47- (2) Islamic Beliefs - Qur’anic Verse for Taqlid - Sayed Mohammad Baqer Qazwini

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[0:00]audhu billahi min as-shaytan ar-rajim bismillah r-rahman r-rahim al-hamdu lillahi rabbil alameen

[0:08]wa sallahu allah sayidina muhammadin wa ala nabina by hearing a llama

[0:13]salli ala muhammad o ali muhammad respected brothers and sisters assalamualaikum warahmatullahi

[0:20]wabarakatuh we continue our discussion on top lead previously we examined the

[0:30]rational basis for Chuck lead and in Arabic briefly scholars have coined

[0:41]this term to summarize the entire discussion would jube follow jor-el jehanne

[0:48]and Ilana it's a rational law that if you are not an

[0:52]expert in a field you refer to an expert very simple so

[0:57]we examined the rational basis for it one other indication that this

[1:03]is rational is that you find rational people historically referring to scholars

[1:07]even though they may not have called the TUC lead but in

[1:13]reality since the days of the Imams people would do talk lead

[1:17]do we have a historical reference from the early scholars that verifies

[1:23]this yes we have for instance a sheikh abu see he says

[1:31]what levy navigable a our opinion our views that and now he

[1:35]had usually land me a layman can do the following who's the

[1:42]layman and let Eli actor al bathra what if teach the one

[1:44]who's not able to go to go and search for the proper

[1:49]hadith to derive rulings one who's not a scholar what is he

[1:53]allowed to do subtly deulim he can refer to a scholar he

[1:58]even uses the word tackle eat remember she called is a thousand

[2:01]years ago so to clean is not this new phenomenon in this

[2:04]age as some are suggesting Jacob recognized this a thousand years ago

[2:10]what's your proof shekel to see what's your proof that we can

[2:15]do tackle it he cites what is called rational practice see a

[2:22]Latino fella he says yeah dunno Allah Dalek and neewa jet to

[2:26]a metal bar if I saw the entire school of thought without

[2:34]an exception min the Amir al-mumineen re Salaam since the era of

[2:39]imam ali it has a man enojado until this era after the

[2:44]Haber yojana in our Ummah in a in our unnimaya we see

[2:47]that the Shia they referred to their scholars where Steph to Nahum

[2:53]falaka me wanna buy that they take the fatwa of scholars in

[2:57]rulings and an acts of worship why you've tuned a homeowner drama

[3:02]or feeha and the scholars they issue their fatwa in that field

[3:08]so a shaker is citing rational practice I see the tradition historically

[3:15]is for the layman to refer to the scholars Salam aleikum wa

[3:20]rahmatullah so this is not a new phenomenon notice that Jacob says

[3:25]not since the labor since which era which Imam Imam Ali Allah's

[3:32]Salam that means Sheikh hosts to see here is certifying he is

[3:39]attesting that even in the presence of Imams people would still do

[3:43]tuk lead of scholars for those who obviously did not have direct

[3:48]access to the Imams they were either in other cities or villages

[3:52]or they didn't always have the pleasure of meeting the imam ali

[3:58]sila so snuggly the new phenomenon or is this something since the

[4:01]days of imam ali by the words of a shaker to see

[4:05]because one big challenge that we have today there are some who

[4:09]are claiming that back then there was no talk lead this is

[4:14]something that's recent maybe 200 years old and then later on we'll

[4:19]examine the akbari Oh silly you know dispute and a lot of

[4:22]people claim that our bodies don't believe in tuk lead whereas the

[4:26]Thule is invented this technique system we'll examine that later but this

[4:30]is evidence now that tuck lead was there since the day of

[4:33]her mom Ali Ali Salaam where the one who's not an expert

[4:35]refers to the export and takes fat to us from them he

[4:40]uses the word tech lead and fatwa keep that in mind so

[4:42]previously we examined rational practice rational laws that support took lead and

