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Understanding (ma’rifa) in the Mirror of Intellect (‘aql)- By Sheikh Mirza Abbas- Monday 10/01/2022
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Weekly Webinar on Islam & Contemporary Issues
Talk by HIWM Sheikh Mirza Abbas
Topic: “Understanding (ma’rifa) in the Mirror of Intellect (‘aql) “
️ Monday 10th January 2022
Time: 6:00 p.m.
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[0:01]dear brothers and sisters salaam alaikum and welcome to this weekly webinar
[0:07]with me the moderator as you know the topic of this webinar
[0:12]is islam and contemporary issues and it is a topic that will
[0:15]be discussed every monday at 6 00 pm here on zoom and
[0:16]youtube until march of this year insha allah this webinar is an
[0:22]open webinar meaning that you who are watching on youtube or those
[0:25]who are participating here on this zoom i can you know send
[0:29]in your questions for the question and answer session inshallah near the
[0:32]end of the webinar and of course during this few months i
[0:34]will be joined by steam scholars and guests that will delve into
[0:39]their own sub-topic relating to the main topic of islam and contemporary
[0:42]issues and today we are blessed our widgets all islam on muslim
[0:45]abbas just before i introduce him a quick biography insha allah abbas
[0:51]traveled from us after finishing his as from the evergreen valley college
[0:55]in san jose california to home for his house of studies he
[0:59]finished his hausawi studies to the level of khalid and came to
[1:04]the uk as a resident scholar for the ksimc of birmingham where
[1:07]he served four years and then he served another four years at
[1:10]the al-zahra foundation of nottingham for the past six years he has
[1:16]been appointed as the internal manager for the house of elmira of
[1:19]england and he's also the program leader for the ba house of
[1:21]studies at the islamic college of london he extensively teaches at the
[1:26]college and at the hausa as well he is also involving in
[1:30]the works of propagation of the makhtav globally for more than two
[1:35]decades and he has translated many texts and most important of all
[1:39]is the theological instruction of ayatollah mr yester which is used as
[1:43]a text book in theology for the houses in um inshallah he
[1:47]has also acquired a masters in theology from the university of birmingham
[1:51]and is working on his doctrinal studies in mysticism inshallah as you
[1:56]know the layout will be uh sheikh mirza talking for about 40
[1:59]to 45 minutes and near the end inshallah we'll have a quick
[2:02]question and answer session thank you so much for joining me today
[2:11]it's always a pleasure to have you on these uh webinars and
[2:14]of course you know people always look forward to these uh sessions
[2:17]that we have so inshallah whenever you're ready uh sheikh you can
[2:20]introduce the sub topic that you're going to be talking about today
[2:24]and we can begin inshallah [Music] thank you very much uh brother
[2:53]abdi uh for uh for being the host and i also thank
[2:58]the islamic center of england for giving me the opportunity to be
[3:03]with you all tonight um first i would extend my apologies to
[3:09]all of you because uh what we have learned in the seminary
[3:14]in the hosa is that for the respect of our viewers or
[3:19]for the respect of the guest i had seen myself that i
[3:23]was in a meeting with with a scholar a respectable scholar and
[3:29]he quickly opened the door but he went inside as he wanted
[3:33]to invite me he came with the hamama on his head to
[3:39]you know to take me inside the house and sit with me
[3:43]so usually wearing a turban uh which is uh you know the
[3:51]scholars tend to wear uh it is in order to show respect
[3:56]to the guests to the others uh so first i seek an
[3:59]apology for uh not being in my in my attire in my
[4:06]gear and the reason because i wasn't expecting it to be in
[4:12]this place this long but it happened the topic uh that we
[4:19]gonna be uh discussing tonight uh is uh uh intellect in the
[4:25]uh in the mirror of um understanding in the mirror of intellect
[4:32]one of the things that we need to differentiate it between marifat
[4:39]and [Music] which is understanding and rationality which is usually we find
[4:49]that rationality sometimes is considered as a synonym for understanding which is
[4:59]translated as marifat once again there is a difference of opinion when
[5:04]it comes to the definition of apple as well first the format
[5:10]of the discussion would be that i will be defining what apple
[5:14]is and then kind of looking into what understanding is uh in
[5:21]the mirror of apple now apple has an intellect um which is
[5:27]also translated as a reason um reason tend to have the weight
[5:36]of of of of rationale or rationality however from an islamic point
[5:43]of view is beyond rationality is beyond reasoning as such yes it
[5:49]can it contains or it includes reasoning and rationality however it is
[5:53]something beyond that now how is that why is that we're gonna
[5:58]look dissect that we're gonna look into that and one of the
[6:05]main problems that we face in having comprehension knowledge or understanding of
[6:14]higher forms of reality is because we are unable to define what
[6:20]apple is unable to define what intellect is that's the reason we
[6:28]face difficulties because marifat which is uh actually comes from knowing which
[6:38]comes from uh which we translate as understanding um tend to have
[6:42]uh principles that that is beyond rationality that is beyond reasoning as
[6:52]well reasoning in the sense of in the law in the logistic
[6:55]or logical sense as we talk about rationality and reasoning so now
