18. Umar threatens to burn the House of Fatima (as) | Sayed Ammar Nakshawani | Holy Ramadan 2024

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[1:20]Lord master of all the worlds and peace and blessings be on

[1:26]All His prophets and especially the final Prophet the prophet Muhammad s

[1:35]my respected brothers and sisters's threats towards the house of can be

[1:47]seen in a number of books in early Islamic literature indeed for

[1:53]some who are not brought up in a Shia household they probably

[1:57]would have never heard of such a claim or indeed would have

[2:00]never heard of such a thing being referenced in any lecture or

[2:05]indeed in any discussion but you find that there is this incident

[2:14]that occurs after sakif as we had seen in the previous nights

[2:18]that there have been two camps that emerge after sakif one is

[2:27]the camp of Abu Bakr Omar abua and so on and those

[2:30]who come forward as the camp who want to push forward theaa

[2:38]of Abu Bakr by ensuring that a pledge of allegiance is given

[2:41]especially by the other Camp the other Camp being the camp of

[2:47]Imam Ali the camp of Zu the camp of Salman and Abu

[2:52]Talha is also in this camp mad's in this Camp so you've

[2:58]got a lot of known names amongst the mun who I have

[3:01]just listed who have a major difference of opinion when it comes

[3:08]to Authority some will say that yes we accept this but we

[3:13]do not accept that om threatens to burn the house of because

[3:20]on the first level this would shatter the Sunni world view which

[3:27]is that is seen as a second rightly guided C in the

[3:32]Sunni world view on the first level they'll say that she is

[3:36]the daughter of then on the second level those who know their

[3:41]literature will say that she is so now if there is such

[3:47]a situation and you were to ask anybody today this question that

[3:50]if Omar is proved to have threatened to burn the house where

[3:59]f is sitting where Imam Ali is standing where IM Hassan and

[4:05]IM Hussein are sleeping what would you then conclude about Omar this

[4:13]of course brings about a back and forth this particular incident the

[4:19]Sunni rejects the Shia narration and the Shia come forward very clearly

[4:25]with their opinion and reject the Sunni arguments in defense of Omar

[4:30]and this brings us to an important point no one thing my

[4:36]dear brothers and sisters that in reality whether you're Sunni or you're

[4:41]Shia every incident that we've looked at and all the incidents that

[4:45]we'll look at in the future a person can never be 100%

[4:49]objective when they're examining these incidents there's always some subjectivity involved if

[4:57]you're a Sunni you can never say that I have an objective

[5:02]standard for verifying truth and if you're a sh the reality is

[5:06]that you canot say that none of your beliefs have an effect

[5:11]on the way that you examine literature if any Sunni in the

[5:17]world today comes and says that I want to look at an

[5:20]incident objectively the reality is there will always be some sort of

[5:24]subjective angle in the way they look at that incident on the

[5:28]most basic basic level if I've been brought up in a household

[5:32]where all the of are promised Paradise on the most basic level

[5:39]not even on the scholarly level then when I see an incident

[5:44]that automatically becomes something by which I judge the narration in front

[5:51]of me say for example that you are a scholar and that

[5:56]you believe that you have a framework built on for example a

[5:59]verse like that the foremost of the companions are the migrants and

[6:13]the helpers and those who follow them in goodness Allah has pleased

[6:17]with them and they are pleased with what Allah promises them if

[6:22]that is something that I use when I examine any incident I

[6:27]have to try and find a way of explaining that incident in

[6:32]relation to that particular verse it no longer becomes objective becomes subjective

[6:39]why because the way now that I will view these incidents will

[6:47]be based on either a verse in the Quran which sheds light

[6:50]for me on the companions of alai or maybe a Hadith for

[6:55]example if I have a Hadith about the companions that my comp

[7:01]iions are like stars they are your guides if I look at

[7:08]that Hadith then when I'm going to look at an incident where

[7:12]threatens to burn the house of then what do I do with

[7:17]the verse that I have and the Hadith that I have automatically

[7:20]then I am not someone anymore who objective I have also got

[7:28]a framework that I have developed and that I use that framework

[7:33]in looking at any incident say for example amongst the scholars were

[7:39]those who believed that the sahab are that means that whenever a

[7:47]sahabi does something it comes down to his inad if your is

[7:50]correct you get rewarded and if it's incorrect what happens you might

[7:54]get less of a reward but what happens is that I superimpose

[7:59]now this framework onto any incident that I see and this by

[8:08]the way occurred in early Islam when it occurred in early Islam

[8:11]how did it occur it occur with the fact that you'll see

[8:17]that there were certain people because they were Pro because they were

[8:26]known as because they supported Alid revolutions because they were known to

