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[0:12]Hussein.
[0:33]Hello.
[0:37]Alhamdulillah.
[0:41]for Alhamdulill.
[1:30]Alhamdulillah.
[1:47]The first of our loud salawat in honor of Muhammad Sam.
[1:58]The second even louder salawat in honor of Imm.
[2:08]Third, with your loudest voices in honor of the Imam of our
[2:15]time, Imed [Music] scholars, brothers and sisters, Did Abu Sufyan and Hinn
[2:32]turn from enemies of the holy prophet peace be upon him and
[2:35]his family to believers in his message?
[2:37]Indeed, you'll find the majority of the Muslims in the world believe
[2:41]they did.
[2:42]When you look at the different narratives that are posited by over
[2:46]a billion Muslims in the world today, you'll see that the majority
[2:50]school believes that Abu Sufyan and Hind both converted towards the path
[2:57]of the religion of Islam.
[2:58]Hence the majority of the lecturers that you listen to in the
[3:04]non-SI world even in the western popular non-SI speakers when they talk
[3:10]about Abu Sufyan they say and when they talk about Hind they
[3:15]say both of them they refer to them by saying may Allah
[3:20]be pleased with them.
[3:20]For us this is somewhat unusual because for many of the Shia
[3:26]they would assume that everybody is in agreement at least on those
[3:29]two.
[3:30]If for example you may differ over their son or you may
[3:33]differ over for example some of their close comrades or those who
[3:39]paved the way for them to dominate over Islamic society.
[3:42]But surely you thought there would be no difference between Sunni and
[3:47]Shia Abu Sufyan and Hind.
[3:48]But then the odd time you might meet someone at work and
[3:53]they might be called hind and you get baffled by this moment.
[3:55]Or you meet someone at university and you ask them what's their
[3:58]name?
[3:58]They say to you Sufyan.
[4:02]Many times if you travel to places especially North Africa, Morocco for
[4:06]example, you might meet the nicest person in the world but he
[4:10]may have either a list of names of the followers of B
[4:14]or a list of the names of the haters of B.
[4:18]So in Morocco you might have in one family someone called Sufyan
[4:22]and someone called Hassan and you might have in one family in
[4:26]Sudia you might have someone in one family called Yazid and another
[4:33]person called Ali when sometimes you hear that non Shia name Sufyan
[4:37]or they name Hind even in this country you might find even
[4:40]some Shia in Iraq might even name their daughters Hind there are
[4:47]parts of the Shia world where sometimes the families who maybe weren't
[4:51]the most educated in the world at a certain point and may
[4:53]have become religious later on they may name their daughters Hind personally
[4:58]remember a case in one particular marriage when I asked the boy
[5:03]what his name was it was a hardcore Shia name but then
[5:05]when I asked him what's the Mrs's name because we have to
[5:10]get everybody's names in order he said to me hind you can
[5:12]imagine how eager I was to pronounce that nikah so therefore when
[5:18]you see that there are people who are named Hind or there
[5:20]are those who are named Sufyan you wonder how could Muslims name
[5:26]after those if Muslim names after for example califfs who came later
[5:29]on okay that's understandable but the irony is that in the Sunni
[5:36]world Abu Sufyan is and hint is how did it reach this
[5:42]stage is an interesting question and very much relates to why we
[5:46]are here in Kabala and what happened in Kuva and what happened
[5:48]in Sham.
[5:49]On the one hand, of course, every Muslim is entitled to their
[5:52]narrative.
[5:53]If in the Sunni world they believe that Abu Sufyan and Hind
[5:58]converted to the religion of Islam, I cannot use my madhab to
[6:06]monopolize another narrative.
[6:05]I cannot now come to another narrative and put a gun on
[6:09]someone's head and say you have to believe what I believe.
[6:12]At the end of the day, if you want to believe that
[6:14]they converted, that's up to you.
[6:18]But when did they convert and how did they convert is an
[6:22]interesting question.
[6:22]Everybody can convert because in the Shia and Sunni world, we all
[6:28]agree that Abu Sufyan and Hind were the staunchest enemies of the
[6:31]Holy Prophet peace be upon him and his family.
[6:35]No Muslim denies that the difference occurs in terms of what?
[6:38]in terms of their later life because Hind lived many years after
[6:42]rasool Allah died and Abu Sufyan lived many years after rasool Allah
[6:48]died in the Sunni world.
[6:51]Therefore those many years meant that Hind is because she converts towards
[6:57]the path of the prophet.
[6:58]not just converts, she is someone who's devout in her following of
[7:02]the prophet.
[7:03]Someone who has piety and eventually of course she becomes mother of
[7:09]the most famous of the of many.
[7:12]Therefore, when the Sunni world looks at this, it's not unusual for
[7:18]them to say, and that's why when someone says that Sunni and
[7:22]Shia have more similarities than they have differences, we say that on
[7:28]the one level, yes, we want to have similarities on the general
[7:33]sphere that we all believe in.
[7:35]It's true.
[7:37]Hajj and Shah Ramadan's fasting and salah and so on zakat and
[7:41]all things that we believe in.
[7:42]But when it comes to our theology or when it comes to
[7:47]our belief system or when it comes to our then there are
[7:52]clear differences between the two.
[7:53]For example, they will say that the prophet's parents are in hell.
[7:59]Allah could not have given better parents to the prophet except those
[8:05]Amin and Abdullah who are in hell.
[8:07]I as a believe that the prophet's parents are in Jenna.
[8:11]And that's why it's vital that who you listen to and who
[8:18]your children listen to and who teaches your children Quran and history
[8:25]and must be someone whose itself is firm.
[8:27]Because if today I see somebody have their children get taught by
[8:33]a non Shia, it's not that the non Shia is bad, but
[8:35]the non Shia may have certain moments where that non Shia may
[8:44]sprinkle a little bit of the dust of what?
[8:48]A little bit of the dust of hate.
[8:50]A little bit of the dust within the child's upbringing.