[7:02]first and foremost apollo comes from ikal in arabic is usually uh
[7:09]the what you call the band that is placed in front of
[7:16]the eyes of the horse so that the horse does not deviate
[7:19]um you know from his path that is running that is going
[7:25]by approach of food or when he if the horse sees something
[7:32]that is of his interest or her interest so it will it
[7:36]will it will it will not deviate so they they tie a
[7:43]band in front of the eyes you may have seen in chariots
[7:45]or when uh you know when they ride a horse so that
[7:49]it doesn't deviate it stays on the path and it makes sure
[7:56]that the rider reaches its destination so that is ikal so aka
[8:00]tend to play that role apple will not deviate man from reaching
[8:07]its destiny from reaching its perfection from reaching its potential that god
[8:11]have placed in him so therefore an intellectual person an akel an
[8:17]intellectual person is someone who will not be deviated from reaching its
[8:23]potential from reaching its goal the same way as the horse have
[8:28]been placed ital on its eyes so that it reaches its goal
[8:35]so uncle is something that will guide us that will help us
[8:38]reach command reach perfection so apple tends to come from that root
[8:45]word from that meaning of okay now when we reflect upon the
[8:52]uh the reality of apple or what atlas the phenomenon of art
[9:01]itself we would find number of opinions a number of different definitions
[9:06]in regards to it as we all also know that um it
[9:13]is not easy to define as such because is beyond definition you
[9:20]know um you know you use the apple to comprehend and understand
[9:25]what apple is which itself may limit because the truth and reality
[9:34]of apple is beyond that from a philosophical point of view you
[9:38]know from an even logical point of view you know what i
[9:42]mean um so therefore a definition of intellect which is a material
[9:49]reality which is a metaphysical reality it is difficult for uh for
[9:56]for it to be defined because in the law of the definition
[10:02]is that a definition should be clear then the thing that is
[10:07]defined okay for example if you haven't seen a chair now i
[10:11]say chair but you will ask me what is chair right now
[10:15]i have to define what chair is so when i'm defining what
[10:20]share is my definition should be so crystal clear that when i
[10:25]define it you should be able to imagine and understand you have
[10:29]you should have the knowledge of what chair is right so definition
[10:34]should be clearer than the thing that is defined so but when
[10:38]it comes to arthur you know uncle is and is it's it's
[10:45]an absolute phenomena it's a reality that is that cannot be defined
[10:49]because apple itself is the most clearest thing that a particular individual
[10:55]can have so therefore to limit that to define that it is
[11:00]not an easy task okay just just does that in the margin
[11:03]now as we up now why why are we trying to discuss
[11:07]this you know we said that modified understanding in the mirror of
[11:14]intellect so we are trying to reflect upon what maharifa is through
[11:19]what through the mirror of intellect so it's like you know knowing
[11:23]yourself through the mirror you know when you put the mirror in
[11:28]front of yourself so you're trying to know yourself you're trying to
[11:33]understand yourself so mirror here uh is the apple right and my
[11:39]effort is the understanding is the knowledge so now when we put
[11:43]knowledge in front of the mirror we are trying to really see
[11:45]what my effort is from a intellectual from an ugly point of
[11:51]view now why why do you want to know this because there
[11:55]are certain principles there are certain realities which are beyond comprehension and
[12:04]understanding the mirror do not have that capacity and capability to reflect
[12:12]all which is modified for example right now you can only see
[12:19]me on your screen you are unable to see for example you
[12:22]know what color trousers i'm wearing am i wearing shoes or am
[12:28]i not wearing because your mirror is is does not have that
[12:30]capability to really reflect that however from the experience that you have
[12:38]in regards to you know human beings in regards to people clothing
[12:44]so on and so forth etiquettes for example you know you can
[12:51]imagine that yes you know i'm wearing a trouser you know not
[12:55]that i'm not you know this this usually happens now and when
[12:59]uh you know with the covid and everything being online you know
[13:04]we have these jokes circulating that even you know the prime ministers
[13:07]and the presidents you know they're just wearing a tie and a
[13:10]shirt and they're just there in their boxers you know when they
[13:15]are giving an interview right but obviously you can imagine that because
[13:20]of the experience that you have in regards to human beings one
[13:24]number two with the experience that you have maybe dealing with muslim
[13:30]people who have some de some sort of courtesy that they're not
[13:34]gonna sit without a trouser trouser like how some of these you
[13:41]know um politicians may do sit for example or other people miss
[13:44]it for instance right so you have some sort of experience with
[13:47]that then you can imagine so what i'm trying to say is
[13:51]that the the mirror that you have which we said we'll take
[13:55]that as an article does not have the capacity to display the
[14:01]whole thing in regards to me okay when in the physical sense
[14:07]it is unable to uh manifest it is unable to show the
[14:12]reality you know in the physical sense imagine in the manawi sense
[14:18]right as a priority it will be unable to reflect the monavie
[14:25]the enoughs of mind right when it is unable to reflect the
