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Night 24: Are Imams Higher or Prophets? | Sayed Mohammad Baqer Qazwini | Ramadan 2024
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[0:01]I begin in the name of the almighty God, the compassionate, the
[0:09]merciful, the one who has created everything in utmost perfection.
[0:13]And may the peace and blessings of the Almighty God be upon
[0:19]his pure and beloved messenger, the peak of his creation, the symbol
[0:27]of humanity, the holy prophet Muhammad Samuhammed and his immaculate progeny of
[0:39]the B peace be upon them, especially the leader of our time,
[0:44]the awaited savior here.
[0:47]May Allah hasten his reappearance and make us all amongst his sincere
[0:54]and dedicated servants.
[0:55]Respected brothers and sisters, Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala states in the holy
[1:05]Quran in Bakar verse 253.
[1:11]Three.
[1:34]In this blessed verse, Allah subhana wa ta'ala states those messengers we
[1:41]favored some of them over others.
[1:45]Some of them Allah subhana wa ta'ala spoke to that was a
[1:52]privilege and that is Musa.
[1:53]Some of them Allah gave them special signs and Allah subhanahu wa
[2:01]ta'ala chose prophet Isa to aid him with to aid him with
[2:09]the holy spirit.
[2:12]Illuminate your hearts and minds with a loud salawat.
[2:24]There is a very important and sensitive discussion in our belief system
[2:29]and theology about the status of the imams of B peace be
[2:35]upon them with respect to the status of the prophets of Allah.
[2:40]And many people ask this question.
[2:48]Are the imams of B higher in status and rank than the
[2:50]prophets of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala?
[2:53]I acknowledge that this is a very sensitive discussion.
[2:57]As for our brothers from Sunnah, this is a discussion that they
[3:04]completely reject.
[3:04]They do not accept that any of the imams of B would
[3:09]have a status higher than any prophet.
[3:13]Whereas when you come to the B school of thought, you find
[3:18]that many of our scholars believe that the imams of B peace
[3:23]be upon them, they do have a status higher than all prophets
[3:30]except prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi [Music] But this is definitely a sensitive
[3:38]discussion.
[3:39]Now some people say why is it that we even discuss this
[3:45]point whether they are higher in rank than prophets or not.
[3:48]That's not really something fruitful.
[3:50]That's not something beneficial that we need to discuss.
[3:54]The response to that is that this is a completely legitimate discussion.
[4:02]We want to have an academic discussion to better know the status
[4:08]of if we can prove with evidence that the status of the
[4:11]imams is higher than the status of the prophets that allows them
[4:14]to appreciate their legacy more.
[4:20]This brings us closer to the legacy of these aren't ordinary individuals
[4:25]that we simply are inspired by just like you'd be inspired by
[4:29]anyone out there.
[4:29]They are chosen by Allah subhana wa ta'ala.
[4:33]They are infallible and they have reached the highest status any human
[4:38]being can ever reach.
[4:42]It's perfectly legitimate to have this discussion.
[4:45]But before we have this discussion and we present the evidence that
[4:51]scholars have cited to substantiate the idea that the imams have a
[4:59]higher status, I will share with you two very important points.
[5:02]The first point is that when we discuss whether the imams have
[5:07]a status higher than the prophet sallallahu alaihi we definitely are excluding
[5:13]prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi from this discussion.
[5:15]We don't want anyone to come out and say look at the
[5:19]Shia they say their imams are higher than prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
[5:23]wasall that is an act of deviation and I say this with
[5:26]clarity if there is any Muslim who believes any of the imams
[5:31]has a higher status than prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi that is deviation
[5:37]and lalal no one comes close to the status of prophet Muhammad
[5:41]sallallahu alaihi we make this very clear.
[5:45]One day, according to a hadith that we have in the book
[5:51]of Alafi, a Jewish scholar came to see Im Ali.
[5:57]He asked the imam a question about Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
[6:03]He told him, "When did your Lord exist?
[6:10]When did he come into existence?" Listen to the response of the
[6:17]Imam told him, "Woe upon you." Woe upon you.
[6:28]What kind of question are you asking?
[6:30]When did he not exist so that it could be said when
[6:36]did he come into existence?
[6:37]Allah was always there.
[6:38]He's above time.
[6:40]He has no beginning.
[6:42]It doesn't make sense to ask when did God start existing.
[6:44]He was always there.
[6:45]He's above time.
[6:48]When something didn't exist, then it existed.
[6:51]You can rightfully ask when did it exist.
[6:54]But when something has always been ever existing above time, you can
[6:59]never ask such a logical question.
[7:01]Then the imam told him, "My Lord existed before the beginning but
[7:13]without a beginning and he will exist after the ending without an
[7:17]ending." Look at the words of then he says Allah will not
[7:26]terminate and there is no conclusion or end to his eternity.