[8:52]In the Sunni world, therefore, the prophet's parents are in hell.
[8:56]In the Shia world, the prophet's parents are in the prophet's uncle
[9:00]Abu Talib.
[9:02]In the Sunni world, not all but certain parts of the theology,
[9:05]Abu Talib is where?
[9:08]In hell.
[9:07]Whereas in the Shia world, Abu Talib is master of Jenna.
[9:14]Not just Jenna.
[9:13]One of the main leaders of Jenna.
[9:16]Likewise, when someone today comes and tells me there's not much difference
[9:19]between us.
[9:20]All of us are the same.
[9:21]We're not the same.
[9:24]And there's no harm not being the same.
[9:26]They have their literature.
[9:27]I have mine.
[9:29]Sometimes the literature they use gives them conclusions which are similar to
[9:34]mine.
[9:33]Sometimes the literature they use gives them conclusions which are far wider
[9:37]than mine, far off from mine.
[9:41]And one of the clearest examples to those who at home will
[9:44]say to you, I don't like to talk about these things.
[9:47]We're all one.
[9:47]We're all the same.
[9:49]Yes, we're all one in speaking against injustice.
[9:52]We should all be one in seeing again speaking against tyranny.
[9:55]We should all be one.
[9:56]But it all comes back when it comes to we're not all
[10:01]one.
[10:02]We have differences and the clearest of those comes in Abu Sufyan
[10:05]and Hind.
[10:07]How Abu Sufyan and Hinn made it to Jenna.
[10:11]And how ambah it to Jannam is something that will baffle me
[10:15]until my grave.
[10:17]But let us tonight dissect in depth whether Abu Sufyan and his
[10:21]wife turned into believers in the path of the prophet or whether
[10:28]they remain the staunchest of enemies on his path.
[10:30]And I'd like to do this in the following stages.
[10:32]Number one, if a verse of the Quran condemns your behavior, is
[10:36]there rehabilitation for such people or not?
[10:40]Number two, what was Abu Subjan and Hinn's history and what is
[10:46]it that led her to having such animosity to the holy prophet
[10:49]peace be upon him's family?
[10:50]Number three, how was she a cannibal even before she saw Hamza's
[10:59]body?
[10:57]And how was cannibalism within her character before the battle of Ahud.
[11:04]Number four, today in the Sunni world, people say she didn't eat
[11:10]Hamza's liver, which books even within their own literature show that not
[11:15]just eating, boiling and mutilating was also there.
[11:17]Number five, when she supposedly converted, when was it?
[11:23]Early or late?
[11:23]And if it was late, what group is she under?
[11:27]And what is her interaction with the holy prophet when she converts?
[11:34]Is it the sign of someone repentant?
[11:36]Or does she reply with some of the most arrogant replies you'll
[11:39]ever get?
[11:41]Number six, how was she rehabilitated?
[11:43]And how good is it if your son becomes in charge of
[11:45]all the writing?
[11:47]And how do ben Abbas even open a door for her rehabilitation?
[11:50]And then finally, how do sources make it clear that instead of
[11:57]it should be and why do our imams stress very clearly on
[12:05]who they do on and how does it become a source for
[12:09]all of us in Islamic history.
[12:11]Let's examine this and dissect the topic in complete depth.
[12:16]First point that has to be raised is that Abu Sufyan and
[12:18]Hind if there is an ayah of the Quran for example revealed
[12:23]about one of them we know that both of them are the
[12:25]staunchest enemies of the holy prophet peace be upon him and his
[12:30]family is there any doubt on that does anyone doubt that nobody
[12:33]doubts that not even in the Sunni world in the Sunni world
[12:36]they'll say that these two are the staunchest enemies of the holy
[12:42]prophet peace be upon him and his family that these two had
[12:44]a great amount of hate to the prophet.
[12:47]Hind herself, her history is super checkered.
[12:50]Hind herself was married a number of times before Abu Sufyan.
[12:53]Hind is not somebody her and Abu Sufuan had a love relationship
[12:59]from day one.
[12:58]Hind and I'll try and be as sensitive as I can while
[13:04]I sit here because if it was any other occasion I might
[13:06]go a bit deeper into such discussions.
[13:08]But Hind herself had enjoyed the company of a number of Arabs
[13:13]in Arabia.
[13:14]And that goes for a number of people.
[13:16]It's not just her.
[13:18]There are others as well.
[13:18]One only has to look at the mothers of certain personalities to
[13:22]see that either that was a profession or it was a lifestyle.
[13:27]So it differs from one to another.
[13:29]She herself originally was married to a man called HS and then
[13:32]later on marries a man called Fak.
[13:36]This man one day spots her alone with somebody.
[13:37]They were up to clearly no good.
[13:39]And then her father had said to her, "Listen, if you are
[13:45]up to no good, make it clear one way or the other
[13:47]because this is causing chaos.
[13:47]You're a married lady.
[13:51]You have Aban already as your son and now we've seen or
[13:54]we've heard that you're with somebody else." And that's why there will
[13:59]always be a question mark with all of these as to who's
[14:01]really their son.
[14:03]And no yes as much as history of course if I was
[14:08]in charge of the printers of history I'll make sure that I
[14:11]will look after my mom but the reality is that if I
[14:15]wasn't in charge of that then there is nothing to prove parentage
[14:18]you just have to hope for the best in all honesty and
[14:24]that's why that lady having committed this act eventually she marries Abu
[14:28]Sufyan when marry Abu Sufyan Abu Sufyan and her are already First
[14:31]cousin from one side, second cousin from another, they're already aristocrats.
[14:36]Those of us who've been with us on spiritual journeys in Omra
[14:39]will know when we do the outside Zara, we always make it
[14:43]a point to go to Dadwa.
[14:45]When we do the outside tour, we go to Dar Na.
[14:48]Dar Na was the parliament of Mecca.
[14:50]They say they say that woman had no place in Arabia.