[14:30]physicality of me it is unable to reflect the nafs and the
[14:36]monavie and the spiritual aspect of mind yes you may be able
[14:41]to understand some of the you know intellectual or spiritual aspect i
[14:48]may have through my speech and you will say oh what a
[14:51]dumb guy you know what i mean but not to the maximum
[14:56]capacity that you would say that well he's a true loser he's
[15:02]a true duffer for example you know so what i'm trying to
[15:07]say is that the mirror which we said it's akel will not
[15:11]have the capability and capacity to comprehend what true marijuana is in
[15:18]the complete sense okay now i gave you an example which was
[15:23]something very basic right for us to comprehend and understand it does
[15:30]not need an intellectual argument as such to be presented to proof
[15:36]what i'm saying i have used basic argument that even a person
[15:41]a lay person who is not a philosopher who is not a
[15:48]theosopher right who's not a mathematician will be a will will understand
[15:51]what i'm saying from a very basic thing right okay based on
[15:56]our common sense right okay now i'll stop here so if mahdi
[16:02]is understanding then others are understanding too right because we are more
[16:07]interacting compared to other viewers i don't know right so is it
[16:11]is it is it clear so far it might be what i'm
[16:16]saying yes yes yes of course yes inshallah brews up a lot
[16:18]of questions that i can ask inshallah when you're done with the
[16:21]lecture itself inshallah okay now the second thing that we want to
[16:27]speak about this is because these days we have lot of intellectuals
[16:32]who come and criticize the marifati principles the science of understanding you
[16:42]know the knowledge and mahafat from their perspective from their intellectual capacity
[16:50]which they have okay they they criticize that like for example the
[16:55]question of the the the assaran for example you know you may
[17:02]have heard i'm not here to take names you know they are
[17:04]considered to be professors or doctors or or or or sheikhs and
[17:11]shuyuks and mawlana's who would say that oh you know the name
[17:17]of imam mahdi does not exist in the quran and it is
[17:21]beyond art you know that such an existence may exist so therefore
[17:26]we rest the case that he does not exist i'm just taking
[17:31]a an example of imam zaman however there are other things as
[17:34]well you know not just imam zaman but there are other issues
[17:38]that one may uh you know uh criticize that from any from
[17:43]an islamic or intellectual point of view from an islamic from their
[17:50]islamic point of view the reason i'm saying islamic is because they
[17:52]call themselves as muslim all right they they they claim themselves to
[18:00]be muslims and at the same time present these ideas or criticize
[18:06]these principles which are core for being a muslim you know which
[18:12]are core for being a moment okay so that is the second
[18:18]reason one is to understand that you know what is my effort
[18:22]and how much of uh marijuana can be reflected by our uncle
[18:26]by the mirror number two to basically uh bring to light these
[18:36]criticism of these scholars of these intellectuals of these professors that you
[18:45]know from what point of view and from what angle they are
[18:49]really criticizing these heavy core islamic values and principles okay that's the
[18:56]second reason finally the third reason of our discussion tonight is how
[19:02]can we improve our intellect how can we expand the mirror so
[19:10]that it could reflect mahadeva more or how can we clean the
[19:18]mirror of our ah that could reflect the light of marifa in
[19:23]a more precise manner so these are the three things that we
[19:26]want to cover tonight okay now first and foremost and i will
[19:32]be giving examples as well eventually in terms of the practicality how
[19:36]can we clear that and what will happen okay first and foremost
[19:41]now when we reflect in regards to allah also discusses this in
[19:51]jawada uh also discusses this in this is one of his texts
[20:00]that he wrote and allama in mizan also discusses this as well
[20:06]i'm making it very uh you know hola say making it very
[20:10]brief and turning into one pill so to speak so therefore the
[20:15]fault or the limitation in presenting this in a simple way is
[20:21]mine it is not our lama or it is not a javadi
[20:25]or any other scholar who have presented this idea okay now when
[20:29]we look at art we would find that there are four domains
[20:33]of article yeah four domains of or four different uh types of
[20:41]you can call i'm trying to make it simple okay when i'm
[20:46]making it simple obviously there will be some sort of criticism in
[20:49]making this simple why am i calling domain why am i calling
[20:55]types of art okay so if someone wants to kind of make
[20:58]this nitty-gritty you know criticism they might say that okay the usage
[21:05]of my words are not precise but i'm speaking to the masses
[21:09]i'm speaking to the lay person because i am a lay person
[21:12]myself you know i'm not a scholar as such you know that
[21:18]you may you know regard me as you know i'm just fulfilling
[21:23]my responsibility and my duty to the limited level i can now
[21:26]there are four domains okay the first domain i would call that
[21:30]as you know uh experimental art intellect based on experiments experimental ah
[21:44]taj you know that we will say in farsi what is ah
[21:49]target for example the water boils at 100 degrees period it is
[21:57]a sound intellectual statement the water boils at 100 degrees how do
[22:01]you know mr x that the or doctor x the water boils
[22:06]at 100 degrees the water boils at 100 degrees in england the