[7:28]He is severed from termination.
[7:29]So he is the end of every end.
[7:34]This Jewish scholar was so flabbergasted by the response of he told
[7:43]him are you a prophet because only prophets can speak like that.
[7:47]I see the knowledge of prophethood exuding from you.
[7:51]The imam told him woe upon you.
[8:02]Woe upon you.
[8:04]Don't call me a prophet.
[8:04]I'm a slave from among the slaves of Muhammad.
[8:08]These are the words of Alisam.
[8:12]There is no doubt that the greatest creation of Allah subhana wa
[8:17]ta'ala is prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi.
[8:20]So when we have this discussion, we are not talking about our
[8:23]beloved prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi.
[8:25]This is an intellectual discussion about the status of the imams of
[8:31]B compared to the status of other prophets.
[8:34]That is the first very important point.
[8:36]The second point, those who say, "What's the point of discussing this?"
[8:41]At the end of the day, they're all imams, they're all prophets,
[8:44]we love them, we follow them.
[8:45]No need to have this discussion.
[8:47]The Quran has a similar discussion about prophets.
[8:53]Therefore, if this is a fruitless discussion, if this is an unproductive
[9:01]discussion, the Quran would not have the following discussion on prophets.
[9:04]When it comes to the prophets and messengers, we see that the
[9:08]Holy Quran presents us with two types of verses.
[9:13]The first type of verses, we have two, tells us that there
[9:20]is no difference between the prophets.
[9:22]They're all equal.
[9:22]They're all the same.
[9:27]For instance, Allah states in Bakar verse 136.
[9:31]Do you want to be a believer of Mu?
[9:35]Say the following.
[9:36]I believe in Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
[9:39]Every scripture that Allah has sent down to us, we believe in
[9:45]it.
[9:58]Say, I believe in everything that was revealed to these great prophets.
[10:06]Then the Quran states, We do not make a distinction between any
[10:13]of these messengers.
[10:15]We don't separate between them.
[10:16]We submit to Allah subhana t and accept all these messengers.
[10:21]This is one verse in the holy Quran.
[10:23]So someone can say look if the Quran is saying all prophets
[10:26]and messengers are equal, we don't make any distinction between them.
[10:32]Then why are you dis discussing the imams and the prophets and
[10:39]who's higher?
[10:37]This is a valid question.
[10:42]The response Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala responds to this question in Bakar
[10:47]verse 253.
[10:48]What does Allah subhanaa tala state inah verse 253?
[10:57]The same Quran that tells you don't make a distinction between the
[11:03]prophets and messengers tells you some messengers we have favored them over
[11:08]others.
[11:10]For those who know Arabic, you know what means it means better
[11:15]of a higher status.
[11:16]Allah is telling us in the Quran, I have favored some messengers
[11:21]over others.
[11:22]They're higher.
[11:23]They're better.
[11:23]And then Allah gives us the example of Musam.
[11:26]Allah gives us the example of Isaam.
[11:30]So how do we reconcile between these two verses?
[11:33]Is there a contradiction in the Quran?
[11:35]On the one hand say there is no difference between them.
[11:39]But on the other hand, the Quran says no, there is a
[11:41]difference.
[11:41]I have favored some of them over others.
[11:44]There is no contradiction in the Quran.
[11:47]The verse that tells you don't make a distinction between them.
[11:51]It means accept all of them as messengers of Allah.
[11:54]If you don't believe in some prophets, you cannot be a Muslim.
[11:59]You can't choose to believe in one prophet and reject another prophet.
[12:03]They're all sent from Allah.
[12:04]They all have a message from God.
[12:05]So, you have to accept all of them.
[12:09]And this came as a response to other religious groups who rejected
[12:15]some prophets like the Jewish people.
[12:18]The Jewish people believe in most prophets but prophet Isaam they rejected
[12:22]his prophethood.
[12:22]In fact they called him an impostor and they tried to kill
[12:27]him.
[12:27]But to be a true believer you have to believe in prophet
[12:30]Isa as well.
[12:31]So that's what the verse means.
[12:34]Don't make a distinction between them.
[12:37]Believe in all of them.
[12:37]But then once you come to the prophets themselves at an individual
[12:41]level, of course they had special characteristics that Allah gave them that
[12:48]was not shared with other prophets.
[12:50]Allah gave prophet Isaam virtues and Allah distinguished him the same way
[12:56]he distinguished prophet Ibraimisam the same way he distinguished prophet Musa Alisam.
[13:01]All the prophets and messengers are not equal.
[13:06]Some of them excelled more.
[13:07]Some of them had a higher status.
[13:09]Some of them had a deeper level of sincerity towards Allah subhanahu
[13:15]wa ta'ala.