[14:55]Come and look at Abu Leah's wife and Abu Sophyan's wife.
[14:59]They were running the show.
[14:59]Jamil and Hind were running the show.
[15:02]They were powerhouses.
[15:05]And you found therefore that these powerhouses while the prophet was sad
[15:11]am not a danger.
[15:12]There was no issue.
[15:14]When he announced his propheththood, nobody became more staunch against him than
[15:17]these.
[15:18]And that's why the Quran attacks them.
[15:20]Attacks Abu Leah by name.
[15:25]Attacks Abu Sufyan through character.
[15:27]These are two vital points.
[15:29]If the Quran attacks you, there's a question.
[15:33]If God exposes your behavior while you are not a Muslim, is
[15:39]there a way back for you or not?
[15:43]Because the Quran is not just a book for that time.
[15:46]The Quran is a book that's going to be read in the
[15:50]next 3 years, 6 years, 11 years.
[15:52]Imagine God reveals a verse about the day that an orphan on
[15:55]the streets of Kabella came up to me.
[15:57]I'm Amar.
[15:58]An orphan came to me and he said to me that could
[16:02]you give me a piece of meat?
[16:04]I want to eat this meat.
[16:04]And I turn around and I'm looking around and I see a
[16:09]lot of people looking at my character.
[16:09]So what do I do?
[16:13]I'm like yes, of course.
[16:14]Here have take some photos, put it on Insta, show that I
[16:18]serve.
[16:18]Correct.
[16:19]That's what we have to do.
[16:20]I serve and I give.
[16:23]Make sure the whole world knows that I give as well.
[16:24]Okay.
[16:27]I don't know if it's a show anymore.
[16:29]Well, I don't know if you remove the cameras and I don't
[16:33]know if there'll be this much show.
[16:34]You didn't used to be like this.
[16:36]One part of show is encouragement, but there's another which is like
[16:39]watch my every time I give a piece of bread, I I
[16:42]have to show the earth.
[16:42]I don't need to.
[16:45]And then serve why do I say this?
[16:47]Abu Sufyan and a surah was revealed about this behavior of his
[16:50]Abu Sufyan.
[16:51]the poor and the the young ones of Arabia, some of them
[16:57]were orphans.
[16:56]When they needed something in Arabia, whoever gave away the most meat
[17:00]was the most respected.
[17:02]If you gave away meat, say on a Friday the most, the
[17:05]community would say, "Look how much he gave away." Cuz we want
[17:10]community to praise us as well.
[17:11]So what happened was one day the same poor kid when nobody
[17:14]was there say it was a a Tuesday afternoon for example nobody
[17:20]was there was standing there this poor kid came so the poor
[17:22]kid came and he's like uh can I have that same piece
[17:26]of meat that you gave me on the Friday's like get out
[17:30]of my face move there's no insta over here there's no Tik
[17:32]Tok for me to show how much I serve mankind okay there's
[17:37]none of that Quran revealed a surah ib refers to Have you
[17:53]seen the one who belies the dean?
[17:54]Dean means the day of judgment.
[17:55]Belies the day of judgment.
[17:58]The one who does what?
[18:01]He doesn't.
[18:02]When the orphan comes to them, they turn them away.
[18:03]When the poor comes to them, they neglect them.
[18:06]When Allah exposes Abu Sufyan in an ayah of the Quran, a
[18:13]major question which I've thought about for many years.
[18:16]Would Allah expose somebody who is a disbeliever and do they later
[18:21]have a chance of conversion or no?
[18:24]It's an interesting one to think about and that's why I've always
[18:27]had a problem with Wbah's brother-in-law, governor of Kufa because the Quran
[18:31]revealed the verses about him.
[18:35]When a when an evil sinner comes to you with news, verify
[18:41]the newsman later makes him governor of Kufa.
[18:45]I've always wondered if Allah exposes you in the Quran to everybody,
[18:49]can you ever recover or not?
[18:52]This is a huge point because on the one hand someone could
[18:57]say but the hadith says that they recovered.
[19:01]Canad hadith override Quran there question.
[19:04]If a hadith says later converted but Quran said Allah exposes someone
[19:17]but Allah knows the future.
[19:19]So Allah if he knows this person will be good later on.
[19:23]Allah will not expose them.
[19:23]Therefore for us on the first level when we look at Abu
[19:28]Sufufyan Abu Sufyan and hint are not to be looked at later
[19:30]on.
[19:31]Early many ayats of the Quran are in condemnation of the two
[19:38]of them.
[19:35]If not one of them Allah protected the Quray.
[19:50]He protected them in sure that he gave them security.
[19:52]Who was these verses attacking?
[19:56]The aristocrats like Abu Sufyan and others.
[19:56]So many verses highlighted from the beginning that Abu Sufyan and his
[20:04]misses from the beginning are being attacked.
[20:04]Is there a chance you can rehab rehabilitate who the heavens have
[20:08]attacked?
[20:09]There's no chance.
[20:12]Surely there's no chance.
[20:13]This hint therefore when the prophet begun his message, she hated him
[20:16]the worst of hating.
[20:19]And her father, her uncle, you all know her uncle of course
[20:24]and her brother.
[20:26]You've got Shaba, you got Wed.
[20:27]These guys hated Islam.
[20:28]And that's why when the prophet migrated to Medina, they were the
[20:35]ones who orchestrated, mark my words, orchestrated the battle of Badr.
[20:40]They never attended.
[20:40]Who?
[20:41]Abu Sufyan and Hinn didn't attend the battle of Badr.
[20:45]But Hinn's dad does.
[20:45]And Hinn's brother does.
[20:50]And Hinn's uncle does.
[20:50]And Dulfar does as well.
[20:52]True.
[20:53]Dulfar attended as well.
[20:55]And if attends, it's game over.
[21:02]True.
[20:59]And attends he is not going to run away.
[21:07]That day in the battle of Bad Imam killed the dad, killed
[21:12]the uncle.
[21:14]And Imam on that day, how old was he?