[4:49]now we have rational practice and by the way because the concept

[4:55]of tuck lead is so rational it's not limited to the Shia

[4:58]school of thought Sunnis also have to lead yes their criteria for

[5:07]whom they do tech lead of differs than us but the idea

[5:10]of chocolate is something also new schools of thought believe it I'll

[5:17]give you an example two examples in fact today when you are

[5:21]classifying the Sunni schools of thought what are the four main ones

[5:26]well what hobby is more recent humbly Hanafi Shafi'i Maliki what are

[5:37]these names the leaders of these schools of thought abu hanifa is

[5:41]the leader of the Hanafi school of thought Shafi'i Maliki bananas and

[5:45]a madam in Hamburg every son need today who subscribes to this

[5:53]school of thought to his Medhat is following doing tech lead of

[5:57]one of these four that's the essence of chocolate because in reality

[6:02]where is the Sunni getting his fifty laws from not from the

[6:08]Prophet directly no from Abu Hanifah sapiens and fat waz Shaffer is

[6:11]opinions and fat wads Ahmed even handles opinions and fat was their

[6:14]doing talk elite the only difference between us and them is that

[6:18]they've limited to ugly to four individuals and they pretty much closed

[6:22]the door of which they had or as we the Shia we

[6:26]say no religion needs scholars in every era in order to give

[6:31]us their scholarly jurisprudence really that's the that's the difference otherwise they

[6:35]also do talk elite they've limited it to four individuals what and

[6:41]and our question to them why does Abu Hanifa have the privilege

[6:46]to make his own fifty school of thought why did God say

[6:49]that in the Quran that the prophets say that only these four

[6:56]have the right to use their HT hat in these issues that's

[6:59]our challenge to them that's our question to them yes brother well

[7:08]historically they tried to stick to the opinions of these four individuals

[7:17]yes recently we see progress in the Sunni world and today you

[7:21]have Muftis have you heard of Muftis like each kingdom or arabian

[7:25]country or Islamic country assigns the mufti well what does it move

[7:29]to do a mufti does operate within some you know within the

[7:36]framework of their school of thought so they're experts on Abu Hanifa

[7:40]let's say if he's a Hanafy Mufti but he does give you

[7:45]his own fatwas they look at new cases they look at the

[7:47]text the issue of that was just like a merger issues affect

[7:51]wah these move teach today they are issuing fatwas that's tuck need

[7:54]that's a type of technique in fact I would like to share

[7:56]with you the exact coat of a Banaras a meme i Bernard

[8:01]a mean is a very well known Sunni scholar yes we consider

[8:06]him to be influenced by Wahhabism and to be an extremist but

[8:09]he is a Sunni scholar listen to his words in the booklet

[8:15]our act and Babel move to even earth a mean says the

[8:19]layman must do tuck lead he even uses the word tuck lead

[8:25]yes he puts a restriction the restriction that he puts is that

[8:31]the scholar that you're following must be in your city you cannot

[8:35]follow someone who lives in a different place why what's his philosophy

[8:40]he says because if you can choose the fatwa of any scholar

[8:45]then you will start picking and choosing oh there's this Mufti in

[8:49]Tunis has fat wads are really flexible in this area let me

[8:54]follow him and then there is this move Mufti in Syria he

[8:58]is also very flexible and then you start picking and choosing if

[9:00]in our say Mia says that's not right this is not the

[9:05]proper way of doing to clean stick to a scholar who's in

[9:08]your area and just do tech lead of them but he uses

[9:10]the word tech lead in this book now I mean Sonya's also

[9:14]believed in tuck lead the only difference is the criteria who is

[9:17]qualified we say someone must be educated in the school of a

[9:22]debate you do totally any of them they say no we have

[9:23]other schools of thought really that's the core difference but the concept

[9:28]of tech lead is so rational it's so necessary there is no

[9:33]other alternative that even Sunnis have to leave so the one who

[9:36]says that luckily there's a Shia innovation no Sundays I've been doing

[9:41]doing tech lead since the days of Abu Hanifa and in fact

[9:44]they're tough lead is less flexible than our technique our tech lead

[9:49]is more progressive it's more realistic it addresses our challenges better so

[9:57]there you go you have evidence that people who want to practice

[10:00]religion they have to refer to scholars and that's really the basic

[10:04]idea with technique yes brother it's it's a modern phenomenon historically Sunnis

[10:24]did not have a problem with duct lead it's a more of

[10:29]a modern phenomenon where you see media being used to slander the

[10:34]Shia to disqualify the Messiah system the house institutions so they're accusing

[10:39]the Shia of you have this innovation where you blindly follow your

[10:42]scholars well your Sinise I've been doing that for over a thousand

[10:45]years now what's the difference really what's the difference just like you