[13:14]We apply the same concept in the Quran to our discussion.
[13:19]We believe in the imams.
[13:22]We believe in prophets.
[13:22]We're not here trying to stir any controversy.
[13:25]But this is a valid discussion.
[13:27]When it comes to their virtues, who had a higher status?
[13:33]Just like the Quran tells us some messengers were favored by Allah,
[13:36]we say there is evidence that Allah favored theam and he gave
[13:42]them a status above the status of many prophets and messengers.
[13:46]So these are very two important points before we now examine the
[13:54]evidence.
[13:51]So what evidence now do we have to demonstrate that the status
[13:57]of the B is higher than the status of prophets?
[14:00]Let's have an academic discussion here with evidence.
[14:04]The first one, my dear brothers and sisters, is captured from Bakar
[14:09]verse 124.
[14:11]Allah subhana ta speaks about the trials of Ibraim.
[14:15]What is the highest status that prophet Ibraim ever achieved?
[14:22]What does Allah tell us in verse 124 of Bakar?
[14:26]Allah subhana ta states Allah tried prophet Ibraim he completed those words
[14:40]meaning he completed the trial of Allah subhana wa ta'ala after he
[14:45]completed the trial what is the reward that Allah gave him what
[14:49]promotion did Allah give him Allah said I have now appointed you
[15:01]as Then I im question.
[15:03]Prophet Ibraim when he got promoted to Imam was he already a
[15:12]prophet or not?
[15:12]How do we know he was already a prophet?
[15:15]Because someone could say yes say it.
[15:18]Initially after he completed that trial he became an imam.
[15:23]Then he became a nbi.
[15:23]Then he became a messenger.
[15:26]Then he became a khal.
[15:27]So you can't tell me that im is higher than prophethood because
[15:33]maybe initially he became a leader and I im made him a
[15:35]prophet.
[15:36]If someone gives you this objection, how do you respond to that?
[15:42]We know that prophet Ibraimisam was already a prophet because during which
[15:48]time in his life did Allah promote him to the status of
[15:55]imam?
[15:56]when he was young or when he was old.
[15:58]How do we know that he was old?
[16:01]Because when Allah gives him the status of im oh Allah any
[16:08]of my children are going to get the status that means he
[16:13]already had and he already had children.
[16:16]And when did prophet Ibraimam have children when he was young or
[16:20]when he was old?
[16:21]When he was old.
[16:22]The Quran tells us alhamdulillah he says oh Allah I thank you
[16:32]that you gave me while I achieved an old age.
[16:35]So we know that prophet Ibraim was already a prophet he was
[16:38]already a messenger.
[16:40]He was already a khalman.
[16:41]So when Allah subhana wa ta'ala promoted him to the status of
[16:46]Imam, we automatically know that the highest status a human being can
[16:51]ever achieve is what?
[16:51]It's the status of im.
[16:55]That's the highest level that you can reach.
[16:56]Because if he was a prophet and Allah is giving him the
[17:00]status of im, Allah is not demoting him.
[17:03]Allah subhana t is promoting him.
[17:05]He's giving him a promotion.
[17:06]Now I've declared you as an imam.
[17:08]Now you're worthy of being an imam.
[17:11]That in itself, my dear brothers and sisters, sets the tone for
[17:17]this discussion that the highest level any human being can ever reach
[17:21]is what?
[17:22]Is the status of imam.
[17:23]Not profitthood.
[17:23]Prophethood is not the highest status that you can reach.
[17:27]Messengerhood is not the highest status that you can reach.
[17:32]It's im the highest status that you can reach.
[17:37]And the evidence verse 124 of surah Bakar that is the first
[17:41]piece of evidence out of the 12 that I will share with
[17:47]you tonight that will demonstrate Im is the highest level and that
[17:50]the imams of B had a higher status.
[17:53]Let's come to the second one.
[17:54]The second piece of evidence is one mentioned in all Muslim books.
[17:59]It's mentioned in Bkari and it's mentioned in our sources.
[18:05]When Sharif reappears, he will reappear from Mecca and then he will
[18:14]march north towards Medina.
[18:15]He will liberate the city of Medina.
[18:17]Then he goes norththeast to Iraq.
[18:20]He will establish his government in Kufa.
[18:24]After the Imam establishes his government in Iraq, the Imam marches west
[18:30]towards Palestine.
[18:31]Now the Sufyani is ruling Syria at that time according to our
[18:36]hadiths.
[18:36]He tries to stop the Imam because the Sufyani has an alliance
[18:39]with the evil ones and the occupiers of Palestine.
[18:42]So the Imisam has a powerful army.
[18:47]He's aided with by Allah subhana wa ta'ala.
[18:48]Sufyani realizes it's not wise to mess with him.