[8:30]praise IM Ali ahead ofman only ahead ofman not ahead of Abu

[8:37]bak and Omar they done of IM Ali ahead of straight away

[8:40]there was less chance of a Hadith being taken from such people

[8:46]irrespective of whether there was authenticity or not why because already that

[8:51]person has affected the objective framework that I've built supposedly objective but

[8:57]in reality become subjective even within the Sunni World those when they

[9:04]examine Omar's threat on try and give you their examination based on

[9:11]a framework that that individual has developed that individual whatever framework that

[9:20]individual has developed they will give you that framework not all Sunni

[9:27]Scholars will come to you with the same framework of who who

[9:30]they view as reliable and who they don't view as reliable and

[9:33]then what does that mean that means the moment you show somebody

[9:36]one of these opinions he'll say I don't take that scholar I

[9:39]take another easy way to get out and there's no longer an

[9:45]objective standard for example if I see Dar for example does not

[9:49]take Froman because was who was one of the haters of IM

[9:55]aliam is a renowned Sunni scholar but he will not take the

[10:03]narrations of whereas author of theah takes narrations from both are Sunni

[10:11]but look at their subjective Frameworks that one of them says I

[10:17]will take from so and so another you know what that literally

[10:18]means so when you're having a discussion with someone if he knows

[10:21]that you know what I need this Scholar's opinion on this issue

[10:25]let me use him now but the other one I don't really

[10:27]need him now but I'll use him another time when the sh

[10:32]offer a particular argument Abu for example may use Abu as reliable

[10:40]May reject ABB is a Sunni scholar is a Sunni scholar true

[10:46]but both of them when it comes to narrators one may pick

[10:51]somebody the other May reject that means when someone comes and tells

[10:55]you let's look at something objectively the reality and I'm going to

[10:58]be very Frank about this the reality is whether you're Sunni or

[11:04]you're Shia when you look at a narration you already have a

[11:08]framework either because of where you were raised or because of your

[11:15]scholarly conclusions or because you know enough variances in opinions you have

[11:19]a framework to know who to use when to use and how

[11:23]to fit in what suits your framework so when someone says to

[11:29]you show me a narration on this issue I reply according to

[11:36]whose standards because you could easily turn around his understanding or's understanding

[11:43]or bukari do you take from or you don't take from are

[11:50]you going to accept all Traditions will you take the morel tradition

[11:55]all of them may come with their own framework on these issues

[12:04]and then tell you show me according to you you have a

[12:06]particular framework I can show you someone in a Sunni mosque 15

[12:09]minutes away from you who has a completely different framework in the

[12:12]way that they study ath ultimately then someone says then how can

[12:20]we develop some sort of objective framework one of the ways is

[12:23]that if I find that there are certain incidents which are narrated

[12:27]not just in my school but in other schools so I'm not

[12:32]being biased now I'm saying that there are incidents they are in

[12:35]mine and in others they bring me a certain amount of certainty

[12:43]or contentment this is a vital point before I go into the

[12:47]literature On's threat to burn the house of when I look at

[12:54]these incidents can I say that I will definitely as a sh

[12:59]reach a 100 % conclusion where I have certainty y that this

[13:05]is what happened to the house of in its particular meaning there

[13:17]is no way that I can have 100% C because I was

[13:18]not there in Medina on that day obviously true I was not

[13:23]there even now when it comes to there are some aspects of

[13:30]I cannot say that I met alai and I have 100% certainty

[13:33]that said this and this either I go towards y in the

[13:42]general meaning which is there's enough Traditions across the board to give