[10:49]blindly follow up on an ephah Without Really challenging him as a

[10:52]layman I follow someone in my era who's an expert what's the

[11:00]difference yes abu hanifa is closer historically to the era of the

[11:03]prophet sallallaahu ironic well he uses his opinion that's the core idea

[11:09]here so historically it was not really an issue it's more of

[11:14]a modern phenomenon to to disqualify the man jaaa system today's world

[11:20]so maybe 100 years ago information was not readily available to justify

[11:26]that plea but today there is so much information to back that

[11:31]a thought process how is it it's becoming more of an issue

[11:34]today where as information is readily available to justify that fee yet

[11:38]many are questioning I think there are some natural factors one of

[11:44]them is the failure of a lot of Sunni institutions when it

[11:48]comes to religious authority they don't have central authority organized system that's

[11:55]why you have groups like - and Isis and they claim legitimacy

[12:00]right whereas when they see the Shia system and how the Shias

[12:04]are committed to their magia system and scholars and how that's a

[12:08]source of strength even in times of chaos and turmoil like Iraq

[12:14]the maggia was a source of strength and unification for the Shia

[12:18]they despised them so how do they weaken the Shia let's start

[12:24]a media campaign against their metro system if you weaken the belief

[12:28]of the Shia and their scholars they as a community become weaker

[12:31]that's one natural factor that's causing them to question this and to

[12:42]highlight it in the media part of it is envy and jealousy

[12:44]but part of it is they realize this is a source of

[12:48]strength for us it's an area of strength and because they consider

[12:51]us their enemies or heretics if they see us having an area

[12:56]of strength obviously they won't like to weaken us so even if

[12:59]there is no jealousy involved the fact that they see us as

[13:05]heretics they see them as jaea as a very strong point that

[13:06]we have in our school of thought so they would like to

[13:09]weaken that because they know that that will weaken the Shia altogether

[13:14]so that's natural it's expected for them to do that in this

[13:19]time and era modern-day speakers but then the Shia's who thought that

[13:26]could be a session essentially muddying the waters there are some speakers

[13:33]who highlight these controversies obviously and they might push for some agenda

[13:38]against the whole system of tech lead without passing a judgement on

[13:42]them some of them do so for personal interests because they might

[13:48]not have received the spotlight from the seminaries so their fault finding

[13:55]an alternative voice that happens with a number of them you know

[13:59]some people want recognition so if the manager or the how's the

[14:03]institution does not give them that recognition that their craving for they

[14:07]will take an alternative rap to get attention a lot of times

[14:12]it really boils down to that it's sad but it does boil

[14:14]down to that so this is a challenge this is a challenge

[14:18]that we do have some of them some of them if we

[14:22]want to give them the benefit of the doubt they not they

[14:25]might not be aware of how the merger is a source of

[14:30]strength they don't have much experience in reading Shia history in the

[14:34]in the role of Shia scholars in in in really saving the

[14:38]Shia community some of them are not aware of that when you

[14:40]talk to them you know they're shocked have you read this the

[14:43]the history of Shia scholars the marriages the tobacco Revolution the 1920

[14:49]about the Revolution that revolution the mushroom this-this-this are you aware of

[14:55]that they're not aware of them they heard one or two stories

[14:59]of someone connected to the Mafia who misused plums and that's it

[15:02]they want to disqualify the whole system they take a small little

[15:05]incident they make big generalizations out of ignorance if I want to

[15:09]give them the benefit of the doubt it's out of ignorance well

[15:13]arrogance goes back to the first point that I mentioned some of

[15:18]them it's out of arrogance and wanting attention so that's how they

[15:22]disqualify the system to get attention then there is a second category

[15:25]it may be arrogance yes if I want to give them the

[15:28]benefit of the doubt it's ignorant so it's either arrogance or ignorance

[15:34]yes there are scholars well they get it from their own system

[15:52]of hadith from Bihari from the canonical texts from their own jurisprudence

[15:57]each sunni school of thought has its particular system so they see

[16:01]companions for instance as having the authority after the prophet so if

[16:05]there's a hadith from a companion on a religious manner they accept

[16:07]it they accept whatever Bihari chose as a hadith a lot of

[16:12]them will accept it just because it's in Mahadi let's consider its

[16:15]ayah or they just accept what a Baha nifA said what Shafi

[16:18]said in a legal matter they see them as the sources of

[16:23]authority not the animate that's why Bihari was a contemporary of al-imam

[16:27]enjoyed for instance he doesn't narrate a single hadith from an imam

[16:30]enjoy and that's why you see sunnis historically have not recognized the

[16:34]religious authority of these leader imams they continue their path they just