[18:51]So he makes some sort of agreement with the Imam and he
[18:56]allows him to pass from Iraq to Syria to get to Palestine.
[19:00]The Imam arrives Jerusalem.
[19:03]It's on a Friday according to our hadiths.
[19:07]Now imagine the world is watching what's going to happen.
[19:10]The Christian world is watching.
[19:12]They're about to mobilize their forces because now the Mahi is in
[19:15]Palestine.
[19:16]He's in Jerusalem.
[19:18]They don't know what's going to happen.
[19:21]A global war can break out any second.
[19:23]Bkari tells us here what what happens.
[19:27]I want to read to you the actual text of Bkari from
[19:30]the prophet sallallahu alaihi and this is hadith 3,449 3449 in Bkari.
[19:36]What does the prophet say in Bkari?
[19:46]Muslims, how do you feel?
[19:49]when the son of Mary will descend on earth and the imam
[19:55]who's going to lead the prayer is from you Muslims.
[20:01]The imam is a Muslim.
[20:02]Bkari confirms that Isaam will pray behind immedi from imbalam.
[20:12]They say that on that Friday when prophet Isa will descend and
[20:19]the hadith says he will look like prophet Ibraim he will walk
[20:27]up to the mi ali out of humbleness he tells him who's
[20:34]bat lady and what does batul mean the pure one who's cut
[20:39]off from any sin or any uncleanliness it's also One of the
[20:42]titles of lady fat and Imi refers to Isa with this name
[20:48]with this label.
[20:51]Oh son of Batiam lead us in prayer.
[20:56]Out of humbleness he does that.
[20:59]What does do?
[21:00]He puts his hand on the shoulder of immedi and he tells
[21:07]him and oh the son of the messenger of Allah you have
[21:09]a greater right to it.
[21:12]the prayer is yours.
[21:13]Stand and I'll pray behind you.
[21:16]We'll stand in prayer and Jesus will pray behind him.
[21:20]This proves without a shadow of doubt that the status of the
[21:23]MAI must be greater than the status of Isaiam.
[21:26]Because if Jesus has a higher status, it would be inappropriate for
[21:30]him to pray behind immedi.
[21:33]If you have someone who's higher in status, a prophet of God
[21:36]here, and the salah is about to be performed, who's going to
[21:39]lead the prayer?
[21:41]Of course, the one who has a higher rank.
[21:45]So that demonstrates that the status of imi is higher than the
[21:48]status of prophet Isa.
[21:51]And we know that Im Ali, I im Hassan, Im Hussein, they
[21:53]have a status greater than the Mahi according to our traditions.
[21:59]And that proves that the or at least some of the B
[22:01]they have a status higher than some of the great messengers of
[22:07]Allah.
[22:06]By the way that same hadith from the imams that tells us
[22:11]he will pray behind him.
[22:12]It also states that in the government in the government of Al
[22:21]Mahi prophet Isa will be a minister.
[22:22]He's going to be what?
[22:25]A minister.
[22:26]Now I ask you if you have someone who's the absolute ruler
[22:29]and someone who's his minister and aid who must be higher in
[22:32]status.
[22:33]If prophet Isaam has a higher status he should be ruling and
[22:39]Im ali should be his minister.
[22:41]But the fact that Jesus will be the minister of immedi that
[22:46]indicates Imi must have a higher status.
[22:48]This is the second piece of evidence that we can use to
[22:56]demonstrate this point.
[22:55]The third one and you're all familiar with this one.
[23:00]When the prophet sallallahu alaihi went to debate the Christians of Najan,
[23:05]he brought his family with him and he then the Quran refers
[23:08]to Im Ali as what?
[23:12]To the prophet.
[23:15]The Quran considers Im Ali the self of the prophet sallallahu alaihi.
[23:21]So if the prophet has a higher status than other prophets, Im
[23:24]Ali Alisam also has a higher status than other prophets.
[23:30]That is the third clue or piece of evidence.
[23:31]Number four, this one is really fascinating and interesting.
[23:36]Many of the great prophets of Allah when they turned to Allah
[23:42]and they were seeking the intercession because for instance they made a
[23:48]mistake they forgot the oath of Allah subhana wa ta'ala when they
[23:54]made when they sought when they sought whose shaf did they seek
[23:59]I will share with you two hadiths from Sunni sources if you're
[24:05]familiar with the Look at Alman.
[24:07]It's one of the most important Sunni works of by is a
[24:17]famous Sunni scholar of the Quran and he has a work called
[24:28]AD.
[24:24]In volume one pages 60- 61 of this he mentions two hadiths
[24:32]from the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam.
[24:36]These two hadiths are explaining verse 37 of Bakar.
[24:41]Prophet Adam when he came down to the earth and Allah took
[24:47]him out of that garden he cried for many years and he
[24:50]repented.