[21:16]24.
[21:17]24 year old Alibab.
[21:17]Sometimes when you hear mah stories, you think he's 61.
[21:23]You think he's 55.
[21:21]24 years of age.
[21:23]Mha d d d d d d d d d d d
[21:24]d d d d d d d d d d d d
[21:24]d d d d d d d d d d d d
[21:27]d d d d destroyed them on that day.
[21:28]She when she heard that her dad and her uncle and her
[21:30]brother had been killed, she was one of the first to write
[21:36]a mara.
[21:37]You know before a majus people they read a mara correct in
[21:41]the Indopac subcontinent sometimes it's pronounced marcia in Arabic originally it's mara
[21:47]marthea someone might recite when you're grieving in Arabia the woman would
[21:55]write poetry of grief it would be called marathi the martha the
[21:59]most famous lady who would grieve in Arabia her name was Kansa
[22:03]she used to be in the markets in Mecca.
[22:07]She would write about those who have bererieved.
[22:11]Hence stood there.
[22:11]She said, "My Martha for my dad and for my brother and
[22:17]for my uncle is going to be greater than yours." And her
[22:23]ends by saying, "Alas, people will remember the torment of okay had
[22:31]a torment inside her.
[22:33]But you guys aren't ready for what type of torment?
[22:35]We're talking the embodiment of a jahi Arab Satan.
[22:42]Yes.
[22:43]What type of torment her torment was?
[22:46]She said firstly, I'm going to come to I'm going to bring
[22:51]all the women with us to and if you men perform well
[22:53]in her poetry, without being too explicit in her poetry, she said,
[22:56]if you men all perform and go forward, we'll spread the rugs
[23:02]under you.
[23:01]And if you don't, then we're ready to leave you.
[23:05]Just before they got to the battle of they stopped at Abwa.
[23:09]Abwis is this area.
[23:13]It's about 125 miles away from Medina.
[23:15]Abwa is famous for a couple of reasons.
[23:19]One is the birthplace of our seventh im.
[23:22]The second reason is that it's the place where Amina, mother of
[23:25]the prophet peace be upon him and his family is buried.
[23:29]When him stopped there, you know what she said to Abu Sufyan?
[23:35]She's like, "Let's excavate his mom's body from the earth.
[23:39]Let's exclude the mom's body from the earth and we'll chop her
[23:49]limbs.
[23:47]We'll take one of the limbs.
[23:51]You take it.
[23:51]Every one of us they catch, we ransom with a limb." Most
[23:57]people when they say to me that hind is a cannibal they
[24:01]normally go jump to and Hamza before the battle in Abwa she
[24:09]said that cut up Muhammad's mom's body she has died before cut
[24:14]up the body get limbs every prisoner of ours that they catch
[24:18]in the battle ransom a limb of Muhammad's mom's body and you
[24:25]get a prisoner back.
[24:26]I ask you, non-Muslims, even some of them wouldn't do this.
[24:32]Non-Muslim doesn't know anything.
[24:33]Hi.
[24:33]None of them would even come near this.
[24:36]Someone says, "Yes, but she's a non-Muslim." What I mean is that
[24:39]some non-Muslims when they convert, their fra is still pure.
[24:42]Someone who tells you, "Let's get a body out and cut the
[24:45]limbs," that you either put with an Italian mafia or you put
[24:48]with some worse than that.
[24:51]Honestly, you will put with someone worse than that.
[24:53]you will put with a group of people who are cannibals.
[24:56]Abu sub and others they said listen leave his mom's body let's
[24:59]just get to the battle and you all know very well what
[25:03]ensues in the battle and that's why some of the contemporary Sunni
[25:06]speakers they do something very interesting we all know that in the
[25:10]battle she asked to be the one who kills who kills either
[25:17]the prophet or kills Imam Ali or kills Hamza he couldn't kill
[25:22]the prophet couldn't kill Im so he killed Hamza.
[25:27]In the Sunni world, this is a very delicate moment.
[25:31]So, they have to find a way to look after Muawi's mom.
[25:34]Yes.
[25:34]Ali's dad, you don't need to find a way to look after.
[25:40]I want you to all focus on what I just said.
[25:43]Muawi's mom, you need to find a way to look after her.
[25:48]Ali's dad can burn at the bottom of hell.
[25:51]Mana, I don't understand.
[25:51]Aren't they both Sahab or no?
[25:53]So, why do you give preference to this one's mom?
[25:56]not this one's dad.
[25:59]But of course there's no difference between us.
[26:02]So what happened in that battle is that she had asked him
[26:09]he came forward he struck Hamza in the Sunni world what do
[26:12]we do because she struck Hamza but this is a cannibal and
[26:17]a cannibal is not just going to let her body be buried.
[26:21]So the cannibal has to do something about this.
[26:22]They did what I call and those who've heard my majalis muharam
[26:28]recently and in just after the first ashra I call this the
[26:32]ib ziad scapegoat syndrome you like that title ib zad scapegoat syndrome
[26:39]if you ask in the sun world today who's responsible for killing
[26:46]say ibn ziad so how about yazid was in sham baba ib
[26:48]ziad didn't even turn up to kabal he was in kufa ib
[26:52]zad scapegoat syndrome is to protect the califf always.
[26:55]Yeah, you protect the califf.
[26:57]You lay all the blame where on IB Zadbad is responsible for
[27:02]but he didn't even come to Karbala.
[27:04]So your reasoning for Yazid is the same as Iben Zad.
[27:07]Both of them did not come but they ordered what happened.
[27:09]How does it relate here today?
[27:11]They say it's not Hind who killed Hamza or mutilated.
[27:20]It was Juber or Jabar the master of wii who ordered wii
[27:22]to do that.
[27:24]Yes I don't doubt a general in the mabarat could be the
[27:26]one who pops someone but the orders are given by Saddam Hussein.
[27:30]True.
[27:31]Do you understand?