[22:10]water boils at 100 degrees in sri lanka the water boils at
[22:16]100 degrees on the equator the water boils at 100 degrees in
[22:20]antarctica as well we have seen from the experiment that we have
[22:23]carried out in different places of the earth that the water boils
[22:29]at 100 degrees period so therefore it is absurd if somebody comes
[22:36]and tells us that the water boils at 50 degrees or 120
[22:42]degrees because the temperature is very cold outside so so therefore the
[22:46]water is boiling at 120 degrees excuse me that is not right
[22:49]we have tested it and we know and the fact is that
[22:54]the water boils at 100 degrees that's a period cases end of
[22:56]the story that's it let's finish it and let's conclude that the
[23:01]water boils at 100 degrees why do you say that because of
[23:07]the alkal what type of apple the actual because of tajiru because
[23:11]of the experiments that we have carried out water boils and 100
[23:15]degrees now i would ask you this here is there a possibility
[23:21]that the water can boil at 100 at 90 degrees i'm not
[23:30]saying that it boils at 1990 degrees but i'm asking you is
[23:36]it possible or not possible that the water should boil at 90
[23:42]degrees is it possible or not possible i'm not saying 2 plus
[23:45]2 is 5 for example you know which is impossible for instance
[23:48]from a rationalistic logical point of view right or i'm not saying
[23:54]that the shirt i'm wearing is white and at the same time
[23:57]black that is impossibility how can something at the same time be
[24:04]white and at the same time be black that is impossibility okay
[24:07]right i'm not saying that i'm saying that is it possible that
[24:12]the water may boil at 90 degrees 100 years from now because
[24:17]of the ozone layer may have been gone you know it's experimental
[24:20]you know the possibilities are there you know it may boil in
[24:25]90 degrees we don't know 100 years from now it may because
[24:27]of the change of climate and situation so on and so forth
[24:32]right the element of water may change the possibility of a change
[24:36]does exist we have seen that in the past things have happened
[24:39]you know the but the the the birds are where from the
[24:42]family of dinosaur for instance it has changed nobody could have imagined
[24:48]that a dinosaur can you know become this little and fly as
[24:51]well you know in the course of time it has happened right
[24:54]so the possibility is there okay but so keep that the possibility
[25:02]in mind okay the possibility in mind i'm not it is possible
[25:04]it is possible from an ugly point of view from an intellectual
[25:09]point of view from the experiments that have taken place in the
[25:14]past and have changed the possibility of water boiling at 90 degrees
[25:19]exist i rest my case all right so but what but how
[25:26]i came to the conclusion that it boils at 100 degrees because
[25:30]of my experimental article which is called acrylic ruby all right number
[25:38]one one domain now number two second domain is the rational or
[25:43]mathematical article i would say okay mathematical apple which is you know
[25:50]through mathematics from small things to big things two plus two is
[25:54]four four plus four is eight you know the theorem was mathematics
[25:59]and calculations and through these calculations people used to even measure the
[26:05]height of a mountain okay they were for example in the past
[26:08]they had no like laser beaters laser gauges so on and so
[26:14]forth and they wanted to know what's the height of a mountain
[26:17]you know through little calculation they would say okay the height of
[26:21]the mountain is this and it is and it used to be
[26:26]that right and it is proven now because of these mathematical calculations
[26:29]the height of the mountain is proven to be right so it
[26:34]requires a mathematical mind a mathematical intellect to really come up with
[26:40]this understanding that that this this is how the things work and
[26:44]the conclusion is made and how you know that's what it is
[26:49]now a person who have a mathematical mind may not be able
[26:57]to fully comprehend what is experimental mind because he's a mathematician he's
[27:03]not a you know uh a scientist okay yes it plays a
[27:10]role when it comes to that intellectual richness and capacity you know
[27:14]that person has some sort of apple but his article is focus
[27:23]is not focused towards numbers so on and so forth okay so
[27:29]that's the second domain right now the third domain now when it
[27:35]comes to mathematics for example one may say that well you know
[27:39]you have mentioned that it is possible the possibility is there for
[27:44]you know for uh what you call uh to deny some of
[27:51]the experimental truths one can be denied how about in the domain
[27:55]of mathematics is there a possibility to deny certain mathematical truths well
[27:59]we have to ask a mathematician for that and you would find
[28:03]room in terms of you know in terms of discussion how this
[28:07]mathematical athletes utilize for example through mathematics we could define the age
[28:16]of the universe through mathematics we can define that the universe is
[28:23]expanding through mathematics we can it was a paper presented that the
[28:29]universe is expanding and it is going in a direction but what
[28:32]direction it is going do we know it it is going in
[28:37]a direction because everything is going in a direction so therefore in
[28:41]which direction the universe is expanding in which direction it's going through
[28:45]mathematics through calculations we can come up with that answer now these
[28:53]calculations could come out to be 100 sometimes these calculations although it