[16:43]continue they try to figure out what was Abu Hanifah system to

[16:47]apply it to modern cases so they're still following him like his

[16:51]book of rulings they're still following well most Shia anima they say

[17:08]if you followed someone in your lifetime you can stay following them

[17:12]but not to start following someone who passed away right so it's

[17:16]quite different in the end we do have that condition that you

[17:21]must follow a living scholar to begin with you can stay on

[17:24]that scholar sure but you must have followed him in your lifetime

[17:27]whereas they say no you know we could follow someone who lived

[17:35]a thousand years ago books where these types of debates have taken

[17:43]place sharra nights and my job and in these books there are

[17:48]very specific references to the books of the SUNY schools of thoughts

[17:52]such as Mojave and whatnot there are some out there or now

[17:57]have started this wave that you know these two books are pretty

[18:00]much made up somebody just decided to write them out these events

[18:03]did not occur but how can they deny the evidence that's provided

[18:07]in these books in terms of the various matters are concerned the

[18:14]fabrications that have been made right well in reality if you disqualify

[18:20]these books there is no foundation for those schools of thought and

[18:24]when you're put in that spot there is historical pressure on you

[18:28]there's global pressure on you whatwhat what alternative do they have if

[18:34]I come out and admit like some scholars are by the way

[18:39]especially in Egypt a number of Egyptian professors and doctors and experts

[18:43]in Islamic law from al-azhar are coming and doubting bihari they're taking

[18:48]a lot of heat for it but they have the courage to

[18:51]do so if I disqualify the system what other alternative do I

[18:55]have nothing so they're stuck in this situation because they're not going

[18:59]to admit that they had a debate and that whole history is

[19:03]the alternative obviously for political reasons and historical reasons so even though

[19:07]some of them know I've heard some of them privately telling some

[19:12]of their friends we don't have an alternative what do I do

[19:14]what's my alternative can't they concern that a sense of awakening where

[19:20]they can see it now because there's an altar I mean there

[19:22]has to be an answer to everything the fact that there's not

[19:26]an alternative is it easier to just stick to the path oh

[19:30]it's convenient yes it's convenient because if you want to go against

[19:34]the system you lose credibility you lose your status you lose your

[19:38]followers you lose your paycheck some of them clearly had stated to

[19:44]a Shia scholar whom he befriended he told them I know everything

[19:46]you have is the hump but I am here a local Imam

[19:50]of a mosque and in one of the Middle Eastern countries I

[19:53]have a community that respects me I have a paycheck I have

[19:58]a family to support if I come and admit what's my alternative

[20:00]go and become a janitor who's gonna who's gonna take care of

[20:04]me anymore so I'm not willing to have that severe change in

[20:11]my lifestyle so it's not easy it requires a huge sacrifice not

[20:15]everyone's willing to make that sacrifice boils down to that now let's

[20:21]talk about evidence in Quran about to Khalid before we get to

[20:27]the hadith is there any verse in the Holy Quran that supports

[20:31]the concept of tuck lead one verse that scholars discuss is verse

[20:39]122 of surah at-taubah a las carreteras states bismillah r-rahman r-rahim wah

[20:43]McConnell menu Nelly young Pharaoh Khafre fellow enough eromine-kun Leifer ottoman home

[20:50]bar if atone Leah taffeta who 15 well you Naruto Muhammad our

[20:55]Rajah allang him la ilaha illa allah subhanaw taala is commanding in

[21:02]surah at-taubah this was revealed in medina well now you had a

[21:06]Muslim society Allah is commanding Muslims from neighboring areas tribes villages because

[21:12]now the Muslim lands were expanding more and more people and tribes

[21:16]were following Islam the Quran says it's not possible for all the

[21:21]believers to travel and go and learn therefore what is it that's

[21:26]practical what's practical because remember back then there was no satellite TV