[27:33]A general is the one who orders someone to pop someone in
[27:37]there to kill somebody to shoot them.
[27:38]But the order comes from where?
[27:40]From the prime minister from the president.
[27:43]Today they say look firstly Jabber or Jer the master of Washi
[27:50]he's the one who told Washi to mutilate the body not poor
[27:54]hind poor hind is innocent she's not like that it's Mawa's mom
[27:59]it's not a bloodthirsty family it's like they give you flowers when
[28:05]they see you they're not bloodthirsty at all then how do I
[28:08]reply to this I see whether I look at Ibn and Iban
[28:13]Hasham's rescension of it.
[28:16]All of them mention clearly either mutilation of the body of Hamza
[28:25]or boiling of the liver of Hamza or a necklace of the
[28:30]liver pieces of Hamza.
[28:31]All of them.
[28:33]So why today would you find a group who says no?
[28:37]Because you have to protect every one of the Sahaba's families.
[28:40]So you have to find a way to protect even those who
[28:47]supposedly converted.
[28:46]She came and what's agreed upon by Sun and Shia.
[28:51]She came she said cut up his body.
[28:53]They cut up the body.
[28:54]She tried to on the very least on the very least take
[29:00]the pieces of that liver and in some hadith says that she
[29:05]tried to eat the pieces of the liver of Hamza.
[29:11]tried to eat.
[29:13]In the Sunni hadith, it says, "But she spat it out." And
[29:17]then they give us two hadiths of the prophet where the prophet
[29:20]says, "Fire cannot touch my family or that my family is meat
[29:23]cannot be chewed in that way." So they try and protect it
[29:27]in that way.
[29:29]She did that therefore on that day.
[29:30]Someone says that if she's done that and it's clear she can't
[29:35]be it's over.
[29:36]Can't be it's over.
[29:37]It cannot be the case.
[29:41]No, it's not over.
[29:41]Why?
[29:42]because they said that five years after this Hind and Abu Sufyan
[29:46]converted to Islam when did they convert it's very interesting if you
[29:52]go online whenever a non-SI speaker and even those famous western ones
[29:55]you follow some of you on your Instagram you sometimes and then
[29:59]they follow one who loves the one who hates even them they
[30:06]follow not just they follow they sign up for their courses this
[30:15]diluted shism.
[30:17]Oh, because he has a nice clip about, I don't know, something
[30:21]like, I don't know, an owl can go to Jenna or something,
[30:23]you know, some clip like that or some mental health clip.
[30:28]So, straight away you see, I want to follow imam for a
[30:31]califf's name, whatever.
[30:32]It's unbelievable.
[30:34]How does a Shia How does a Shia have any any adoration
[30:39]for one who loves the camel rider and her clan?
[30:40]I don't know.
[30:45]Five years after the prophet, you know what they say?
[30:50]They say yes, they converted on the day of the opening of
[30:52]Mecca.
[30:53]Those who convert on the day of the opening of Mecca, say
[30:57]a couple of thousand of them they converted.
[31:00]You know what that conversion is?
[31:01]That conversion is a conversion where it's like listen either my neck
[31:05]or I say that what option would you take straight away you
[31:09]want me to say it 100 times I'll say 100 times yeah
[31:12]they are called we all know them yes they were freed on
[31:18]the day of the opening of Mecca these people the they converted
[31:21]when they converted on the opening of Mecca in Sunni world are
[31:25]the highest thens and then has to be the lowest of the
[31:30]Sahabah.
[31:31]Yes, they're all Sahabah.
[31:35]All of them, they're all converts in the life of the pro.
[31:38]But the muajar who left Mecca, who left their family, is the
[31:40]same as the one who on the day of Mecca, when Islam
[31:43]won, suddenly said, "Are they the same?
[31:46]They're not the same.
[31:49]The muajund of them converted when Abu Leah and the rest were
[31:52]whipping them and throwing stones at them.
[31:54]Are they the same as the one who converts two years before
[31:56]the death of the prophet?" No.
[31:58]And that's why in certain pieces of Sunni literature, what do we
[32:04]find?
[32:05]That the one who converted on the opening of Mecca cannot become
[32:09]Khalifa.
[32:10]Why?
[32:11]Cuz you're not sure of their Islam.
[32:12]I don't know about your Islam.
[32:16]You converted last minute, bro.
[32:17]Why didn't you convert before?
[32:18]I'm not sure of your Islam.
[32:19]Abu Suyan and Hinn, they were certain they're gonna get killed.
[32:25]The prophet knew, listen, we kill these guys.
[32:26]is they're going to say Muhammad is a man of the sword
[32:29]and Muhammad only wants blood.
[32:30]If I keep them alive, I'm going to baffle everybody.
[32:33]I'm going to make it clear that I've not come to chop
[32:35]people's heads off.
[32:36]You're welcome to come and join this religion.
[32:39]The aim of the religion is not to come and kill.
[32:40]You may have descendants who do that.
[32:42]It's not our character.
[32:46]Okay?
[32:46]The prophet therefore hint converts on that day.
[32:48]But when you convert, we've all done conversions in our time.
[32:52]All the molana sitting here and everybody, we've all done conversions in
[32:55]our time.
[32:54]Normally converts, you have a couple of types of convert.
[32:59]One type of convert is the one who's blatantly just converting for
[33:02]the sake of that Shia girl sitting there.
[33:05]Correct?
[33:06]He's like, listen, I ain't got a clue what this Mana is
[33:08]talking about.
[33:09]I'm converting because your dad said you either convert or I kill
[33:12]you.
[33:13]I'm converting because of that reason.
[33:14]Let him hurry up and say those random words in Arabic that
[33:17]I'll pretend I'm smiling to him and I can't wait to get
[33:19]out of here, me and you, and we run away.
[33:21]That's one type of convert.
[33:24]A second type of convert is the one who knows the religion
[33:26]inside out to the extent that you look at them and they're
[33:28]better Muslims than we are.
[33:33]That's second type of convert.