[28:57]is mathematics may not dictate the expansion and direction of the universe
[29:03]as such okay so there is a room over there to certain
[29:09]um what you call relative nature to a certain relative nature now
[29:16]that's the second domain or the second type of art then the
[29:21]third type of intellect or color that one may say is considered
[29:28]to so we have got the uh philosophical app the third one
[29:33]is the film so we have the taj rubi we have the
[29:37]in this a mathematical then the third one is philosophical now not
[29:42]everyone have philosophical mind because when you discuss philosophical theorems philosophical problems
[29:50]philosophical issues in front of a scientist who is dealing with you
[29:57]know viruses so on and so forth you say you know please
[29:59]don't waste my time you know i have to you know do
[30:03]these things in order to serve humanity you know i don't want
[30:07]to waste time with philosophy you know what i mean so a
[30:11]scientist may not appreciate philosophical article a mathematician may not appreciate you
[30:18]know scientific that you be experimental so the possibility of you know
[30:24]each other not appreciating or not understanding not comprehending what they are
[30:28]talking about do exist right however you know they would agree they
[30:35]would they would accept the fact however they would give the possibility
[30:37]however they would um how should i say uh you know uh
[30:42]consider and be appreciative you know towards that reality not in us
[30:51]that they will deny and be fundamental about that okay anyway not
[30:57]to get into that now let's talk about the philosophical now what
[31:03]is philosophical philosophical try to reflect and extract deduct understand um uh
[31:16]the reality you know as false philosophy is some is have to
[31:23]do with the existence you know the existence and it kind of
[31:27]deter what existence is define what is trying to define what exists
[31:32]in this try to define i'm saying existence once again you know
[31:37]in the reference uh go check out the first poetry of mullah
[31:41]in shariman zuma you will understand what i'm talking about just giving
[31:48]you a reference here right so therefore the philosopher will try to
[31:53]define reality understand reality what is so on and so forth right
[31:58]adam non-existence right you know cause illya you know causation right so
[32:03]that's a philosophical like for example i will give you an example
[32:08]you know the door which is the cabinet door for example right
[32:13]in the back you know have six different causes for this cabinet
[32:20]door to exist to come into existence a philosopher which when we
[32:24]look at the door you would say you say oh it's a
[32:28]cabinet door oh where did you get this from oh i got
[32:29]it from i don't know uh you know uh this company or
[32:34]that company you know russell hub or whatever company i got it
[32:37]from okay good no it didn't happen that way you know for
[32:45]a philosopher he would say that well the reason for that door
[32:48]to be there is because of the matter which is wood if
[32:54]there was no wood if it's a wooden door the door wouldn't
[32:56]be there so wood is one of the cause for the door
[33:01]to be there right yes that's the cause which is known as
[33:06]you know the the material cause of the door to be there
[33:14]then there will be the what do you call uh the call
[33:21]a letter suri which is the cause of the form the door
[33:26]has a form to it so therefore it requires a form so
[33:32]that is if if if the door doesn't have a form right
[33:35]if the carpenter doesn't know what door is how can he make
[33:41]a door he has a matter he has a wood but how
[33:44]can he make a door if he does not have the suri
[33:48]the phone in his mind what door looks like nowhere should be
[33:55]the handle right the hinges so on and so forth so therefore
[33:58]the requirement of a cause is a cause which is known as
[34:04]the cause as a form a lettuce theory is necessary for it
[34:07]number two number three in latify the carpenter must be there then
[34:13]the door came into existence the wood might be there the form
[34:17]you know procedure might be there but there's no carpenter to make
[34:24]it so therefore then there will be no door that is illate
[34:28]you know for example right the feel that the faily the carpenter
[34:33]must have the strength in order to do that right if he
[34:38]is a carpenter is there you know door material is there file
[34:43]is there you know surat is there form is there the carpenter
[34:47]is a weak carpenter you know he should have the strength to
[34:51]do that right you know you know that intention must be there
[34:59]carpenter there everything he does not have the intention to make it
[35:01]you know he should have the asm and intention in order to
[35:05]make the door then he will make the door finally you know
[35:08]like four causes we have talked about there are more to it
[35:13]but i'm making it very brief finally you have ella what do
[35:18]you call rawhi you should order the door mahdi needs a door
[35:23]he comes to the carpenter and he tells me that excuse me
[35:29]you know here's the door and uh you know i need one
[35:35]for my house for my kitchen or whatever right so the purpose
[35:41]must be there too i'm the carpenter the material there everything is
[35:45]there but nobody is ordering the door nobody needs a door there's
[35:48]no purpose for the door so if the purpose is not there
[35:52]the door will not be there so the purpose is needed as
[35:57]well so how am i coming to these different conclusions and trying
[36:02]to understand what causes because there are different types of causes right
[36:07]and once again the possibility in these causes will come into existence
