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[0:00]My name is Rebecca Masterton and I'm an academic.

[0:05]I got my doctorate in [music] 2006 and I have been researching

[0:10]the shei path since even before then from [music] around 2003.

[0:16]I'm interested to [music] know how the mission of Hussein Ali peace

[0:22]be upon him his journey from Medina to Kufa [music] and then

[0:26]to Kbala has been understood from an academic perspective.

[0:31]also have the question about uh Imam Hassan's capitulation to Mawia because

[0:41]this is often seen as uh or you know his his treaty

[0:44]that he drew [music] with Maawya is seen as a sign that

[0:49]he condoned Mawia uh as a as a leader.

[0:53]He [music] condoned his rulership.

[0:53]Um but in fact, you know, we know that he drew up

[0:58]certain conditions within that treaty that were broken [music] and that he

[1:03]most likely also knew that these conditions would be broken.

[1:06]>> So what what in your opinion uh what was the reason

[1:11]why this treaty was was was drawn up?

[1:14]Um, do you think Imm Hassan like I mean [music] it's my

[1:20]opinion that he he knew that Ma wasn't going to stay with

[1:21]these conditions?

[1:22]Um, but I don't know if that's correct or [music] whether he

[1:25]actually genuinely sort of was attempting some kind of >> Well, we

[1:30]have these these [music] um personalities in early Islamic history.

[1:33]>> Yeah.

[1:34]And sometimes they do things which seem [music] counterintuitive from a a

[1:42]a historian's [music] perspective.

[1:43]And in some ways, you know, uh Imam Hassan abandoning his claim

[1:50]to the leadership of the Muslim [music] community seems counterintuitive.

[1:56]uh his personality may not have been um just as a a

[2:05]someone who [music] was purely interested in political gain.

[2:07]You mean there may have been a number of other things which

[2:10]um controlled his [music] actions or contributed to the way in which

[2:15]he which he oper which he acted and amongst those would have

[2:20]been the desire [music] for community unity.

[2:21]>> The need for um to prevent a uh to prevent internal

[2:26][music] strife.

[2:28]Um uh encouraging the the the virtue of patience.

[2:32]um all of these things maybe [music] have been part of the

[2:36]motivation if you like for his actions >> um from a historian's

[2:40]perspective we can't look into his mind but what we have is

[2:43]sources which hint at the sort of person he was >> and

[2:47]the reasons [music] why he might have acted in particular ways >>

[2:50]I think that's a good point because you're you're you're pointing [music]

[2:52]out u and this is I think what we do pick up

[2:55]um as you say from the actions of a lot of

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