[21:32]internet even books were not accessible so if you had 1,000 people

[21:36]living in a village how do they know about their legal laws

[21:39]about Islam the Quran says well it's not possible for all of

[21:44]them to migrate to Medina and come and learn it's not possible

[21:47]so what's possible the process let there be a group from each

[21:56]village from each tribe that travels they go they study islamic law

[22:00]religion yet taffeta who 15 they get a proper understanding of religion

[22:05]then well young surat al mohammed are a joelly then when they

[22:13]go back to their tribe they teach their tribe they warn their

[22:16]tribe about these laws neroon so that hopefully their tribe will accept

[22:21]an exercise caution and accepting these beliefs how does this verse prove

[22:28]the concept of technique think about it before I examine the scholar

[22:35]in the perspective on it the first basically says let there be

[22:42]a group whom I who travels they go let's say to Medina

[22:45]they learn they come back and educate their people how does this

[22:49]prove that lead yes to them depending on them and being trusting

[23:06]them exactly that's a very good argument when the Quran is commanding

[23:15]this group to learn and then teach their people is the Quran

[23:23]also commanding the people to accept their teachings or no because if

[23:29]you say no what's the result of saying no let's say someone

[23:34]says the Quran is saying go learn and then teach your people

[23:37]but there's no indication in the verse that you have to accept

[23:41]what these scholars are telling you someone could make that argument how

[23:44]would you disqualify that argument well what's the point then if the

[23:52]Quran is saying to these group of people go and become scholars

[23:54]and then come back to your village and then teach the people

[23:56]but the people don't have to accept your teachings then what's the

[23:58]point it's said given in the verse that when a last commanding

[24:03]this group of scholars to come back to their villages and teach

[24:06]their people that their people accept their religious teachings otherwise it's in

[24:12]vain what's the point of them going so this verse is a

[24:18]verse that is commanding the people to follow who this group of

[24:23]scholars that's totally at a very basic level because these people in

[24:27]that village they're not meaning the Prophet or the representatives of the

[24:31]prophets like for example Imam Mahdi being in this place or someone

[24:33]else that the Prophet appoints they're not seeing him they're not hearing

[24:37]his words who are they relying on to convey to them what

[24:41]the Prophet is saying who are they relying on this group of

[24:43]scholars that's technique where you write rely on experts who know the

[24:49]law to tell you what they think the Prophet said so there

[24:54]is basis for chuckling in the Holy Quran not using the word

[25:03]talk elite obviously you don't need that word to plead just like

[25:06]people say I want the word jibun to believe in her job

[25:09]the concept of her job is clearly mentioned the boundaries of her

[25:14]job are mentioned the spirit of chocolate is found in this verse

[25:17]yes but the concept of the plead goes is it more of

[25:32]an issue for them to have an issue with that or the

[25:37]fact that when they hear something that is right and it doesn't

[25:39]and they just don't want to do it out of convenience then

[25:43]they're in that picky about such issues that stuff leave regardless what

[25:46]it is so is it more of a conscience issue of I

[25:51]know it's right but it's inconvenient for me I like just following

[25:55]the easy way even the vast majority of Sydney's they're not exactly

[26:00]following every single no they're not absolutely so whether they try to

[26:04]post and those same ones that do not follow do challenge the

[26:08]Shia side of school well somebody could tell them are you exactly

[26:11]are you following the teachings every teaching above and you falter are

[26:16]you even aware of them so and even in our signed as

[26:21]far as the Shia school of thought goes but the ones the

[26:23]modern-day speakers who are raising issues it's a matter of convenience when

[26:28]I look at it it's not so much as okay the scholar

[26:31]the thought was that they're providing is a really beneficial to my

[26:35]little life if I truly look at it from that perspective or

[26:39]not I mean it's just it's a conscious decision that you can

[26:42]make analyze it for a few minutes and then determine what is

[26:47]the right thing to do or not so I don't know whether

[26:51]the nature of human beings is to find the convenient route because

[26:55]sometimes the other route binds you you have to act responsibly you

[27:03]have to commit to a system you have to impose restrictions on

[27:09]yourselves people don't like restrictions so if I do away with this

[27:13]whole system of tuck need I am free to come up with

[27:17]my own laws this is how not for me this is how

[27:18]long it's easy it's convenient and people like convenience who doesn't but

[27:25]that's the test of this life last part Allah created us in

[27:31]the side to try us not to take a convenient a convenient

[27:33]path not to take a convenient path but to take that path

[27:39]which Allah wants for us which is usually a difficult path it's

[27:43]not convenient at the time of Imam Hussain al Assad it was

[27:45]very convenient to stay back in Kufa and not go and defend

[27:49]urema very convenient and you could come up with a thousand excuses

[27:52]but what did Allah want from the people and the amount not

[27:56]even have you thought about it someone has a beautiful hadith maybe

[27:59]we discussed it in little coffee or we world one day the

[28:03]amount money sometimes says if you have two options ahead of you

[28:06]you don't know is this is right or that's wrong the one

[28:10]that you find your nips feels convenient with know that this is

[28:16]the wrong one avoid it that's a built-in indicator Allah has given

[28:20]you it's it's really a matter of convenience for a lot of

[28:24]people and some people honestly it's just ignorance some people don't know