[36:12]what about is it possible that a door can come without any
[36:17]without one cause you know what is that final cause which is
[36:22]the cause of all causes when all of these causes come together
[36:28]then that is the final cause itself then the door will be
[36:31]there if one of the causes is missing the final cause have
[36:34]not arrived right so obviously we are just talking about cause here
[36:40]there are other things too there's existence there's there's impossible existence there
[36:45]so this is what what which apple is trying to reflect on
[36:50]this and understand this this is actually huh this is a philosophical
[36:58]act now obviously when you will present this idea to a scientist
[37:02]you'll say don't give me a headache you know i just need
[37:04]a door i go i buy put it there okay you know
[37:09]but a philosopher will reflect on all of this right finally there
[37:15]is an apple which is beyond in safety which is try to
[37:34]comprehend mystical realities truth and philosophy try to understand existence the true
[37:43]nature of existence that's ugly it needs that funny to understand what
[37:52]imam is to understand for example the existence of god for example
[37:59]for example i will tell mahdi you were the one who joined
[38:05]the zoom first today even before for example you join you are
[38:11]the first to join for instance then after you i joined for
[38:17]example i am number two so if you are the first to
[38:27]join you are the first to come you have entered the room
[38:29]you are here you know you are the first now i tell
[38:32]you that matthew you're the first and you're the last two to
[38:38]join you'll be like excuse me you know absurd what i'm saying
[38:42]is absurd you know how can i be first and how can
[38:45]i be last at the same time it is impossible that i'm
[38:49]saying you came first and then after that some other person another
[38:52]person and then i said no you came happy again right this
[38:56]is really silly it doesn't make sense but my dear scholar but
[39:02]my dear professor but my dear the one who criticizes that imam
[39:07]mahdi does not exist in the quran or you know raises criticism
[39:12]in regards to know maybe you know in general period for example
[39:16]from any point of view not just in the quran is allah
[39:21]not first is allah not last how can allah be first and
[39:24]how can allah you know from a mathematical point of view from
[39:41]a rational point of view from a taj rupee point of view
[39:45]it doesn't make sense too you see what i mean so these
[39:49]are to really understand these metaphysical realities and that's where we are
[39:57]making a mistake that's where we are forgetting that shariat is a
[40:04]type of which is it is the legislative will of allah sharia
[40:12]islamic law yet sunnah is reflection of that divine nature of god
[40:21]which are which is a very masterpiece work about 90 years ago
[40:36]wrote this book i'm not mistaking it's been translated in english islam.org
[40:44]you will find a pdf something that i recommend to my dear
[40:48]brothers mahdi to you as well have this book read this book
[40:54]read the introduction of this book read this practices of rasulullah that
[40:58]are there you know now we are heading to the conclusion of
[41:02]the program you know how to improve the art that i have
[41:04]said but what i want to talk here and then i will
[41:08]open up for question and answer i don't know how much time
[41:10]is left right is that [Music] you know in the introduction of
[41:16]this [Music] discusses this there are four types of sunnah there are
[41:20]four types of in the society one based on superstition i'm very
[41:26]very very very briefly i'm not going into detail maybe we can
[41:28]discuss this in detail when we are doing question and answer if
[41:31]there is time there is by general people when you somebody does
[41:38]favor to you you should say thank you this is omumi everybody
[41:43]accepts this universal habits that are there universal sunan that are there
[41:49]they're sunnah based on superstition you know somebody sneezed i was about
[41:52]to leave i stopped i will not go why are you not
[41:54]going because you sneeze so my action is based on certain sunnah
[41:59]because he sneezed because a cat passed in front of me i'm
[42:03]not going to move i'm going to see because it's a bad
[42:07]woman it's a sunnah so my actions based on certain intellectual actions
[42:11]of the masses of the people of the norm that people that
[42:17]the intellectuals have accepted it to be okay so this you know
[42:24]based on superstitions based on general masses public people there's of the
[42:34]hakeem of the wise ones at night do not have a banana
[42:37]somebody comes and offers me banana he said please have mawlana banana
[42:42]at night no samurai why because it's in the tim the hokama
[42:47]the wise people the chinese wise people the native american wise people
[42:52]they have spoken about this and they don't practice this way so
[42:57]i my actions the way i'm behaving the way i'm using my
[43:00]article my intellect to have that is on this finally there is
[43:08]sunanei sunan of the prophets from adam this is disclosed to the
[43:19]prophets how to act how to behave how to sleep how to
[43:21]eat how to drink how to shariya is the highest level these
[43:26]are disclosed from where disclose from the right disclose the reality of
[43:33]god the intention of god what allah wants what pleases him so
[43:39]through this practice we are learning what pleases we are learning the
[43:45]nature of god through shariat sharia is not for practicing as such
[43:49]you know maybe they will kick me out what type of mawlana
[43:53]sheikh is not for practice you can't say you know no it
