sunni these are when a person begins to glorify
[38:04]mu and know that they're now moving to where they're now moving
[38:08]towards yes you read in the ones who fought and they started
[38:18]Wars against that person has a hate of IM Ali believe you
[38:21]me take this from me I believe that there are currents not
[38:27]generalizing but there are currents the history of Sunni Islam where a
[38:31]person's love of Imam Ali was by default it wasn't something that
[38:35]comes natural if they could praise the ones who fought IM Ali
[38:41]they'll always defend them defended defended Zu defended mu defended defended anyone
[38:49]who has fought IM Ali in a battle they'll find a way
[38:52]to defend him and people tell me but Shia and Sunni both
[38:57]love IM Ali I love IM Ali but but I despise with
[39:01]a passion whoever fights IMI but that's my reading and you have
[39:06]your reading so it's fine let's live together the same way you
[39:11]can call somebody except me when I despise them and hate them
[39:15]please please allow me allow me because I'm not going to allow
[39:18]the qurayshi Warlords and Bay's filth to dominate no you have your
[39:24]reading but I have my reading as well therefore when I look
[39:28]at Al is made it clear to me mua was ready to
[39:32]kill Companions of go and investigate how many companions were killed in
[39:39]that battle the battle of sa mua even some companions used to
[39:41]be baffled by mua's ways because mu reaches stage ways like look
[39:44]Muhammad says something and I say something blatant blatant Allah has an
[39:48]opinion I have an opinion I give you an example come with
[39:52]me over here my dear brothers and sisters to this book one
[39:56]of the most important books in the history of the religion of
[39:59]Islam's legal system everybody look over here my dear brother and sisters
[40:02]join me Al of IM Malik bin an all of you could
[40:06]see Al over here Arabic and English revised in whole translated by
[40:12]ABD Bui is very important why because AA Bui I remember years
[40:18]back when I was writing my PhD on muaah She Wrote This
[40:21]Book on mua let me just put it down she is the
[40:24]author of this book this is how funny you know when you
[40:28]say Islam everyone imagine Islam is like you know one particular entity
[40:30]they have so many divisions within them look at the book she's
[40:33]written mua restorer of the Muslim faith masallah mu restored the faith
[40:43]of Islam dying fighting mu restored Islam's wonderful Faith I'll leave you
[40:49]later on let's go back over here Al of IM Malik Arabic
[40:53]and English translate revised and whole translated by ABD bu published by
[40:59]who over here my dear brothers and sisters published by dwan press
[41:03]classical and contemporary books on Islam and sofism okay we come over
[41:08]here what do we see it was first edition dwan press zoom
[41:13]in please Dian press 1982 second edition Medina press 1989 third edition
[41:18]dwan press 2014 Arabic and English edition dwan press 201 14 everyone
[41:23]comes so we see the Maliki School of Law book 31 of
[41:30]this particular section come with me to Hadith number 33 in the
[41:34]section on business transactions let's see muawiya's opinion let's see other companions
[41:39]opinion let's see what other companions thought of muawiya come with me
[41:43]over here what do we see my dear brothers and sisters over
[41:47]here come and see that we look at this Hadith from Malik
[41:55]from okay and it comes over here what does he say it
[42:00]comes over here for us to see that there is a discussion
[42:07]between Abu and muaah the discussion is what Abu D this discussion
[42:11]was what that muaah bin Abu sufyan sold a gold or silver
[42:14]drinking vessel for more than its weight okay muaah sold gold or
[42:21]drinking vessel for more than its weight Abu D said I heard
[42:24]s Al forbidding such sales except like for like mua said to
[42:32]him I do not see any harm in it hold on hold
[42:35]on the guys just said to him that this was his opinion
[42:37]said I don't see any harm in it AB said to him
[42:42]who will excuse me from mu I tell him something from the
[42:47]messenger of Allah and he gives me his own opinion I tell
[42:54]him something from the messenger of Allah and he gives me what
[42:57]his own opinion and of course this this is something which runs
[43:02]in the in The Narrative of the Sunni world as well you
[43:04]will always see this narrative is there that you give an opinion
[43:08]then Omar gives his own opinion and then mu gives his own
[43:10]opinion and has her and it's so interesting everybody becomes much mashallah
[43:16]early Islam is full of much wonderful come back with me over
[43:20]here I tell him something from the messenger of Allah and he
[43:27]gives me what he gives me his his own opinion I will
[43:30]not live in the same land as you blatant Abu D said
[43:34]I'm not living in the same land as this guy then went
[43:39]to and mentioned that to him therefore wrote to muaah do not
[43:47]sell it except like for like wait for wait okay mua says
[43:52]something what does he do he says something so what do we
[43:57]have over here we have mu says something say something mu kills
[44:01]mu fights the IM of his time even though ahed says part
[44:07]of the Sunni Creed you obey the ruler be they rightful or
[44:10]be they sinner still fights the IM of his time and that's
[44:14]why it's no surprise for me that when I look at sui
[44:16]suti blatantly looks at muaah looks at yazid within this text if
[44:23]everyone joins me here Jal all of you know this text very
[44:25]well one of the most important text in the history of the
[44:30]religion of Islam how mua and his comrades abuse IM Ali blatantly
[44:33]okay but of course when a when a says anything about the