[28:28]once they're educated they see the the the philosophy the reasoning there

[28:35]the logic there they do accept those who are not stubborn when

[28:38]they see that they do accept it's important to seek that education

[28:42]so verse 122 of surah at-taubah is very clear that a group

[28:48]of people they go they learn they're educated and Medina the center

[28:53]of learning and then they take that understanding of Islam that they

[28:57]have they go back to the people and what do they do

[29:00]they teach them Islamic law and the Quran by commanding them is

[29:08]also commanding the people to accept la note so that hopefully those

[29:12]people will take these laws and implement them this is the concept

[29:16]of tech lead in surah at-taubah verse 122 so we have a

[29:21]Quranic basis the one who says this is invented it's made up

[29:24]we mentioned number one we have intellectual logical proofs we have rational

[29:28]practice other schools of thought also have it and we this is

[29:34]a clear verse in the Holy Quran now let's transition to hadith

[29:43]yes also going to say common sense but you have to go

[29:53]to understand religion or to give you guidance like for example if

[29:57]you take for school and other parts of like a Chinese or

[30:05]Asian education system you have to get the education somewhere or else

[30:09]you're not going to get the button but the boundaries of what

[30:13]you can do and think doctors and so forth and when it

[30:16]comes to religion you need those scholars to teach you these boundaries

[30:21]are us everybody can do their own technique for their own convenience

[30:28]right have you argued there just like on argument II it would

[30:35]be let's just consider the atheists I'm going to a university I'm

[30:38]sitting down with these teachers I'm picking their knowledge and I'm learning

[30:41]I'm learning from the text that they're teaching I don't have to

[30:44]follow the teachers from that standpoint when have become a doctor I

[30:49]could be innovative and come up with new things out there so

[30:54]am I really following teachers but you don't have to follow 100%

[30:58]but they're still bonded that they said that you know you were

[31:04]taught in school as a doctor there are certain things that you

[31:08]have to abide by you know you can't so you probably can't

[31:11]come up with with a different Avenue first for a disease okay

[31:19]but you need the tools to become a doctor without those tools

[31:23]you can't be a doctor or an engineer or an accountant or

[31:27]whatever you still need some type of tools to for you to

[31:34]become educated at that at that specific area when without without that

[31:40]tools you can't be where your it is it is a specific

[31:47]type of technique sure we can call it a specific type of

[31:51]technique one one other thought about this verse and the Holy Quran

[31:54]there are some who have translated it in a different way just

[32:00]to give you that other perspective as well it does not change

[32:03]the fact that the verse is still talking about the spirit of

[32:08]TUC elite the other tough seal the other way of understanding the

[32:11]verse is that Allah Spanish Allah is talking about war and battlefield

[32:15]and you know believers going and fighting in the battlefield so this

[32:19]verse that I read is saying the following according to the second

[32:24]tough seal it's saying that while all believers cannot go and fight

[32:29]not everybody can leave their city and go and fight therefore let

[32:34]a group of believers stay in the city learn about their Islamic

[32:39]laws and rulings and then when those fighters come back they fill

[32:43]them in on what they missed out on that's another way of

[32:48]that some may be some Sunni schools of thought that's how they

[32:52]understand the tough seal of this verse so they flip the meaning

[32:57]around based on what they understand from the linguistic meaning of the

[33:00]verse but it doesn't change the idea that the spirit of Chuck

[33:03]lead is contained in that because when those people who let's say

[33:06]were gone for months in the battlefield when they come back they

[33:12]are referring to these scholars or these montt meaning who understand religion

[33:16]to tell them about Islamic laws in in in other words the

[33:20]Quran is still legitimizing the idea of referring to those who have

[33:26]fit a fattie one who understands religion so it doesn't really change

[33:30]even if we take that tough seal but our scholars have taken

[33:33]the first step Seattle and it's it's more clear from the tone

[33:35]of the verse let's now transition into hadith but very briefly one

[33:44]point about Chuck lead before we examine a few Hadees historically in

[33:49]the beginning of Islam the word Chuck lead was used negatively in

[33:54]fact there are some hadiths that condemn Doug lead why what is

[34:02]the meaning of those hadith very briefly took a lead at the

[34:07]time meant following someone blindly without evidence what the pagans would do