[13:50]me certainty sometimes people used methods of learning such as ta if

[13:59]AI was like for example or you will say that it's been

[14:04]narrated too many times for it to be a scam for it

[14:05]to be a lie was I there at no I was not

[14:10]there was I there when happened in when the prophet said no

[14:18]but I have enough certainty reached that this incident could have taken

[14:25]place even though the finer Parts I may not have reached is

[14:34]virtually impossible in many areas of life is more possible then I

[14:42]can go on to contentment can also be a level of Knowledge

[14:49]from there I move on to other worlds of knowledge such as

[14:54]and and and those and those who have studied all of these

[14:56]areas whether in or whether in will know that ultimately when I

[15:02]come to study Omar versus f i as a sh will put

[15:09]my hand up to say that I was not at the incident

[15:15]no chance but I may reach a level either of or of

[15:17]because of corative evidence that something sworded has taken place to the

[15:26]house of cuz I've seen sometimes our people when even we can

[15:32]fall into that trap when we're giving lectures in F we can

[15:34]fall into this trap where sometimes I'm talking as if I was

[15:40]there true I was not there so then someone will say to

[15:44]me how are you so certain I say certainty number one y

[15:50]has levels I saw those cameramen in front of me today I

[15:56]have y 100% I saw the people me I may come through

[16:01]other angles and other variables where I'm saying not just in my

[16:06]Shia literature but in Sun literature When I See Clearly there are

[16:13]companions who would not give to Abu Bakr when Sak happened clearly

[16:16]there is a group of companions who have gathered in the house

[16:21]of clearly the companions are not United and there isn't consensus on

[16:29]the legitimacy of Abu bakr's kalaa and then I begin to open

[16:35]more literature about the burning of the House of at the minimum

[16:42]I reach that something sorted happen to the house of B every

[16:52]sh scholar throughout history every single one believed that a threat happened

[16:59]to the House of f z someone says yes but there are

[17:06]some Shia Scholars they don't believe every Minor Details if you go

[17:11]to your average sometimes you hear some M saying that F was

[17:14]slapped F was kicked fat zah was punched fatat zah have all

[17:22]the scholars agreed on these Minor Details Bit by Bit And when

[17:26]I say minor I mean in terms of the different aspects of

[17:31]the not necessarily have scholars in some cases reached on some of

[17:40]these contentment yes have others reached a certain level of Y on

[17:46]them yes have others come to a level just below yes but

[17:49]100% of all of them believe definitely threatened to burn that house

[18:03]read their Works in relation to whether you go to the Shafi

[18:13]whether you go to the whether you go to any of their

[18:14]Works read their discussion on what the unanimous opinion and the school

[18:18]of is that they go as far as the broken rib of

[18:27]but what's you unanimous amongst the Shia from then till today is

[18:33]that there was a threat on the house and a threat to

[18:38]burn the house of fat why was there this threat to burn

[18:41]the house of fat zah for what reason was there this threat

[18:47]amongst the reasons was of course that a newly formed government has

[18:52]emerged and that government believes that there is a militia group have

[18:59]weapons who are plotting something in someone's house therefore they have the