[24:51]The Quran tells us Adam received words from Allah.
[25:02]After he said those words, Allah forgave Adam.
[25:05]What were the words that prophet Adam said?
[25:10]This is not a Shia book.
[25:13]My dear brothers and sisters, this is a Sunni book of in
[25:18]this hadith that this book mentions.
[25:23]The prophet sallallahu alaihi was asked what are these words that Adam
[25:28]said such that Allah subhana wa ta'ala forgave him in this hadith
[25:33]the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasall said these are the words he said
[25:37]Allah told him to say oh Allah I ask you in the
[25:48]right in the status of Muhammad and al- Muhammad and the family
[25:52]of Muhammad.
[25:56]There is no Lord but you.
[25:59]Oh Allah, I've oppressed myself.
[26:00]Forgive me.
[26:01]The prophet says when Adam said these words, Allah forgave him.
[26:12]even is more specific with what Adam says.
[26:16]These are the words of Abdman.
[26:19]Oh Muhammad, are you higher in status or mus?
[26:25]He's asking who?
[26:27]Our beloved prophet sallallahu alaihi wasall the prophet sallallahu alaihi tells him
[26:32]it's not appropriate for one to praise himself.
[26:35]I don't want to praise myself but since you've asked I'm going
[26:38]to answer you.
[26:40]My status is greater than prophet MS and prophet N and prophet
[26:44]Ibraim and prophet Isa all of them.
[26:45]He told him why.
[26:47]The prophet sallallahu alaihi wasall told him because when was in the
[26:51]ark and he was about to drown he turned to Allah and
[26:54]he saidham oh Allah save me through Muhammad and al Muhammad and
[27:08]he told him when Musam took the stick and it turned into
[27:13]a snake and he was struck with fear as the Quran tells
[27:15]us he ment mentioned my name and my family and Allah subhana
[27:20]wa ta'ala cast his fear away and he goes through all these
[27:24]prophets how they mention the prophet and his family and then the
[27:28]prophet tells the Jewish man and he tells him and my grandson
[27:33]the mahi Isaam will pray behind him.
[27:36]So we find that this fourth piece of evidence is many prophets
[27:42]seeking the was of the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi and his family
[27:49]and that indicates that the they have a higher status.
[27:51]Let's now come to the fifth piece of evidence.
[27:55]I'll ask you this question.
[27:58]The Quran, when you put it next to the Bible or the
[28:04]Torah, which is superior?
[28:05]They're all books from Allah.
[28:09]The actual books are all from Allah.
[28:10]Sure, changes have been made to the Bible and the Torah.
[28:13]They're all scriptures.
[28:15]But which book is superior?
[28:17]The Holy Quran.
[28:18]How do we know that?
[28:21]The Quran says when the Quran compares itself to other books, the
[28:26]Quran says, The Quran is superior to these other scriptures that Allah
[28:33]sent.
[28:33]It's the best scripture that Allah sent for humanity.
[28:36]So this is established that the holy Quran has more knowledge and
[28:41]more virtues than the Bible and the Torah.
[28:44]Now those previous prophets, they had the knowledge of their books.
[28:50]Prophet Isa had the knowledge of the Injil.
[28:50]Prophet Musa had the knowledge of the Torah.
[28:54]Come to the Quran.
[28:57]who had the full knowledge of the Quran.
[29:04]The Quran says it's sufficient to have Allah as the witness for
[29:11]the prophet sallallahu alaihi and the one who has the full knowledge
[29:15]of the go to the books of from the one who has
[29:20]the f the full knowledge of the ism Ali.
[29:23]So if I im Ali has the full knowledge of the Quran,
[29:26]his rank and his knowledge is higher than prophet Mus and prophet
[29:29]Isaam.
[29:31]And that is the spirit of when the prophet said I leave
[29:38]behind me two heavy things the Quran and my family and they
[29:40]shall never separate.
[29:43]If the never separate from the Quran, you automatically know they must
[29:47]be the greatest creation of Allah because the best book Allah gave
[29:51]to humanity is the Quran.
[29:51]So if Allah tying is tying the holy Quran to a family,
[29:56]you better know that this family must have the highest rank after
[30:00]prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam.
[30:06]The sixth piece of evidence, this is a inni [Applause] scholar.
[30:20]He says this hadith according to the standards of Bkari and Muslim
[30:28]is it's an authentic and this is hadith 3003 for anyone who's
[30:32]checking the references 3003 which book and we have also narrated this
[30:42]hadith in our sources.
[30:42]What does the prophet say?
[30:43]The prophet in this hadith which Sunnis have said is aith he
[30:49]says The prophet says and I or let me be more specific
[31:01]I'll use even the Arabic grammar.