[33:34]The third is Hind.
[33:38]The third is Hind.
[33:41]Someone says the first one, no, the first one at least has
[33:44]a smile when they're looking at us.
[33:47]They have a smile because they're just like get this over and
[33:51]done with the second one knowledge.
[33:53]Third is who?
[33:55]Hind hind.
[33:54]How is she the third one?
[33:56]Allah when he told them listen Islam is now open for you.
[34:01]Now there are conditions when you become a Muslim or you become
[34:04]a Muslim.
[34:05]They said yeah what's the conditions?
[34:06]So you know he'd probably tell them the list of conditions until
[34:10]he said to her and no more adultery no adultery when you
[34:16]become a Muslim.
[34:18]And she looked at him and she said to him, "Do free
[34:20]women commit adultery." So it's not ask Allah to pray for me.
[34:30]No.
[34:32]This one the tongue is from here until the end of this
[34:37]hall.
[34:38]The longest tongue you'll ever see.
[34:41]They said, "Do the free woman commits zena?" Baba, you're talking to
[34:46]the most important man on earth.
[34:48]There are us people sitting in this hall.
[34:50]If we sat with a maana, someone above maana, highest level, there's
[34:56]a certain humility when you're sitting with somebody.
[34:58]He said, and the Muslim does not commit adultery.
[35:02]The Muslim does not commit.
[35:03]She said, do free woman commit adultery?
[35:05]And then he said, and do not kill children.
[35:08]You don't kill your children.
[35:10]And then she replied with a reply.
[35:14]What was her reply?
[35:15]And what children did you leave us behind after bad?
[35:23]When a person converts to Islam, if they're blessed to see the
[35:30]face of the holy prophet, they eyes should overflow with tears.
[35:34]She highlighted one clear thing.
[35:38]What happened to my kids at Bedr?
[35:46]I'm gonna get your kids back one day.
[35:47]The answer is a devastating answer by the way.
[35:50]And in Islam, you do not kill your children.
[35:52]A Muslim does not kill their children.
[35:55]And what children did you leave behind for us after better?
[35:59]That person I ask you when they say such a line, is
[36:03]there any las in them?
[36:06]Is there any sincerity in them or no?
[36:09]Not which sincerity?
[36:10]Which sincerity?
[36:10]There's zero sincerity at all.
[36:15]Nothing.
[36:13]And that's why in the Sunni world, no, it's enough that number
[36:19]one, she uttered the shahada.
[36:21]Number two, she saw the prophet, sat with the prophet.
[36:26]That's enough for us.
[36:27]We don't need to investigate anything else.
[36:30]And that's why when they rehabilitated her history, they said after the
[36:35]prophet died, she fought with the prophet at battle of Yanam.
[36:39]She was telling the other ladies to come and join alongside the
[36:41]holy prophet.
[36:42]She was helping with the Muslim treasure.
[36:43]Suddenly hind became wall.
[36:47]Hinn became mother.
[36:49]Hinn became the holiest person in the world.
[36:52]Why hind?
[36:52]Is there any other stories about hint?
[36:53]No, just like she saw the prophet and Mecca was the opening
[36:58]of Mecca and that's it and so on and so forth.
[37:02]As for Abu Sufyan, they say Abu Sufyan he converted, didn't he?
[37:06]Yes, he did.
[37:06]And then after the prophet died, he lost his eye in battle.
[37:10]He loved Islam and so on and so forth.
[37:14]With all of that, therefore, cannibal ripped Hamza's body, rude to the
[37:18]prophet, enemy against the prophet.
[37:19]They said, "Look, Toba is open for everybody." We don't deny Toba
[37:25]is open for everybody.
[37:25]I don't deny that.
[37:25]But I am suspect if a cannibal can ever do Toba.
[37:29]A cannibal I until today have not seen a stat of a
[37:33]person who eats human bodies and has done Toba towards the religion
[37:35]of Islam.
[37:36]That's on the one hand.
[37:36]On the other hand, they say, "No, no, you must keep the
[37:41]door open for Toba." No.
[37:41]The only reason you kept the door open for Toba, she is
[37:46]Muawia's mother.
[37:45]That's it.
[37:47]Because the rehabilitation firstly worked on which level?
[37:49]Number one, Muawa becomes Khalifa.
[37:51]If you're going to become Khalif, if you're going to look after
[37:53]your mom, of course, you're going to look after your mom.
[37:57]You're going to ensure that your mom's image is the best image.
[38:00]And if your enemy fights you then you make sure that the
[38:06]father's image of that enemy becomes the worst.
[38:08]And that's why the justositioning is interesting.
[38:09]You have hind dies as a Muslim while the Abu Talib dies
[38:15]as what?
[38:17]while Abu Alib dies as a kafar that level therefore even the
[38:20]Abbassids you know because one of the arguments that they give is
[38:24]that the hatred towards hind and Abu Sufyan it is because of
[38:28]Abbas they hated Banu um Banu Abbas did not like Bani but
[38:33]they still praised some of the like Abd and others so you
[38:36]cannot say B Abbas are completely bias and one may even argue
[38:39]Banu Abbas helped in rehabilitating when they changed their course of opinion
[38:45]on Many um they helped in looking after Hindu.
[38:49]If Bennu Abbas therefore sold their souls, Benuaya sold their souls.
[38:53]Then which group of people were the ones who made clear that
[39:01]Abu Sufyan and Hinn while they uttered in public?
[39:02]They were remaining without belief in private.
[39:07]And that was the imams of Bam.
[39:08]Yeah.
[39:09]The imams of B are a source of history, a source of
[39:13]knowledge.
[39:13]When we look at the ims of did they say and did
[39:19]they say the two converted why wouldn't the imams want them to
[39:24]convert if they convert sincerely why not there were members of who
[39:29]were lovers of the imams do not attack them people like that
[39:37]they were bi hardcore but the imams do what the imams make
[39:41]sure that they praise them even though they're the bad ones of
[39:49]them who heard about and accepted what happened.