[19:04]right to go and knock at the door of that house where

[19:08]did we leave yesterday we left atab everybody come here we all

[19:12]left here atab all of you could see written by AB ABD

[19:20]abdah immed when we came over here my dear brothers and sisters

[19:23]we came it was published 2022 as you could all see translated

[19:28]by who translated by Abu ha published Al all of you saw

[19:36]yesterday that when it came to the section on the pledge of

[19:40]the allegiance to Imam Ali what did the Hadith say and some

[19:45]men from the mun became angry regarding the pledge of allegiance to

[19:54]Abu Bakr and amongst them were alali and Zu Ali and Zu

[20:00]have become amongst the group who are angry come back so they

[20:03]both entered the house of F zah and they had weapons with

[20:07]them so Imam Ali naturally goes back to the house of his

[20:10]wife his cousin Zu is with him there are others who are

[20:14]now in that house then Omar came to them along with a

[20:17]group of the Muslims amongst them were and and these were from

[20:22]and it is said that amongst them then one of them took

[20:24]the sword of Zu and struck a stone with it until the

[20:29]sword broke so already we have when I'm trying to look at

[20:36]this objectively I'm seeing that ahmed's son Abdullah is the same person

[20:43]who's narrating that there's been a fight taken place on the first

[20:47]visit to the house of a fight has taken place that shows

[20:53]us that when I say the first visit it means that the

[20:58]house of FAA because it was was the center of operations of

[21:02]the opposition movement there must have been a number of visits to

[21:06]that house sometimes people assume that there's only been one visit to

[21:12]the house of and that was it no at the moment we

[21:14]have a visit directly after s to the house of after s

[21:24]has already decided that it doesn't matter if is in them IMI

[21:40]IM Ali is amongst those who did even that as an objective

[22:11]framework comes back to subjectivity why how many of them are the

[22:13]ones that we refer to as the ones who are definitely the

[22:16]highest of the companions what number of them are we talking about

[22:20]what levels are they to be graded in who is higher than

[22:26]who from amongst them no problem all I see now is that

[22:28]when the Sunni argument says the M they are the ones who

[22:34]left meca to look after's message you sh disrespect them I say

[22:38]had no problem disrespecting them had no problem disrespecting the m so

[22:49]why do you live a life of worship of the M when

[22:55]has no problem having a blatant punch up with a and remember

[23:00]in the Sunni World never forget this point the 10 who are

[23:08]granted Jenna Abu Baker Omar Ali and Zu four of them and

[23:10]they're having a punch up and the lady who owns Jenna it

[23:17]happens to be in her house what do you present to non-muslims

[23:21]if non-muslims read this the non-muslim if they read this they'll say

[23:26]wait so f is the one who owns Jenna you say yeah

[23:29]yeah f owns Jenna yes she say it in go okay and

[23:34]Muhammad's closest ones are having a punch up in her house say

[23:39]yeah say so you want me to join that religion hold on

[23:41]did your Prophet not give you instructions what to do because it

[23:44]seems a mess but no this is where you suspend why because

[23:49]you go back to subjective not objective you come back hold on

[23:55]my worldview sah anyone who says that there's a FNA between them

[23:58]we do not take that person's Hadith anyone who insults the sah

[24:01]no way Ahmed even reaches a stage where he goes like this

[24:03]if anyone comments badly about the sahab I see here that fatat

[24:17]Z's house the first time it's been visited there's a fight what's

[24:20]there to stop more violence later every Muslim agrees that died 6

[24:31]months after and in certain parts of sh literature we talk about

[24:35]her dying for example 2 and a half three months after irrespective

[24:38]she dies at a young age there's already her house which when

[24:45]he used to walk past used to say salams oh people of

[24:51]the house now her house has become the house of violence between

[24:55]the closest to Muhammad sallallahu alaihi Al someone said saidar yeah okay