[31:03]I and Ali are from the same tree and all other people
[31:11]are from another tree from other different trees.
[31:13]Question is the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasall higher in rank than all
[31:17]other prophets.
[31:18]There's no doubt about that.
[31:19]We all Muslims accept that he's the greatest messenger of Allah.
[31:23]If the prophet says I and Ali are from the same tree
[31:25]and all other people including prophets and messengers are from another tree,
[31:30]that means we automatically know Im Ali has a higher status than
[31:37]other prophets because he's from the same tree of the prophet sallallahu
[31:40]alaihi.
[31:41]And this is a hadith.
[31:42]The seventh piece of evidence all Muslims have narrated that the prophet
[31:48]sallallahu alaihi said Hussein.
[31:56]What's the translation of the hadith?
[31:59]Hassan and Hussein are the masters of the youth of paradise.
[32:07]Question.
[32:06]Prophet Isa, prophet Musa, prophet Ibrahim peace be upon them.
[32:11]Will they go to paradise?
[32:12]Of course.
[32:13]Who's their master in paradise?
[32:15]Imm Hassan and Hussein.
[32:17]If IM Hassan and Hussein are going to be their masters in
[32:20]paradise, they must have a rank above them.
[32:23]So, I im Hassan and Hussein, we know that they're better than
[32:29]all of Allah's creation except Prophet Muhammad, Imam Ali, Lady Fatim Alisam
[32:33]because they the imams clarified that this does not include these three.
[32:40]After these three, we are the masters of the youth of paradise
[32:43]and that includes all prophets and messengers.
[32:45]And this is a hadith that is recognized by all Muslims.
[32:49]The eighth argument, this one's really interesting.
[32:52]This is mentioned in our sources in the book by Alazi.
[32:59]He mentions that one day who was one of the top companions
[33:06]of Im Ali.
[33:05]He went to the Imam and he asked him a question.
[33:09]He told him are you better or Adam is Mus are you
[33:15]higher or them?
[33:17]The Imisam told him it's not appropriate for me to praise myself.
[33:20]Subhan Allah.
[33:21]He said the same thing the prophet said to that Jewish man.
[33:24]But now that you've asked, I will tell you the truth.
[33:29]Now that you've asked, I will tell you the virtues Allah has
[33:32]given me.
[33:33]I am higher in rank than Adam because Adam was in heaven
[33:37]and Allah made everything lawful to him and available to his disposal
[33:41]except that tree.
[33:43]Now there's a lot of discussion what the tree was, but some
[33:46]hadith state it was wheat.
[33:49]Let's go with this hadith.
[33:50]The Immiam says Allah allowed Adam to eat everything except the wheat
[33:55]of that tree.
[33:57]He was told stay away from it.
[33:59]Yet Adam disobeyed Allah subhana wa ta'ala.
[34:01]He did not take the advice of Allah and he went and
[34:06]he ate from that tree.
[34:06]But I the wheat is halal for me but never in my
[34:10]life do I eat wheat.
[34:10]You know I ali never ate bread made from wheat.
[34:15]He would always opt to eat bread made from barley shah because
[34:19]that was the lowest quality bread available at that time.
[34:24]So the im says Allah has made it lawful to me but
[34:28]I have stopped myself from eating wheat whereas Allah allowed Adam to
[34:32]eat everything.
[34:32]He told him don't eat wheat.
[34:33]He went and he ate it.
[34:35]So I have a higher status than Adam.
[34:40]That's number one.
[34:37]Number two when it comes to Ibraim and remember when Ibraim said
[34:47]to Allah, "Oh Allah, show me how you're going to revive the
[34:50]dead." Allah told him you don't believe no I do believe but
[35:00]I want my heart to develop more certainty I don't have doubts
[35:06]ya Allah but I want you to show me how do you
[35:07]revive the dead show me in this dunya when something is dead
[35:12]how do you revive it IM Ali Alisam comments here he says
[35:14]that's what Ibraim said he wanted more certainty but as for me
[35:22]if you remove the veil from me, I will not increase in
[35:26]my because Ali is at the top of and then when we
[35:31]come to prophet MS he says prophet MS accidentally killed one of
[35:35]the men of so when Allah told him go back to the
[35:39]pharaoh and show him the signs he said this is the Quran
[35:43]says oh Allah I'm scared of them because I killed one of
[35:45]their men accidentally now they're going to try to kill me I'm
[35:47]scared Allah told him don't be scared I'll support You don't worry.
[35:53]Im Ali says, "But as for me, I had killed all the
[35:55]nobles and the heroes of the Meccans.
[35:57]But when the prophet sallallahu alaihi gave me surah Toba to go
[36:03]and recite to the Meccans, I went with full courage.