[43:57]is our practice but the true reality of sharia is the nature
[44:02]the what is the will of god what is the substance of
[44:07]this way what is the beauty of this i'm trying to understand
[44:12]the will of allah by practicing it it's like you know swimming
[44:17]in the ocean of the beauty of allah that's what shariat is
[44:23]we should not take shariat as something that is very harsh but
[44:28]it is beautiful it is an ocean of the in our day
[44:32]of allah when i am practicing that when i am practicing the
[44:37]sunnah how prophet slept how prophet eight how prophet what it is
[44:41]knowing that beauty of god anyway i'll stop here now uh i
[44:46]i would like to give conclusion i don't know we have time
[44:50]or not but please let me know maybe i'm sorry i speak
[44:53]too much sometimes no no it's a very good discussion that we're
[44:56]having uh uh this inshallah i do have a few questions that
[45:00]have been sent in insha'allah if you can conclude that we can
[45:03]ask those questions before the time runs out insha'allah so shall i
[45:06]give a conclusion and then we go for questions yes yes if
[45:09]you can okay very very briefly now you know um how much
[45:15]time for the questions we have because i want to give a
[45:18]point in the end yeah so we have 10 minutes left in
[45:21]the webinar uh so inshallah you know we might not have you
[45:25]know time to answer all the questions uh but of course you
[45:28]know i will always keep them safe and shout out next time
[45:30]you're here we can ask them the next time soon so now
[45:34]see conclusion is that you know when we have these four apple
[45:38]right the final is the aqua erfani which is the mystical aqua
[45:45]which tend to comprehend that and that article is actually you know
[45:50]increase or expanded because the nature of that is is that knowledge
[45:59]that allah places in the heart of whomsoever allah desires you know
[46:05]he went to a certain limit beyond that it couldn't go so
[46:12]if we say that apple if we say that the applause reached
[46:21]to a point after that rasulullah went his heart went that's the
[46:28]era you know which where the hazard you know prophet muhammed he
[46:33]would say or allah increase in my knowledge but at the same
[46:36]time the prophet will say or allah increase in my hair in
[46:41]my astonishment that astonishment is the mysterious reality that is that that
[46:48]is needed to understand that which is beyond you know um it's
[46:54]a lifelong journey it's a lifetime journey so now for those who
[46:57]criticize on based on their akl they say that this doesn't make
[47:03]sense the quran talks about yahood the quran talks about this but
[47:06]quran does not talk about this is really strange for me or
[47:11]other things that they talk about for instance when it comes to
[47:14]sharia when it comes to quran when it comes to you know
[47:19]infallibility all of these you know divine inspirational principles which our scholars
[47:27]have tailored have arrived upon because of their sincere practice and they
[47:34]arrived upon this universal truth universal truth that's a term as well
[47:40]which i don't want to talk about right now you know universal
[47:44]truths in terms of the perennial philosophy so on and so forth
[47:47]i don't want to get into that but universal reality and truth
[47:50]that infallibility is a universal concept it is not a shi concept
[47:56]as such but it is something that these scholars because of their
[47:59]purity have arrived upon it which you know perhaps you know scholars
[48:05]of you know at the time of imam sadiq may not have
[48:08]understood in that sense the way it has been you know uh
[48:13]presented today so i would stop here then in last one minute
[48:16]inshallah i would like to when i say khodra qadhafi i'll mention
[48:20]one more thing okay inshallah thank you so much uh just quickly
[48:23]you know getting to the questions of course a reminder that this
[48:26]is a recurring webinar every monday at 6 00 p.m so if
[48:30]i do miss your questions today uh inshallah we'll ask him the
[48:32]next time we have uh the first question is uh in regards
[48:37]to ugly and understanding and comprehension of something that is metaphysical uh
[48:40]dear sheikh and of course you know uh a lot of people
[48:43]do struggle especially in this day and age a lot of youth
[48:47]struggle to understand the metaphysical side of islam you know the divine
[48:50]side of islam so how can one clear up their mind in
[48:52]terms of understanding that very good question this is something which i
[48:58]wanted to mention in the conclusion and that is see there is
[49:04]we we cannot deny metaphysical reality right uh it's it's it's out
[49:15]there and what it requires is the uh the practice the repetition
[49:20]of certain things which opens up the physical reality and makes us
[49:25]enter the metaphysical reality reputation is something that has based on the
[49:31]experimental up based on the mathematical act based on the philosophical arc
[49:37]based on the er funny apple we have seen time and time
[49:39]again that this continuous reputation that perpetual uh struggle of knowing the
[49:49]reality you know that one should have and must practice for example
[49:54]when we look at the hindu traditions the reputation of the mantras
[49:58]which opens up the heart and takes us to the higher form
[50:02]of reality we see and we find that in the islamic tradition
[50:08]as well where you have the zikr where you have the reputation
[50:10]where you have five daily prayers where you have the sunnah where
[50:14]you have the quran right you know all of these we have
[50:18]to take this seriously okay and this is something that if we