[25:00]listen a punch up happen swords are broken so on and so

[25:02]forth I can I can understand that but where does it mention

[25:09]anything about burning come with me over here everyone look at this

[25:16]the history ofari one of the most famous Sunni Scholars lived a

[25:23]thousand years or more so for volume 11 no volume 9 the

[25:29]last years of the Prophet peace be upon let's use tar let's

[26:32]see what he says because I don't want to superimpose my worldview

[26:35]on this let's see what tari says come here with me tabari

[26:40]begins here by saying the an gathered in a roofed building sakif

[26:46]when we talk of roofs in thei community we say sag in

[26:53]a roof building of the to render their oath of allegiance to

[26:59]this news reached Abu Bakr so he came to them with Omar

[27:02]and asking them why they had gathered the ansar have gathered they

[27:10]replied let us have a ruler from amongst us and another from

[27:14]you Abu Bakr then added I am pleased to offer you one

[27:18]of these two men listen you people you want to have a

[27:22]ruler from you and a ruler from us which clearly shows that

[27:24]the early Sunni opinion wasn't that Abu Bakr is the because the

[27:27]ANS of have no interest of appointing him as the main ruler

[27:32]he say a ruler from you and a ruler from us let

[27:36]us have a ruler from us and another from you abak said

[27:41]the rulers will be from us and the W from you Abu

[27:42]Bakr said no no I have my worldview now my theory ruler

[27:47]from us you guys can be you know when you when you

[27:51]want to set up an operation you're like you know what my

[27:54]cousins you guys you be on the Board of Trustees but you're

[27:58]not CEOs I am pleased to offer you one of these two

[28:03]men Omar or AB some people came to the prophet ask him

[28:06]to send a trust trustworthy man with them the messenger of God

[28:09]said that he would send a truly trustworthy man with them and

[28:14]he sent AB I'm pleased to offer you abua Omar stood up

[28:17]saying who amongst you would be agreeable to leave Abu Bakr whom

[28:22]the prophet gave precedence Omar is the flagbearer Alamar for Abu Bakr

[28:29]he is the one who's saying how could you leave Abu Bakr

[28:34]when rasool has given him precedence and you know what kills me

[28:37]about these lines if you were to list all of the precedents

[28:41]of Abu Bakr and all of them of IM Ali Alam I

[28:45]guarantee you there's more for but there's no need for Ali let's

[28:48]move on Ali's too young and he gave him the oath of

[28:51]Allegiance the people followed Omar the ansar said or some of them

[28:56]said we will not give the oath of allegiance to any anyone

[28:59]except Ali they're choosing a leader we all agree the an are

[29:13]choosing aad Sak abak and abua the triumphant they come Omar says

[29:20]you know what it should be Abu Bakr Abu Bakr offers Omar

[29:23]so you see there's no clear you see if it was clear

[29:26]as day then straight away everyone would be like you know what

[29:28]rol had made it clear no no Omar says abak abak says

[29:33]Omar the ANS are like actually n Only Ali come back here

[29:44]the ansar said we will not give the oath of allegiance to

[29:50]anyone except Ali why why not Abu Bakr Abu Bakr was in

[29:56]the cave Ali was announced at Abu Bakr was the father-in-law ofas

[30:04]s IM Ali was the son-in-law Abu Bakr was the first adult

[30:09]convert we go with this Imam Ali was the first young convert

[30:18]what next Abu Bakr was in the cave in Hijra Imam Ali

[30:22]was sleeping in the bed of s Al on the night ofra

[30:28]what else IM Ali and the Brotherhood pairing between muhaj when the

[30:37]muhaj took a brother from the an took him IM Ali is

[30:39]to the prophet like Aaron was to Moses IMI is the one

[30:48]for and and all the other merits I can name one by

[30:53]one and I can continue giving lists the reality is that for

[30:55]the ansar they said we will not give the pledge of allegiance

[30:59]to anyone but When someone tells me you sh you've raised Ali

[31:03]I said no no no no no no no no it was

[31:07]me who raised Ali a day after Allah died his own ANS

[31:11]was saying it was Ali come here read this came to the

[31:31]house of Ali and some of the M were also in the

[31:34]house with Ali Omar Cried Out by God either you come out

[31:41]to render the oath of allegiance to Abu Bakr or I will

[31:46]set the house on fire let's come back read it again om

[31:58]AR came to the house of Ali and some of the M

[32:04]were also in the house with Ali Omar Cried Out by God

[32:05]either you come out to render the oath of allegiance to Abu

[32:11]Bakr or I will set the house on fire you know I

[32:19]remember one Sunni scholar he was like he wasn't going to do

[32:23]it he just threatening you like the prophet would threaten someone he's

[32:29]just threatening I don't know about you and I don't know about

[32:35]people's psychological Tendencies but when someone's telling me I'm going to burn