[36:05]Even though I'd killed so many of their men, I read the
[36:09]Quran till the last verse in their presence.
[36:11]Even though any second they could have killed me, and I came
[36:13]back.
[36:14]So I have more courage than Musa Alisam." And then Isaam, this
[36:21]one's fascinating.
[36:20]He says, "As for Isa, when his mother was pregnant with him,
[36:25]she was in the temple in Jerusalem.
[36:27]When the time came for her to deliver her baby, Allah told
[36:30]her, Miam, leave.
[36:31]This is a temple.
[36:34]This is a masjid.
[36:33]It's a temple.
[36:35]Go to a distant place and deliver Isa there." He says but
[36:38]when it came to my mother said Allah subhana wa ta'ala guided
[36:43]her to thea and Allah split to her thea I was born
[36:46]in thea the ninth piece of piece of evidence very quickly this
[36:56]is in the book which is a sunni book of hadith and
[37:01]this is volume 4 page 331 the prophet sallallahu alaihi took the
[37:05]hands of Hassan and Hussein according to this hadith and he said
[37:09]the following by the way this is an authentic hadith he saysith
[37:13]this is a good hadith what did the prophet say when he
[37:18]held the hands of Hass and Hussein he said the one who
[37:25]loves me who loves these two Hassan and Hussein and loves their
[37:30]father and their mother Allah The prophet says, "If you love these
[37:41]my family, you will be at my status on the day of
[37:46]judgment." Question.
[37:45]If the B have such a high status according to such that
[37:51]if you love them with the prophet, you will be at the
[37:54]status of the prophet.
[37:57]Can you imagine what the status themselves is?
[37:59]If you love them, you get that status.
[38:01]What about them?
[38:03]How high must they be with Allah for the prophet to give
[38:08]them such an honor?
[38:08]That shows that they are the best of Allah's creation.
[38:13]Number 10, the the 10th piece of evidence.
[38:16]This is narrated by Musad Ahmed Ibn Hal and his famous Musnet.
[38:20]He quotes the prophet saying, "Allah has given me vi five virtues
[38:24]in Ali and I love these virtues.
[38:27]There's nothing more beloved than these five.
[38:30]One of them is the following.
[38:33]On the day of judgmental will carry he will carry my banner
[38:43]and everyone will be under this banner from Adam and everyone after
[38:46]Adam will be under the banner of Ali Abib.
[38:49]I ask you a question brothers and sisters.
[38:51]If Ali is carrying the banner on the day of judgment and
[38:53]Adam, Musa, Ibraim, Alam are under the banner, who must be higher
[38:59]in status?
[38:59]If you're lower in status, how would Allah tell you to give
[39:03]the banner and have the prophets under your banner?
[39:06]So this demonstrates that Im Ali Alam on the day of judgment
[39:08]has a higher status than the prophets.
[39:10]That's why Allah gives him the banner.
[39:13]You carry the banner.
[39:13]Number 11, we have authentic hadiths in Shia sources and Sunni sources
[39:18]that the first people to meet the prophet on the day of
[39:25]judgment at the at the pool of kar is who the B
[39:26]peace be upon them and the one who's the guardian at the
[39:32]pool deciding who can enter and who cannot is ali this is
[39:37]in on the day of judgment that's the role of aliam if
[39:41]there was someone higher than I after the prophet, he should have
[39:47]had that role to allow people to come to the pool or
[39:49]not because if you're allowed entry into the pool, you're saved and
[39:53]if you're not, you're not saved on the day of judgment.
[39:56]So that also demonstrates that Imam and the B do have a
[40:03]higher status.
[40:04]The last one, my dear brothers and sisters, this is narrated by
[40:08]the Sunni scholar alakim alakani.
[40:10]He mentions this hadith in his book volume 2 page 470.
[40:17]You can verify these sources that I'm sharing with you.
[40:21]In this hadith, the prophet sallallahu alaihi states there is a banner
[40:27]that Allah created before this universe before he created this planet.
[40:32]What's written on this banner of light?
[40:36]The following is written.
[40:38][Music] The family of Muhammad are the best of human beings, the
[40:51]best of creation.
[40:55]So my dear brothers and sisters, these are 12 pieces of evidence
[41:02]that demonstrate that the B peace be upon them, Im Ali Alisam,
[41:05]Im Hassan, Im Hussein, and according to our hadith, by extension, the
[41:09]other imams all the way up to Al Mahi, they have a
[41:13]higher ranks than the prophets.
[41:14]And we're not trying to stir any controversy.
[41:18]We're just having an academic discussion.
[41:20]I presented the evidence.
[41:21]I welcome anyone who would like to challenge this evidence.
[41:23]I completely welcome that.
[41:26]I will just refer to one objection in a couple of minutes.