[44:42]sah how dare you but muan free ride of abuse wherever you
[44:45]want to go yes come with me over here the history of
[44:50]theas who took the right way do you know what's interesting about
[44:53]this book the history of the khalifas who took the right way
[44:57]translated by Abdul Samad Clark tah Publishers I've got over here in
[45:05]front of me which Edition the third revised Edition okay you come
[45:08]over here this is book is called what the history of KFA
[45:11]who took the right way so who took the right way mu
[45:16]is Theif true let's see the who took the right way AB
[45:21]look over here we have a whole section on Abu bakik and
[45:23]we have a section over here on who look over here we
[45:30]have a section om we have a section here on wh we
[45:34]have a section here on who Talib we have a section here
[45:39]on who alass Ali where's mua where's mua who took the right
[45:47]way you have abaki and imass where's mu where's Theif who took
[45:51]the right way even within them they know it's all trouble and
[45:55]it's all FNA come with me my dear brothers and sisters to
[45:58]page 212 look what sui writes over here when you see over
[46:04]here on page 212 the history of the khalifas look what it's
[46:08]written narrated The said Maran was the Amir over us and he
[46:16]used to abuse Ali every from the M while Hassan would listen
[46:22]and make no reply then then he sent a man to him
[46:28]saying I swear by Ali by Ali by Ali and by you
[46:32]by you I don't find any likeness for you except the mule
[46:39]Maran used to abuse IM Ali Maran was this with abusing IMI
[46:48]every single you say to me the on your pulpits is abused
[46:55]is abusing so again when people ask me as a sh number
[47:01]one you fight the IM of your time number two what do
[47:02]you have he killed the companions of number three he changed the
[47:06]Sunnah number four him and his son are involved in the killing
[47:13]of imass the same just go a couple of pages later my
[47:18]dear brothers and sisters a couple of pages later look over here
[47:25]at page 215 look over here page 15 IM Hassam died in
[47:33]Medina through poisoning his wife J poisoned him ya suggested secretly to
[47:39]her that she should poison him and then that then he would
[47:44]marry her and she did so when alassan died she sent a
[47:48]message to yazid asking him for the Fulfillment of what he had
[47:51]promised her he said we were not pleased with you for Al
[47:54]Hassan so should we then be pleased with you for ourselves okay
[47:58]yazid mua's appointment and at this time yazid was not appointed this
[48:04]is 10 years before yazid is appointed yazid poisons imass through giving
[48:11]poison to his wife how do you say to a man whose
[48:14]family not only have eaten the Flesh of Hamza but have poisoned
[48:19]and seen the Flesh of imass when blatantly is not is saying
[48:26]that yaid was the one who suggested some had the opinion that
[48:31]mu told her poison Hass I'll give you my son here says
[48:34]no yaid said to her poison Hass and I'll marry you yaid
[48:40]10 years before does this he is not khif yet that means
[48:42]his father isif is there a punishment for someone who kills imass
[48:46]none and I'll still see sunn around the world saying what they
[48:52]will be around the world saying that yes but muaah mu is
[48:58]he is the uncle of the Believers why because mu's sister daughter
[49:05]of Abu sufyan was married to the prophet please play clip number
[49:13]four so that we see the opinion of one of the scholars
[49:20]of the Sunni world when asked is it m the uncle of
[49:23]the Believers [Applause] yeah for for [Applause] yes well I feel sorry
[51:23]for the guy he called up and he said listen isn't mua
[51:24]the uncal he's you know kala mua is the uncle of the
[51:31]Believers the guy's like nah he's like no no no but you
[51:33]know when NBC in their trailer if any of you watched the
[51:38]trailer by the way at home NBC in their trailer this is
[51:39]vital has got no you are to me like Aon was to
[51:47]Moses I am the city of knowledge and mu he's got nothing
[51:48]like that so what you start doing is you start trying to
[51:52]let's try and find something over here let's try and build something
[51:57]for muaah you know what the M said the Manana said well
[52:02]is not called and his sister was married to did you ever
[52:10]see anyone say that then he went a step further he's like
[52:13]did you ever hear anyone say Abu sufyan is the grandpa of
[52:18]the Muslims because Abu sufyan daughter OMH is the prophet's wife so
[52:23]did you hear anyone saying that the grandpa Granddad of the Muslim
[52:26]is Abu sufyan nobody it's very interesting Muhammad Abu Bakr because of
[52:30]his involvement in the killing of nobody calls him even though is
[52:39]his sister but because Muhammad abak was against he could not be
[52:44]called whereas mua and that's why they went on to other things
[52:46]muaah is the writer of the wrer of the wah does not
[52:51]protect you from deviants if I now wrote what alai said then
[52:54]I could be like Abdullah I become a I had been a
[52:58]Muslim and then I apostate I had been writing what the prophet
[53:02]says and then I apostate there were others who apostate having written
[53:05]what the prophet said therefore my dear brothers and sisters mua and
[53:09]a film on mua I've got no issue with whatsoever it's all
[53:12]cool if you could have a film of mu then when we
[53:15]make films I beg you don't demonstrate and protest and throw random
[53:17]statements out and so on and that might even be address to
[53:21]the Shia they don't need to be so apologetic about your beliefs
[53:23]you have a reading and others have a reading we can tolerate
[53:29]each other's readings learn from each other and ultimately God Knows Best
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