[39:53]Otherwise, if you're and you love Hussein, Allah opens the doors of
[39:56]Jenna for you.
[39:59]Therefore, when the imams of B came, they made clear that Hind
[40:06]and Abu Sufyan there was no conversion.
[40:08]How do we prove this?
[40:09]On a number of levels.
[40:12]The first level that we prove this is that Imm Ali Alisam
[40:14]himself when told about Muawi being killed he said rather that man
[40:22]is not killed that man is the son of Akbad that was
[40:24]a line they would never stop repeating that that Muawia is the
[40:30]son of the liver eater the liver devourer I ask all of
[40:33]you if your mom has done toba do you bring up the
[40:37]old sins of your mother or no because Islam wipes away what
[40:42]was done before.
[40:41]So why would number one im Ali still refer to her eating
[40:46]the liver of Hamza if Toba has been accepted by Allah subhana
[40:49]wa tala?
[40:50]That is number one.
[40:51]Number two in the do we mention this line or no?
[41:02]And who else?
[41:10]Son of Abu Sufyan and Hind you say to me converted on
[41:20]the first level.
[41:23]Imam mentions in we seek that this is a day celebrated and
[41:33]the son of the livereater on him and on his father dua
[41:43]asking Allah to remove his rahma from these people if they were
[41:48]converts and hide number three if they converted then why is Abu
[41:53]Sufy after telling Im Ali, I'll bring you soldiers.
[41:55]Let's fight Abu Bakr and take leadership.
[41:59]What makes me laugh is that they say Abu Sufy told let
[42:07]us overthrow Abu Bakr.
[42:09]That is one of the glorious they'll probably make it a meme
[42:15]or a real soon.
[42:15]Wallah go and see the literature.
[42:21]Abu Sufyan says, "I've got thousands of soldiers who are ready." Oh,
[42:24]Ali.
[42:25]And that's why when people say to me, why did I im
[42:28]Ali fight?
[42:27]Why did I im Ali fight?
[42:31]Why?
[42:28]Listen, Ali, if he felt that was something he wanted, he would
[42:34]have done it without Abu Sufyan's help.
[42:35]And even with Abu Sufyan, he could have taken those soldiers.
[42:37]But I im was already I im it was the people that
[42:42]lost out, not Imam.
[42:42]The people lost outb on the day of is already imam for
[42:48]his someone else brings a scam election that's for them.
[42:50]So therefore if Abu Sufyan truly is converted as you say so
[42:58]Abu Sufyan told that we should overthrow Abu Bakr and I have
[43:06]soldiers ready number four if you've converted you raise a son to
[43:20]fight Ali Where's Omua?
[43:28]You said you've converted.
[43:32]You raise a son to fight Ali at.
[43:34]Is that what you do?
[43:37]Is that what you want?
[43:40]You make sure that there's a whole army.
[43:42]And therefore, which conversion?
[43:44]Conversion raises the son to love Ali because the prophet said that
[43:51]if you want to see the Mumin versus the test them on
[43:55]their love of Ali a M will always love Ali and the
[44:00]hates Ali and don't worry I'll come to Muawia soon we have
[44:05]a few nights coming up his I'm going to do my own
[44:11]or just on him okay that's one we will come to soon
[44:12]but here Number four, if Abu Suyan converted, Im Bakar wouldn't say
[44:19]in a [Music] look at the market difference when people say, "Why
[44:31]can't I marry from this?" or "Why can't my daughter marry?
[44:33]We're all the same." All the same.
[44:39]We're all the same.
[44:38]It says, "Try with the grandchildren.
[44:43]They'll get lost.
[44:44]Well, they do get lost already.
[44:47]That's the problem.
[44:47]Every week you have to answer an email on these issues.
[44:51]Half and how different could it be?
[45:01]But I know that I go to the day of judgment saying
[45:03]I ask Allah to remove his from someone who definitely was an
[45:09]enemy of the prophet.
[45:09]I'm not sure about their Toba.
[45:11]One thing we're certain about they were enemy but they're no another
[45:19]of the proofs and arguably the clearest proof is what Zam said
[45:25]in this is clearly the biggest of the proofs because she is
[45:38]standing in front of Yazid talking about his grandma.
[45:42]That's huge.
[45:44]But when she's talking about his grandmother, she wants to make something
[45:52]clear.
[45:50]How can someone hope for sympathy and compassion from somebody who came
[46:00]from mouths that chewed the liver of the nobles?
[46:06]That was the cutting line that if you doubted whether this man's
[46:14]grandma is she a convert or not, then know one thing.
[46:24]Men, this is the line.
[46:33]How can someone hope for compassion from somebody from whose mouth the
[46:41]liver of the nobles was chewed and from somebody who was born
[46:50]from the flesh of the most noble people.
[46:52]Yes, this person is the one who was born from those who
[46:59]killed the most noble people.
[47:00]How can I hope from sympathy and compassion from someone whose mouth
[47:04]chewed the liver of the noble?
[47:06]When say Zanab said that to Yazid, what was she mentioning?
[47:11]She was making it clear that you may have tried with your
[47:13]dad to rehabilitate your mom's position, but while we're here, we'll make
[47:21]it clear that those are the two most severe enemies of the
[47:24]Holy Prophet peace be upon him's family.
[47:26]And that there was no conversion of she says in the beginning
[47:29]of the sermon is it free oh son of the is it
[47:36]just oh son of those who were freed on the day of
[47:41]Mecca that you place your wives behind the cover and the daughters
[47:45]of Allah have no cover to cover them.
[47:48]Yes, sabb exposed everything about these people's character in her sermon.
[47:54]And that's why her sermon wasn't just the sermon about talking about
[47:57]history.
[47:58]It was a sermon of that us the Shia we differentiate between
[48:03]truth and falsehood between right and wrong between Al Muhammad and the
[48:10]enemies of Al Muhammad.