[32:37]your house I get worried do you agree you agree or no

[32:43]when someone says I'm going to burn your house I'm going to

[32:46]set the house on fire but I might only be joking I'm

[32:52]going to set your house on fire but I'm just threatening you

[32:58]what's the first thing would do I'd go to police straight away

[33:02]would you agree the problem is the police are now's oldest enemies

[33:08]the are now the police the ones whose dads were killed by

[33:12]Ali are now the police no problem no problem no problem let's

[33:17]relax here a little bit and enjoy this says I will set

[33:22]the house on fire so you as a Muslim have no problem

[33:27]with Omar saying that I'll set Ali's house far house on fire

[33:30]because you're the same one who says I love don't you how

[33:32]many comments do you write where you say we love as well

[33:37]it's not just the Shia we love we love we love how

[33:43]about someone who's ready to burn the house where are gathering what

[33:47]would you say about them you say you love the companions of

[33:51]what if you have a choice between Abu Bakr and Omar on

[33:55]one side T and Zu on the other who' you pick you

[34:00]see that wasn't really a dilemma for you at sakif at jaml

[34:03]it became the biggest headache for you you can't hide what happened

[34:08]at jaml because your companions were ready to fight each other and

[34:11]shed each other's blood come back came to the house of Ali

[34:25]and some of the M were also in the house with Ali

[34:26]Omar Cried Out by God either you come out render the oath

[34:31]of allegiance to Abu Bakr or I will set the house on

[34:36]fire as zuar came out with his sword drawn if you ever

[34:39]wanted to look at the myth of the ultimate decency of all

[34:43]the sah of look at Zu versus Omar with the sword fights

[34:45]as zuar came out with his sword drawn as he stumbled upon

[34:49]something the sword fell from his hand so they jumped over him

[34:52]and seized him sahaba all best friends correct I'm the one who's

[35:02]crazy I'm the one to be insulted for my intelligence and here

[35:18]it continues on the next page come here they demanded confirmation of

[35:25]the oath but Ali and Zu stayed away Al as zuar drew

[35:26]his sword from the Scabbard saying I will not put it back

[35:32]until the oath of Allegiance is rendered to Ali so what do

[35:38]I become or of Abu Bakr what do I become because you

[35:41]always tell me that Islam shouldn't have been divided into sects I

[35:43]didn't divide into sects I held on to the man chosen it's

[35:47]those who oppose him who made sects for years the sh that

[35:54]you are a sect and Allah does not like sects there no

[35:58]sect here we held on to Zu even did even did Sal

[36:02]AB certainly did the sect is the one that is ready to

[36:08]raise their swords and burn houses that's not what I'm joining I

[36:14]stick to Islam without sects and that's where else if we look

[36:22]over here at this interesting work you'll see again threat to burn

[36:32]the house of it's not some random sh reading which the sh

[36:36]made up you want to disagree with me it's up to you

[36:40]w listen you have your grave I have mine you have your

[36:43]I have mine you have your intentions I have mine you have

[36:47]your objectivities and subjectivities and so do I have mine but you

[36:50]cannot deny that is such an early text even earlier is this

[36:58]one here everybody body please look at here of who of we

[37:04]look over here the man died literally 200 years and just above

[37:11]200 years um aftere we come over here we see that once

[37:21]again we have this narration if you come my dear brothers and

[37:25]sisters over here Hadith number 37,000 and 34 that's some M huge

[37:35]Hadith numbers you know 37034 okay page 400 at the bottom over

[37:40]here my dear brother sisters come to the bottom page 433 okay

[37:47]um we've got this duration here Muhammad bin bisher um from and

[37:56]then it continues um even in one narration I remember seeing so

[38:05]this Z bin Aslam and his father Aslam of course these people

[38:13]are people who um bukari would take narrations from Comfortably that he