[34:12]just finding their forefathers on a path of worshipping idols let's do

[34:16]the same the Quran condemns this idea of Chuck lead the Imams

[34:19]evaluate the prophet sallallaahu already they all condemned this so if you

[34:23]find the hadith because today some people are acting smart he'll pull

[34:28]out one hadith which we can even discuss the chain of it

[34:30]sometimes it's not even a solid chain see the Imam himself is

[34:33]condemning TUC elite well what type of tuck leaders name I'm condemning

[34:39]so when you look at the context of those words HT hadn't

[34:42]ugly they had a negative connotation it's jihad meant at the time

[34:47]at the time of Ali Masada Collison and the word HT had

[34:50]jurisprudence which we translated today meant that you use your own opinion

[34:54]when you are dealing with a text you use your own opinion

[35:02]and insert it when you're dealing with it with a text like

[35:04]Quran or hadith and this is something that Abu Hanifah did he

[35:10]did not work within the text to understand it he would actually

[35:14]come up with his own opinions and insert them into religion that

[35:19]is the jihad that the Imams condemned but a scholar whose true

[35:25]to the text does not do that the scholar says I examine

[35:30]the text I'm trying to understand the text I'm not coming up

[35:33]with something and adding it to the text abu hanifa would do

[35:38]that that's the condemned edge to HT on and the condemned tech

[35:41]leaders to follow people like that because they have no authority to

[35:44]be followed when they're inserting their own opinions so just to keep

[35:49]that in mind if you ever come across a hadith that's condemning

[35:51]to Khalid that's the type of techne that's condemning let's examine the

[35:56]first hadith here in one sahih hadith an imam sadiq ali salam

[36:01]tells his companion a ban a bin Talib it was one of

[36:06]the good companions of Ali Mohammed Sahib they ran tells him and

[36:11]Najah she mentions this hadith and his book original page 10 Angeles

[36:16]fema genus is ageless fee Masjid in Medina sit in the mosque

[36:25]of Medina wafting us give fatwa to the people for any or

[36:29]Hebrew and our fee she a team it's like I love to

[36:33]see amongst my she are people like you look at this hadith

[36:36]and him on the side of Ali said I was telling about

[36:39]who was a scholar he was an expert trained by the Imam

[36:44]the amount tells him sent in the message and issue fatwas to

[36:46]the people I love to see qualified scholars like you from our

[36:50]Shias doing that so the Imam is commanding his companion to issue

[36:58]fatwas now when the Imam is commanding AB an event a group

[37:06]to issue fatwas isn't there an assumed command from the Imam that

[37:10]if you hear the fatwas of Aban take them or no there

[37:16]is no such assumed command what do you say of course there

[37:20]is so if someone heard the Imam say this and then he

[37:24]came one day to the measured and Saban teaching and issuing fatwas

[37:27]that layperson should they take the words of a man or no

[37:32]of course they have to because they heard their Imam commanding a

[37:35]bunt to issue fatwas that means the Imam Ali Salaam is also

[37:39]commanding the people to accept his fort was that means the Imam

[37:44]is commanding people to do totally the bobbin that's evidence for chocolate

[37:48]because a man is an expert he's issuing fatwas in the Masjid

[37:51]the man on his salaam is also indirectly telling it's yeah except

[37:57]the words of about new talent of him he's qualified he's trained

[38:00]what are some counter arguments let me hear if you have any

[38:08]counter arguments yes a bond in Arabic Elif bah Elif noon a

[38:15]bond a BA and eben tells the lib tells the lib top

[38:22]rain Lamba he was a scholar he was a you know trained

[38:27]by the Imams peace be upon them he knew how the filter

[38:31]works so the amount commands him sit in the message it ft

[38:33]nos the imam uses the word fatwa you want clearer than that

[38:37]fatwa fatwa they man uses the word fatwa in the Sahadi give

[38:43]fatwa to the people then if you think oh this was a

[38:48]special relationship between imam sadiq ali salam and a bond because a

[38:53]bond had this divine position no the end of the hadeeth solves

[38:56]this for us the Imam says I love to see amongst my

[39:00]Shia people like you that means qualified people who are honest trustworthy

[39:04]scholars to go and give for us to the people that means

[39:06]the Imam is encouraging people to become scholars an issue fort was

[39:12]the right way so we know it's not a special thing between

[39:14]the Imam and a bond because someone could argue they map is

[39:19]not legitimizing the entire system of top elite name I'm saying only

[39:22]Iban you can do tech need of him but not others the

[39:23]ending of the hadith shows otherwise that the Imam is encourages encouraging