[41:30]Very briefly, I did see a Sunni scholar who had a speech
[41:33]attacking the Shia for believing that the imams have a higher status
[41:39]than the prophets.
[41:39]And he says this Shia belief violates the Quran.
[41:43]Why?
[41:44]Because Allah states in verse 86, Allah mentions these prophets.
[41:56]We have favored them over the over the worlds.
[41:59]So he's saying the Quran says these prophets are the greatest that
[42:03]Allah has favored over the worlds and that includes the B.
[42:08]So here the Quran is falsifying what you Shia are saying.
[42:12]What's the response to that?
[42:14]First of all, my question to the Sunni scholar is these prophets
[42:20]that the verse mentions, do they include Prophet Muhammad also or no?
[42:25]Because the Quran says they're better than all of the world, right?
[42:29]All of the worlds.
[42:33]Does that include Prophet Muhammad or no?
[42:35]Of course, it doesn't include him because Sunnis accept that Prophet Muhammad
[42:38]has a higher status.
[42:39]So you made an exception for prophet Muhammad which means the verse
[42:44]is not absolute.
[42:47]Number two means what?
[42:46]That era in their time they were the best of prophets.
[42:52]It is not including all times.
[42:53]How do we know that?
[42:54]Because the Quran regularly uses language like that to refer to that
[43:01]era.
[42:59]For instance, look at two identical verses in the Quran.
[43:04]Al Bakar 47, Alb Bakar 122.
[43:07]Allah says, "Oh children of Israel, remember the blessings I gave you
[43:19]and I've preferred you over." So I have a question to Muslims
[43:26]today.
[43:23]Are Benny is better than Muslims?
[43:27]I dare you find a Muslim who will say yes.
[43:30]Of course not.
[43:33]Why?
[43:33]Because the Quran says the Muslim um the pious ones were the
[43:38]best um that came forth to people.
[43:42]So then what does the verse mean when it says Allah favored
[43:47]Benny Israel over the worlds?
[43:48]It means during their era not all worlds.
[43:52]And so the same responses about those prophets prophet Lu prophet Ibraim
[43:56]they were the pre best prophets in their time in their eras.
[44:01]It is not including future prophets.
[44:03]It is not including the prophet and his family.
[44:05]and als Allah has purified you and he's chosen you over the
[44:36]woman of the world.
[44:37]So a man said to imit it means she's better than Lady
[44:42]Fatim and that's the Quran.
[44:43]The Imam said no was the leader of the woman of her
[44:49]era and her time.
[44:50]But as for Lady she is she is the leader of the
[45:02]woman from the beginning of time and the end of time.
[45:06]And you know what the poet says?
[45:10]Allah let's come let's conclude with this with these two lines of
[45:13]poetry.
[45:14]Let's remember the tragedy of the poet says if you say I
[45:37]say is the pride and honor of Eve.
[45:51]And if you say Mariam, I still tell you Fatma has a
[45:55]higher rank.
[45:56]Give me the evidence.
[45:57]What evidence you poet you want to give me?
[46:04][Music] Does have a father like Muhammad?
[46:17]And did Miam have sons?
[46:21]As many sons as Fat, did she have and Hussein and all
[46:24]these sons, Lady Zanam?
[46:27]Did she have them?
[46:29]And then the poet takes your heart to the tragedy of Fatima.
[46:34]He says when Miam wanted to deliver the baby, Jesus spoke to
[46:38]her.
[46:38]Allah sent her that palm tree with the dates and she peacefully
[46:42]delivered her baby.
[46:44]But as for Fat, remember when she was between the door of
[46:52]the wall and the wall and when Lady F was attacked when
[47:00]she miscarried her fetus and she called back.
[47:08]Oh father, is this what happens to your daughter?
[47:11]Allah, what the experience?
[47:15]no one experienced in history.
[47:17]Raise your hands in dua.
[47:17]This is the moment of dua.
[47:18]We ask Allah subhanana wa ta'ala to bless our gathering tonight after
[47:24]inshallah.
[47:25]Allah accepted all of your deeds, all of your inshallah.
[47:29]Allah subhana wa ta'ala wrote the best year for you, my dear
[47:33]brothers and sisters.
[47:32]Raise your hands in dua.
[47:37]Let's recite this holy verse five times together.
[47:40]form.
[47:47]Amen.
[47:53][Music] Amen.
[47:56][Music] Amen.
[48:16]Amen.
[48:25]for Allah.
[48:46]Oh Allah, forgive us our sins on this blessed night.
[48:50]Oh Allah, if you have not already forgiven us, we ask you
[48:57]in your mercy to forgive us in these rem in what remains
[49:00]in the month of Ramadan, ya Allah.
[49:02]Oh Allah grant us the z of Oh Allah grant us the
[49:11]shaf of Muhammad.
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