[38:16]would say for example here if you go back Zade the son

[38:21]of Aslam Aslam from his father okay Zade B Aslam and then

[38:25]Zade um from his father Asam bukari would take from uh Aslam

[38:31]quite comfortably just in case someone wants to question the validity of

[38:35]whether Aslam even met I remember reading if I could just go

[38:40]toi I remember reading within bukari this interesting part over here um

[38:48]where it had looked at the fact that buari would take from

[38:53]him directly from come back here please so we're here onah alkari

[39:02]the translation of the meanings ofah alkari Arabic English volume 6 a

[39:07]Hadith 4474 to 5062 all of you could see it when we

[39:13]come here to page 437 I just want to verify the chain

[39:18]of this narration which we're about to see Omar threatening to burn

[39:22]the house the most beloved House of the daughter of Al and

[39:26]someone might ask that you know ZB Aslam is it connected to

[39:31]say zlam from his father Aslam narrating and here B actually uses

[39:36]him if you look over here page 437 you'll see 12th the

[39:41]chapter of the super superiority ofth number 5012 so here I have

[40:06]that chain which I've looked at the isad of this Hadith zlam

[40:10]from his father Asam [Applause] and so Islam has this access direct

[40:18]because someone might say that these could be reality is there's a

[40:24]reason these areah now remember if we play this clip if you

[40:27]don't mind um clip number one very clearly howman Kam actually had

[40:37]questioned this part about whether Aslam could be used whether Z bin

[40:43]Aslam even had access to Al we see here zlam and then

[40:50]from who from Aslam very clearly being used inkari from the words

[40:55]of is inly in his denial of what's happened with himself tries

[41:02]to pose this question that no such thing even existed let's play

[41:06]the clip for so he tries to escape from this by saying

[42:09]that you know where is the connection of this chain of Zade

[42:14]toam herei says that Asam directly toam so here we have quite

[42:31]a connected chain enough for us to call itah let's come back

[42:34]to see what exactly it says my dear brothers and sisters says

[42:38]over here and what would they do so Al Imam aliam and

[43:00]Zu when Abu Bakr had been given the they would what they

[43:04]would go to the house of and they would discuss what was

[43:11]happening when was told this when heard this he came towards and

[43:22]he said to her very interesting lines quite uh interesting how he

[43:30]goes from one extreme to the other listen to this he says

[43:59]that oh FAA no one is more beloved to us after your

[44:04]father than you no one's more beloved to us than your father

[44:13]but if these people continue to gather in this house then what

[44:19]will I do look at it very clearly here is a swearing

[44:27]by Allah that by that I will make sure that the order

[44:41]is given nothing will prevent me to order that the house is

[44:44]burnt over you and she has to go back and says to

[44:54]them she has to return to them and she says that to

[45:10]me she said that has sworn that he will burn over this

[45:17]house meaning that has sworn that although you we love your dad

[45:24]and we love you after your dad more than anyone but if

[45:28]this continues to happen then we will burn the house over you

[45:38]firstly people say to me why do you people do the house

[45:47]of the daughter of has got people who are threatening to burn

[45:53]it's after died this is the beginning of the against was what

[46:01]was the conclusion but here in this piece of literature not written

[46:09]800 years after s alai nor written a thousand years afteru alaih

[46:14]but rather written 200 or so years afteru alh died around the

[46:22]time just after even bukari and Muslim that period clearly Omar in

[46:28]his words with f who had already said fa is a part

[46:32]of me whoever angers her angers me is blatantly saying that we

[46:40]will burn over the house someone said to me it didn't say

[46:44]we'll burn the house we'll burn over the house I don't know

[46:47]like uh mathematically speaking you burn inside or outside there's major problems