[39:28]us to follow anyone like a bond any scholar like a bond

[39:34]who's qualified and he's giving fatwa to follow him yes brother that's

[39:42]the clearest example Muhammad had been Muslim he would give fat ones

[39:48]Arara he would give fat was a ban a bench a live

[39:52]Zakaria bin Adam they would all issue fatwas authorized by the Imams

[39:54]themselves we'll get to that that's another part of our evidence for

[39:57]chocolate yes brother the Imams were they like contradicting we can assume

[40:15]that they did not agree in every in a hundred percent of

[40:18]the fatwa yes there was there were less disagreements because they're closer

[40:24]to the source but I can tell you from the hadith that

[40:26]we have sometimes Arara or Muhammad urban Muslim or some other companions

[40:30]they would disagree on some details they would disagree on some details

[40:34]yet the Imam authorized that whole system they would disagree sometimes in

[40:38]fact they would come in the presence of the amount they would

[40:40]quarrel Mohammad Hamid Muslim has deduced this you know fatwa it should

[40:48]be this way you know they had to calm them down yeah

[40:50]it was common for them to have some minor differences yes today

[40:54]the differences are greater because we're further away from the source that's

[40:58]natural so just a natural historical consequence obviously when you can see

[41:03]the Imam and Islam you'll have less differences but they were still

[41:06]there not all the Companions of the Imams were in complete agreement

[41:12]in fact in fact if you remember from legal theory or some

[41:15]other classes sometimes the Imam would deliberately cause differences amongst his companions

[41:22]he would teach one companion a fewa he would teach another companion

[41:26]a contradicting fatwa to save the Shia for Tahlia purposes we examined

[41:30]that in detail in legal theory why the Imam would do that

[41:34]because if the Shia were known to have one unified opinion the

[41:36]governments would go after them it would be clearly a Shia opinion

[41:41]they would get persecuted for that sometimes they mom says and I

[41:44]kind of to bein a whom I caused you know disunity among

[41:49]them mama Sonic says that for a higher purpose for another cost

[41:53]to save the Shia historically in any case that's a different issue

[41:56]let's not let's not get there now there's something we discussed in

[41:59]legal theory in detail but we have companions of the Imams peace

[42:06]be upon them commanded by the Imams peace be upon them to

[42:10]issue fatwas that means the Imam is also commanding the Shia community

[42:13]to accept those which was once they hear those fat ones you

[42:17]don't have access to them up go to our buddy Ben Tuttle

[42:22]it he will give you the fatwa now the second part of

[42:28]this argument you could argue well a bond was not doing any

[42:32]HT hat he was just a tape recorder he hears the fatwa

[42:39]family mama sod it he sits in the Masjid and tells you

[42:41]exactly what her mama side up did not more not less that's

[42:45]not what the manager doing the manager uses his you know intellectual

[42:49]capacity he puts proofs next to each other he examines he studies

[42:52]for 20 years then he issues a fatwa someone can make that

[42:57]argument right this hadith by anemometers Valley Salaam answers this objection even

[43:05]Idris and his book Mustafa a surah he narrates a hadith from

[43:08]the book of Hashanah Eibon solemn and ABI abdillah sadaqa lisanna and

[43:12]also this hadith is from an imam or vajrasana enema elena an

[43:19]aunty alaykum o soon while a command to ferrell the amana synopsis

[43:23]with the imams of a debate we give you the guiding principles

[43:27]the general laws and you my qualified companions take them and branch

[43:35]out apply them to specific cases so now we know the Imams

[43:43]didn't just ask their companions to just convey the ruling verbatim from

[43:48]the Imam the Imam is actually authorizing them to use their understanding

[43:55]of religion to apply cases to apply principles to particular cases we

[44:03]give you the osode the general principles but about the details like

[44:08]justice have as a principle the law of continuity that you have

[44:11]to get from the Imam you can't make it up by yourself

[44:13]but how does the law of continuity apply to it in which

[44:18]case scholar a scholar will spend 10 years figuring that out they

[44:20]map says that's up to you you figure that out see the

[44:26]Imam is authorizing to clean so this will negate the possibility that

[44:29]the Imam is telling about just and convey my words exactly don't

[44:37]use any type of you know reasoning yourself that is not the

[44:41]case we have to break for surah rasul allah allah sayidina muhammad

[44:45]in Hualien time did you

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