[48:13]We have wah of al Muhammad and we do tab of their
[48:16]enemies.
[48:16]H said something to the prophet.
[48:18]It was achieved her plan.
[48:22]What did she say when the prophet said to her you cannot
[48:24]kill children?
[48:26]She said and what children did you leave behind for us after
[48:30]the battle of bad?
[48:32]What does that mean?
[48:32]That means if I bring up a son and I bring up
[48:36]grandsons, I'm going to make sure they mutilate your kids.
[48:38]I'm not going to leave a single one of your kids alone.
[48:42]What happened in Karbala was a vengeance for what happened at Badr.
[48:46]Yes.
[48:47]I'm not going to leave even a three-year-old alone.
[48:51]I'm not even going to leave a 5-year-old or an 11year-old or
[48:56]a 13year-old.
[48:56]If it means horses kick their bodies, let those hooves kick those
[49:03]children.
[49:04]If it means arrows are in their necks, then I don't mind
[49:07]seeing a baby with blood all over his neck.
[49:10]It is a revenge mission that took place in Kabella from the
[49:15]most satanic jahi group against the noble ones of Al Muhammad the
[49:24]who Allah purified in the holy Quran.
[49:29]on the 10th of Muharam their children are running from one part
[49:33]to another with their dresses on fire and that's why for some
[49:37]of the imams of it's those children that used to break their
[49:43]hearts when you'd see Imam al Bakr sometimes he'd remember cuz he
[49:46]was only three at the time in Kbella he'd remember the kids
[49:49]that used to hover around him and how Z became an umbrella
[49:54]for those children in Kabella and Imam likewise how many times would
[50:03]he remember the mass of the ladies and the children al came
[50:08]after Fatama's grandchildren in Kabala and that's why Mama Sadak one day
[50:15]when they burned his house he tried to extinguish the fire and
[50:20]his children ran from one side of the house to anotherids wanted
[50:26]to get rid of the Imm and the family of the Imam.
[50:32]Imagine the scenes in Medina with that fire burning and the children
[50:36]running from one side and the other and one calling out where
[50:43]is my father and another calling out where is my uncle.
[50:46]When the companions of the Imam came to visit the Imam, they
[50:53]saw the tears overflow from the eyes of Imis.
[50:56]They asked the Imam, "Oh, I im you are the imams of
[51:01]Sabur.
[51:02]You are the ones who teach us patience.
[51:04]But we see you cry in this way.
[51:07]What is it that makes you cry?
[51:08]Is it because of what happened in your house?
[51:12]Is it because of what happened to your family?
[51:16]the im while looking at them and the tears flowing from his
[51:25]eyes he said to them I don't cry about myself rather I
[51:29]cry because when I saw my daughters running from one part of
[51:37]the house to another I remembered the daughters of abdullah when they
[51:44]ran from one end of carabala to another.
[51:46]Some of you in this hall may be sitting where fell.
[51:53]Some of you may be sitting where Z covered head.
[52:01]Some of you in this hall may be sitting whereab what a
[52:10]dead she look for.
[52:11]Some of you may be sitting where looked for body.
[52:17]Yes, for all you know, you may be sitting near one of
[52:25]the children where they fell on the plains of Kbala.
[52:27]Remember, we're not far from Abdah.
[52:30]Yes.
[52:31]So, one of the kids is bound to have fallen somewhere.
[52:35]One of them is bound to have been slapped somewhere.
[52:38]One of them is bound to have been kicked somewhere.
[52:41]One.
[52:41]But one thing we do know is Hammed Muslim when he said,
[52:47]"I couldn't believe what I saw.
[52:51]Children's dresses on fire in Caribella." He said, "I saw the children's
[52:57]dresses on fire and carabala." So he said, "I came up to
[52:59]the child and I said to her, take some water." She said
[53:04]to me, "Are you with us or are you against us?" Allah
[53:06]imagine that child.
[53:08]He said to her, "I'm neither with you nor I'm against you."
[53:12]She looked at him and she said, "How could you give me
[53:18]water while my father lay there?
[53:19]Allah abar forgive me for not finishing this mus.
[53:23]How can I drink water while my father lay thirsty?
[53:30]Then she said to him, "Oh man, have you read the Quran?"
[53:33]He said to her, "Yes." She said, "Have you read?
[53:38][Music] As for the orphan, don't hurt the orphan." He said, "Yes,
[53:46]I have." She said, Hussein, I'm the orphan of Abdullah talking to
[53:55]you.
[53:56]Yes.
[53:57]She said to him, "Have you read the ayah?
[54:00]Imagine this was your child." Yes.
[54:05]With her fire on her dress.
[54:06]Anyone here who has children, only you will know how heartbreaking seeing
[54:14]the tear from your daughter is.
[54:15]She said to him, "Have you read the when someone asks you
[54:22]don't reject them?" He said to her, "Yes." She looked towards one
[54:26]land, the land of Naj Allah.
[54:29]Why?
[54:30]Because she wished her grandfather was there with her.
[54:40]Raise your hands my dear brothers and sisters.
[54:52]Ya Allah raise us with Muhammad and Muhammad.
[54:56]Raise us with the Imam of our time im allow us to
[55:02]be amongst his companions.
[55:02]Ya Allah bless us every year with Hussein.
[55:09]And ya Allah bless us with the intercession of the Imam.
[55:13]For our who instilled in us the love of Im Hussein.
[55:17]Ya Allah raise them with their beloved Imam.
[55:21]The originators of this melus and the team at spiritual journeys and
[55:25]all of those who have joined us.
[55:27]May Allah bless you all and raise you with the imam of
[55:32]your time.
[55:31]Some of you have asked me for some of all of us
[55:35]really in reality have difficult issues to face in our lives and
[55:39]we're better than Hussein for us to raise our hands in dua
[55:49][Music] all together.
[56:05][Music] [Music] [Music] We pray to Allah subhana wa ta'ala But before
[56:29]it the loudest of your salawa.
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