[46:50]do you agree I'm sure there's major problems irrespective so what's the

[46:54]argument that the Sunni offers argument that the Sunni offers either will

[47:00]come from a door that you know what in my framework and

[47:03]you know each of the Sunni Scholars out there and all of

[47:07]those who will comment on all of them has his framework Abu

[47:13]M me yes him no him yes me no him yes me

[47:17]no this one him yes me no each one of them has

[47:21]their framework they play with you according to the framework they want

[47:24]to use for that issue today I am not going past 300

[47:32]years afteru Al has died when it comes to our literature looking

[47:35]at the burning of the House of when people say why do

[47:38]you I'm remembering the and the against that a few weeks earlier

[47:47]had said I leave behind for you the Quran and the brothers

[47:50]and sisters say no no he didn't say Quran and he said

[47:55]Quran and I ask you to look after myit what's that what's

[47:57]that that's looking after is that what you're proud of really that's

[48:03]looking after again another early text and this will be the last

[48:12]of the text that I will use today I don't want to

[48:14]go into B and I don't want to go into other of

[48:18]the early text that I could go into to show you that

[48:22]I'm using non texts that discuss the burning of the House of

[48:25]f all of you come here please this book is of course

[48:35]of the famous poet writer almed Muhammad known as Al who also

[48:43]died 328 so he was alive from about 2 uh 46 after

[48:50]Hijra till about 328 after so he was alive around the time

[48:56]of imar okay so we're talking Rel relatively early he blatantly opens

[49:02]up on the discussion concerning the burning of the house and you

[49:07]will see over here that this is the fifth volume yeah all

[49:14]of you can see here just in case some Shia out there

[49:18]say that you know at the end of the day why do

[49:21]we remember what happened with f became the symbol of the opposition

[49:28]to the newly formed sect of Islam that left the pure path

[49:31]of alali and his sh who were the followers ofu that's why

[49:38]we honor F come here the year 2013 published printed in Lebanon

[49:44]Edition fourth All of You Could See Clearly here come with me

[49:49]very early in the book to page 13 this section here these

[49:56]are the people who did not give to Abu Bakr the image

[50:02]is always been given that everybody gave you will see that there

[50:07]are a list of those Ali these were the ones who did

[50:17]not give to who to AB because they were gathering there Abu

[50:33]Bak sends Omar so you've got this order of either Abu Bakr

[50:40]sending Omar there or Omar sending people there or Omar going there

[50:44]what's important for us to realize is that already the government has

[50:50]no limits to what they're willing to do against Ali and Fa

[51:02]they want them to do what they want them to get out

[51:09]of the house of get out you don't get out we're going

[51:13]to burn this house now imagine someone wants you out of that

[51:17]house and if you don't get out what they going to do

[51:20]to the house a government wants you to get out of the

[51:26]house the house is repossessed you are all to be arrested whatever

[51:28]different criminal charge if you don't get out what's the government going

[51:33]to do smash the house down do you agree smash the door

[51:37]down or no if you're not answering we're going to smash the

[51:41]door down he sent to get them out of the house if

[51:51]they don't get out of the house then fight them this is

[52:00]no this is no no no no no where is this we're

[52:15]talking 200 years or so 250 years after died when the majority

[52:23]of these books begin to emerge buari Muslim Abu all of them

[52:27]from the end of the second century until the end of the

[52:29]third century and then all of these if they don't get out

[52:41]of the house fight them how do you fight them I tell

[52:43]you if I tell you listen if those guys don't leave the

[52:47]house fight them they're not leaving what you going to do to

[52:51]the house what are you going to do so he wanted to

[53:02]come with that fire he's come with that fire towards the house

[53:14]oh son of you have come to burn our house Quran in

[53:29]Surah 24 verse number 27 what does the Quran say oh you

[53:33]who believe don't enter people's houses other than your own house until

[53:38]you sought familiarity permission and saluted the people of the house this

[53:43]is best for you normal people's houses before I go inum there's

[53:55]a way to talk how about the great house the house of

[54:01]FAA Omar comes with fire says oh son of you've come to

[54:10]burn the house our house he said yes or unless or you

[54:16]enter what the rest of the umah has decided to enter in

[54:20]meaning unless you give B to Abu Bakr and then it continues

[54:32]and so on and so forth which then goes on to of

[54:37]course the narration that Imam Ali went and he told Abu Bakr

[54:39]that the only reason I haven't given you is because of a

[54:43]promise that I made to the prophet to compile the Quran even

[54:45]though the contradictions are r one minute it was straight away next

[54:53]minute was 6 months later after died said im here seemingly it's

[54:56]on another incident the contradictions are Al but suffice for us my

[55:02]dear brothers and sisters to see that we will burn the house

[55:08]is a threat that Omar made that some do not deny but

[55:11]they say it was just a threat threatened for example they say

[55:17]when he said even if my daughter F stole I would cut

[55:22]off her hands but does that mean he'd do it firstly I

[55:25]don't even want to take such a Hadith not interested in it

[55:28]but secondly when someone threatens to burn my house there's a major

[55:34]issue with that person if it was a normal human being living

[55:37]in 2024 who's a Muslim who may be facing difficulties I'll say

[55:43]there are Muslim humans make mistakes and so on when you're doing

[55:50]it against IM Ali and say then you have to answer Allah

[55:58]subhah waala for what you went ahead and proceeded with and if

[56:03]they don't then fight them but make sure that they pledge what

[56:08]the others pledge Allah subhana wa ta'ala knows what's happen in that

[56:15]house Allah knows who threatened that house with fire Allah knows F

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