[50:22]don't discipline and if we don't take serious it's just gonna be
[50:27]a lip service you know it's just gonna be uh you know
[50:33]wasting of time yeah yeah we may be able to have some
[50:37]sort of uh satisfaction to certain extent that oh i'm a muslim
[50:42]and i believe in quran i believe unless we practice okay uh
[50:47]and and uh it i mean it's good at least if that
[50:53]is there you know and if this belief take us till the
[50:58]time when our beard becomes white meaning that we come closer to
[51:04]death and then we say it's about time now let's start practicing
[51:08]you know so even that is good as well so what i'm
[51:10]saying to the question is that we have to practice our article
[51:16]the mathematical we have to practice the experimental alkal we have to
[51:21]practice the philosophical action we have to practice so that the in
[51:28]the eruphani article opens up the way the irfani apple will open
[51:35]up will descend in our heart that noor will descend in our
[51:39]heart that comprehension and understanding will descend in our heart is through
[51:43]the practice of our anger through the mathematical that we need to
[51:47]practice we need to be practical about philosophical athletes sharia so on
[51:53]and so forth then the time comes for the mystical atom to
[51:55]descend that will happen it's a fact it will happen asan thank
[52:01]you so much just if you can briefly answer this question because
[52:05]we are running out of time and inshallah you can conclude and
[52:07]we can wrap up the webinar is that of course you know
[52:09]everyone has different capabilities of understanding and allah has given different levels
[52:15]of uh ad to different individuals so how does one how is
[52:19]one judged in the hair after does allah judge them equally in
[52:23]like a spectrum or is each individual judged by himself or herself
[52:27]here i would be a bit a bit uh how shall i
[52:32]say different in answering this question what are you talking about judgment
[52:37]okay you know judgment means it is the end of things you
[52:43]know you are judged at the end of the exam and then
[52:46]after that exam is over this is a journey my dear brother
[52:50]it is no such thing as judgment as such there is judgment
[52:55]you know i'm not denying that qiyamat is there judging is there
[52:57]allah will judge and from a theological point of view yes allah
[53:02]will judge according to our you know he's rahman and raheem and
[53:06]he will that's why he will not even judge according to our
[53:09]uncle yes even when he will judge he will judge out of
[53:13]his mercy out of his fast lake you know we ask allah
[53:17]they know allah judge me because out of your fascists not be
[53:20]added if we judge with our other we are in trouble okay
[53:25]so that is there but what i'm trying to say here is
[53:28]that there is no uh it's a continuous journey you know what
[53:34]i mean and this our apple there are certain things i may
[53:40]not comprehend and understand now but when i enter bazaar i will
[53:44]have a higher form of understanding now from us once again what
[53:49]we have to ask is that allah increase my knowledge allah increase
[53:53]my heart allah we have to ask that allah expand my heart
[54:02]to comprehend your beauty expand my heart so that i know you
[54:08]so that i love you so that i feel you so that
[54:12]i understand you and that is possible through elevating salam huh that
[54:16]is possible yes i sense inshallah if you can conclude the conclusion
[54:21]that you wanted to say and then we can wrap up the
[54:24]webinar yes that's what i was saying you know in terms of
[54:25]the after like as the questions were in the same direction that
[54:29]how we can improve how i can accomplish and understand and open
[54:33]our third eye the eye our heart our eye you know is
[54:36]because you know we find this universal truth that are there that's
[54:43]metaphysical reality and truth that are there you know like for example
[54:47]imam al-assad is a universal reality been accepted by all faiths okay
[54:53]you know in terms of hinduism in terms of you know natives
[54:58]in terms of christianity you know i was just speaking to some
[55:01]of the youth here when we were discussing about carbina you know
[55:05]it's one of the classical uh poetry of fortuna you know which
[55:10]is a classical band as well carmina burana if you look it
[55:13]up you know i can speak about this because i'm not wearing
[55:17]a mama so i can openly speak just kidding right so uh
[55:20]you know if you look at that the whole poetry is talking
[55:25]about fate it's talking about destiny and that is the victory of
[55:29]light over darkness that's what it is right and the point is
[55:35]that these universal truths are out there and we've been provided with
[55:40]the most precise understanding of this light through quran through and if
[55:48]we implement and practice that then our apple will be crystallized our
[55:54]apple will have that comprehension our heart will have that that expansion
[55:57]that is capable of downloading reflecting you know on on these realities
[56:03]eternal realities that will always be there inshallah yeah assad thank you
[56:09]so much for enlightening us with your talk today uh dear from
[56:12]allah bless you and i hope that the viewers were able to
[56:15]learn as much as i was and of course for those who
[56:18]are attempting their questions but i was unable due to time i
[56:21]will keep these questions with me inshallah the next time we have
[56:23]shaykh mezah here i will ask him and i'll bother him then
[56:27]as well insha'allah so thank you again so much may allah bless
[56:30]you and i hope to see you again very soon uh so
[56:33]for me the thank you
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